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  1. RuJFan

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    I'm about ready to chip into hiring a blimp with big "Start McCown = Fire Bowles" sign.
     
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    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/08/jets_robby_anderson_shines_in_quincy_enunwas_absen.html

    Speaking of signs. There were very good signs coming from TC yesterday that Robbie Anderson is coming to life on the field.

    By Connor Hughes | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
    Filling in for Quincy Enunwa, Jets receiver Robby Anderson had his best practice of training camp. Here's the complete report from Day 9.

    What happened on Day 9?
    FLORHAM PARK — Frustrating? Dismal? Disappointing? Pick the negative adjective, it likely fit Robby Anderson's first eight practices at Jets training camp.

    Coming off a promising rookie year, Anderson didn't look like a player who made any significant improvements those first two weeks. He couldn't beat the press. His routes weren't crisp. His sure hands anything but. He looked... bad.

    And then came Tuesday.

    The recently-appointed No. 1 wideout had his best practice of the summer, catching just about everything thrown his way. He beat top corner Morris Claiborne with double moves three times in receiver-defensive back drills. In the team period, he had the highlight of camp thus far.

    Anderson got a clean release off the line, and a step on corner Juston Burris. Quarterback Christian Hackenberg let one fly, and Anderson tracked it down for a would-be 80-yard score.

    "I feel like I have more understanding for the game [this year]," Anderson said after practice. "I have experience under my belt. Last year, I was kind of running around. Things have slowed down a lot, and I have a better understanding of the speed of the game, flow of the game."

    With Quincy Enunwa out the year due to a neck injury, the Jets hope Anderson's strong practice is the beginning of a hot streak, and not a random spark in an otherwise underwhelming August.

    Here's more from Day 9 of Jets Camp.


    INJURIES
    Running backs Matt Forte (hamstring) and Bilal Powell (neck) missed practice. It's unclear when either will return. Both players were in pads for the team stretch, which is a slightly encouraging sign.

    Linebacker Lorenzo Mauldin (back) again sat out. He's day-to-day, and wasn't in pads. Dylan Donahue, Jordan Jenkins and Freddie Bishop received extra work in his absence. Cornerback Xavier Coleman has a deep bone bruise, per coach Todd Bowles.

    Receiver Deshon Foxx left practice early with an undisclosed injury. Safety Jamal Adams worked, but split first-team reps with Rontez Miles.

    Receiver Gabe Marks and cornerback Shamarko Thomas didn't practice.


    SPECIAL TEAMS
    The Jets didn't work the kicking gauntlet on Tuesday, so it was virtually an off day for Chandler Catanzaro and Ross Martin. Receivers Frankie Hammond and Lucky Whitehead, along with running back Romar Morris, took turns running back kicks and punts.


    THE QUARTERBACKS
    It was an up-and-down day for Christian Hackenberg. At times, he looked incredible. He threaded the needle to Austin Seferian-Jenkins for a touchdown in the red zone drill, and hit Robby Anderson for the 80-yard score in team work.

    Then, he looked awful. He twice threw interceptions which looked telegraphed for defenders. The growing pains are still there.

    Hackenberg finished 4 of 12 with two touchdowns and two interceptions. Josh McCown went 8 of 14 with one score, and Bryce Petty 8 of 13 with a touchdown of his own.

    Darryl Slater has more on the quarterbacks.


    ANOTHER MEETING
    This is becoming a bit of a camp ritual.
    After defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson brought the team together last week, Steve McLendon did the same on Tuesday. Before the Jets started team drills, he called everyone together and gave a spirited speech in the middle.

    Rookie receiver ArDarius Stewart said McLendon wasn't happy with the sloppiness, so he felt the need to speak out. Bowles saw a difference in practice after McLendon addressed the team.

    "It's good that they can get themselves out of a hole, get themselves together, and pick themselves up," Bowles said. "We still want to start faster, but, they're growing up a little bit."


