Urban Meyer : Let Tebow Play

[xmscott]

Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer, who coached Tim Tebow at Florida, thinks the New York Jets should let Tebow play, according to NBC Sports.

“Let him play, just let him play,” Meyer said when asked about his former star quarterback.

Meyer added that the spread offense that Tebow executed in college would “absolutely” work in the NFL.

Meyer then told ESPN that the Broncos were too conservative with the way they used Tebow. However, when the Broncos’ offense were at their best, such as in the playoff game against Pittsburgh, the legendary head coach felt that Tebow was finally given the freedom to play his own way.

In 2007, Tim Tebow became coach Meyer’s first Heisman Trophy winner. The following year, Meyer and Tebow led the Gators to a 13-1 record and BCS National Championship over the Oklahoma Sooners.


:lol::rofl2::drunk:

[Jake]

Can we get a retort from Pete Carroll?

[CowboysFan]

:lol::rofl2::drunk:

So which part was the real funny part for you ?

[Slap]

Playing his style, Tebow held up physically for a grand total of 13 games. If the Broncos had gotten past New England in that playoff game, Tebow would not have been able to suit up for the AFC Championship Game. Tebowites tend to only see what they wish to see. Then they find someone else to blame when things don’t work out.

[Bannon]

Playing his style, Tebow held up physically for a grand total of 13 games. If the Broncos had gotten past New England in that playoff game, Tebow would not have been able to suit up for the AFC Championship Game. Tebowites tend to only see what they wish to see. Then they find someone else to blame when things don’t work out.

I think the point of the quote is that the Broncos weren't letting him play his style. You may disagree, but that's what Urban was saying.

The Broncos sort of combined the worst elements in terms of wear and tear -- lots and lots of designed runs, very little spread (until the final minutes). Ideally, he's got the ability to change plays and burn with with the run only when it's optimal.

It's possible to do better.

[whichfan]

I think the point of the quote is that the Broncos weren't letting him play his style. You may disagree, but that's what Urban was saying.

The Broncos sort of combined the worst elements in terms of wear and tear -- lots and lots of designed runs, very little spread (until the final minutes). Ideally, he's got the ability to change plays and burn with with the run only when it's optimal.

It's possible to do better.

Put him in Carolina's offense, and I believe he'll look as good as Cam Newton and as he did in college. They both ran that same style offense in college.

The Broncos did the best they could in implementing the spread offense, but I have said it over and over: they didn't have the personnel suited for a spread offense. It's not different than trying to have a 4-3 defense with 3-4 personnel. You can do it, you can line them up different, but they're not going to be effective.

That was the problem in Denver. They didn't have a coaching staff with any experience in the spread offense. They didn't go out and trade for two upper tier tight ends like Carolina did for Cam Newton. They didn't have 2 elite running backs that could catch passes and play out of the back field like Carolina trained Stewart and Deangelo(and it took them about 6 games to figure out how to play in that style). And they didn't have an elite receiver worth a damn that would command double coverage. And when it comes to that, it doesn't make a difference if you are in a spread, west coast, or conventional NFL offense. If you don't have at least one elite receiver who commands double coverage, you're pretty much SOL in the NFL anyway.

They tried to create a spread offense, with personnel that wasn't suited for it and their offensive coordinator as well as Fox had little experience with it. Not saying it's their fault, and I give them all the credit in the world for the job they did do in making it work. I have a whole lot of respect for coach Fox and if it wasn't for him I wouldn't even have gave a rats ass about Tebow. But they were first year coaches and they were pretty clear that they wanted to go in a different direction from the beginning. It was what it was. But it didn't benefit that team nor Tebow. On top of everything, John Fox believes that it's ok to run the ball 80 consecutive times a game if it works. And if he could run the ball 80 times a game he would. He sees no problems with it. Honestly John Fox must have been in heaven with Tebow and that rushing game.

But if we're going to be honest, Denver had no intention of trying to make the playoffs last year and certainly had no intention of ever building around Tebow nor Orton. It was John Fox's first year, he wanted to ride out his first year with what he had, then load up in the off-season and make a run in year 2. Same routine he had when he came into Carolina.

Tebow came in and started winning and threw a big wrench in their plans. Screwed up their draft picks and everything.

[CowboysFan]

Playing his style, Tebow held up physically for a grand total of 13 games. If the Broncos had gotten past New England in that playoff game, Tebow would not have been able to suit up for the AFC Championship Game. Tebowites tend to only see what they wish to see. Then they find someone else to blame when things don’t work out.


