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tzinc
04-17-2012, 07:04 AM
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instaGATOR
04-17-2012, 01:23 PM
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Yeah, but what would a sack leading Rookie of the Year pass rusher know about QB's, or about a teammate that he spent the last year with? :)
I gotta go with the opinion of the DT's pass dropper instead.... :lol:
TheMadHatter
04-17-2012, 06:17 PM
Good to see someone on the beoncos still has tebows back.
tzinc
04-17-2012, 09:12 PM
Dawkins also supports Tebow.
Neither was a bust like DT until Tebow saved his career.
#1 Jets Fan
04-18-2012, 01:23 AM
Lmfao. Yeah Tebow nuts keep holding on to what other people not on the jets say. The only reason he started after Orton struggle was to keep the fans coming. He was the 3rd string QB
Demosthenes9
04-18-2012, 02:00 AM
Lmfao. Yeah Tebow nuts keep holding on to what other people not on the jets say. The only reason he started after Orton struggle was to keep the fans coming. He was the 3rd string QB
Really ?> Couldn't have anything to do with the Broncos wanted to find out what they had with the only QB they had under contract past that season ?
Yeah, I know, kind of mean of me to introduce silly little facts that keep ruining the lame assed narrative that you keep spouting.
#1 Jets Fan
04-18-2012, 02:36 AM
Really ?> Couldn't have anything to do with the Broncos wanted to find out what they had with the only QB they had under contract past that season ?
Yeah, I know, kind of mean of me to introduce silly little facts that keep ruining the lame assed narrative that you keep spouting.I don't think so. Tell me the last time when the 3rd string QB got the start after the starter got benched or hurt?
Demosthenes9
04-18-2012, 02:58 AM
I don't think so. Tell me the last time when the 3rd string QB got the start after the starter got benched or hurt?
Umm, for starters, it's apparent that you weren't familiar with the Broncos depth chart as they had both Quinn and Tebow listed at #2.
Secondly, I noticed that you said absolutely nothing to refute the point that I made.
Kind of telling there fella :).
#1 Jets Fan
04-18-2012, 03:18 AM
Umm, for starters, it's apparent that you weren't familiar with the Broncos depth chart as they had both Quinn and Tebow listed at #2.
Secondly, I noticed that you said absolutely nothing to refute the point that I made.
Kind of telling there fella :).We can and have been going back and forth about Tebow but the facts are he not the starter and I believe will never be the starter for the Jets unless Sanchez gets hurt. How long u been a Jets fan?
CowboysFan
04-18-2012, 08:06 AM
I don't think so. Tell me the last time when the 3rd string QB got the start after the starter got benched or hurt?
He wasn't third string and Tebow's stats , top to bottom destroy Quinn's career wise . You really have no idea what your talking about .
Hey at least we have established your a blnd hater who does zero research !
Compare their stats when they had the same amount of passes (for career) at the end of last season (before playoffs)
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jet setter
04-18-2012, 08:30 AM
Omg stop im sick of him enough of tebow. If this keeps up I will find a leopor with aids and have sexual relations with it
Hobbes3259
04-18-2012, 08:44 AM
Omg stop im sick of him enough of tebow. If this keeps up I will find a leopor with aids and have sexual relations with it
It's leper.
Please do, leprosy and aids, will keep you from having to live being stoopid....what is wrong with adding a football player that has never done anything but PRODUCE, to your football team?
Bannon
04-18-2012, 12:18 PM
It's leper.
Please do, leprosy and aids, will keep you from having to live being stoopid....what is wrong with adding a football player that has never done anything but PRODUCE, to your football team?
He might have meant "leopard." As in "leopard with AIDS."
instaGATOR
04-18-2012, 12:18 PM
Lmfao. Yeah Tebow nuts keep holding on to what other people not on the jets say.
The only reason he started after Orton struggle was to keep the fans coming. He was the 3rd string QB
Says the Jets Board Genius anyway.... :rofl2:
Are the Jets coaches and the Owner 'not on the Jets' in your delusions?
2010
7th Year Vet Orton 3-10 (.231) given every starter advantage.
Raw Rookie Tebow 1-2 (.333) cold off the bench.
2011 Bronco's Preseason's 'FAIR' QB Competition to determine the starter:
5th Year NFL Vet Brady 'da mighty' Quinn 69 PER
8th Year NFL Vet Orton 104 PER
3 start rookie Tebow 108 PER + 5.4 ypc, even after being given the fewest preseason practice reps.
Genius El' Dim-Way and (the Panthers) Fired Fox then determine that:
Orton 'Gives Us The Best Chance To Win' so he's again named the starter over Tebow.
