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[legler82]

This is Jeremy Lin's fault!

[ShadeTree#55]

Frost was not a good one, so what is your point?
Tebow isn't either.

[NJJ_Jersey_Jets]

If it weren't for the media shitfest, I would totally endorse this move. Tebow would be a nice fit to a Tony Sparano system. And people really are bitching about giving up a 4th round pick? Look at the shit other teams had to give up for a QB! (RGIII and Palmer!)

[Barcs]

^Tebow is hardly as good as those guys. He had a terrible year, much worse than Sanchez.

I'm seriously disappointed. I see this as a desperate attempt to sell PSLs and nothing more. We don't need Tebow, we DO need draft picks. WTF were they fucking thinking??? We have Kerley AND Mcknight who are capable of running WC offense. Worst move by Tanny in this off season by far. Trading away our future for someone we don't even come close to need. Go sit in the corner you sell out.

[Johnny "Lam" Jones]

So does he get a chance to compete to start?
LOL No.

Lam

[nyjets21]

Tim Tebow better head with Sanchez his next trip to Florida to see Pennington. I know he'll be our wild cat guy but I think we'll see him throw a lot of passes from that formation

[ShadeTree#55]

If it weren't for the media shitfest, I would totally endorse this move. Tebow would be a nice fit to a Tony Sparano system. And people really are bitching about giving up a 4th round pick? Look at the shit other teams had to give up for a QB! (RGIII and Palmer!)

4th and a 6th for a top heavy team with real depth issues due to Tannys wack ass drafts the last couple of years.

[MURDR]

Actual question:

Has any team ever been successful with 2 QBs that are fairly equal (or close to it) in skill working as a "team" and playing off each other?
I can't tell if you're serious or not. If so, you're an idiot if you think Tebow is as skilled as Sanchez...Tebow is a HORRIBLE QB, but a good Wildcat QB.

[xxedge72x]

I like how people are comparing him to Brad Smith like half of the stadium was ever calling for Brad Smith to be a full time QB like it will be with Tebow.

This is the argument that drives me crazy. Who cares what the fans think? Seriously. The fans can only affect the team in one way: don't buy tickets. Guess what - that's not going to happen.

[davecrazy]

Location of the first START TEBOW billboard?

Time Square?
Outside of Jets training camp?
On the turnpike near the medowlands?

I'm going with the turnpike.

[Cman55]

This is Jeremy Lin's fault!

Funny, but there might be a ring of truth to this. Linsanity boosted the Knick's stature in the city AND their bottom line. Woody, while not quite in Dolan's class, still is a owner obsessed with perception and desperately wanted the Jets back in the news. He's hoping Tebow does for the Jets what Lin did for the Knicks. At the very least, he'll generate media buzz and when it comes to the Jets, you can never have enough media buzz.

[wildaces]

Cromartie is a disgrace and an embarrassment.

I guess if Tebow had fathered 15 kids with 12 different women, and didn't pay his child support (and refused to tackle on the field), he'd be considered a hero.

Some of you haters would treat Tebow with more respect if he was a serial killer, rapist, or child molester; but because he's a Christian, you despise him.

Ludicrous observation

[davecrazy]

This is the argument that drives me crazy. Who cares what the fans think? Seriously. The fans can only affect the team in one way: don't buy tickets. Guess what - that's not going to happen.

Considering the Jets just brought Tebow in the sell Tickets, I think they might care what the fans who paid money to see Tebow play think.

[JerodMayoJackedMeUp!]

Gotta love ESPN...to a man (or woman) they are marching to the microphone to say why this is such a bad move by the Jets..of course most of them were saying yesterday that he should be traded to the Patriots...what does that say? Do they have no sense of shame at all?...lolIt says Tom Brady is a far better QB than Mark Sanchez is. Tebow either needs to be a starting QB or behind an elite QB secure in his standing who the Tebowmaniacs can't call for to be benched while he tries and learn/develop at the position

Having him as a wild cat type option behind someone like Sanchez is a disaster. The people thinking that's a reasonable option will find out just how psycho the Tebow fan base and hype is very shortly. It's just surprising you didn't notice it in Denver last year.