You left out one key piece of info. Tebow was hurt in the pocket when he was sacked by wilfork and when he fell on him the injury occurred.

It had nothing to do with the playing style. Although its a valid point .

As you know Denver barely ran the spread last year, when they did ( late in 4th) Tebow had his best moments .

[RevRick]

The Jets will better use the strengths of Timmy. The play calling last year was so frustrating, for both haters and fans.

[whichfan]

You left out one key piece of info. Tebow was hurt in the pocket when he was sacked by wilfork and when he fell on him the injury occurred.

It had nothing to do with the playing style. Although its a valid point .

As you know Denver barely ran the spread last year, when they did ( late in 4th) Tebow had his best moments .

There's more to it than that. Most people outside the Patriots fan base don't know this, but the Patriots, don't run either a 4-3 or a 3-4. They run BOTH at pretty much at all times simultaneously because of Vince. They can instantly switch between 4-3 and 3-4 and do so very often without ever subbing defensive players. I am not surprised Tebow had issues with the Pats D. He's likely never seen anything like it and I doubt a lot of other QB's have. I don't know if there's any other defense that currently does this in the NFL. They can give you a lot of confusing looks.

You can read more about it here: To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.

And again the other issue is Denver's offense never benefited from the advantages a spread offense gives you in the passing department because of their lack of tight ends and elite receivers.

All they got was the running aspects of it and ran it all the way into the playoffs, but I actually don't expect Tebow to have the pass/rush ratios he had in Denver here with the Jets. He's going to be a lot more balanced between pass/rush because the Jets have receivers in place to put something together more along the lines of what Carolina has.

[PAFLCO]

Has this been posted on the main jet forum?
This is great informent for the Jets.

[thegreatwayne80]

Put him in Carolina's offense, and I believe he'll look as good as Cam Newton and as he did in college. They both ran that same style offense in college.

The Broncos did the best they could in implementing the spread offense, but I have said it over and over: they didn't have the personnel suited for a spread offense. It's not different than trying to have a 4-3 defense with 3-4 personnel. You can do it, you can line them up different, but they're not going to be effective.

That was the problem in Denver. They didn't have a coaching staff with any experience in the spread offense. They didn't go out and trade for two upper tier tight ends like Carolina did for Cam Newton. They didn't have 2 elite running backs that could catch passes and play out of the back field like Carolina trained Stewart and Deangelo(and it took them about 6 games to figure out how to play in that style). And they didn't have an elite receiver worth a damn that would command double coverage. And when it comes to that, it doesn't make a difference if you are in a spread, west coast, or conventional NFL offense. If you don't have at least one elite receiver who commands double coverage, you're pretty much SOL in the NFL anyway.

They tried to create a spread offense, with personnel that wasn't suited for it and their offensive coordinator as well as Fox had little experience with it. Not saying it's their fault, and I give them all the credit in the world for the job they did do in making it work. I have a whole lot of respect for coach Fox and if it wasn't for him I wouldn't even have gave a rats ass about Tebow. But they were first year coaches and they were pretty clear that they wanted to go in a different direction from the beginning. It was what it was. But it didn't benefit that team nor Tebow. On top of everything, John Fox believes that it's ok to run the ball 80 consecutive times a game if it works. And if he could run the ball 80 times a game he would. He sees no problems with it. Honestly John Fox must have been in heaven with Tebow and that rushing game.

But if we're going to be honest, Denver had no intention of trying to make the playoffs last year and certainly had no intention of ever building around Tebow nor Orton. It was John Fox's first year, he wanted to ride out his first year with what he had, then load up in the off-season and make a run in year 2. Same routine he had when he came into Carolina.

Tebow came in and started winning and threw a big wrench in their plans. Screwed up their draft picks and everything.

Yeah i agree. actually surprised more teams didnt change their whole personnel and coaches around after all the success that the panthers had last year......

[Going4TheGreen]

Put him in Carolina's offense, and I believe he'll look as good as Cam Newton and as he did in college. They both ran that same style offense in college.

Cam Newton is an accurate passer.

[GoldenShowers]

1) Please stop referring to "the spread" as on offense. It's a formation. The Pats run their offense out of the base spread formation. So does Rich Rodriguez. Not even remotely similar offenses.