    OKLAHOMAS
    The Jets have been much, much more physical in camp this year. There's a definite increase in full-contact drills, and 'Oklahomas' were even run on Tuesday.
    For those unfamiliar with the drill, two bags are set up about 2-3 yards apart. An offensive lineman lines up on one side, and a defensive player on the other. A running back stands behind the blocker. On the whistle, the defensive player tries to shed the block and tackle the running back.

    "It's a little different sign of some of the things we want those guys to do," Bowles said. "It's a little part of hitting more... We're trying to create a tough mentality in camp and get used to hitting. Last year, we tried to wait until the preseason games and do hitting, but you have to hit early, you have to play this game the way you play everyday. So we're trying to get more contact in there."


    JAMAL ADAMS, MARCUS MAYE CONTINUE TO SHINE

    It was a running joke once the Jets turned in their draft card on April 28. With a roster littered with holes, how could general manager Mike Maccagnan use each of his first two picks on the same position? One safety, fine. But two? Madness.

    Through nine training camp practices, the back-to-back moves don't seem so asinine. If Tuesday' workout is any indication, it was brilliant. Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye were tremendous. More on them here.

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    On the injury front, unless they're both more seriously injured than thought, it's not necessarily a bad thing that Forté and Powell have missed several practices. It's gotten Elijah McGuire a lot more reps, and Forté could probably use the rest and benefit from less wear and tear on his body. I'm a little more concerned with Powell, as it's important that he really be in sync in the offense. Hopefully, he'll be back fully practicing in a day or two.

    Mauldin had better be careful. In the extra reps the others are getting at OLB they are making plays and shining. For his sake, I hope he can get back to practice soon. He may be on his way out, however.

    I hope that Marks and Shamarko Thomas can get back to practicing soon. They've made some plays in practice and have a chance to make the team. Missing time will hurt them.

    I love the player meetings and leadership being exhibited. Hope it continues.

    Gotta love our Safeties. I think our days of getting few/no interceptions/no defensive scores are over.
     
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    OFFENSIVE LINE STRUGGLING
    It may be time to take note of the offensive line's struggles.

    In what's becoming a regular occurrence, the line again had trouble in team drills (five sacks, depending on your grading curve), and even more in the 1-on-1 work with the defensive line.

    The drill was simple: Two to three offensive linemen line up in front of two to three defensive linemen. On the whistle, both sides go at it. The offensive line tries to prevent the defensive line from ringing a bell hanging a few yards behind — similar to a quarterback in the shot gun.

    Leonard Williams, Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson made child's play of whoever lined up in front of them. That's to be expected. But those behind the 'Big 3' dominated, too.

    The line needs to get better, or it won't matter who wins this wide-open quarterback competition. None will make it to Week 3.


    1-on-1 HIGHLIGHTS
    The cornerbacks and receivers, and linebackers and running backs, went 1-on-1 in their daily camp battle. Here are a few of the plays that stood out.
    • Rookie running back Eli McGuire had a nice play. He absorbed a hard hit from linebacker Julian Stanford out of the backfield, bounced off it, continued his route and picked a beautiful pass from Christian Hackenberg out of the air. McGuire needs more consistency with his hands, but has proven to be a weapon out of the backfield.
    • Linebacker Darron Lee had an interception. He essentially ran running back Jordan Todman's route for him, and intercepted a Bryce Petty pass. Lee also made a few plays in team drills. He had a good practice overall. One of his better this summer.
    • Receiver Robby Anderson beat cornerback Morris Claiborne on three straight passes. It was good to see, because Claiborne had handled Anderson up until this point. Anderson ran impressive routes each play, and worked in a nice set of double moves.
    • Receiver Chad Hansen continues to struggle. I'm not sure he's fully healthy. He's extremely talented, but rough around the edges. His route running needs some work. He failed to create much separation on any of his routes in 1-on-1 drills.