You've got a full blown QB controversy already. Polls on ESPN already calling for Tebow to start including in NY and NJ. Imagine the media after the first bad game by Sanchez. It's going to be a circus.

[xxedge72x]

It says Tom Brady is a far better QB than Mark Sanchez is. Tebow either needs to be a starting QB or behind an elite QB secure in his standing who the Tebowmaniacs can't call for to be benched.

Having him as a wild cat type option behind someone like Sanchez is a disaster. The people thinking that's a reasonable option will find out just how psycho the Tebow fan base and hype is very shortly. It's just surprising you didn't notice it in Denver last year.

You've got a full blown QB controversy already. Polls on ESPN already calling for Tebow to start including in NY and NJ. Imagine the media after the first bad game by Sanchez. It's going to be a circus.

Controversy amongst fans. Not amongst the New York Jets football team. Fan controversy = irrelevant.

[SufferingJetsFan]

SportsNation at ESPN has a poll regarding who should be the Jets starting QB in 2012. Tebow is ahead of Sanchez 51%-49%.

Amazing.

[dmarz45]

SportsNation at ESPN has a poll regarding who should be the Jets starting QB in 2012. Tebow is ahead of Sanchez 51%-49%.

Amazing.

Tebow is ALWAYS favored in the Sportsnation polls, so take it with a grain of salt. People just love him

[JdotGriff]

I want to throw up right now.

[davecrazy]

SportsNation at ESPN has a poll regarding who should be the Jets starting QB in 2012. Tebow is ahead of Sanchez 51%-49%.

Amazing.

Rex, as Mark struggled today did you give any consideration to going to Tim? - get ready for this x10000 all season long every game, hell every training camp practice.

[GreenGreek]

Actual question:

Has any team ever been successful with 2 QBs that are fairly equal (or close to it) in skill working as a "team" and playing off each other?

Steelers with Neil O'Donnell & Kordell Stewart. They made the SuperBowl together.

[SufferingJetsFan]

Rex, as Mark struggled today did you give any consideration to going to Tim? - get ready for this x10000 all season long every game, hell every training camp practice.

Oh yeah, you just know it. Rex is gonna lose his mind.

[xmscott]

Kris Jenkins threw up in his mouth when he heard about the deal

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[Ben Had]

Actual question:

Has any team ever been successful with 2 QBs that are fairly equal (or close to it) in skill working as a "team" and playing off each other?

You mean like having the most innacurate Righty Lefty combo of QBs in NFL history?

[Br4dw4y5ux]

With all due respect, your precious Steelers have gone down this same road a time or 2. Kordell Stewart ring a bell?

Tim Tebow makes Kordell Stewart look like Peyton Manning.

To wit: Stewarts first season as a starter he completed 53.6% of his passes for 21 TD's. It was pretty much all downhill from there but the completion percentages went up.

If Tim Tebow was even a moderately capable QB you could defend this move. He's not. He's a one-trick pony. He has been in the NFL for two seasons now and he has a 47.3% completion percentage. His career completion percentage is 8 points below Mark Sanchez who is considered an inaccurate passer. His percentage last season was 10 points below Sanchez who was still considered an inaccurate passer.

Tebow couldn't even complete 47% of his passes in a season in which the expectation was that the Broncos were going to run heavily. They only passed the ball 45% of the time and he still couldn't complete passes even with the box stacked heavily against them.

Tebow was sacked 33 times in a bit more than half of the passing attempts that Sanchez had. He would have had 60 sacks if he got the same 582 dropbacks that Sanchez had.

It's just a horrible move on the face of it and that doesn't even take into account the psycho-social elements involved in bringing another QB who started a game in the playoffs last year into what may well be a split locker room as it is. It doesn't even take into account the fact that the Jets have no way to resolve the problem if the locker room fractures again because they are heavily committed to Sanchez financially and for cap purposes over the next two seasons.

This is like the Titanic seeing the iceberg in the distance and setting course for it anyway.

