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[grkmanga31]

This whole situation is such a clusterfuck.

[JetsUK]

I dont buy this "Jets are idiots didnt read the contract" point.

Under the terms of the contract the Broncos chose to pay Tebow an advance against his salary

That contract is then transferred to the Jets who effectively step into the shoes of the Broncos so as far as the Jets are concerned, they are taking on a player that has received advanced payments.

I would be amazed if there was a clause in Tebows contract that would state "in the event we trade you then whomever take over your contract must repay to the Broncos any sums paid to you in advance" - why would it?

So unless the Broncos made it clear that a condition of the trade was that the would look to recover that payment how would the Jets have ever appreciated that there would be anything to pay?

If someone was selling a car and they had paid the road tax on it for the next 12 months and I bought that car i would assume the price i agreed to took into account the fact i was getting the benefit of this advanced payment unless they made it very clear that this sum had to be repaid.

A lack of communication from the Broncos seems more likely than a lack of understanding by the Jets IMHO.

[Nick07]

So, is this Tebow you're talking about, or Sanchez?
I was talking about Tebow

[Jagsbch]

You have no clue what your talking about Jag's...
Tebow hesitates on release, stairs down receivers, does not throw a good ball, VERY inaccurate, Does not go through progressions, fumbles the ball if you touch him, and likes to run the wrong way...

LMAO I love how you over exagerate the situation regarding a QB who has only played 16 games.

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[Hobbes3259]

4th rounder for him no way and did anyone else hear Terrell Thomas' tweet "Memo to #Tebow: Do yourself a favor - demand a trade and hold out. You don't want to be part of Gang Green's mess- lol." Fuck you NYG

A guy that can only crack the starting lineup do to injury, is talking shit?

Stay Classy NYG.

[ProfJets]

What would be a hilarious conclusion to this saga is Tebow winning a Super Bowl with the Jaguars.

I'm sure at that point Tannenbaum (if still here) would be absolutely massacred for not completing this deal over a measly $5 million.

I wouldn't be too concerned about that possibility

[reverseapachemaster]

I dont buy this "Jets are idiots didnt read the contract" point.

Under the terms of the contract the Broncos chose to pay Tebow an advance against his salary

That contract is then transferred to the Jets who effectively step into the shoes of the Broncos so as far as the Jets are concerned, they are taking on a player that has received advanced payments.

I would be amazed if there was a clause in Tebows contract that would state "in the event we trade you then whomever take over your contract must repay to the Broncos any sums paid to you in advance" - why would it?

So unless the Broncos made it clear that a condition of the trade was that the would look to recover that payment how would the Jets have ever appreciated that there would be anything to pay?

If someone was selling a car and they had paid the road tax on it for the next 12 months and I bought that car i would assume the price i agreed to took into account the fact i was getting the benefit of this advanced payment unless they made it very clear that this sum had to be repaid.

A lack of communication from the Broncos seems more likely than a lack of understanding by the Jets IMHO.

When you buy a house and take out a mortgage the bank pays the seller in full. Then you pay back the bank in installments. If the bank sells your mortgage to an investor, the investor pays the bank the remaining value on the mortgage and you keep paying. The bank doesn't lose money because it advanced the full payment on your house but traded the mortgage.

[Hobbes3259]

I dont buy this "Jets are idiots didnt read the contract" point.

Under the terms of the contract the Broncos chose to pay Tebow an advance against his salary

That contract is then transferred to the Jets who effectively step into the shoes of the Broncos so as far as the Jets are concerned, they are taking on a player that has received advanced payments.

I would be amazed if there was a clause in Tebows contract that would state "in the event we trade you then whomever take over your contract must repay to the Broncos any sums paid to you in advance" - why would it?

So unless the Broncos made it clear that a condition of the trade was that the would look to recover that payment how would the Jets have ever appreciated that there would be anything to pay?

If someone was selling a car and they had paid the road tax on it for the next 12 months and I bought that car i would assume the price i agreed to took into account the fact i was getting the benefit of this advanced payment unless they made it very clear that this sum had to be repaid.

A lack of communication from the Broncos seems more likely than a lack of understanding by the Jets IMHO.

That's the way it was initially reported, It seems to me like you have 'unnamed NFL sources' spinning it the other way.

I cannot believe the NFLPA would allow such a clause, because it becomes in effect an extra way to tag a player....

The earlier news reports quoted what the Jets believed were the salaries they were agreeing to...

[KurtTheJetsFan]

How do any you mooks think this is a good trade? We're giving up a 4th and 6th for guy who will barely be on the field. If he isnt a threat to the starting qb position why give up so much a few wildcat plays? He is not a wr, hb or te! He is an option qb, thats it! Worst trade EVER! Now i know there truly is no god.

He has transferable skills to other positions. This is a football player above all else. I've hated Tebow since his rookie year.Mainly b/c I linked him to Josh Mcdaniels whom I can't stand..but also, like you felt he was a mere option QB with bust written all over him. But you know what? He made alot of NFL defenses including our's look silly in some big moments with that option garbage. That's b/c he's gritty football player with a strong will.

Also, I remember another college option Quarterback who set all kinds of records who succeeded in the green & white who made his living as an all purpose skill guy.Come to think of it he still plays in the AFC East.Jets offense really missed those 2-3 big plays Smith seemed to make in every game...just sayin..

I've defended Tannenbaum through alot during his tenure. Hell I still think Vlad Ducasse was a good pick. Call me an apologist for all I care..But not reviewing a contract before executing a trade on a player this high profile that you KNEW the media world would explode over?! Absolutely inexcusable & embarrassing.

Like the trade or not the Jets have to execute on this NOW. They will be labeled complete laughingstocks if they end up without Tim Tebow. Jets had this same bad karma with the Assomogha bullshit. This can't happen 2 years in a row & this could be PR suicide.

A potential compromise? One of 2 things to add to the table.


1. Agree to a some portion of the 5 mill and
A. 5th rounder instead of 4th round
or
B. 4th rounder only still include Denver's 7th

2. Pay the 5 mill but Include Bart Scott in the deal. Jets end up down 1M.

One way or other FINISH THE TRADE.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

When you buy a house and take out a mortgage the bank pays the seller in full. Then you pay back the bank in installments. If the bank sells your mortgage to an investor, the investor pays the bank the remaining value on the mortgage and you keep paying. The bank doesn't lose money because it advanced the full payment on your house but traded the mortgage.

What kind of salary cap is the bank working with? Is Tebow available to them?

[NYJetsMan7]

If it goes through or doesn't we can't get any worse. We haven't won a fucking SB in over 40 yrs!

So all the logic in the world over this time hasn't proven true.

[slimjasi]

I do not believe the Jets acquire Tim Tebow to play Full Back.

Tebow is the man.

Sanchez is out. It's the only thing that makes even a tiny bit of sense.

And if this is the case, then:

Tanny trades Sanchez and our #1 pick to get Richardson and goes all in on a stud RG, huge blocking TE (Vlad maybe) and will re-define the meaning of GROUND AND POUND YOUR ASS ALL DAY LONG.

That's it for this year outside Tanny's best shot at a OLB pass rusher.

Cro moves inside, Wislon moves outside, Strick grabs the slot in the nickle.

Is this insane?

Don't need to draft a receiver.
Don't need to draft a running back.
Don't need to draft a free safety.
Stadium is packed and the Jets own the back pages of every rag and ESPN. Giants who?

All Tanny needs is Tebow under center, Richardson, and a 375 pound right side lineman that can crush ppl without even worrying about pass blocking. And Tanny's got a nearly full draft AND Sanchez to get it done.

Bottom line Rex and now Sparano have worn Tanny down and convinced him that 11 huge guys who can run fast and crush ppl is the way to go on offense.

It's Tebow time folks....get used to it.


No chance. None. whatsoever. The Jets aren't trading Sanchez. And we aren't winning shit without at least a semblance of a vertical passing game.

[KurtTheJetsFan]

I dont buy this "Jets are idiots didnt read the contract" point.

Under the terms of the contract the Broncos chose to pay Tebow an advance against his salary

That contract is then transferred to the Jets who effectively step into the shoes of the Broncos so as far as the Jets are concerned, they are taking on a player that has received advanced payments.

I would be amazed if there was a clause in Tebows contract that would state "in the event we trade you then whomever take over your contract must repay to the Broncos any sums paid to you in advance" - why would it?

So unless the Broncos made it clear that a condition of the trade was that the would look to recover that payment how would the Jets have ever appreciated that there would be anything to pay?

If someone was selling a car and they had paid the road tax on it for the next 12 months and I bought that car i would assume the price i agreed to took into account the fact i was getting the benefit of this advanced payment unless they made it very clear that this sum had to be repaid.

A lack of communication from the Broncos seems more likely than a lack of understanding by the Jets IMHO.


Very interesting. Could come down to a legal interpretation. The best way to resolve this is to compromise the guaranteed with an offset or mix up the compensation.

Any contract attorneys in the house?

[reverseapachemaster]

What kind of salary cap is the bank working with? Is Tebow available to them?

Not Tebow but another underwear model willing to turn his profession of faith into a gimmick.

[d3ismet]

I am surprised that the Jets actually went after Tebow. I thought it was just a joke. I am glad to hear the deal could be nullified. My gut instinct tells me the Jets front office will get the deal done to save their faces. It's really a shame. Don't get me wrong. I like Tim Tebow. He's a great guy who just wants to play football and loves to win.

[typeOnegative13NY]

One thing that confuses me. Did we even try to get Mario wiliams,the player we could really need? I can see a good use for Tebow as a wildcat etc,but .....?

[PinPointPenning10]

One thing that confuses me. Did we even try to get Mario wiliams,the player we could really need? I can see a good use for Tebow as a wildcat etc,but .....?

Mario Williams got the biggest contract for a defensive player in NFL history. It's not a comparable situation.

[reverseapachemaster]

Very interesting. Could come down to a legal interpretation. The best way to resolve this is to compromise the guaranteed with an offset or mix up the compensation.

Any contract attorneys in the house?

Haven't 100 people said the Jets didn't get access to the contract until after they agreed to the general principles of the trade?

If so, and the Jets didn't know about the advance clause, then there's no deal until the Jets agree to all the terms after reviewing the contract during the grace period. Even if the Jets knew about the clause it's probably still open for negotiation until the contract can be reviewed.

[SufferingJetsFan]

One thing that confuses me. Did we even try to get Mario wiliams,the player we could really need?

I'd love Williams, but I'm sure the Jets didn't pursue him knowing they didn't have nearly enough cap room. They never could have afforded him.