    TEAM DRILLS AND RED ZONE HIGHLIGHTS
    Here are some of the highlights from team drills and red zone work.
    • Linebacker Darron Lee ruined a run play early in team drills. He came darting inside, blew up a lead block from fullback Julian Howsare, and allowed a teammate to come around for the tackle short of the line of scrimmage.
    • Safety Jamal Adams had two would-be sacks. He came in on a safety blitz each time, avoided the blockers, and got to quarterback Josh McCown just as he threw the ball. McCown released the pass in time, but if this were a game, I find it hard to believe Adams doesn't make the sack. Remember: You can't hit quarterbacks in practice.
    • Tight end Jordan Leggett made an impressive catch down the seam on a pass from Josh McCown.
    • Safety Marcus Maye and cornerback Marcus Williams each intercepted Christian Hackenberg passes in team drills. Both were poor throws from Hackenberg. Each went right to the defender.
    • Linebacker Demario Davis got awfully physical with Romar Morris. He still struggles in coverage, but Davis has had his moments. He's making plays.
    • Quarterback Christian Hackenberg threw two marvelous passes. The first was a would-be 80-yard touchdown to Robby Anderson in team drills, and the second a laser to tight end Austin Seferian-Jenkins in the red zone.
    • The hit of practice belongs to linebacker Freddie Bishop. In the red zone, he came untouched on a blitz and rocked running back Romar Morris just as he got the handoff. The defense enjoyed that play quite a bit.
     
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    Here are the three stars from Day 9 of Jets camp.

    JAMAL ADAMS, safety: Adams isn't fully recovered from his sprained ankle, but he's getting there. On Tuesday, he started making plays again in limited full-team reps. He had two would-be sacks on blitzes. He perfectly read the protection, maneuvered around blockers, and got to quarterback Josh McCown right as he was about to throw the ball.

    McCown did get the passes off, but keep in mind, quarterbacks can't get hit in practice. If this was a game, I find it hard to believe Adams wouldn't have made both plays.

    MARCUS MAYE, safety: Maye has been a monster ever since the Jets put on the pads last week. He first stood out with big hits. Now, he's showing tremendous ball-hawking tendencies. Maye had a pick-six on a Christian Hackenberg pass -- his second in four days -- and another near pick in receiver-defensive back drills. It's early, but both he and Adams look like the real deal.

    ROBBY ANDERSON, receiver: To say Anderson struggled in the Jets' first eight practices would be an understatement. The second-year wideout couldn't get off the press, and dropped more than his share of catchable passes. On Tuesday, though, Anderson was tremendous.

    He beat top cornerback Morris Claiborne three times in receiver-cornerback drills. It got to the point secondary coach Dennard Wilson was yelling compliments. In team drills, he smoked Juston Burris on a go route for an 80-yard touchdown. Christian Hackenberg threw the bomb.

    With Quincy Enunwa done for the year, the Jets desperately need Anderson to step up. Tuesday, he looked up for the task. Will it continue?
     
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    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/20..._and_down_on_day_9_of.html#incart_river_index

    Jets' Christian Hackenberg up and down on Day 9 of training camp | QB report

    By Darryl Slater | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
    The Jets on Tuesday held their ninth training camp practice. Here is what we noticed — our takeaways and observations — from quarterbacks Christian Hackenberg, Josh McCown, and Bryce Petty, as they compete for the starting job ...

    THE REPS
    McCown: 24 (215 total in camp)

    Hackenberg: 18 (167 total)

    Petty: 16 (128 total)


    THE STATS
    McCown: 8-14, one touchdown

    Totals for camp: 88-135 (65 percent), six touchdowns, three interceptions


    Hackenberg: 4-12, two touchdowns, two interceptions

    Totals for camp: 51-101 (50 percent), four touchdowns, two interceptions


    Petty: 8-13, one touchdown

    Totals for camp: 46-75 (61 percent), one touchdown, two interceptions


    JOSH MCCOWN: THE GOOD
    He made a very good throw over the middle to Jordan Leggett, into a tight window, hitting him in stride.

    No major mistakes from McCown on Tuesday, which is important. The Jets can ill afford turnovers. They have a very small margin for error this season.

    McCown's touchdown went to Jalin Marshall in a red zone period. McCown would've gone 4 of 4 in that period if not for a drop by Myles White.