[Tonetime320]

I can't believe they signed Tebow. Disgusting.

[RevisAndHarris]

Exactly what is the risk here? Here's are the possibilities:

1. We lose draft picks.

Very little risk. A no-brainer. We gave up a 4th and 6th (and gained a 7th). That's about the price we paid for Joe McKnight, currently a special-teams ace. You fill out role players around that area, you don't get stars and if you miss, that's totally normal. That's exactly what he will be, a role player in this offense, maybe getting 6-8 snaps a game, tops.

2. We mess up "chemistry".

Again, zero risk here since we're already near zero. The fact that Tebow has been loved by teammates since he was in high school on every stop of his journey should tell you this should be a net positive.

3. We get a media circus.

We've had a media circus here since the Bill Parcells days. Players that play here know this and the media attention's already turned up to 11. Very little risk.

4. We shake Mark's confidence.

This guy has played behind and ahead of some pretty good QB's at USC. That's nothing new. If it shakes his confidence, then he's not built to be a good QB anyway. Besides, if Mark's playing bad, it would be really stupid to blame Tebow.

Seriously, guys. What's the risk? We get a guy that gets a few snaps per game for a 4th. If he doesn't work, cut him. If he does, great! I don't see how this isn't a good move.

[ScotlandJet]

Actual question:

Has any team ever been successful with 2 QBs that are fairly equal (or close to it) in skill working as a "team" and playing off each other?

I believe Dallas were pretty successful for a short period back in the day(1962) with alternating QB's but this ultimately caused disharmony. Don Meridith and Eddie Labaron.The quarterbacks also used to alternate plays during every game.

I can see this now working in New York.............
I am joking of course.

[xmscott]

Sparano and the Dolphins' staff coached the 2010 Senior Bowl, and one of the players on their roster was Tebow. Sparano gushed about Tebow's intangibles, according to the Palm Beact Post, but a source told me Wednesday that Sparano "didn't think much of him as a quarterback."



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[Barcs]

This is worse than bringing in Henne would have been.

[Br4dw4y5ux]

To quote Steve Politi: "Ooooh, shiny!"

[JerodMayoJackedMeUp!]

Controversy amongst fans. Not amongst the New York Jets football team. Fan controversy = irrelevant.When the fans and media are booing a young QB in Sanchez and chanting or writing some cute headline calling for Tebow, that's not irrelevent. That's going to impact most guys, they aren't robots, they are human.

You will also have teammates who believe in Tebow and those who believe in Sanchez. I'm guessing more will be in the Tebow camp, personally. You are underestimating how immensely popular Tebow is with his teammates. They LOVE him and he'll no doubt have guys in his corner.

[bhav2k1]

Exactly what is the risk here? Here's are the possibilities:

1. We lose draft picks.

Very little risk. A no-brainer. We gave up a 4th and 6th (and gained a 7th). That's about the price we paid for Joe McKnight, currently a special-teams ace. You fill out role players around that area, you don't get stars and if you miss, that's totally normal. That's exactly what he will be, a role player in this offense, maybe getting 6-8 snaps a game, tops.


Seriously, guys. What's the risk? We get a guy that gets a few snaps per game for a 4th. If he doesn't work, cut him. If he does, great! I don't see how this isn't a good move.

Leon washington was a 4th round draft pick...

[RevisAndHarris]

amazing number of haters here. Seriously the most hatred for a 4th round pick! Come on guys, let's keep this in perspective. The team's already got a ton of attention on them and they're used to controversy.

[Hobbes3259]

You clearly jest.

at 1mil for the year, the only downside was signing Drew Stanton first. (Except that puts a barrier between Tebow and Sanchez, something already overlooked on this thread...)

you're getting a tremendous athlete, a guy who has, to his credit done nothing but win, and can take the wildcat places where Ronnie Brown and Brad Smith couldn't.


Take that to the next step....If you have ANY success with it, you;re forcing defensive staffs to gameplan for it more. This is Brad Smith of the 8000 college yards, and no Pro Starts, this is a guy that took over a 1-4 team NFL and got them to the playoffs.