[Jerseyboyisback]

One thing that confuses me. Did we even try to get Mario wiliams,the player we could really need? I can see a good use for Tebow as a wildcat etc,but .....?

What I have been saying all along.......not mario but we need to fill the wholes we have and add depth, a #2 WR, a RB, RT and G, S/FS, LB.

This does not thing for us. What maybe we win 1 or 2 more games but causes alot of drama

[JetsKickAss]

Cannot believe almost 40% of this forum's supposedly 'smart & informed' Jets fans want Tebow on the team.

I like the kid, I hope he turns out to have a great career, but he cannot help the Jets and the circus he brings will destroy this team.

[gsulli5861]

Not an attorney but there would have to be some compromise to get this done. At this point there is no deal so the Jet's couls walk away at anytime. I have very mixed feelings on this. I like Tebow and I believe he's a playmaker but this is such a ballsy move. I'm an "no guts no glory" guy but I probably would not have done this deal.

[Phear]

One thing that confuses me. Did we even try to get Mario wiliams,the player we could really need? I can see a good use for Tebow as a wildcat etc,but .....?

Yes, the jets offered him 16.25 per hour. He wanted a better benefit package though.

[reverseapachemaster]

It's perfectly possible the Jets knew they would have to pay the advance but threw out some mock surprise to try to negotiate the numbers down.

[reverseapachemaster]

Yes, the jets offered him 16.25 per hour. He wanted a better benefit package though.

I'm pretty sure they offered to promote "Mario'ing" as a soft benefit but he wasn't buying it since it would make him feel like a cheap whore doing some stupid move on the field.

[SufferingJetsFan]

What I have been saying all along.......not mario but we need to fill the wholes we have and add depth, a #2 WR, a RB, RT and G, S/FS, LB.

This does not thing for us. What maybe we win 1 or 2 more games but causes alot of drama

I agree. The Jets have needs that they should be attempting to fill instead. A backup QB that may take 5-6 snaps a game to run the WC is not one of those needs.

How about a cover safety? A proven downfield threat at WR? Anyone to protect Sanchez other than the Vlad/Hunter combo they seem happy with?

This Tebow crap is stupid on so many levels.

[JetsUK]

Does anyone know - does the $5m (if paid) count against the cap?

[JetsUK]

What maybe we win 1 or 2 more games but causes alot of drama

true, but 1 more game could have put us in the playoffs.

[reverseapachemaster]

Does anyone know - does the $5m (if paid) count against the cap?

It counts against the Chicago Bears' cap.

[Jerseyboyisback]

Does anyone know - does the $5m (if paid) count against the cap?

I dont think so, I see it as garenteed money and or bonus so I do not think so.......I could be very wrong though.

[The Dark Knight]

Whatcha gonna do brother? when Tebowmania ruins your day?

[Jerseyboyisback]

true, but 1 more game could have put us in the playoffs.

And a titans loss but that didnt happen!! There were games that the Jets could have won....AKA broncos but D choked (SMITH)

[Axel3419]

It does, I believe. Why else would this deal take so long? Tebow would make any owner WAY more than 5 million dollars....

[Denorex]

They better not agree to the 5 mill just to save face.

[JoeWillie130]

Bet jets end up giving up more now that jags are pushing it and to not look like total fools.

[deathstar]

It does, I believe. Why else would this deal take so long? Tebow would make any owner WAY more than 5 million dollars....

The Jets already sell out.

Jersey income is shared.

You guys are overestimating the money potential...

This probably was a Tony Morono trade cause he wants to run the wildcat which is completely dead now...

[Jerseyboyisback]

SORRY WAS in other tread and fake

[KurtTheJetsFan]

Haven't 100 people said the Jets didn't get access to the contract until after they agreed to the general principles of the trade?

If so, and the Jets didn't know about the advance clause, then there's no deal until the Jets agree to all the terms after reviewing the contract during the grace period. Even if the Jets knew about the clause it's probably still open for negotiation until the contract can be reviewed.

So in other words the trade was announced prematurely for the publicity aspect. Shouldn't the "cap wiz business lawyer" Tannenbaum know that you never announce a trade with this high profile of a player without at least REVIEWING the clauses of the player's contract?!

The Jets couldn't wait to run to the media with this. Well one way or another this will teach them the lesson that the media is NOT their friends & football operations need to be handled in the proper manner.

[milcus]

Just pay the 5 million and allow Tebow to win the job (and make no mistake, he will beat Sanchez out).

I, for one, love this move. And I cant wait to see Tim Tebow play qb for the Jets.

[JdotGriff]

Just pay the 5 million and allow Tebow to win the job (and make no mistake, he will beat Sanchez out).

I, for one, love this move. And I cant wait to see Tim Tebow play qb for the Jets.

Im guessing your a pats fan?

[JetsUK]

From nfl.com:

The Jets and Jaguars are now in discussions with Broncos about a potential trade for quarterback Tim Tebow, league sources told NFL Network's Michael Lombardi on Wednesday.

The Jets had previously announced that they had agreed with the Broncos on a trade, but the deal hit a snag when it came to the Broncos' desire to recoup $5 million that they had paid in Tebow's original rookie contract.

The brother of Tim Tebow says he thinks the snag has the talks "almost back to square one."

Robby Tebow, playing at a pro-am golf tournament at the Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill in Orlando, Fla., said Wednesday that he and the Broncos quarterback "thought it was done, like he was signed, sealed and delivered. Apparently, they didn't read the fine print."

[Cman55]

This deal is a PR stunt pure and simple. This FO/CS is either: Stupid for not reading the contract OR Stupid for giving an extension, no matter what the cap relief would be, to a QB they have no faith in.

If you want to believe that Tebow and Sanchez can co-exist, keep dreaming. The very second Sanchez screws up, the "We want Tebow" chants will begin. This FO once again trades away DP's for what? Headlines? Cmon Man...This is beyond f'n stupid.

Woody's hand is evident in this decision. Feel free to believe this was a purely football move as anyone can believe whatever they so choose. This Franchise is once again, in need of an overhaul.

Ground and Pound won't get this team to the SB w/o a viable passing game AND a Pass Rush. Even BigMouth Rex knows this.

This team, while getting the back pages again, has embarrassed itself. We are again, the laughing stocks of the NFL.

I'll be glad once Adults are running the organization again. Obviously, Tannenbaum is a great Capologist. Rex is a great Defensive Coordinator. Both should return to their core strengths. Sadly, Woody is all in on both of these guys so as usual, Jet fans, just like the team they root for, are fucked w/o so much as a reach around.

[Don]

The Jets already sell out.

Jersey income is shared.

You guys are overestimating the money potential...

This probably was a Tony Morono trade cause he wants to run the wildcat which is completely dead now...

They almost sell out...there wasn't a game last year they weren't trying to get me to buy tickets.

[Barry the Baptist]

So in other words the trade was announced prematurely for the publicity aspect. Shouldn't the "cap wiz business lawyer" Tannenbaum know that you never announce a trade with this high profile of a player without at least REVIEWING the clauses of the player's contract?!

The Jets couldn't wait to run to the media with this. Well one way or another this will teach them the lesson that the media is NOT their friends & football operations need to be handled in the proper manner.

Either that or it teaches our braintrust that maybe he isn't qualified to run an NFL organization. This team is a fucking disgrace, they'll never get out of their own way. Much like my baseball team. It's almost as if they're cut from the same cloth.

[Nick07]

LMAO I love how you over exagerate the situation regarding a QB who has only played 16 games.

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watched most of the games he played at Florida. He had a lot of talent and played with a lot of talent but did not play in a professional system nor had to go through many progressions. He never had to look off the #1.

I understand your a fan of him, specially from you name. Laugh all you want, there is no exaggeration. Worst thing while he showed some progressions at times, he reverted back to old habits.

I really wish your Jags get him and give us a 3rd don't get me wrong... It will help you sell tickets.

BUT by you mentioning statistics from him in college. You do not know how to judge a QB coming out of school.

Big difference!

For instance, Brees killed it with his progressions in college and is what made him so well. He would have been drafted higher if not for his height. If you remember his famous throw against OSU, That was his 4th progression. I can probably count on two hands when Tebow looked at #2 while at Florida.

I loved Tebow when he was coming in once in a while at Florida and love him now. He is a great overall person and has very high motivation and drive which you can not teach someone.

I feel like he can come back from behind and wins games and play at the pro level but do not believe he is the future of the Broncos.

My reason is, His passing.

He will not be able to rely on his feet and have a huge career playing his style and he will never be the passer that is able to stick in the pocket. This is what wins championships and only way to be consistent.

He will never ever, ever ever be able to go through progressions and throw that nice ball quick on the 4th receiver. He will also never have sucess throwing until he revamps his bad habits on throwing the ball and gets a quick release.

If you watch cam in school he is consistently going through progressions. With him playing under Malzahn and regardless if you think they run a spread. He showed he had that ability. Malzahn was all about progressions.

Tebow has physical abilities and talent. I do not think he will mentally adapt to the NFL before and now. He has been in the league long enough to show him self progressing. When he was playing under Urban Meyer he did not have to go through pro style progressions and read defenses like he needs to in the NFL.

I always disliked spread offense "type" QB's coming into NFL because it is so hard for them to adapt (reason why I said Frisco should of grabbed Rogers not Smith during draft on my board).

He is fun to watch and wish he proves me wrong by showing this last season for the Broncos BUT I just do not see it.

[Royal Tee]

One thing that confuses me. Did we even try to get Mario wiliams,the player we could really need? I can see a good use for Tebow as a wildcat etc,but .....?

Because the Only Holes this francise is interested in filling are the empty PSL ones in the stands!!

They don't give a fuk about what the fans want or what the team really needs.

[reverseapachemaster]

I hope the Jags take him.

[k311]

Despite my gaffe with the fake mort report, I do see sources saying "watch for big news in the next 30 minutes"

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[LongTimeJetsFan]

Because the Only Holes this francise is interested in filling are the empty ones in the stands!!

They don't give a fuk about what the fans want or what the team really needs.

Yea it had nothing to do with our cap situation and him getting the biggest contract in the history of NFL defensive players. :rolleyes:

[SufferingJetsFan]

This deal is a PR stunt pure and simple. This FO/CS is either: Stupid for not reading the contract OR Stupid for giving an extension, no matter what the cap relief would be, to a QB they have no faith in.

If you want to believe that Tebow and Sanchez can co-exist, keep dreaming. The very second Sanchez screws up, the "We want Tebow" chants will begin. This FO once again trades away DP's for what? Headlines? Cmon Man...This is beyond f'n stupid.