2) The UF offense in 2008 was the spread option: an read option based out of a spread formation, with components of the wildcat and the traditional triple option, with some WCO passing principles. But mostly its a simpleton scheme that has mostly died out of college football already.

3) Carolina ran NOTHING like the Rich Rod spread option. Also, Cam Newton is an actual QB with an accurate, strong arm, and is faster than Tebow.

4) Listening to advice from Urban Meyer, a career college coach, about "what will work in the NFL" is like listening to Mike Francessa as an authority on the game of basketball: completely idiotic.

[CowboysFan]

1) Please stop referring to "the spread" as on offense. It's a formation. The Pats run their offense out of the base spread formation. So does Rich Rodriguez. Not even remotely similar offenses.

2) The UF offense in 2008 was the spread option: an read option based out of a spread formation, with components of the wildcat and the traditional triple option, with some WCO passing principles. But mostly its a simpleton scheme that has mostly died out of college football already.

3) Carolina ran NOTHING like the Rich Rod spread option. Also, Cam Newton is an actual QB with an accurate, strong arm, and is faster than Tebow.

4) Listening to advice from Urban Meyer, a career college coach, about "what will work in the NFL" is like listening to Mike Francessa as an authority on the game of basketball: completely idiotic.

Cam newton ran a 4.59 Tebow ran a 4.62 ( that was Tebow's low so not sure about cam) so they appear to be comparable in speed, Tebow I believe beat cam in just about every other combine stat ( I'm repeating a talking head on tv on that one )

Cam is certainly the more developed passer ( by a wide margin )although Tebow has the main stat which is wins as a starter obviously.( the teams are actually more comparable than one would guess although Denver was the worst team in the nfl the past few seasons before all the changes in QB and offense)

I also want to address something i never hardly hear being brought up , The difference between 46.5% and 58% completion was 3 more completions a game . Tebow never checked down , but he gained 950 yards rushing in first 16 starts (Includes post season ) that's a lot of 7 yard dumps worth of yardage , Tebow just did the same production a different way. That's my opinion , he had 3835 total yards and 32 TDs In first 16 starts ( includes 2 post season games as part of those starts) that's pretty good production setting aside the completion percentage and setting aside all the talk that he sucks .

[Bannon]

2) The UF offense in 2008 was the spread option: an read option based out of a spread formation, with components of the wildcat and the traditional triple option, with some WCO passing principles. But mostly its a simpleton scheme that has mostly died out of college football already.

So before Tony Soprano had come out with Wildcat, Florida was running it?

And WCO? LOL.

[GoldenShowers]

LOL wait you dont actually believe Sparano invented the wildcat do you hahaha? PLEASE do your homework.

Yes, Urbans Spread Option is a combo of the triple option, the single wing (wildcat), and the WCO. Thats exactly what it is, actually, and its done out of the spread formation. In 2006, it was more WCO based, and in 2008 it was more option based.

[Slap]

But if we're going to be honest, Denver had no intention of trying to make the playoffs last year and certainly had no intention of ever building around Tebow nor Orton. It was John Fox's first year, he wanted to ride out his first year with what he had, then load up in the off-season and make a run in year 2. Same routine he had when he came into Carolina.

Tebow came in and started winning and threw a big wrench in their plans. Screwed up their draft picks and everything.

Lots of silly assertions in this post, but I'll just focus on this last, most inane, part. You have to be crazy to think John Fox came to Denver wanting to lose football games to gain a higher draft pick. First off, no coach does that and certainly not his first year on the job. Second, he saw that losing football games was what bought his predecessor a bus ticket to Missouri. Now, I'm not saying that's the only thing that got McDickless fired. Being an egomaniac and an asshole was part of the equation, but he could have maintained those traits and held his job if he was winning football games.

The Broncos instituted elements of the spread option partially to make Tebow more comfortable, but also because he was very ineffective in a conventional pro style offense.

[GoldenShowers]

Ok so let's summarize the March-joined "Jets" fans point here:

1) John Fox wanted to lose, and it was to his dismay that he had to start Tebow. Or perhaps he wanted to lose, and thus decided to start Tebow and his evil genius plan backfired!

2) The reason Tebow can't throw isn't bc of the worst throwing motion Ive ever seen, horrendous footwork, and a complete inability to go through progressions: it's bc of Willis McGahee!

3) The Broncos didn't bring in Percy Harvin, so how do you expect Tebow to throw!