He's also not a locker room problem, he's going to come in, do what he's asked and work hard at it.

If we're worried about a bunch of morons calling Fatcessa looking for Tebow to start, where do you think that'll go?

We couldnt get rid of Schottenheimer for 6 dang years...

[ShadeTree#55]

Attention and controversy: Check
Talent and depth and a plan: Not so much

[RevisAndHarris]

Leon washington was a 4th round draft pick...

Yep, and he ran the Wildcat (Seminole), too. Wouldn't surprise me a bit to see Tim Tebow have a very similar role, except with a better arm.

[PatsFan2003]

I'm so jealous. You guys have the most funnest team. Without even playng football!

Tell me anyone here knows what going to happen next season.

Get yer Popcorn ready...

[RevisAndHarris]

Attention and controversy: Check
Talent and depth and a plan: Not so much

Tebow:
Talent? Try tackling him, he's got a 5.4 YPC.
Depth? Pretty good #3 QB, if you ask me.
Plan? Use him in the freaking wildcat.

Is this really that hard to understand?

[displacedfan]

I'm so jealous. You guys have the most funnest team. Without even playng football!

Tell me anyone here knows what going to happen next season.

Get yer Popcorn ready...

19-0. :drunk:

[ShadeTree#55]

Tebow:
Talent? Try tackling him, he's got a 5.4 YPC.
Depth? Pretty good #3 QB, if you ask me.
Plan? Use him in the freaking wildcat.

Is this really that hard to understand?

The Pats did a pretty good job of tackling him, eh? Ellis anyone?
#3 QB's cannot play if they are designated as such.
The Wildcat is so 3 years ago.

[Mr. Green Pants]

I imagine the right wing nuts are thrilled about this trade, as it opens up the possibility of a Christian white guy taking a Mexican's jorb. :)

[HOI]

I'm so jealous. You guys have the most funnest team. Without even playng football!

Tell me anyone here knows what going to happen next season.

Get yer Popcorn ready...

2007....2011....2012...

45 wins...6 losses...nothing to show for it

You guys can be entertaining too...

What's Giselle got planned for the offense this year?

[SydneyDon]

Does this mean Rex will stop dropping F-Bombs?

I dont think any of the ten commandments mention anything about using profanity. I bet that Jesus said 'motherfucking' at least 3 times every sentence

[dmarz45]

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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa all this for nothing?!?!?!?!?!?!

[PatsFan2003]

19-0. :drunk:

Well it's still better then 2, (that's 2!) AFC championships in a row.

On a serious note, I think Tebow could be an interesting HB type but we'll see what happens. But still, admit it, this has the possibility to go oh so wrong for the Jets in so many ways..

[m0nk3y]

whoops saw it was already up

[xmscott]

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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa all this for nothing?!?!?!?!?!?!

Rip it up.

[davecrazy]

Tebow:
Talent? Try tackling him, he's got a 5.4 YPC.
Depth? Pretty good #3 QB, if you ask me.
Plan? Use him in the freaking wildcat.

Is this really that hard to understand?

You're going to have a fun time arguing this with the influx of people with late March registration dates and Tebow avatars who are constantly posting about Tebow being the full time starter.

[Banjo]

Tebow steps up against pressure. 95 yard drive against the Jets. Taking it to the Steelers when no one thought he could it. Why wouldn't you want some of that heart and spirit and leadership on the team?

Sanchez crumbled last year under pressure. He needed a drive against the Giants at the end of the game and he felt ass backwards in the end zone for a safety. Couldn't even beat Miami when it was all on the line.

Maybe Tebow and Sanchez can make each other better. Sanchez can manage the game in quarters 1-3, but in a pinch, in the 4th quarter... it's Tebow Time!

[Nilton]

Filed to ESPN (1): Denver and Jets have encountered hangup in language in Tim Tebow's contract that could nullify trade.