Woody's hand is evident in this decision. Feel free to believe this was a purely football move as anyone can believe whatever they so choose. This Franchise is once again, in need of an overhaul.

Ground and Pound won't get this team to the SB w/o a viable passing game AND a Pass Rush. Even BigMouth Rex knows this.

This team, while getting the back pages again, has embarrassed itself. We are again, the laughing stocks of the NFL.

I'll be glad once Adults are running the organization again. Obviously, Tannenbaum is a great Capologist. Rex is a great Defensive Coordinator. Both should return to their core strengths. Sadly, Woody is all in on both of these guys so as usual, Jet fans, just like the team they root for, are fucked w/o so much as a reach around.

I'm inclined to agree with this. I'm very concerned about the Jets moving forward with this group in charge. So close for two years, but it seems to be unraveling fast.

[JetsUK]

despite the total clown nature of this debacle you have to admit its pretty entertaining - i havent been this glued to the site since we signed Favre!

[reverseapachemaster]

Seeing tweets Jags take Tebow not sure if they are legit.

[sbx213]

Just pay the 5 million and allow Tebow to win the job (and make no mistake, he will beat Sanchez out).

I, for one, love this move. And I cant wait to see Tim Tebow play qb for the Jets.
So it makes sense to you to have a QB who is guaranteed 20 million play backup to a QB who can't throw the ball? Genius.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Seeing tweets Jags take Tebow not sure if they are legit.

Unless it comes from one of the well known guys, don't buy it.

[The Dark Knight]

Unless it comes from one of the well known guys, don't buy it.

I wish I could buy it. I'd pay $5 mil for that news. Haha.

[milcus]

Im guessing your a pats fan?

Nope. I just dont base my opinions on players on political preferences. And I would be willing to bet a lot of the people who dont like him tend to vote for a particular political party and dont like him for what he represents. Just an educated guess, but I would be willing to bet that if you gave people truth serum and conducted a poll, 90% of the people who dont like him all vote the same way.

The guy is a winner and has talent. He has good football iq, a decent arm, and has that "It" factor. You work on his mechanics, and he has potential. And the attributes he has, you cant teach (see Exhibit "A," Sanchez, Mark for proof of that)

[Footballgod214]

Bottom line do you get a player that can do what Tebow can do for a 4th round pick? The answer is probably no.

If you include sold out over priced PSL's and tens of millions of dollars in over priced merchandise than Mr Johnson may disagree with you.

[RPOZ51]

Despite my gaffe with the fake mort report, I do see sources saying "watch for big news in the next 30 minutes"

It would really be something if the Jets get him, and end up paying more for him!

[Barry the Baptist]

despite the total clown nature of this debacle you have to admit its pretty entertaining - i havent been this glued to the site since we signed Favre!

Jeez man, it's like 1 AM in the UK right now... me... not even the end of the business day. The way it is you'll probably know how this ends up before I do.

[JetsUK]

it will be annoying if the Jets agree to a 3rd rd pick or something even worse to avoid paying the $5m - just let him go to the Jags

[milcus]

So it makes sense to you to have a QB who is guaranteed 20 million play backup to a QB who can't throw the ball? Genius.

No, he can throw the ball. His problem is he has a long delivery and accuracy problems. But he has an NFL caliber throwing arm.

I see this a lot like what happened in Philly when they got Vick.

[xmscott]

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Tebow to the Jets is absolutely disgusting I hope he goes to Jacksonville. It would be an upgrade for them.

We can draft a new RB with one of those picks.

[JetsUK]

Jeez man, it's like 1 AM in the UK right now... me... not even the end of the business day. The way it is you'll probably know how this ends up before I do.

nah its only 11pm.

[SufferingJetsFan]

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Tebow to the Jets is absolutely disgusting I hope he goes to Jacksonville. It would be an upgrade for them.

We can draft a new RB with one of those picks.

But how do you really feel, Kris? :grin:

[reverseapachemaster]

Wait, the Rams are still after him?

[NYGalPal]

Think the Jets would go through with the trade just to save face at this point?

[Barry the Baptist]

Nope. I just dont base my opinions on players on political preferences. And I would be willing to bet a lot of the people who dont like him tend to vote for a particular political party and dont like him for what he represents. Just an educated guess, but I would be willing to bet that if you gave people truth serum and conducted a poll, 90% of the people who dont like him all vote the same way.

The guy is a winner and has talent. He has good football iq, a decent arm, and has that "It" factor. You work on his mechanics, and he has potential. And the attributes he has, you cant teach (see Exhibit "A," Sanchez, Mark for proof of that)

Do you not think that Elway who quite possibly might be the greatest QB to ever play the game took a look at his mechanics? Not saying he's a coach but I would think he would know a little bit about playing the position.

[King Richard the 1st]

Nice quote by Jenkins. Way to kill the Front Office, A QB who may be on the team, and your starting running back. He'll probably say he quoted himself out of context

[milcus]

If you include sold out over priced PSL's and tens of millions of dollars in over priced merchandise than Mr Johnson may disagree with you.

I agree. This is a business. Tebow gets people talking about the Jets. Tebow gets people hoping on the bandwagon. Tebow gets people to buy Jets merchandise. And Tebow sells PSL's. I have already said I would go out and buy tickets within the hour if Tebow is given the chance to win the job.

Aside from Manning, who the Jets foolishly failed to pursue, Tebow is the next best player from a business perspective.

[JdotGriff]

Think the Jets would go through with the trade just to save face at this point?

You know things are bad when signing tebow saves face........:sad:

[neonleon]

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Tebow to the Jets is absolutely disgusting I hope he goes to Jacksonville. It would be an upgrade for them.

We can draft a new RB with one of those picks.

I agree with this somewhat. It is disgusting but the jets cannot draft a middle round rb every year. 4 years in a row would be ridiculous! Are we already giving up on Powell?

[reverseapachemaster]

Rams trying to outbid Jax?

[xmscott]

I agree with this somewhat. It is disgusting but the jets cannot draft a middle round rb every year. 4 years in a row would be ridiculous! Are we already giving up on Powell?

I wouldnt. The picks should be grouped up to move down and take a dominate pass rusher or RT.

[Br4dw4y5ux]

I do not believe the Jets acquire Tim Tebow to play Full Back.

Tebow is the man.

Sanchez is out. It's the only thing that makes even a tiny bit of sense.

And if this is the case, then:

Tanny trades Sanchez and our #1 pick to get Richardson and goes all in on a stud RG, huge blocking TE (Vlad maybe) and will re-define the meaning of GROUND AND POUND YOUR ASS ALL DAY LONG.

That's it for this year outside Tanny's best shot at a OLB pass rusher.

Cro moves inside, Wislon moves outside, Strick grabs the slot in the nickle.

Is this insane?

Don't need to draft a receiver.
Don't need to draft a running back.
Don't need to draft a free safety.
Stadium is packed and the Jets own the back pages of every rag and ESPN. Giants who?

All Tanny needs is Tebow under center, Richardson, and a 375 pound right side lineman that can crush ppl without even worrying about pass blocking. And Tanny's got a nearly full draft AND Sanchez to get it done.

Bottom line Rex and now Sparano have worn Tanny down and convinced him that 11 huge guys who can run fast and crush ppl is the way to go on offense.

It's Tebow time folks....get used to it.

The Jets cannot trade Sanchez this season unless they find 21.25 million in cap space to do it. The new team would take on the 3.25 million in salary but he has got a mountain of dead money on the cap aside from that if he is traded.

[milcus]

Do you not think that Elway who quite possibly might be the greatest QB to ever play the game took a look at his mechanics? Not saying he's a coach but I would think he would know a little bit about playing the position.

Honestly, I dont know what Elway did or did not do. All I do know is that at least 3 teams want Tebow, and many coaches think he can be a viable player in the NFL.

[azhar80]

Your last paragraph describes Mark Sanchez to a T. He is a winner, good arm, its just lack of experience. Mark def had the IT factor, he handles ny pressure and media like nobody else. Don't get it wrong Sanchez is a better qb maybe not a better religious athlete.

Sanchez is successful and has potential to be a top 5 qb, you cannot say that abt Tblow.

Nope. I just dont base my opinions on players on political preferences. And I would be willing to bet a lot of the people who dont like him tend to vote for a particular political party and dont like him for what he represents. Just an educated guess, but I would be willing to bet that if you gave people truth serum and conducted a poll, 90% of the people who dont like him all vote the same way.

The guy is a winner and has talent. He has good football iq, a decent arm, and has that "It" factor. You work on his mechanics, and he has potential. And the attributes he has, you cant teach (see Exhibit "A," Sanchez, Mark for proof of that)

[Hooterdawg]

They should just due the original deal if $5M extra is involved:the Jets pay 5 mil plus the 4th for Tebow.

[raortega3]

Nope. I just dont base my opinions on players on political preferences. And I would be willing to bet a lot of the people who dont like him tend to vote for a particular political party and dont like him for what he represents. Just an educated guess, but I would be willing to bet that if you gave people truth serum and conducted a poll, 90% of the people who dont like him all vote the same way.

The guy is a winner and has talent. He has good football iq, a decent arm, and has that "It" factor. You work on his mechanics, and he has potential. And the attributes he has, you cant teach (see Exhibit "A," Sanchez, Mark for proof of that)

So you admit that you dislike Mexicans?

[JetsFan]

This is embarrassing, get it done or walk away. I had nothing bad to say about the actual trade, but this annoucing the trade not only before it was done, but before reading the paper is pathetic.

I think it would be worse to walk away, than to just pay them the money.

Everyone is joking about our team, you would think we were 2-14 last year instead of the Colts. Elway is the man and our staff are mere children whining about it not being fair.

[reverseapachemaster]

Jets back out -- fight between Rams and Jags?????

[Nick07]

I really hope it ends up going to Jags because Tebow will hurt your franchise IMO. You can look at Brandon Spano's Twitter and he will know the scoop as fast as Mort on this. Tebow is so big, people are no longer covering RG3's pro day and what happened to the saints. Good luck you all.

[milcus]

Your last paragraph describes Mark Sanchez to a T. He is a winner, good arm, its just lack of experience. Mark def had the IT factor, he handles ny pressure and media like nobody else. Don't get it wrong Sanchez is a better qb maybe not a better religious athlete.

Sanchez is successful and has potential to be a top 5 qb, you cannot say that abt Tblow.

Neither guy has top 5 potential. Tebow is at least exciting.

[sbx213]

No, he can throw the ball. His problem is he has a long delivery and accuracy problems. But he has an NFL caliber throwing arm.

