The Dunces Have Elected A Dunce

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  1. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    The healthcare bill was a disaster; didn't fix what was broken and made others worse.
     
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    From one snakes oil salesman to the next
     
  4. John Lombardo

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    I considered it a lose lose... I feel once he passes a bill, like this healthcare, where it is an obvious benefit to the rich and a catastrophe to the poor and those effects start coming to light, he loses. Everything in that bill was a middle finger to his low income supporters.

    Now if Obamacare stays, it is another promise that he is putting on the back burner. He is already losing support from his voters because of not failed promises, but these stupid timelines he put on himself... ISIS gone in 30 days, ACA repealed and replaced day 1. He is already losing supporters because of it and he has not gained in other demographics to make that up.

    Also, his idiotic supporters are going to blame the Republicans, not Trump because he is teflon. So the seats that are up for election next year probably just lost a few votes.

    Trump supporters are only going to jump ship for 2 reasons: If there is a major rise in cost for them and a tax break for the rich. and if he takes too long coming through on campaign promises.. His supporters, for the most part, are just so uneducated/hate Obama that they don't even realize that Trump's Healthcare bill would have completely screwed them over no matter what angle you look at... But hey, they almost got Planned Parenthood suspended for a year!
     
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  5. HomeoftheJets

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    Conspiracy theory. Steve Bannon wanted this bill to fail to make Paul Ryan look bad. So Ryan loses his speakership, a Trumpkin gets it, and there goes any chance of investigating Trump-Russia. (Take seriously at your leisure. :eek:)

    Seriously though, whether planned or not, this is a win for Bannon and his extremists.
     
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  6. RonPi

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    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...are_bill_doom_the_rest_of_trump_s_agenda.html

    Has There Ever Been a Crazier Week in Congress?
    No.

    "Did you see anything that you thought was either smart or dumb about the negotiation tactics Trump used?

    Ezra [Klein’s] piece on Trump and negotiation was penetrating and damning. It’s
    one thing if you are negotiating a real estate deal and you don’t have to know
    the details, which will be cleaned up by your lawyers and you are just focusing
    on the larger optics and trying to gain leverage. You just have an instinct for
    bluffing, and that’s the art of the deal as Trump does it. Applying it to politics
    and Congress when you have no knowledge base, no understanding of the dynamics
    of politics, no sense of timing or how to threaten or sweet-talk or cajole, and
    you are starting with the fact that you have made promises that can’t be kept,
    and then you move to negotiation with individuals, which is just to tell them
    what they want to hear, but then you don’t follow through—that’s all a formula
    for disaster.

    I saw a transcript of something said by Bob Aderholt, who is a conservative
    House member from Alabama. He went in to meet with Trump. He said basically,
    “Mr. President, my constituents are your voters, but I am looking at this bill
    and many of them are in their 60s and they don’t make money and this
    will raise their premiums, etc.” Trump put his hand on his knee and said, “I
    know and I won’t let this happen.” And Trump said he was for the bill 100
    percent, so Aderholt said he changed from no to yes. That worked for someone
    who was probably going to vote for it anyhow. But now he looks at the bill,
    and it screws them over even more! So if you are Trump, you can get them in
    the room, but when they go out of the room, they find out you lied to them."

    Ron
     
  7. Antoni

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    Not entirely related but it looks like Denis Voronenkov is the latest victim
    As the saying goes, you know, it's something like: The Russians are pissing on our faces and Trump is telling us that it's raining. All news against me is FAKE NEWS, and all news for me is REAL NEWS, and anything that I say on twitter at 3AM is REAL NEWS. That's kind of how it goes in Russia too, except that there is no partisan station to voice the other side--because they have all been eliminated. So all real news and all fake news are one and the same, because Putin is the one controlling it.

    Problem with Trump-Russia is that it's too late, as said in previous posts. The FBI will not give up, but will get no where. The mission of Russian intelligence is to create confusion, chaos, and instability. They don't care who they have to whack on their end or who gets caught doing the cover up for them here, only that that the overall objective is a success.
     
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    Being optimistic, there's a big difference between Russia and us. When Putin took power, Russians were experiencing democracy for the first time in their history, and it sucked. Yeltsin was clueless and the country was worse off than it was during the Soviet era. So when Putin made Russia great again, nobody cared he was doing it at the expense of their freedoms. OTOH we have one the greatest democracies/republics in world history, and it's over 200 years old. Things aren't perfect, but we still have it way better than most. So Americans will still demand accountability, and even Trump supporters won't let him get away with everything (I hope).
     
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    Donnie needs to watch this.