4) Tony Sparano invented the wildcat in 2008, and just picked a name out of his hat to label it.

5)Urban Meyer runs a secret offense that only Tebow knows, and that doesnt have any WCO elements, nor any single wing elements, and had John Fox not been such an ego maniac, Tebow would have thrown for 5,000 yards and won the superbowl using this GENIUS UNSTOPPABLE SCHEME....."the spread"

[OMGTimTebow]

That was the problem in Denver. They didn't have a coaching staff with any experience in the spread offense.

The word locally was that Tebow actually had to teach OC Mike McCoy the spread so that they could put in the plays.

[whichfan]

Lots of silly assertions in this post, but I'll just focus on this last, most inane, part. You have to be crazy to think John Fox came to Denver wanting to lose football games to gain a higher draft pick. First off, no coach does that and certainly not his first year on the job. Second, he saw that losing football games was what bought his predecessor a bus ticket to Missouri. Now, I'm not saying that's the only thing that got McDickless fired. Being an egomaniac and an asshole was part of the equation, but he could have maintained those traits and held his job if he was winning football games.

The Broncos instituted elements of the spread option partially to make Tebow more comfortable, but also because he was very ineffective in a conventional pro style offense.

No I never said John Fox wanted to lose. He went 7-9 in Carolina his first year and his second year made the Superbowl. I said they wanted to cruise through the season and load up in the off season. Nobody wants to lose, but you also have to be realistic when building a team. Fox wasn't brought there to take that team to the playoffs in his first year as a coach. Broncos weren't the 49ers.

[Slap]

That's correct. The Broncos wouldn't go nine years between winning seasons like the 49ers.

[whichfan]

That's correct. The Broncos wouldn't go nine years between winning seasons like the 49ers.

Yes but that also means the 49ers have been loading up on top draft prospects for 9 years so Harbaugh had a pool of talent to work with his first year. No other NFL coach probably had that except maybe Jim Schwartz when he went to the Lions.

[VanderbiltJets]

Urban, I don't think you should've went to OSU when you cited health concerns as your excuse to stop coaching at UF. Agree to disagree.

[catsigater]

Urban, I don't think you should've went to OSU when you cited health concerns as your excuse to stop coaching at UF. Agree to disagree.
Not to mention saying he wasn't going to coach again until all his kids graduated H.S, which they haven't.

[Bannon]

Urban was afflicted with a rare disease called "Nomo-tebow"

[VanderbiltJets]

Not to mention saying he wasn't going to coach again until all his kids graduated H.S, which they haven't.

Even when he made the decision he was obviously leaving to avoid a rebuild and take a better job later on.

[Coach K]

Did someone seriously compare tebow to cam?

Gtfo

Carolinas defense was swiss cheese and cam is a top 10 qb as long as he doesn't regress from his rookie season.

If you need a qb you take cam newton over tebow 10 times out of 10.

Maybe urban meyer can try to run his system with tebow in the pros. If he thought he had heart problems than.

Tebow is a fullback who can throw bombs. That's about it.

I've always said he's not a franchise qb. Player yes. Qb no. I've also always said if anyone has the work ethic to prove me wrong its tim tebow.

I just don't plan on eating that crow.......ever.

[VanderbiltJets]

Did someone seriously compare tebow to cam?

Gtfo

Carolinas defense was swiss cheese and cam is a top 10 qb as long as he doesn't regress from his rookie season.

If you need a qb you take cam newton over tebow 10 times out of 10.

Maybe urban meyer can try to run his system with tebow in the pros. If he thought he had heart problems than.

Tebow is a fullback who can throw bombs. That's about it.

I've always said he's not a franchise qb. Player yes. Qb no. I've also always said if anyone has the work ethic to prove me wrong its tim tebow.

I just don't plan on eating that crow.......ever.

Cam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tim. I feel like im comparing tom brady to brad smith.

[Coach K]

Cam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tim. I feel like im comparing tom brady to brad smith.

That's my point

Glad someone agrees.

[Slap]

Not only did Can exceed expectations as a rookie quarterback, even one drafted first overall, but he handled the attempts by various media sources to assassinate his character with class and dignity.

[VanderbiltJets]

So before Tony Soprano had come out with Wildcat, Florida was running it?

And WCO? LOL.

...? I hope you're joking... Where do you think the 'wildcat' came from? Miami got it straight from Malzahn I believe.