I see this a lot like what happened in Philly when they got Vick.
Vick was a proven player before he went to jail. You can't compare this to what Tebow is. A lot of those games were wacky games where the Broncos got a lot of bounces and luck. Every game Tebow stunk for 3 quarters and then in the 4th quarter he was blessed. You know very well none of that miracle 4th quarter bullshit is going to happen to the Jets even if God himself touched the field.
And if the deal does go through (please no!) he will be the backup to Sanchez. You aren't guaranteeing Sanchez $20 million to play as a backup QB.

[Barry the Baptist]

Honestly, I dont know what Elway did or did not do. All I do know is that at least 3 teams want Tebow, and many coaches think he can be a viable player in the NFL.

Let's look at the 3 teams shall we?

Team A) has no fans, plays in a dead market and is only a short drive way from where Tebow played college ball. Could possibly move to LA if interested isn't drummed up soon.

Team B) just had their DC "banned indefinitely" , also is having trouble selling tickets and could also potentially be on the move to LA

Team C) Johnson Brothers, Tannenbaum and Ryan Circus who will do whatever they can to become the darlings of the offseason and remain in the spotlight while the other team in the city has absolutely disgraced you over and over.

[MURDR]

Honestly, people can say what they want, but in the end, I'm pretty sure our front office knows what's better for our team than the fans do. Also, no matter what happens, I'll always root for the Jets, so I might as well try and find the best in every situation (for example, if we go 0-16, at least I could say we'd get the #1 pick).

[milcus]

So you admit that you dislike Mexicans?

I would love to hear how you came to that conclusion from what I said. There was literally nothing in my post to lead to that conclusion.

[neonleon]

Nope. I just dont base my opinions on players on political preferences. And I would be willing to bet a lot of the people who dont like him tend to vote for a particular political party and dont like him for what he represents. Just an educated guess, but I would be willing to bet that if you gave people truth serum and conducted a poll, 90% of the people who dont like him all vote the same way.

The guy is a winner and has talent. He has good football iq, a decent arm, and has that "It" factor. You work on his mechanics, and he has potential. And the attributes he has, you cant teach (see Exhibit "A," Sanchez, Mark for proof of that)

He plays in the most basic nfl offense i have ever seen. When has he ever demonstrated a good football iq? They put a system in place like the one he ran at florida because he cannot for the life of him run a pro style offense.

[Royce Parker]

Nope. I just dont base my opinions on players on political preferences. And I would be willing to bet a lot of the people who dont like him tend to vote for a particular political party and dont like him for what he represents. Just an educated guess, but I would be willing to bet that if you gave people truth serum and conducted a poll, 90% of the people who dont like him all vote the same way.

The guy is a winner and has talent. He has good football iq, a decent arm, and has that "It" factor. You work on his mechanics, and he has potential. And the attributes he has, you cant teach (see Exhibit "A," Sanchez, Mark for proof of that)

What was Tebow's completion percentage last season? This thread has inspired you to new levels of ridiculousness.

[milcus]

Let's look at the 3 teams shall we?

Team A) has no fans, plays in a dead market and is only a short drive way from where Tebow played college ball. Could possibly move to LA if interested isn't drummed up soon.

Team B) just had their DC "banned indefinitely" , also is having trouble selling tickets and could also potentially be on the move to LA

Team C) Johnson Brothers, Tannenbaum and Ryan Circus who will do whatever they can to become the darlings of the offseason and remain in the spotlight while the other team in the city has absolutely disgraced you over and over.

Those are just 3 we know of. We have no clue who actually inquired. What if the Packers inquired? Would there be a caveat too?

I am just saying people are too dismissive of his talent. He has NFL caliber talent, and has shown that he can play in the NFL. And implying that it a miracle, or whatever other nonsense people have said, is disingenuous.

And like others have said, the guys who know better than the fans seem to like him.

[AbdulSalam]

I like Tebow, love to seem him come here and run the wildcat and some option football and see if that helps to improve the offense. If he winds up outplaying Sanchez then so be it. Hopefully this will push Sanchez to play better and if not he deserves to lose his job anyway.

[milcus]

What was Tebow's completion percentage last season? This thread has inspired you to new levels of ridiculousness.

46.5. With no reason to think it wont improve as he learns to play in the NFL.

It was 7 percentage points lower than the great Mark Sanchez in his 1st full season.

[raortega3]

I would love to hear how you came to that conclusion from what I said. There was literally nothing in my post to lead to that conclusion.

There are two sides to the coin. You are arguing that people who dislike Tebow dislike him for their political preference.

I am saying, you pretty much hate Sanchez more than anyone I have ever come across. Your hate must be politically driven as well. In this cliche backed argument that you have created, there is a political party for those who hate people whose surname is Sanchez, .

[typeOnegative13NY]

Yes, the jets offered him 16.25 per hour. He wanted a better benefit package though.

oh,well thats not nearly enough.

[dmarz45]

46.5. With no reason to think it wont improve as he learns to play in the NFL.

It was 7 percentage points lower than the great Mark Sanchez in his 1st full season.

54.5% is much much better sorry....

[displacedfan]

46.5. With no reason to think it wont improve as he learns to play in the NFL.

It was 7 percentage points lower than the great Mark Sanchez in his 1st full season.

There is a lot reason to think it won't improve. More so than all your reasons why Sanchez won't. If you thinking Tebow can be a starter and Sanchez, I cannot fathom how that logic works

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Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! Thank you thank you thank you salary advances!!!

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[Royce Parker]

46.5. With no reason to think it wont improve as he learns to play in the NFL.

It was 7 percentage points lower than the great Mark Sanchez in his 1st full season.

And that's the guy you think will come in and take this team to the promised land? We could be trading for Gabbert and you'd find a way to gush over how much better than Sanchez he is. Give it a rest already.

[grkmanga31]

Thank Tebow Christ

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Sorry. That was a fake Tim Tebow acount.

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Sorry. That was a fake Tim Tebow acount.

Fuck

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[The Dark Knight]

:lol: Fake Twitter account. This keeps getting more and more nuts.

[nyjetsfan7234]

that was a fake twitter as well..

[Phear]

Haha, this shit is great. Entertainment for the entire family.

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[colleen74]

Lol... How bored and weird do you have to be to sit around making fake twitter accounts and tweeting fake news??

[BleedGreen4ever]

Why the jaguars are still considering tebow is beyond me. they will sell out the firsy two home games before they are 0-4 with the worst qb in the game with no supporting cast and the ledgend of tebow is done, along with the jaguars. the jets on the otherhand have a position for himin our offensr even if he isnt starting in the wildcat. if the 5mil doesnt go against the cap pay it and make your money back in the first hour they open jersey sales. get the deal done and stop making our organization look bad.

[milcus]

There are two sides to the coin. You are arguing that people who dislike Tebow dislike him for their political preference.

I am saying, you pretty much hate Sanchez more than anyone I have ever come across. Your hate must be politically driven as well. In this cliche backed argument that you have created, there is a political party for those who hate people whose surname is Sanchez, .

Again, you are wrong. Many people who dislike Tebow make jokes about his virginity, religion, and his beliefs.

Me disliking Sanchez is solely based on his lack of ability to play qb. Neither I, not really anyone on here who dislikes him, has ever made jokes or said anything about him as a person. Hell, I actually like him as a person. I just dont like him as a qb.

And again, not to make this political, but you are 100% wrong about there being a political party for those who ""have people whose surname is Sanchez." There is a big difference between being against illegal immigrants and hating people. You assume being against illegal immigrants equals hate, which is an incorrect assumption.

And lastly, talking about Sanchez being "Mexican" shows more about how you think than anything else because you view a guy who was born in America, and happens to have the last name "Sanchez" as being a "Mexican," not an American. And you somehow equate disliking how a qb named "Sanchez" plays as being code for hating "Mexicans."

In other words, your assumption is DOA.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Again, you are wrong. Many people who dislike Tebow make jokes about his virginity, religion, and his beliefs.

Me disliking Sanchez is solely based on his lack of ability to play qb. Neither I, not really anyone on here who dislikes him, has ever made jokes or said anything about him as a person. Hell, I actually like him as a person. I just dont like him as a qb.

And again, not to make this political, but you are 100% wrong about there being a political party for those who ""have people whose surname is Sanchez." There is a big difference between being against illegal immigrants and hating people. You assume being against illegal immigrants equals hate, which is an incorrect assumption.

And lastly, talking about Sanchez being "Mexican" shows more about how you think than anything else because you view a guy who was born in America, and happens to have the last name "Sanchez" as being a "Mexican," not an American. And you somehow equate disliking how a qb named "Sanchez" plays as being code for hating "Mexicans."

In other words, your assumption is DOA.


Tebow is a worse QB than Sanchez, so your argument sucks.

[Ben Had]

Haha, this shit is great. Entertainment for the entire family.

Jet fans are the best...Ive been in tears.:grin:

[grumpynyjetsfaninME]

if this shit keeps up im going to be in the hospital bed next to my dad with a stroke. :(

[milcus]

54.5% is much much better sorry....

Actually, it is about 2 extra completions per game. And when much of Sanchez's passes have been short passes and dump-off's, it is not "much much better."

[Phear]

Tebow is a worse QB than Sanchez, so your argument sucks.

Haha, when do his arguments not suck?

[laxin]

Those are just 3 we know of. We have no clue who actually inquired. What if the Packers inquired? Would there be a caveat too?

I am just saying people are too dismissive of his talent. He has NFL caliber talent, and has shown that he can play in the NFL. And implying that it a miracle, or whatever other nonsense people have said, is disingenuous.

And like others have said, the guys who know better than the fans seem to like him.

You do realize that he is only drawing interest to be a wildcat QB or bring in fans. I think you are mixing up wildcat QB with NFL caliber QB who can run a prostyle offense... Because that is something he has proven incapable of.

[RPOZ51]

You gotta love these two guys . . .

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[Royce Parker]

Again, you are wrong. Many people who dislike Tebow make jokes about his virginity, religion, and his beliefs.

Me disliking Sanchez is solely based on his lack of ability to play qb. Neither I, not really anyone on here who dislikes him, has ever made jokes or said anything about him as a person. Hell, I actually like him as a person. I just dont like him as a qb.

And again, not to make this political, but you are 100% wrong about there being a political party for those who ""have people whose surname is Sanchez." There is a big difference between being against illegal immigrants and hating people. You assume being against illegal immigrants equals hate, which is an incorrect assumption.