     
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  10. RonPi

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...d-you-about-russia-but-nobody-listened-to-us/

    "...on this day, we were on a mission to get the press to focus on something even we found difficult to process: the prospect that Russia had not only hacked and stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee, but that it had done so to help Donald Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton.

    We did not succeed. Reporters were focused on the many daily distractions, the horse race, the stories they were doing based on the stolen DNC emails and the many other Trump scandals that were easier to explain. Voters didn’t seem worried. Earlier that week, our campaign manager, Robby Mook, was mocked for telling CNN that the leak of stolen emails before our convention was an indication that Russia was trying to help Trump. We did not know, as FBI Director James B. Comey told Congress this past week, that the bureau had already opened an investigation into Russian interference — and into possible links between Trump’s associates and the Russian government, including whether they worked together on his behalf. At the time, it seemed far-fetched that Russia would meddle so openly, and reporters and voters alike seemed convinced that it didn’t matter anyway, because Clinton was going to win.

    For me, Comey’s disclosure on Monday brought nearly unfathomable frustration. I will never understand why he would send a letter to Congress 11 days before the election to let lawmakers know that the FBI had happened upon more emails — which they didn’t yet know the contents of — that may or may not have been relevant to Clinton, but he did not think the public should know that federal agents were also investigating Trump’s campaign."

    Ron
     
  11. RonPi

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    https://newrepublic.com/article/140961/amazing-disgrace-donald-trump-hijacked-religious-right

    Amazing Disgrace
    How did Donald Trump—a thrice-married, biblically illiterate sexual predator—hijack the religious right?

    "Back in August 2015, when Donald Trump’s presidential ambitions were widely considered a joke, Russell Moore was worried. A prominent leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, Moore knew that some of the faithful were falling for Trump, a philandering, biblically illiterate candidate from New York City whose lifestyle and views embodied everything the religious right professed to abhor. The month before, a Washington Post poll had found that Trump was already being backed by more white evangelicals than any other Republican candidate.

    Moore, a boyish-looking pastor from Mississippi, had positioned himself as the face of the “new” religious right: a bigger-hearted, diversity-oriented version that was squarely opposed to Trump’s “us versus them” rhetoric. Speaking to a gathering of religion reporters in a hotel ballroom in Philadelphia, Moore said that his “first priority” was to combat the “demonizing” and “depersonalizing” of immigrants—people, he pointed out, who were “created in the image of God.” Only by refocusing on such true “gospel” values, Moore believed, could evangelicals appeal to young people who had been fleeing the church in droves, and expand its outreach to African Americans and Latinos. Evangelicals needed to do more than win elections—their larger duty was to win souls. Moore, in short, wanted the Christian right to reclaim the moral high ground—and Trump, in his estimation, was about as low as you could get.

    “The church of Jesus Christ ought to be the last people to fall for hucksters and demagogues,” Moore wrote in Onward: Engaging the Culture Without Losing the Gospel, a book he had just published at the time. “But too often we do.”"

    Ron
     
  12. The Waterboy

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    I thought it would be interesting to separate Ron's own words from those he cuts and pastes so here are Ron's original words from his last 20 posts.

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    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    sure you didn't miss one?
     
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    The "S" word:



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  16. joe

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    https://www.thenation.com/article/neil-gorsuchs-own-testimony-clearly-disqualifies-him/

    "But even those who might be inclined to approve Gorsuch under difference circumstances cannot accept the illicit manner in which his nomination has been advanced. The politics of obstruction and lying that Republicans—including Donald Trump—employed to block Merrick Garland’s nomination corrupted the process. Within hours of Scalia’s death, McConnell declared that “this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.” Senate Republicans, with Trump cheering them on, argued that Supreme Court vacancies are simply not to be filled in presidential election years.

    That was a lie. A sitting justice on the US Supreme Court, Anthony Kennedy, was confirmed in the presidential election year of 1988. Justice William Brennan Jr. joined the court in a presidential election year (1956), as did Justices Frank Murphy (1940), Benjamin Cardozo (1932) and John Clarke (1916). So, too, was Justice Louis Brandeis, a controversial nominee who was nominated, reviewed and confirmed to a place on the high court in the presidential election year of 1916—on a timeline remarkably similar to what could have happened for Garland. And that’s just the record for the century from 1916 to 2016.

    By refusing to acknowledge and condemn the chicanery, and the lies, that made him a nominee made himself a part of the lies and corruption. Gorsuch should have recognized the wisdom of former Senator Feingold’s observation during the confirmation process that: “We need to stop talking about the Gorsuch nomination as if it is about a single seat on the Supreme Court. This nomination, this hearing, is about a precedent that if allowed to stand will tarnish the legitimacy of our highest court for generations to come.”"

    Ron
     
  18. joe

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    nice autism bro
     
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