    JOSH MCCOWN: THE BAD
    As we mentioned, no huge errors for McCown on Tuesday, when he was sacked three times.

    McCown was also victimized by two drops on Tuesday (Chris Harper and White).

    And he threw away one pass. So that accounts for three of his six incomplete passes.


    BRYCE PETTY: THE GOOD
    He finished practice strong.

    In his final period, he completed all five of his passes, in a two-minute drill.

    Good stuff here from Petty. He wrapped up the period with his first touchdown pass of camp — a 35-yarder to White. Petty perfectly dropped the throw in over coverage. Nicely placed. His best throw of camp so far.

    BRYCE PETTY: THE BAD
    Before that final period Tuesday, Petty was just 3 of 8.

    So what went wrong? Well, he was victimized by three drops — White twice, Elijah McGuire once.

    In a red zone period, Petty also threw way behind Marshall, and had a horrible play that almost resulted in an interception. Petty dropped the snap, rolled out, and then forced a ball into coverage. It was almost intercepted by Doug Middleton. Offensive coordinator John Morton quickly admonished Petty for this.


    CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG: THE GOOD
    He showed off his arm strength on his first snap of practice, hitting Robby Anderson for a 73-yard deep ball touchdown. Beautiful throw from Hackenberg, his best of camp so far.

    Hackenberg, for the second straight day, got six snaps with the first-team offense, against the starting defense — a sign of progress for him.

    His starting reps Tuesday came in a red zone period during which he hit Austin Seferian-Jenkins for a 10-yard touchdown pass.

    CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG: THE BAD
    He threw three interceptions (two in team periods, one in a 7-on-7 drill) to counteract his two touchdowns. These were Hackenberg's first team periods interceptions of training camp. He had some in non-team periods before Tuesday.

    In team periods, Hackenberg threw two interceptions in the span of three passes. The first was a deep ball down the sideline, into double coverage. Marcus Williams got it. The second was over the middle, and Marcus Maye picked it off. A rough stretch here for Hackenberg.

    In terms of drops, Hackenberg was victimized by two of them (Julian Howsare and McGuire).


    WHICH QB LOOKED THE BEST?
    McCown gets the "win" for Tuesday.

    Yes, Petty did some good things (albeit against a defense of backups). And yes, Hackenberg had those two touchdowns (but also two picks in team periods).

    So even though McCown wasn't spectacular, he was the best (least bad?) of the three on Tuesday. That pretty much sums up this Jets quarterback competition so far.


    TRAINING CAMP QB SCORECARD
    McCown:
    6 practices "won"

    Hackenberg: 2

    Petty: 1




    Who leads the competition? It looks like Petty has zero chance to win the starting job. Can Hackenberg challenge McCown? Sure. But Hackenberg has to show the Jets something in preseason games, starting Saturday at home against the Titans. For now, McCown continues to have a rather firm hold on the job.
     
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    Can't make the club when you're in the tub. Otherwise the D could be killer. McClendon can play btw
     
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    • Lee and Jenkins putting it together could make the D very exciting
     
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    Mauldin is my not so surprising surprise cut .
     
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    I am soooooo with you.
    People that think our defense can be good or keep us in games ,all I can say is look at the linebackers ,I have said this in earlier threads and hopefully I'm wrong but these linebackers don't impress me at all
     
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    What makes anyone here think Kacy Rodgers has gotten better as a DC?
     
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    Green koolaids?
     
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    I'm guessing the patriots have video of the entire incident
     
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    It's a joke dude! It didn't really happen. But I could see how you would think it was real.
     
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    Mine was a joke too, although based on some truths, ones that everyone knows really happened
     
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    Even if it is a slam at the Jets, it's funny. Good job.
     
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    This joke is at least 3 years old.
    Just saying
     
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    I've heard better jokes from my grandfather ... and he's currently dead ...
     
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    Currently? Are you expecting a change in his status?
     
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    My family going back generations spent the majority of their lives down in St. Augustine, and along the coast of Florida. Probably faked his death, and found the fountain of youth. He was always a very secretive guy.
     
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