And lastly, talking about Sanchez being "Mexican" shows more about how you think than anything else because you view a guy who was born in America, and happens to have the last name "Sanchez" as being a "Mexican," not an American. And you somehow equate disliking how a qb named "Sanchez" plays as being code for hating "Mexicans."

In other words, your assumption is DOA.

So on top of everything else you're also a right wing Republican who hates immigrants? Ugh.

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But this is not fake. Im am hearing the Jags are close to making this happen.

[Phear]

Actually, it is about 2 extra completions per game. And when much of Sanchez's passes have been short passes and dump-off's, it is not "much much better."

This argument is flawed because that is from Sanchez's 1st year, he threw the ball down field often enough. 2011 is when we saw a large increase in dump offs.

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[LongTimeJetsFan]

Actually, it is about 2 extra completions per game. And when much of Sanchez's passes have been short passes and dump-off's, it is not "much much better."

2011 completion percentages:
Tom Brady: 65.6%
Mark Sanchez: 56.7%
Tim Tebow: 46.5%

Sanchez is closer to Tom Brady in completion percentage than Tebow is to Sanchez.

[milcus]

You do realize that he is only drawing interest to be a wildcat QB or bring in fans. I think you are mixing up wildcat QB with NFL caliber QB who can run a prostyle offense... Because that is something he has proven incapable of.

Call him whatever you want. But wherever he goes, the second the starter struggles, fans will start chanting for Tebow, and before long, all those guys with Tebow jerseys (instead of Sanchez, Bradford, and Gabbert jerseys), will force the respective coach of the that team to make Tebow the starting qb.

[SufferingJetsFan]

I have a good feeling he will end up with the Jags, but damn the Jets will have egg on their face.

[milcus]

So on top of everything else you're also a right wing Republican who hates immigrants? Ugh.

Please go take a reading comprehension class.

[AbdulSalam]

pretty funny how some of these people who r hatin on tebow and the baby jesus are also the same geniuses who believe everything they read off of a twitter scroll.

[Sixto]

I don't care about egg. Let's just get those 2 picks back and do this right.

[NYGalPal]

I have a good feeling he will end up with the Jags, but damn the Jets will have egg on their face.
Yeah, I think the Jags will get him. The Jets will come out looking like dumb-asses.

[Sixto]

We need more drafts picks, not less.

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[Royce Parker]

pretty funny how some of these people who r hatin on tebow and the baby jesus are also the same geniuses who believe everything they read off of a twitter scroll.

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what does that even mean?

[NYJFOREVER]

I won't lie I don't mind the Jets trying to get Tebow, but if he is our starting QB the Jets shouldn't even try. Tebow is a great athlete and all but way to predictable. He would be great in the Wildcat and we can open up the Wildcat plays even more instead of the standard run and passes.

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That right there is hilarious :grin:

[dmarz45]

haha why do ppl keep insisting on posting fake news.

[laxin]

Call him whatever you want. But wherever he goes, the second the starter struggles, fans will start chanting for Tebow, and before long, all those guys with Tebow jerseys (instead of Sanchez, Bradford, and Gabbert jerseys), will force the respective coach of the that team to make Tebow the starting qb.

Exactly. Im sure thatll solve whatever locker room problems we have. Intelligence at its finest.

I heard the best way to fight a locker room cancer, was to make the rift even bigger.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

Yeah, I think the Jags will get him. The Jets will come out looking like dumb-asses.

In the long run, the Jets will come out for the better by a loooooong shot if this deal falls thru and Tebow goes to the Jags. Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't or can't make. Didn't a trade between SF and Balt for TO get messed up in a similar way a few years back? Think how happy Baltimore was about that a year later when TO was doing sit ups in his driveway trashing the Eagles. I'm not saying Tebow is TO, but the circus he brings to town with him is far worse and more damaging to a franchise.

[The Dark Knight]

Can we trade Tannenbaum for Fake Tebow?

[Bill Belichdouche]

Let's go Jacksonville

Get it done!!!

[SufferingJetsFan]

haha why do ppl keep insisting on posting fake news.

Some of these "insiders" (Lombardi) are so freaking desperate to break the story.

[davecrazy]

Tannembaum should be fired for this mess.

[dmarz45]

Some of these "insiders" (Lombardi) are so freaking desperate to break the story.

I guess they all want to be like Incarcerated Bob...

[Royce Parker]

I just read somewhere that the Saints are offering two 1st's and Drew Brees for Tebow.

[The Dark Knight]

I have never cheered against the Jets until today. But I am doing it for their own good. Haha.

[Banjo]

Dammit Tanny, fight for Tebow!!! We need this. New York needs this. THE WORLD needs this

[laxin]

Dammit Tanny, fight for Tebow!!! We need this. New York needs this. THE WORLD needs this

We should totally just give them our 1st round pick and pay the 5 mil. We need him.

[The Future]

I just read somewhere that the Saints are offering two 1st's and Drew Brees for Tebow.

Not enough in return for the Broncos.

[laxin]

I have never cheered against the Jets until today. But I am doing it for their own good. Haha.

So true hahaha, its kind of sad...

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

Today I have lost faith in this entire Jets regime, from Tanny to Woody to Ryan to Soprano. I have lost all respect for their football intelligence and their common sense. They are all feeding us a line of BS when they say they want to fix the locker room and that they support Sanchez. I was a supporter of this group until today, but now I question their ability to build a winning team. When holes on the team are to filled and a good draft is needed, this group is out chasing the likes of Favre, Asomaugh, Tebow, all to grab headlines and sell PSLs and jerseys. Color me jaded.

[davecrazy]

We all remember what happened the last time a religious zealot took down the jets in new York city.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

I just read somewhere that the Saints are offering two 1st's and Drew Brees for Tebow.

If they throw in 5 million its a done deal!

[jilozzo]

Yes this is quite the cluster fuck. Agree the jets will have a giant western omelette on their face.....
One thing is clear, trader mike and woody are out of control and anything goes.

Me thinks he is a jag by 8:30. But the scar will last a long time from this nonsense.

[SufferingJetsFan]

We all remember what happened the last time a religious zealot took down the jets in new York city.

Still too soon.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

We all remember what happened the last time a religious zealot took down the jets in new York city.

That post is incredibly inappropriate.

[BleedGreen4ever]

Call him whatever you want. But wherever he goes, the second the starter struggles, fans will start chanting for Tebow, and before long, all those guys with Tebow jerseys (instead of Sanchez, Bradford, and Gabbert jerseys), will force the respective coach of the that team to make Tebow the starting qb.

Im pretty sure rex ryan has thick enough skin to run the team the way he wants.... the media or fans will not influence his desicion making

[GQMartin]

This joke should have waited for April 1st.

[ace_o_spades]

Today I have lost faith in this entire Jets regime, from Tanny to Woody to Ryan to Soprano. I have lost all respect for their football intelligence and their common sense. They are all feeding us a line of BS when they say they want to fix the locker room and that they support Sanchez. I was a supporter of this group until today, but now I question their ability to build a winning team. When holes on the team are to filled and a good draft is needed, this group is out chasing the likes of Favre, Asomaugh, Tebow, all to grab headlines and sell PSLs and jerseys. Color me jaded.

Agreed 100%

[dmarz45]

We all should've seen this coming. Getting Tebow for $1M a season seemed too good to be true...

[laxin]

We all remember what happened the last time a religious zealot took down the jets in new York city.

Wow...

Thats just terrible man. Thatll never be a joking manner

[101_GANG_GREEN_101]

Today I have lost faith in this entire Jets regime, from Tanny to Woody to Ryan to Soprano. I have lost all respect for their football intelligence and their common sense. They are all feeding us a line of BS when they say they want to fix the locker room and that they support Sanchez. I was a supporter of this group until today, but now I question their ability to build a winning team. When holes on the team are to filled and a good draft is needed, this group is out chasing the likes of Favre, Asomaugh, Tebow, all to grab headlines and sell PSLs and jerseys. Color me jaded.

that's exactly my thoughts and feelings at this moment

I was drinking the juice too tho

[rockyusmc2003]

We all remember what happened the last time a religious zealot took down the jets in new York city.
Are you fucking serious?

[xmscott]

I never expect him to come in and play QB so im ok with all of this.

[laxin]

I never expect him to come in and play QB so im ok with all of this.

You may not, but week two after an interception, 50% of this impulsive fan base will.

[Royal Tee]

Today I have lost faith in this entire Jets regime, from Tanny to Woody to Ryan to Soprano. I have lost all respect for their football intelligence and their common sense. They are all feeding us a line of BS when they say they want to fix the locker room and that they support Sanchez. I was a supporter of this group until today, but now I question their ability to build a winning team. When holes on the team are to filled and a good draft is needed, this group is out chasing the likes of Favre, Asomaugh, Tebow, all to grab headlines and sell PSLs and jerseys. Color me jaded.

Do you know how much shit I have taken for saying this from the git?

Calling Woody a cheap fuk who cares about nothing but the bottom line.
and I get "oh it's ok he's a business man"
Really?
Fuk that.

We had the chance to have our own stadium in NYC or In Jersey but he nixed that and goes 50% w/ the other team
Then it's all about PSL's and Fuks the long term JETS fans on their senority.
SELL SELL SELL... that's all this fuk has done since day 1....It's sickening

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

Im pretty sure rex ryan has thick enough skin to run the team the way he wants.... the media or fans will not influence his desicion making

You don't get it. The desire to fuel the media and fans has already influenced the decision making.

And I just heard Schlereth on ESPN and he said that the pressure put on the CS in Denver was enormous from day one of training camp. He said on the first day of camp, when Orton came out of the locker room after the first practice, the fans booed him mercilessly. Then when Tebow came out, the fans went nuts. Then it only got worse. There is no way another QB can succeed and a locker room can unify under those circumstances. This is a colossal screw up by the Jets and I only hope that it is temporary because the contract snafu.

Then its back to repairing the locker room, again. This is getting old. I want a real coach, a real GM, and an owner that wants to win rather than grab headlines and sell expensive seats in a stadium that was built to attract millionaires. Instead we have an owner who like Steinbrenner circa 1985.

[Jets FTW!!]

I still don't understand why everyone is freaking out. Everybody thinks it's the end of the world or something. I like the trade( if we don't have to pay the $5 mil of course). Wild Cat comes back and with the best person to run it. He is also a leader. Maybe he can help Sanchez grow some balls. Tebow is a team first guy and will do anything to help his team win. Stop freaking out people...it is not bad...far from it actually.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

Do you know how much shit I have taken for saying this from the git?

Calling Woody a cheap fuk who cares about nothing but the bottom line.
and I get "oh it's ok he's a business man"
Really?
Fuk that.