Result: Orton goes 1-4 (.200) and finally gets benched.
* But the 50,000 Tebots that bought jerseys and then bused all the way to Denver is what caused Tim to finally be named the starter. :lol:
3 Start rookie Tebow then goes 7-4 + 1-1 for a 8-5 cold off the bench Playoff season, the Broncos 1st since 2005.
So apparently we have some 'breaking news' here. Fans would rather watch a WINNER than a loser at QB. :ohmy:
That winning season also included Tebow setting more Bronco and NFL passing and rushing records in the process.
But ONLY that #1 Jet fan is smart enough to know that Tim will never be a quality NFL 'Starting' QB......
Ooops :ohmy: to late, he already is. :beer:
CowboysFan
04-18-2012, 01:33 PM
Omg stop im sick of him enough of tebow. If this keeps up I will find a leopor with aids and have sexual relations with it
So if you are sick of Tebow why are you in the forum section titled Tebowmania?
tzinc
04-18-2012, 03:01 PM
The Broncos had the worst record in the NFL the last few years until Tebow.
Tebow only had 1 training camp.
The Broncos were off to a 1-4 start then traded away their best and only good WR and then made Tebow the starter.
With Tebow at QB they won the division and won a playoff game against the #1 DEFENSE in the NFL and the reigning AFC Champs and Tebow set all time playoff QB records.
instaGATOR
04-18-2012, 06:29 PM
Lmfao. Yeah Tebow nuts keep holding on to what other people not on the jets say.
The man who popularized the Wildcat liked the Jets’ idea of using Tebow. Arkansas State coach Gus Malzahn made the formation popular in 2006, when he was the offensive coordinator at Arkansas.
He faced Tebow when he was at Florida (and lost).
Malzahn said despite what people think of Tebow as a conventional passer, he will force defenses to prepare for him to run or throw.
“I think that’s where people lose sight with him,” he said. “He’s such a dynamic runner in short yardage and in the red zone. ...
I believe utilized the right way that’s a huge weapon. It’s just one other thing defenses will have to prepare for.” (not the only thing)
:smile:
LongTimeJetsFan
04-18-2012, 06:38 PM
Says the Jets Board Genius anyway.... :rofl2:
Are the Jets coaches and the Owner 'not on the Jets' in your delusions?
2010
7th Year Vet Orton 3-10 (.231) given every starter advantage.
Raw Rookie Tebow 1-2 (.333) cold off the bench.
2011 Bronco's Preseason's 'FAIR' QB Competition to determine the starter:
5th Year NFL Vet Brady 'da mighty' Quinn 69 PER
8th Year NFL Vet Orton 104 PER
3 start rookie Tebow 108 PER + 5.4 ypc, even after being given the fewest preseason practice reps.
Genius El' Dim-Way and (the Panthers) Fired Fox then determine that:
Orton 'Gives Us The Best Chance To Win' so he's again named the starter over Tebow.
Result: Orton goes 1-4 (.200) and finally gets benched.
* But the 50,000 Tebots that bought jerseys and then bused all the way to Denver is what caused Tim to finally be named the starter. :lol:
3 Start rookie Tebow then goes 7-4 + 1-1 for a 8-5 cold off the bench Playoff season, the Broncos 1st since 2005.
So apparently we have some 'breaking news' here. Fans would rather watch a WINNER than a loser at QB. :ohmy:
That winning season also included Tebow setting more Bronco and NFL passing and rushing records in the process.
But ONLY that #1 Jet fan is smart enough to know that Tim will never be a quality NFL 'Starting' QB......
Ooops :ohmy: to late, he already is. :beer:
How many of those 7 games that the Broncos won in the regular season last year with Tebow starting had the opposing team scoring more than 15 points?
Demosthenes9
04-18-2012, 09:52 PM
We can and have been going back and forth about Tebow but the facts are he not the starter and I believe will never be the starter for the Jets unless Sanchez gets hurt. How long u been a Jets fan?
Funny thing #1 is that if you limited yourself to positions like the one you just stated, I wouldn't have a problem with you at all.
But no, you have to run around here like a person possessed, taking every shot you can at claiming that Tebow sucks so badly.
The truth of the matter is that when Tebow was drafted, even though he was taken in the first round, he was seen as a 3-4 year project. This past season, he still wasn't ready to step in as a "from the pocket" starter yet he did get thrown in there, and in my opinion, he did pretty well for a young QB with extremely limited starts under his belt.
It's real simple. If a team wants Tebow to be a "conventional" QB, take snaps from under center and pass from the pocket, he still needs some work.