[NYSackXchange]

Listen to what your saying....... if your self motivated... Peyton did not need Sorgi to push him. Some players need to be pushed. This game is about competition.

because the argument people are trying to make is that competition is required to push you towards greatness, not that it can do so if you aren't self driven. they are claiming that Sanchez hasn't excelled because he hasn't worked hard enough due to a lack of competition.

that is completely made up and nobody claiming such has anything tangible to base that on.

if competition was so dire, every great QB in history would haven't have been as successful if they were not driven by competition by another player. so, Manning is a perfect example because who was the great QB that drove him to succeed out of fear of losing his job? what about Joe Montana? the list goes on and on.

you don't need competition from another player to be great if you are self-motivated and have a personal competitive desire to succeed.

[ShadeTree#55]

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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa all this for nothing?!?!?!?!?!?!

Praise Tebow, there might be hope after all.

[RevisAndHarris]

The Pats did a pretty good job of tackling him, eh? Ellis anyone?

Because of course, everybody beats the Pats :rolleyes:


#3 QB's cannot play if they are designated as such.

He'll probably be designated the #2 QB so he can play on gameday, but will be 3rd on the depth chart.


The Wildcat is so 3 years ago.

Oh my God, you mean we have to do what everybody else is doing so we can be stuck in mediocrity?? If you want to be fashionable, go cheer for some other team. It should be all about winning and if the Wildcat helps like it diddd in 2009 and 2010, we should be embracing it.

[dmarz45]

I bet the Broncos are asking for more now

[displacedfan]

Roller coaster ride.

[SufferingJetsFan]

Filed to ESPN (1): Denver and Jets have encountered hangup in language in Tim Tebow's contract that could nullify trade.

Please. Shred the contract. Send him elsewhere.

[PatsFan2003]

2007....2011....2012...

45 wins...6 losses...nothing to show for it

You guys can be entertaining too...

What's Giselle got planned for the offense this year?

As opposed to 2 (yes that's a big 2) AFC championships in a row...

I think it's foolish trying to compare accomplishments.

Although I would take Kete Upton over Giselle. You got us there.

[ShadeTree#55]

Because of course, everybody beats the Pats :rolleyes:


Sanchez beat the Pats.

[Jetfanmack]

This would be the ultimate troll if no trade ended up happening. Driving Jets fans into a frenzy for a few hours.

[xmscott]

Adam Schefter
✔
@AdamSchefter
(2) If the Tebow trade to Jets falls apart, St. Louis could wind up getting back into play. Sides sorting through details.

So down

[Poeman]

God has other plans

[#28Martin]

Schefter is an annoying troublemaker... No chance that the deal doesn't go thru.

[displacedfan]

This would be the ultimate troll if no trade ended up happening. Driving Jets fans into a frenzy for a few hours.

You summed up this ordeal perfectly.

[milo]

Tanny and Rex probably heard the reactions and decided they like employment.

[Murrell2878]

Hang up in the trade?

[dmarz45]

Broncos are probably trying to jack up the draft picks on us.

[The Uniform Bomber]

Hahah Tanny created a snag in the contract that would nullify the trade after it was announced and the organization was able to gauge the overall reaction.

[Murrell2878]

oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please,

[RevisAndHarris]

Sanchez beat the Pats.

What does that have to do with anything? Troll.

[dmarz45]

@AdamSchefter
Tim Tebow has $5 million worth of recapture language, meaning Jets would have to pay back money to Denver. Jets might be unwilling. Complex.

[displacedfan]

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Tim Tebow has $5 million worth of recapture language, meaning Jets would have to pay back money to Denver. Jets might be unwilling. Complex.

[milo]

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Tim Tebow has $5 million worth of recapture language, meaning Jets would have to pay back money to Denver. Jets might be unwilling. Complex.

haha triple tweet

[The Dark Knight]

How has TGG not exploded? Now deal might NOT happen? haha.

[dmarz45]

I wonder if that $5M is a cap hit or is it just an outright payment?

[SufferingJetsFan]

If the deal doesn't go through, this would easily make for one of the weirdest days in Jets history.

[RevisAndHarris]

Like most of the sportswriters, most of the hate on this forum is not with the player, but with his politics.

[Banjo]

God wants Tebow on the New York Jets. It's going to happen!