We had the chance to have our own stadium in NYC or In Jersey but he nixed that and goes 50% w/ the other team
Then it's all about PSL's and Fuks the long term JETS fans on their senority.
SELL SELL SELL... that's all this fuk has done since day 1....It's sickening


None of this has anything to do with the location of the stadium. NYC turned the Jets down. Going 50% with the Giants was the only option he had other than being a tenant again. The stadium location issue is a red herring. Everything else is true.

[SufferingJetsFan]

It's weird that it took a trade that may or may not even happen to put a dent in the fans faith in the people running the Jets organization.

Not everybody, but people that have been very faithful, loyal and positive on here. A lot of the Sunshiners even seem to have doubts today.

Weird, weird day.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

I still don't understand why everyone is freaking out. Everybody thinks it's the end of the world or something. I like the trade( if we don't have to pay the $5 mil of course). Wild Cat comes back and with the best person to run it. He is also a leader. Maybe he can help Sanchez grow some balls. Tebow is a team first guy and will do anything to help his team win. Stop freaking out people...it is not bad...far from it actually.

Something is wrong when 2/3 of the fan base if freaking out. Something is wrong when a fan like me, who has rooted for this team since 1965 and had season tickets for 32 years is ready to give up my seats because of this horrendous awful move. I want to watch a winning football team, not Barnum & Baileys

[SufferingJetsFan]

People seem hung up on running the Wildcat too. The Wildcat, for the most part, has been figured out. What teams successfully ran the WC last year? Tebow didn't run the WC.

[laxin]

You don't get it. The desire to fuel the media and fans has already influenced the decision making.

And I just heard Schlereth on ESPN and he said that the pressure put on the CS in Denver was enormous from day one of training camp. He said on the first day of camp, when Orton came out of the locker room after the first practice, the fans booed him mercilessly. Then when Tebow came out, the fans went nuts. Then it only got worse. There is no way another QB can succeed and a locker room can unify under those circumstances. This is a colossal screw up by the Jets and I only hope that it is temporary because the contract snafu.

Then its back to repairing the locker room, again. This is getting old. I want a real coach, a real GM, and an owner that wants to win rather than grab headlines and sell expensive seats in a stadium that was built to attract millionaires. Instead we have an owner who like Steinbrenner circa 1985.

I saw Schlereth on ESPN earlier today too, and what he said was great. It is pretty much why every Jets fan and anybody in the Jets organization should be against this move.

[#28Martin]

They're an embarrassment... They're gonna let Jacksonville swoop in and steal him... Joke organization. And don't think Good Guy Tanny didn't know about that clause.... Probably tried to pull a fast one.

[Cakes]

We all remember what happened the last time a religious zealot took down the jets in new York city.

Hopefully this guy is banned for life. This is at least the third disgustingly inappropriate comment from him. The others involved Cory Lidle and George Steinbrenner.

Three strikes and you're out.

[xxedge72x]

Something is wrong when 2/3 of the fan base if freaking out. Something is wrong when a fan like me, who has rooted for this team since 1965 and had season tickets for 32 years is ready to give up my seats because of this horrendous awful move. I want to watch a winning football team, not Barnum & Baileys

Please explain what is different about the Jets spending a 4th round pick on Brad Smith and the Jets spending a 4th round pick plus sliding down from a 6 to a 7 on Tebow?

The hate isn't about the football player. It's about the man.

[jonnyd]

They're an embarrassment... They're gonna let Jacksonville swoop in and steal him... Joke organization. And don't think Good Guy Tanny didn't know about that clause.... Probably tried to pull a fast one.

Tanny was in no position to "pull a fast one". UNless he was trying to pull a fast one on Woody when he told him later that he hadda buck up 5 mil

[Royal Tee]

None of this has anything to do with the location of the stadium. NYC turned the Jets down. Going 50% with the Giants was the only option he had other than being a tenant again. The stadium location issue is a red herring. Everything else is true.Actually it isn't.

The Politicians (Silver) only shot down the WSS project. While everyone else approved it.
Also, NYC offered Flushing and it was rejected by Woody which again already had approval.

He wanted the Manhattan boys club $$$ again because of greed.

But either way you call it, the man is only driven by money and has absolutely ZERO interest in what the fans want.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

They're an embarrassment... They're gonna let Jacksonville swoop in and steal him... Joke organization. And don't think Good Guy Tanny didn't know about that clause.... Probably tried to pull a fast one.

Even when you are right about somebody, it is for all the wrong reasons. Blaming Tanny for letting Jacksonville "swoop" in and take Tebow and claiming Tanny knew about the clause is a ridiculous statement. If you like the trade, then it is disingenuous to knock Tanny at this point.

[MarkyMark]

Please explain what is different about the Jets spending a 4th round pick on Brad Smith and the Jets spending a 4th round pick plus sliding down from a 6 to a 7 on Tebow?

The hate isn't about the football player. It's about the man.

Smith was also a kick returner and made special teams plays in addition to catching the ball. He was a jack of all trades player. Can Tebow duplicate all those things? Did anyone ever think Brad Smith would unseat Sanchez for QB? Did fans ever call for Smith to QB when Sanchez threw a pick?

[laxin]

Please explain what is different about the Jets spending a 4th round pick on Brad Smith and the Jets spending a 4th round pick plus sliding down from a 6 to a 7 on Tebow?

The hate isn't about the football player. It's about the man.

Its about what this organization stands for and what it creates in terms of the circus that revolves around this organization.

In football terms, this move makes sense.... But realistically, its fucking retarded.

[Cakes]

Something is wrong when 2/3 of the fan base if freaking out. Something is wrong when a fan like me, who has rooted for this team since 1965 and had season tickets for 32 years is ready to give up my seats because of this horrendous awful move. I want to watch a winning football team, not Barnum & Baileys

Fuck the fanbase. More than two thirds of Jets fans on this board were all for the drafting of gladys Gholston.

[101_GANG_GREEN_101]

You don't get it. The desire to fuel the media and fans has already influenced the decision making.

And I just heard Schlereth on ESPN and he said that the pressure put on the CS in Denver was enormous from day one of training camp. He said on the first day of camp, when Orton came out of the locker room after the first practice, the fans booed him mercilessly. Then when Tebow came out, the fans went nuts. Then it only got worse. There is no way another QB can succeed and a locker room can unify under those circumstances. This is a colossal screw up by the Jets and I only hope that it is temporary because the contract snafu.

Then its back to repairing the locker room, again. This is getting old. I want a real coach, a real GM, and an owner that wants to win rather than grab headlines and sell expensive seats in a stadium that was built to attract millionaires. Instead we have an owner who like Steinbrenner circa 1985.

Kyle Orton alienated himself from the fans if you remember, that's why they booed him

[Smog]

Nobody hates Tebow. They just think he sucks. And he's exactly wrong for the Jets, who just handed out a huge extension to their starting QB because they were worried about having hurt his feelings by inquiring on Manning. You do that and THEN you bring in Tebow? What are they smoking?

[The Dark Knight]

Fuck the fanbase. More than two thirds of Jets fans on this board were all for the drafting of gladys Gholston.

Difference is fans have watched Tebow play NFL games.

[SufferingJetsFan]

Smith was also a kick returner and made special teams plays in addition to catching the ball. He was a jack of all trades player. Can Tebow duplicate all those things? Did anyone ever think Brad Smith would unseat Sanchez for QB? Did fans ever call for Smith to QB when Sanchez threw a pick?

^^^^^^
This

Smith was a damn good special teams player.

[Docny1975]

Wow 97 pages in a few hours. I thought this was gonna be nuts but not like this.

Only thing I can say so far about this potential/completed trade who knows at this point is that at least it wasn't something higher then what it was. I'll see what happens fuck it its not like we've won anything in 42 years whats the worst that can happen at this point.

I hate tebowmania and what it brings but lets see where the dice lay at the end of it.

[sassquash]

Please explain what is different about the Jets spending a 4th round pick on Brad Smith and the Jets spending a 4th round pick plus sliding down from a 6 to a 7 on Tebow?

The hate isn't about the football player. It's about the man.


Smith could run with the ball, throw the ball, catch the ball, and return kickoffs.

Comparison is moot.

Plus Smith didn't come with a media circus sideshow.

[#28Martin]

Even when you are right about somebody, it is for all the wrong reasons. Blaming Tanny for letting Jacksonville "swoop" in and take Tebow and claiming Tanny knew about the clause is a ridiculous statement. If you like the trade, then it is disingenuous to knock Tanny at this point.

You can't announce a trade, get your fan base all either into it or not into it, and then somehow it doesn't happen.

[xxedge72x]

Smith was also a kick returner and made special teams plays in addition to catching the ball. He was a jack of all trades player. Can Tebow duplicate all those things? Did anyone ever think Brad Smith would unseat Sanchez for QB? Did fans ever call for Smith to QB when Sanchez threw a pick?

No Tebow can't do those things. I didn't think he would. I think what he will do is run the Wildcat better than Smith ever could - provide a passing threat out of the wildcat, and the wildcat will be a more integral part of the offense with Tebow and Sparano.

Also, I don't think fans should call for Tebow when Sanchez throws a pick. One Sanchez IS the future of this team and two Tebow shouldn't even be able to crack 3 on the depth chart much less starter.

The frenzy is about Tim Tebow the celebrity not Tim Tebow the football player.

EDIT: To clarify, Smith was drafted to be a role player. Tebow will also be a role player. Hence the 4th round value.

[jonnyd]

It's weird that it took a trade that may or may not even happen to put a dent in the fans faith in the people running the Jets organization.

Not everybody, but people that have been very faithful, loyal and positive on here. A lot of the Sunshiners even seem to have doubts today.

Weird, weird day.

Great point. NOW some people are losing faith in Tanny? Now, people are losing faith in the fat fuck retard? hahahaha great, great point.

[Jets FTW!!]

Something is wrong when 2/3 of the fan base if freaking out. Something is wrong when a fan like me, who has rooted for this team since 1965 and had season tickets for 32 years is ready to give up my seats because of this horrendous awful move. I want to watch a winning football team, not Barnum & Baileys

When hasn't our fan base freaked out before? Our fan base overreacts all the time(rightfully so though considering it's been like 43 years and we want to see a championship), but I mean cmon this isn't like drafting kyle brady of warren sapp. We are getting him for pretty much nothing. Everyone wanted a qb competition too before all of this to push sanchez. Now, you got one. And tebow probably won't be the starter but he will be a hell of a wild cat qb. I still see no cons to this except the media going nuts. I think everyone is coming down with SOJ syndrome again. Relax people.