[VanderbiltJets]

2) The UF offense in 2008 was the spread option: an read option based out of a spread formation, with components of the wildcat and the traditional triple option, with some WCO passing principles. But mostly its a simpleton scheme that has mostly died out of college football already.

I have to clarify that the spread less by school and more by system. Urban brought the spread to UF and he's been using it ever since his days at Bowling Green.

[Bannon]

...? I hope you're joking... Where do you think the 'wildcat' came from? Miami got it straight from Malzahn I believe.

Not joking.

It's a variation of the Single Wing, invented by Pop Warner long ago. "Wildcat" is the name given when the Dolphins started running it in 2008.

So the idea that the Urban Meyer's spread option takes components of the Wildcat and combines them with West Coast Offense is a misnomer at best, silly at worst.

But I understand -- it's common for many fans to use the term "wildcat" as synonymous with a lot of things in a broad sense. In this case, it is inaccurate. Because you tied it very specifically to the 2008 Florida offense, as if they were actually drawing upon the Dolphins "Wildcat" at that time.

[VanderbiltJets]

Because you tied it very specifically to the 2008 Florida offense, as if they were actually drawing upon the Dolphins "Wildcat" at that time.

You lost me here

EDIT: I think you meant

Because "Golden Showers" tied it very specifically to the 2008 Florida offense, as if they were actually drawing upon the Dolphins "Wildcat" at that time.

[Bannon]

Okay, whiff. Looks like I got my quotes mixed up.

[VanderbiltJets]

Okay, whiff. Looks like I got my quotes mixed up.

No worries I was on my phone when I first read the post and got very, very confused

[Biggs]

Did someone seriously compare tebow to cam?

Gtfo

Carolinas defense was swiss cheese and cam is a top 10 qb as long as he doesn't regress from his rookie season.

If you need a qb you take cam newton over tebow 10 times out of 10.

Maybe urban meyer can try to run his system with tebow in the pros. If he thought he had heart problems than.

Tebow is a fullback who can throw bombs. That's about it.

I've always said he's not a franchise qb. Player yes. Qb no. I've also always said if anyone has the work ethic to prove me wrong its tim tebow.

I just don't plan on eating that crow.......ever.

There are now people on this board who would compare Tebow favorably to Roger Staubach. It's not Tebow mania, it's the twilight zone.

[CowboysFan]

There are now people on this board who would compare Tebow favorably to Roger Staubach. It's not Tebow mania, it's the twilight zone.

I am the one who made the comparison and being as kind I can with the next comment :

I have been a Cowboy fan for 35 years . I saw Staubach take the field and forgot more about him this morning than most people on these boards know about him period.

Throwing is not the only thing that makes a quarterback and leader

Roger and Tebow have many things that parallel.

Leadership intangibles
Deeply religious
Comebacks ( Roger was nicknamed captain comeback and Tebow set the all time record for 4th quarter comebacks in first 16 starts )
Illusiveness in the pocket and the ability to extend plays with legs


I'll stand by what said.

[Slap]

Well, Tebow does have the jump pass in his arsenal.

I saw a lot of the Dodger's career, too, but I was rooting for Jack Youngblood to tear his head off. I became a fan of Staubach's the day he retired.

[CowboysFan]

Well, Tebow does have the jump pass in his arsenal.

I saw a lot of the Dodger's career, too, but I was rooting for Jack Youngblood to tear his head off. I became a fan of Staubach's the day he retired.

Jack a legendary hall of famer if there ever was one .

Jack Youngblood has something pretty big in common with Tebow if I remember correctly :grin:

[RobertPooner]

both badass Gators that have played with a broken leg at some point. Jack gets the nod for doing it in the NFL.

[instaGATOR]

Rookie season - 3 cold off the bench season ending starts for a 3-13 (.231) team.
He goes 1-2 (.333) for a better winning percentage than the 7th year NFL, 2nd year Bronco Vet QB.

LOCKOUT Off Season, ZERO work with the Bronco coaches.

2011 Preseason 'FAIR' QB competition:
B. Quinn 69 PER
K. Orton 104 PER
T. Tebow 108 PER plus 5.4 ypc rushing.

The Bronco Staff gives the 1st Team Practice time and starting job to their
'Best Chance To Win QB' which they determine is .231 - 3-10 - 104 Orton!
He then goes 1-4 (.200), so they trade their only offensive Pro Bowler, WR Lloyd.
The #2 2010 WR Gaffney had already been traded away to the Skins.

