Tom Brady suspended for four games Overturned!

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    how did we get to where we are now with all the wasted time and money in federal appeals court without formally questioning the ball boys?
     
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    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    Pats fans will tell you that the ball boys have been questioned....just not since the discovery of those text messages.

    It is fairly simple, and a as long as Berman doesn't rule in Brady's favor, just put those equipment people on the stand.

    I cannot see Berman ruling completely in Brady favor...could see a reduction (I think Berman does have the power to reduce the suspension), ..but I think Brady has said that he would not agree to any suspension. So re open and take this case to another court....

    Order those equipment people on the stand, and lay this case to rest.
     
  3. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    This is not true. Wells had all the texts BEFORE they interviewed both of them.
     
  4. Burning Elvii

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    It's gonna be

    POOF
     
  5. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but he didn't see or examine the earlier ones until he scrubbed backwards from the January 2015 time frame until 2014.....then he requested Deflator to be re-interviewed based on that. Denied by NE Pats.

    You can't try to even reframe this. Only a guilty party would try to rationalize it.

    POOF
     
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  6. Burning Elvii

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    Stephen Brown ‏@PPVSRB 46m46 minutes ago
    Stephen Brown retweeted Gary Myers

    Likely going to be a #deflategate appeal, regardless of which way Berman rules.

    Stephen Brown added,

    Gary Myers @garymyersNYDN
    No settlement in Brady case. Judge expects to make decision Tues or Wed. Will either stick with 4 games or vacate. Then expect appeal.
    15 retweets 9 favorites


    More from Brown and a pic of Brady leaving the court house

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  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    So there's going to be an appeal of the court decision about Brady's appeal to the NFL?

    I'm getting confused.
     
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  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    If this judge tries to vacate this decision he probably won't be a judge much longer as there is no legal way he can do that. nm, he is probably appointed for life which is how they can do these kinds of things and get away with them.
     
  10. pclfan

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    I can see Brady appealing and then a year from now retiring if his appeal goes south. It really makes you wonder why he's so steadfast on this and can't accept the penalty. Maybe he thinks admitting cheating could affect his future if true that he wants to run for political office .
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 2018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    This isn't an appeal, it's a civil suit. The earlier appeal was denied by Goodell before the civil suit was filed.
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Really good point and that may very well be it.
     
  13. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    If it's a civil suit there is no way in the world the judge can rule for brady as the cba is clearly written.
     
  14. Burning Elvii

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    it will be noted!!!

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    Nope. The thing before Berman is a request by the NFL to Federal Court to validate Goodell's ruling of Brady's appeal. NFL punished, Brady appealed, Goodell upheld, then the NFL brought this to court to get it validated, and Brady is fighting that. There is no suit of any type (yet) civil or otherwise.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    So what does that mean exactly, if he validates it it's over with the exception of Brady's appeal. If he does not validate it does that necessarily mean he is invalidating it? Is that even an option for him and if it is on what basis does he have that option?
     
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    I think Berman can 1. uphold the NFL's appeal ruling or, 2. Vacate that ruling (toss it, in other words).
    He could also add things to his ruling- (for example, he could vacate but mandate another arbitration with a neutral arbitrator or something). I think what he CAN'T do is uphold, but change the punishment.

    Also, it is almost a guarantee that whoever loses will appeal, so this will probably outlive us all...

    Berman will come with legal rationale for whatever he does- that will be what's really interesting. IMO, he already broadcast that he will vacate, and he cited the precedent (shadiness by the NFL for withholding Pash as a witness).

    We won't have to wait much longer to hear what Berman says. But this wont be the end
     
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    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    Berman will vacate, NFL will appeal.

    I'll bet all my vcash on it.
     
  20. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    He can't mandate an arbitrator unless he is ready to throw out the entire CBA which would probably end up in a lockout or strike...it clearly states Goodell has the sole power to rule if he chooses to do so and the union approved it, that is not an option. I suppose he can do anything he wants, that's the problem with these for lifers but it would be stayed in less than 24 hours if he did.
     
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