[JetsFan]

Rotoworld...

Lombardi now claims. "I am hearing the Jags are close to making this happen." If so, the Jaguars will have swooped in to acquire Tebow from the Jets' clutches. The Jets thought their midday trade of Tebow was official, before reading the details of his contract and reneging on the initial deal.

More egg on Jets face

[Dirty6Sanchez]

I had a good friend tell me today that the Jets are now his most hated NFL Franchise not in his team's division (Bucs fan). I'm guessing this is the sentiment of most non-Jets fans. Must be nice to be able to root for a team without getting a reviled reaction from everyone else.:rolleyes:

Oh well, haters gonna hate

[laxin]

No Tebow can't do those things. I didn't think he would. I think what he will do is run the Wildcat better than Smith ever could - provide a passing threat out of the wildcat, and the wildcat will be a more integral part of the offense with Tebow and Sparano.

Also, I don't think fans should call for Tebow when Sanchez throws a pick. One Sanchez IS the future of this team and two Tebow shouldn't even be able to crack 3 on the depth chart much less starter.

The frenzy is about Tim Tebow the celebrity not Tim Tebow the football player.

EDIT: To clarify, Smith was drafted to be a role player. Tebow will also be a role player. Hence the 4th round value.

Thats what you think and is logical, but thats not gonna stop impulsive fans from chanting Tebows name after one hiccup on offense.

[Mr. Green Pants]

Hopefully this guy is banned for life. This is at least the third disgustingly inappropriate comment from him. The others involved Cory Lidle and George Steinbrenner.

Three strikes and you're out.Plus, he stole this latest joke from Fark. Dude can't even be an original troll.

[jilozzo]

This is a media frenzy. Unreal. Geez bring back kotite, at least things were less stressful

[xxedge72x]

Thats what you think and is logical, but thats not gonna stop impulsive fans from chanting Tebows name after one hiccup on offense.

So then Tebow isn't the joke but the fans that are out their chanting his name.

[johnny]

Please explain what is different about the Jets spending a 4th round pick on Brad Smith and the Jets spending a 4th round pick plus sliding down from a 6 to a 7 on Tebow?

The hate isn't about the football player. It's about the man.

1) If you don't know the difference between Tebow and Brad Smith you've been living in a vacuum the last 2 years.

2) The fourth round pick could very well be a starting safety, blocking TE, WR, OLmen which is much more valuable than a "niche" QB.

3) If Tebow is not a "niche" QB then you just wasted $20M+ on Sanchez over the next two years.

[Bill Belichdouche]

Have the jets removed the facebook posts and tebow tweets about the deal being official?

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

Please explain what is different about the Jets spending a 4th round pick on Brad Smith and the Jets spending a 4th round pick plus sliding down from a 6 to a 7 on Tebow?

The hate isn't about the football player. It's about the man.

The difference between Smith and Tebow is like night and day.

Smith plays and exceeds as a kick returner and in kick coverage on special teams. Tebow does not.

Smith played WR. Tebow does not.

Nobody would ever call for Smith to start at QB over Sanchez. The push for Tebow to start over Sanchez will start the minute he enters the facility as a Jet.

Smith doesn't come with a fanatical following of people. Tebow is a traveling side show.

Smith doesn't divide the fan base or the locker room. Tebow would instantly do both.

With Smith you get a football player who can play QB 2-3 times a game. With Tebow you get a player who wants to be an NFL QB, but does not have the skill set to play that position.


Let me put it to you this way. Why is this thread 100 pages long? If the Jets reacquired Brad Smith, you would have a couple of happy pages. Instead with Tebow you have outright panic, outrage, and disgust. That is the difference.

You can't ignore that when you get Tebow, you get Tebow the player and Tebow the man and all that Tebow the man brings with him. And the crap that he brings with him would be disastrous for a fragile Jets locker room.

[joolander]

it looks like we wont get him. thank god =)

[laxin]

So then Tebow isn't the joke but the fans that are out their chanting his name.

Pretty much, like Ive said, from a football standpoint, this move would make sense by having him run the wildcat, but in actuality, this is a terrible move because the cancer he will indirectly cause extremely outweighs the football aspect.

The impulsive fans, the media trying to get any possible story they and the management trying to sell seats at all costs are what is the joke.

[johnny]

I had a good friend tell me today that the Jets are now his most hated NFL Franchise not in his team's division (Bucs fan). I'm guessing this is the sentiment of most non-Jets fans. Must be nice to be able to root for a team without getting a reviled reaction from everyone else.:rolleyes:

Oh well, haters gonna hate

I really don't what there is to hate (if I were a fan of another team). The Jets haven't won enough to hate and they provide much entertainment to the rest of the NFL.

[MarkyMark]

Rotoworld...

Lombardi now claims. "I am hearing the Jags are close to making this happen." If so, the Jaguars will have swooped in to acquire Tebow from the Jets' clutches. The Jets thought their midday trade of Tebow was official, before reading the details of his contract and reneging on the initial deal.

More egg on Jets face

It is, but I don't care. I would rather the franchise have egg on their face (let's face it, we've had it for quite some time with some of the shenanigans that have gone on here) than complete the Tebow trade.

[SufferingJetsFan]

Can't believe the Jets have spent an entire day locked in what I can only imagine to be legal and contractual jargon trying to seal the deal on a trade they never should have pursued in the first place, only to more than likely not get their man anyway.

[JetBlue]

Nobody hates Tebow. They just think he sucks.

bullshit, people hate Tebow, and they are the same people who did so in college when he didn't suck. so how can you even attempt to claim it has to do with his performance and not him?

[laxin]

The difference between Smith and Tebow is like night and day.

Smith plays and exceeds as a kick returner and in kick coverage on special teams. Tebow does not.

Smith played WR. Tebow does not.

Nobody would ever call for Smith to start at QB over Sanchez. The push for Tebow to start over Sanchez will start the minute he enters the facility as a Jet.

Smith doesn't come with a fanatical following of people. Tebow is a traveling side show.

Smith doesn't divide the fan base or the locker room. Tebow would instantly do both.

With Smith you get a football player who can play QB 2-3 times a game. With Tebow you get a player who wants to be an NFL QB, but does not have the skill set to play that position.


Let me put it to you this way. Why is this thread 100 pages long? If the Jets reacquired Brad Smith, you would have a couple of happy pages. Instead with Tebow you have outright panic, outrage, and disgust. That is the difference.

You can't ignore that when you get Tebow, you get Tebow the player and Tebow the man and all that Tebow the man brings with him. And the crap that he brings with him would be disastrous for a fragile Jets locker room.

Perfectly said JWWS, this pretty much sums up this whole thread... Not much needs to be said after this.

[Royal Tee]

and allow me to add on more Woody greed.

The fact that paying him $$$ is the stickler just lends to the theory that the Greed fuk is the one who called this shot.

-Woody: We need more PSL's, you know what? Get me Tebow!
-Tanny: Really think that's a....
-Woody: Whatever you need to do, GET ME TEBOW!! & Use Draft Picks.
-Tanny: OK, It'll cost a few picks...
-Woody: I don't care, that's even better, just make it happen!

~Few hrs. later:

-Tanny: We just traded for Tebow, He's Going to cost....
-Woody:YES! YES! YES!!! START THE PRESSES AND PRINT THE JERSEYS!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOTo view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.!!!
-Tanny: Before you do I need you to approve.....
-Woody: YES!!! We are going to Run this town and SELL SELL SELL!!!
-Tanny: WOODY, WE OWE THEM $5 Mil!!!!
-Woody: WE SSSSHWHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTT!!????
-Tanny: You said by any....
-Woody: BUT NOT MONEY !!! PICKS!!! WITH PICKS I HAVE LESS PEOPLE TO PAY! What Where You Thinking Boy!???
-Tanny: I didn't send the papers in yet
-Woody: Cancel muther Fucker Cancel!!!
-Tanny: I'm On it!... *riiiiing* Hey guys.. guess what? We no want da babie jeezus

[JetsFan]

So who will be the scapegoat, can't blame the Broncos for being smart when writing a contract.

Someone dropped the ball by not reading the print, before allowing the tweet.

[SackExchange69]

Its a good thing that baby Jesus is a Jags fan.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

No Tebow can't do those things. I didn't think he would. I think what he will do is run the Wildcat better than Smith ever could - provide a passing threat out of the wildcat, and the wildcat will be a more integral part of the offense with Tebow and Sparano.

Also, I don't think fans should call for Tebow when Sanchez throws a pick. One Sanchez IS the future of this team and two Tebow shouldn't even be able to crack 3 on the depth chart much less starter.

The frenzy is about Tim Tebow the celebrity not Tim Tebow the football player.

EDIT: To clarify, Smith was drafted to be a role player. Tebow will also be a role player. Hence the 4th round value.

You are completely missing the point. The fans will call for Tebow the minute he walks into the Jets facility and the calls will only get louder as the season goes on unless Sanchez becomes Drew Brees, and even that may not stop the Tebow maniacs from wanting him to play. You can say all you want that the Jets support Sanchez as the QB and they will ignore the pleas for Tebow, but you can't ignore the negative impact all of this will have on the team.

[xxedge72x]

The difference between Smith and Tebow is like night and day.

Smith plays and exceeds as a kick returner and in kick coverage on special teams. Tebow does not.

Smith played WR. Tebow does not.

Nobody would ever call for Smith to start at QB over Sanchez. The push for Tebow to start over Sanchez will start the minute he enters the facility as a Jet.

Smith doesn't come with a fanatical following of people. Tebow is a traveling side show.

Smith doesn't divide the fan base or the locker room. Tebow would instantly do both.

With Smith you get a football player who can play QB 2-3 times a game. With Tebow you get a player who wants to be an NFL QB, but does not have the skill set to play that position.


Let me put it to you this way. Why is this thread 100 pages long? If the Jets reacquired Brad Smith, you would have a couple of happy pages. Instead with Tebow you have outright panic, outrage, and disgust. That is the difference.

You can't ignore that when you get Tebow, you get Tebow the player and Tebow the man and all that Tebow the man brings with him. And the crap that he brings with him would be disastrous for a fragile Jets locker room.

By referencing Brad Smith I'm not making a literal comparison to Brad Smith the player vs Tim Tebow the player but rather the value being acquired from utilizing a fourth round pick on those players.

Brad Smith was drafted with a fourth round pick not to fill any specific role but rather to be a good football player and fill any role they asked him to do. He did a great job of that and we ended up getting all those aspects out of him.