And NOW they finally start cold off the bench Tebow.
All he does is go 7-4 plus 1-1 for an 8-5 Playoff Season.

And yet I see geniuses wanting to compare him to long time Veteran NFL QB's.
Or calling him a 2nd year player who no longer should be considered a rookie QB.

So 3 end of season cold starts, followed by a Lock-out, followed by a mid-season cold 13 starts,
for a total of 16 split season starts separated by a lockout makes Tim a 2nd year Veteran QB?
WTF????

Somebody please define 'FAIR' for me, cause I must not understand what the word means.....

PS

sCam Newton's W/L record is what?
(here, I'll help you out with this first one, 6-10 to 9-7 over their 1st 16 starts)

Compare their Yds/Comp averages for us.
sCam Newton's accurate passer TD/Int Ratio is what?
sCam Newton's receivers are who, compared to Denver's?
sCam Newton couldn't beat out Tim when they were both at UF using the same teammates.

Tim did better with a much less talented team under way worse conditions than sCam had.

BTW, both played in the SEC, but Tim is the one that holds the SEC's All Time Passer Efficiency Rating Career Record with a 170.79 PER, 88 TD's to just 16 Ints.
That's also way better than Peyton did in the SEC back at Tenn.

PSS

Urban/Tebow at UF, with that crappy Spread/Option offense, only managed to go 48-7 with 2 BCS-NC's.
That was against 40 Bowl Teams out of 55 opponents while playing in the conference with the last 6 consecutive BCS-NC's.

They didn't change the Bronco offense at all, Tim simply got them to add some Read/Option plays that actually worked. Worked so well in fact that Denver went from #27 rushing in the NFL to #1 in rushing.
Tim showed them what would work, not the other way around, otherwise they wouldn't have started off 1-4 with 8th year cannon armed Orton.

[GoldenShowers]

I now have to amend what I had said earlier to add:

6) Tim Tebow taught the Broncos how to run an offense and beat NFL defenses

7) College stats of passer rating mean more in the NFL then a persons actual NFL passer rating.

Anything else you "Jets" fans want to add? I'm not sure which group is more pathetic, the born agains or the Gator fans. Gator fans are like Red Sox fans in that they had decades of futility and embarrassment, then finally become good for like 3 years, and now act like they are this all time great collegiate football program. Im sure there are plenty of Gator sites where you can prop up your hero and discuss how you still have yet to go undefeated.

[evojoe67]

Hey coach,STFU!

[VanderbiltJets]

PSS

Urban/Tebow at UF, with that crappy Spread/Option offense, only managed to go 48-7 with 2 BCS-NC's.
That was against 40 Bowl Teams out of 55 opponents while playing in the conference with the last 6 consecutive BCS-NC's.


If we're talking college numbers the Jets should sign Eric Crouch, Jason White, and Troy Smith. Super Bowl for sure

[tzinc]

The Broncos made a big deal about the Tebow system they put in but it wasn't a Tebow system. It was Fox's run heavy system with option added in.

The reality is a Tebow system is more like a Meyer system with a lot of spread offense. With passing.

The Broncos system sucked for Orton and it would have sucked for Tebow as well if he wasn't so talented at running which made the Fox system seem slightly better.

A Tebow offense consists of passing offense and option plays NOT option plays and a run offense. The only reason their run offense go better was Tebow was their QB and made it better

[Bannon]

The reality is a Tebow system is more like a Meyer system with a lot of spread offense. With passing.

Seems like the whole point is spread 'em out -- create a bunch of potential green space. If they honor the pass, burn them with runs out of the shotgun. If they get cute and try to load the box, pop 'em with a pass with all those receivers spread out.

[CowboysFan]

If we're talking college numbers the Jets should sign Eric Crouch, Jason White, and Troy Smith. Super Bowl for sure

yeah but none of them had Tebow's numbers in college..not sure what you meant...

[VanderbiltJets]

yeah but none of them had Tebow's numbers in college..not sure what you meant...

Players that "won" in college. It was a direct response to UF's record, thereby implying personal success by other players in college would also lead the Jets to victory. The remark was sarcastic and I could've spent more time thinking of a legit winner in college that didn't pan out in the NFL but I took the lazy man's route and named some random Heisman winners.

[CowboysFan]

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