Joe Thomas: Takes 2-3 years to prepare a QB for the NFL

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  1. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    His statement should be applied to any player at any position. It takes a while for players to become acclimated to the speed and complexity of the NFL, hence the typical "3 year rule" when judging a draft class. Obviously there are players who adjust faster than others but generally it takes two or three years to truly judge a player.
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Bullshit, it takes 1 beat report from rookie ota's to determine a bust
    Amiright?
     
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    BomberJet Well-Known Member

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    Not even a rookie.... Manish & Cimini's inane over expectations in their postings,,, especially on twitter. From the horses a$$ to God's ears.
     
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    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    He's talking about QB's sitting and learning. You can't sit every draft pick for 2-3 years.
     
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    Of course he is right. Short of landing next Andrew Luck, this should be done for every rookie QB.

    The difference is they don't have NY media. No Kay and Tank preaching that
    "YOU MUST START HIM IF YOU DRAFTED HIM IN THE 1ST!
    2ND ROUND HACK IS NOT ON THE FIELD... JETS MUST THINK HE IS BAD!
    INCOMPETENT JETS",
    (recognize the TGG sentiment?). No metha writing about collective team diarrhea from unknown sources

    Half of this fanbase is so brainwashed by the media, its scary.
     
  7. RuJFan

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    No, not to every position.
    That's because the learning curve for every other position is exponentially less than for QB.
     
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    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit, why would I listen to a 10 time Pro-Bowler when I can listen to the eminent minds articulating their ruminations on here.
     
  9. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    Guy is a lock HOFer for protecting QBs. If saying they shouldn't be judged until year 4 isn't protecting QBs, I don't know what is.

    Well done, Mr. Thomas.
     
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    Of course. It's easy to tell from your couch when you listen to the likes of Semeny and see for yourself in just a couple series on your TV.

    Joe Thomas obviously doesn't know anything football and is a suck up fan boi...:mad:
     
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    You don't have to sit every draft pick for 2-3 years. Some players can make the transition immediately, others take a month or two into the season, others take longer periods of time. That's why you can't/shouldn't take the cookie cutter approach. Every player/person is different. Players learn and develop at different speeds. That's why it's totally nuts to say that a player is a bust if he can't play immediately.
     
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  13. I think to some extent it's true for most positions but no doubt even more so w a QB bc there are so many different aspects to the position that Typically need refining w practice reps,classroom,watching a vet & just learning the ropes.

    Unfortunately that's not the reality of today's NFL.Its a win now business & a young man's league.But Im not so sure those things go hand in hand w the modern games most important position.If Hack sits for another half a season & rises to qualify starter level the Jets will be ahead of the curve for once
     
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    It takes 16 yrs for a QB to fully develop. Take Josh McCown....this is his break out year. Skys the limit for this kid! Look out NFL!!!

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    He looks pregnant, about 7 months in...
     
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    I respectfully disagree

    In this day and age QBs like Luck Winston and Carson Wentz (who did not even go to a big time program) step right in and play

    College programs get the kids ready moreso today more than ever

    Hence Suck for Sam or grab a Josh

    JMHO
     
  17. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Of course, what Thomas is saying makes sense despite the instant success of QB's like Luck, Wilson and Prescott and to a lesser degree Carr, Stafford and Dalton. What he fails to take into account is that in this day and age of 4 year rookie contracts, teams can't wait 2-3 years to see whether the guy will be successful. After 2-3 years sitting on the bench, a team will learn very little about his abilities making the decision to extend a new contract much tougher.
     

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