Tebow won't return kicks or play receiver however he will provide a passing threat out of the wildcat that Brad Smith could not provide. This will back defenses off the line of scrimmage when the Jets run the wildcat. One of the reasons Brian Schottenheimer is no longer with the Jets is because Rex wants the offense to run the wildcat and the fact that they are pursuing Tebow is a punctuation mark on the fact of how important that particular formation is going to be to the Jets offense.

The point is the value is extremely similar for what the Jets are trying to give up. The Jets didn't break the bank for Tebow. Yet the fans are screaming that the Jets just plunged themselves into the mouth of an active volcano.

So what is the real issue? If the issue is not football value then it is about the celebrity that Tim Tebow is and the fact that he generates such a strong response because of his status.

But what is actually important? Improving the football team? Or improving the fans satisfaction with the paper roster?

Personally I see a move that improves the football team based on what the Rex Ryan Jets want to accomplish. I also see a reaction to this move based on the emotional reaction to the person and not to the football value. The Jets spent very little more to acquire Tim Tebow than they did Brad Smith and his value in winning football games should be just as great.

[SanityRemoved]

This snag really shouldn't be a surprise after last year's Denver - Miami debacle involving Kyle Orton. That too seemed like a deal ready for ink and then Denver wanted more.

Lombardi stated that normally clauses involving advances are waived. If the Jets pay it this time then every team will be expecting the same when trading to the Jets in the future. Not a good precedence to set.

[Jerseyboyisback]

and allow me to add on more Woody greed.

The fact that paying him $$$ is the stickler just lends to the theory that the Greed fuk is the one who called this shot.

-Woody: We need more PSL's, you know what? Get me Tebow!
-Tanny: Really think that's a....
-Woody: Whatever you need to do, GET ME TEBOW!! & Use Draft Picks.
-Tanny: OK, It'll cost a few picks...
-Woody: I don't care, that's even better, just make it happen!

~Few hrs. later:

-Tanny: We just traded for Tebow, He's Going to cost....
-Woody:YES! YES! YES!!! START THE PRESSES AND PRINT THE JERSEYS!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOTo view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.!!!
-Tanny: Before you do I need you to approve.....
-Woody: YES!!! We are going to Run this town and SELL SELL SELL!!!
-Tanny: WOODY, WE OWE THEM $5 Mil!!!!
-Woody: WE SSSSHWHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTT!!????
-Tanny: You said by any....
-Woody: BUT NOT MONEY !!! PICKS!!! WITH PICKS I HAVE LESS PEOPLE TO PAY! What Where You Thinking Boy!???
-Tanny: I didn't send the papers in yet
-Woody: Cancel muther Fucker Cancel!!!
-Tanny: I'm On it!... *riiiiing* Hey guys.. guess what? We no want da babie jeezus

good shit very true

[SufferingJetsFan]

Good thing I'm working tonight. I have been completely unproductive all damn day following this nonsense on tv, radio and internet. FUCK YOU TEBOW and FUCK YOU JETS!!!!

[Royce Parker]

bullshit, people hate Tebow, and they are the same people who did so in college when he didn't suck. so how can you even attempt to claim it has to do with his performance and not him?

I hate Tebow but I'll root for him if he winds up in a Jets uniform.

[Bpk]

I wonder what Tony Sparano thinks. He's the one who's accountable for scoring points with this offense. He also had a front row seat for Tebow's miracle against Miami last year. He probably said he liked the kid (especially after being stuck with a lifeless fish like Chad Henne).

[NYJets17]

Do not believe he is a Jaguar until it is 100% official.

We are still very much in this shit.

[milo]

Do not believe he is a Jaguar until it is 100% official.

We are still very much in this shit.

Confirmation from Incarceratedbob or it never happened.

[flajetfan]

Smith was also a kick returner and made special teams plays in addition to catching the ball. He was a jack of all trades player. Can Tebow duplicate all those things?probably notspecials teams.maybe able to catch Did anyone ever think Brad Smith would unseat Sanchez for QB?think it ?no probably not Did fans ever call for Smith to QB when Sanchez threw a pick?um yes.fans on here have actually called for this

i was excited about this from a purely football p.o.v.
the kid is a winner and team player who would have helped this team in some form.he is also as good as anything we would have got in the 4th.

the idea of having 2 years to develope either sanchez or tebow sounded like a good long range plan

but now no matter how it turns out tanny and co. look bad.

if the deal falls thru:
tebow supporters will be pissed adnd say they let another team swoop in
tebow detractors will say tanny fucked up the fuck up

if the deal works out:
tanny would have paid the 5mil. and that will be 2 much for a backup/wc qb

it is now a lose/lose i.m.o.

[Bpk]

I'm guessing the Bronco's are pushing their luck here to see if anyone will pay it. In the end, they will close a deal with someone willing to pay half, I bet. (is that allowed?)

[SackExchange69]

Do not believe he is a Jaguar until it is 100% official.

We are still very much in this shit.

Shhhh, cmon J'ville pay the $5 mil.

[AnyGivenSunday]

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Tim Tebow is being allowed to pick the team he wants to go to. He picks the trade. Denver or Jacksonville. His call."

Assuming he means Jets or Jacksonville...looks like those against should be happy

[xxedge72x]

You are completely missing the point. The fans will call for Tebow the minute he walks into the Jets facility and the calls will only get louder as the season goes on unless Sanchez becomes Drew Brees, and even that may not stop the Tebow maniacs from wanting him to play. You can say all you want that the Jets support Sanchez as the QB and they will ignore the pleas for Tebow, but you can't ignore the negative impact all of this will have on the team.

I believe the fan impact is extremely overrated.

If Sanchez plays like shit this September, what the hell is the difference if the fans are chanting Tebow with Tebow on the team or if they're simply booing the shit out of Sanchez when Tebow isn't on the team?

[Bpk]

Has Sanchez said/tweeted anything? Has Jesus?

[laxin]

Per Schefty:

Tim Tebow is being allowed to pick the team he wants to go to. He picks the trade. Jets or Jacksonville.

PLEASE TO GOD PICK JAX!!!!!!!

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

Schefter is reporting that Tebow gets to pick the team he is traded to - Jets or Jags. Come on Timmy - go home to Jacksonville.

[rico college]

Please let this end, Jesus hates the JETS too.

[casman02]

Come on Timmy, be smart!

[JetsFan]

I want us to get Tebow, just so I don't have to hear the shit at work tomorrow.

Everyone laughing at the Jets.

[MarkyMark]

Per Schefty:

Tim Tebow is being allowed to pick the team he wants to go to. He picks the trade. Jets or Jacksonville.

PLEASE TO GOD PICK JAX!!!!!!!

Wow.................

[milo]

Come on Timmy - go home to Jacksonville.

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[MParty7441]

If Tebow can pick he will obviously pick the Jags.

[laxin]

He could have a shot at being a starter at Jax or he can come here and be a wildcat QB... How tough of a choice is that???

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

I want us to get Tebow, just so I don't have to hear the shit at work tomorrow.

Everyone laughing at the Jets.

I'd rather have them laugh for a day than laugh for three years watching this guy try to complete a pass.

[Bpk]

Oh man, he will be EXPECTED by his Florida fans to pick Jax! If he doesn't, his Florida faithful may take it as him turning his back on them. Dang.

Tough spot to put Tim in.

I think he picks New York. At least the GM WANTS him here, the Jax GM hates him, by all accounts, and the owner is the one who wants him. That could mean problems with getting playing opportunities/practice snaps in Jax.

[k311]

If this is true, and I can't imagine it is, then Tebow will pick Jacksonville. That's a no brainer.

[Ben Had]

This is too friggin good...

[Bpk]

Maybe Sanchez could mentor him.

Joking. Funny thing is, Tebow's value would be higher here is Sanchez sucked at the goalline, but I think Sanchez does a good job on QB sneaks and bootlegs at the goaline.

[laxin]

You think Tebow will have “the decision” like lebron... I mean Im sure Woody would be all for it, it would sell more tickets!

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Per Schefty:

Tim Tebow is being allowed to pick the team he wants to go to. He picks the trade. Jets or Jacksonville.

PLEASE TO GOD PICK JAX!!!!!!!
YES. He isn't picking the Jets, no way!

[xxedge72x]

If he gets a choice he's a Jaguar.

[jilozzo]

Schefter is reporting that Tebow gets to pick the team he is traded to - Jets or Jags. Come on Timmy - go home to Jacksonville.

Yes he'll pull a r. White and tell us that god told him to choose jax.

[JetsFan]

If he has choice of the team, may as well close up the thread. Jets will be out.

[grkmanga31]

if Tebow has the choice between us and jax he's going to end up there. He has almost no opportunity to start here and is looking at a pretty limited role. In jax he has a legitimate shot at starting.

[MarkyMark]

This is an absolute blessing. Why the hell would he ever choose us over Jax. He actually has a chance to start in Jax, playing in front of his home crowd from his Gator days. This is a no brainer.

[Bpk]

GM in Jax does NOT want Tebow and owner is pressuring him. I wouldn't choose that situation. Between Gabbert, henne and Tebow, the GM could lean on the coaches to minimize Tim's practice reps and bury him on the depth chart.

[Dirty6Sanchez]

Schefter is reporting that Tebow gets to pick the team he is traded to - Jets or Jags. Come on Timmy - go home to Jacksonville.

Go home baby Jesus, go home.

[johnny]

The difference between Smith and Tebow is like night and day.

Smith plays and exceeds as a kick returner and in kick coverage on special teams. Tebow does not.

Smith played WR. Tebow does not.

Nobody would ever call for Smith to start at QB over Sanchez. The push for Tebow to start over Sanchez will start the minute he enters the facility as a Jet.

Smith doesn't come with a fanatical following of people. Tebow is a traveling side show.

Smith doesn't divide the fan base or the locker room. Tebow would instantly do both.

With Smith you get a football player who can play QB 2-3 times a game. With Tebow you get a player who wants to be an NFL QB, but does not have the skill set to play that position.


Let me put it to you this way. Why is this thread 100 pages long? If the Jets reacquired Brad Smith, you would have a couple of happy pages. Instead with Tebow you have outright panic, outrage, and disgust. That is the difference.

You can't ignore that when you get Tebow, you get Tebow the player and Tebow the man and all that Tebow the man brings with him. And the crap that he brings with him would be disastrous for a fragile Jets locker room.

Beautifully put. How can people not see the downsides of this trade? For everything to go well with this trade and to make it worth it for the Jets, you have to think that:

1) Sanchez will have a 63% completion percentage, 28 TD's passing, 6 TD's running,