BUT, if you put him in running the Spread Option, he'll do much better right away, though his passing consistency will still need to improve.
displacedfan
04-18-2012, 09:57 PM
How come everyone says its the same Denver Broncos team when clear changes were made from season to season including Orton being injured AND defensive players coming back after the bye week when Tebow started starting. You cannot argue, especially in the NFL, that the team stayed the same completely until Tebow came. There were a lot of moving parts that came together for the Broncos run, with Tebow being one of the main parts
Demosthenes9
04-18-2012, 10:02 PM
How come everyone says its the same Denver Broncos team when clear changes were made from season to season including Orton being injured AND defensive players coming back after the bye week when Tebow started starting. You cannot argue, especially in the NFL, that the team stayed the same completely until Tebow came. There were a lot of moving parts that came together for the Broncos run, with Tebow being one of the main parts
Yep, he was one of the MAIN parts that the success can be attributed to :)
Bannon
04-18-2012, 10:33 PM
How come everyone says its the same Denver Broncos team when clear changes were made from season to season including Orton being injured AND defensive players coming back after the bye week when Tebow started starting. You cannot argue, especially in the NFL, that the team stayed the same completely until Tebow came. There were a lot of moving parts that came together for the Broncos run, with Tebow being one of the main parts
I guess the idea is, when the team wins the game, everybody gets the benefit of the doubt. Because they got the job done. The coaches, the defense, the offensive line, you name it.
You go from losing, to winning -- then that's the whole idea.
And what's more, when looking for a quarterback, I suppose that "extra something" is what everybody is looking for. A guy that gets it done with the game on the line, in the 4th quarter. Gets it done when every single defender is going balls out to try and stop him. And every single spectator in that crowd and on TV knows what he's trying do . . . . and he still does it.
I suppose the thinking is that the more routine stuff, the footwork, the more conventional plays can get better with time, with reps, with training camps. But that competitive fire that rises up, remains cool under pressure, and shoots an arrow right between the eyes of the opponent -- you put that in a 6'3" package, one with a good arm and good all around athletic ability -- and you've got yourself at least the makings of a quarterback.
#1 Jets Fan
04-19-2012, 04:59 AM
Funny thing #1 is that if you limited yourself to positions like the one you just stated, I wouldn't have a problem with you at all.
But no, you have to run around here like a person possessed, taking every shot you can at claiming that Tebow sucks so badly.
The truth of the matter is that when Tebow was drafted, even though he was taken in the first round, he was seen as a 3-4 year project. This past season, he still wasn't ready to step in as a "from the pocket" starter yet he did get thrown in there, and in my opinion, he did pretty well for a young QB with extremely limited starts under his belt.
It's real simple. If a team wants Tebow to be a "conventional" QB, take snaps from under center and pass from the pocket, he still needs some work.
BUT, if you put him in running the Spread Option, he'll do much better right away, though his passing consistency will still need to improve.I'm just giving my opinion on him and if you have notice I always say he sucks right now. Again.. how long u been a jets fan?
TheMoops
04-19-2012, 08:07 AM
Bottom line, Tebow is a proven winner. That is all that really matters. Jets have not won a Super Bowl in 43 years. They need something. They could use more guys like Tebow to change the team's dysfunctional locker room.
Demosthenes9
04-19-2012, 09:27 AM
I'm just giving my opinion on him and if you have notice I always say he sucks right now. Again.. how long u been a jets fan?
No, you don't always say "he sucks RIGHT NOW", and it's more than you just giving your opinion on him. It's a freaking obsession with you.
As for how long have I been a Jets' fan ? Since Tebow became a member of the team.
Next question ?
#1 Jets Fan
04-20-2012, 01:43 AM
No, you don't always say "he sucks RIGHT NOW", and it's more than you just giving your opinion on him. It's a freaking obsession with you.
As for how long have I been a Jets' fan ? Since Tebow became a member of the team.
Next question ?U mean like ur "obsession" to take up for Tebow every chance u get? Dude ur a joke just like the man u have a obsession with.
Demosthenes9
04-20-2012, 02:21 AM
U mean like ur "obsession" to take up for Tebow every chance u get? Dude ur a joke just like the man u have a obsession with.
Hahha, you, of all people, calling someone else a joke. Run along now my overly obsessed little friend. I hear your insecurities calling. :)
catsigater
04-20-2012, 10:11 AM
Lmfao. Yeah Tebow nuts keep holding on to what other people not on the jets say. The only reason he started after Orton struggle was to keep the fans coming. He was the 3rd string QB
The above displays complete ignorance about what happened.
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