[Quit Ducking Revis]

I wonder if that $5M is a cap hit or is it just an outright payment?

I'm wondering the same thing.

[NFL4ever]

The lord giveth and he taketh away.

[dmarz45]

I'm wondering the same thing.

If its a cap hit I would say hell no. $6M for this season is way too much for Tebow...

[xxedge72x]

What exactly is recapture language?

[displacedfan]

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The same money issues in Tim Tebow's contract caused complications for Jacksonville trying to complete trade. Now Jets facing them.

[Jet Rider]

Tim Tebow should able to beat the Patriots now!!

[Kentucky Jet]

Come on SON. You know as soon as Sanchez faces some adversity, this braindead fanbase will start Screaming for Tebow.

#GETREAL

and if Sanchez is playing poorly, why not?

[JdotGriff]

I'm wondering the same thing.

If it was a payment it wouldn't even be an issue. He would still see it as profitable

It must be a cap hit

[dmarz45]

As much as I was anti-Tebow, I would actually be kinda sad if he didnt end up coming here lol.. I like when everybody is talking about the Jets its fun...

[NJBeliever]

and if Sanchez is playing poorly, why not?

Exactly.

The irony in all of this is that even if the Tebow trade doesn't happen, the fans are going to be screaming for Stanton. So then what??

The amount of respect Sanchez gets in this forum is unbelievable. Imagine how it would be if was more than just a mediocre, weak-armed QB?

[milo]

The NFL should pay it. They've sold twice that much money in Tebow Jets jerseys in the last 5 hours.

[The Dark Knight]

and if Sanchez is playing poorly, why not?

It just depends how poorly. A bad series? No. Bad game? No. 2 bad games? No. 3? No. 4? Maybe.

But Jets fans will do it after 2 straight incompletions.

[Jetfanmack]

Woody, how much are your extra jersey sales worth?

[Murrell2878]

Don't pay the money!

[dmarz45]

The NFL should pay it. They've sold twice that much money in Tebow Jets jerseys in the last 5 hours.

if the trade doesnt happen. sucks for those people who bought the jerseys lol!!!

[xmscott]

It just depends how poorly. A bad series? No. Bad game? No. 2 bad games? No. 3? No. 4? Maybe.

But Jets fans will do it after 2 straight incompletions.

Quotes for truth. Its going to be a mess. Even if he comes in to play RB.

[JdotGriff]

It just depends how poorly. A bad series? No. Bad game? No. 2 bad games? No. 3? No. 4? Maybe.

But Tebow fans will do it after 2 straight incompletions.

Corrected......

[Murrell2878]

The NFL should pay it. They've sold twice that much money in Tebow Jets jerseys in the last 5 hours.

Maybe, but I think 60% of the Jets fanbase hates this trade.

[#28Martin]

Some of you are so lame.. Oh don't do it,,, get the heck outta here....

[NJBeliever]

if the trade doesnt happen. sucks for those people who bought the jerseys lol!!!


Why? It would become the ultimate collector's item.

[RevisIsGod]

encountered hangup in language in Tim Tebow's contract that could nullify trade. If the Tebow trade to Jets falls apart, St. Louis could wind up getting back into play. Sides sorting through details.
Adam Schefter

[xmscott]

The Jets didnt print jerseys yet.

[MParty7441]

If this language is in Tewbow's contract, why cant he just waive the clause?

[pender30]

Please let this deal fall apart so I can watch the fourth round of the draft with vested interest

[Axel3419]

"Jets still alive and working to complete this trade. But there are contractual complications."

-Schefter

[Banjo]

say the Jets start out 1-4 like Denver did. Even the most hardcore Sanchez fans will call for Tebow and for good reason.

As long as Sanchez and the Jets stay at .500, his job is probably safe.

[johnny]

Exactly.

The irony in all of this is that even if the Tebow trade doesn't happen, the fans are going to be screaming for Stanton. So then what??

The amount of respect Sanchez gets in this forum is unbelievable. Imagine how it would be if was more than just a mediocre, weak-armed QB?

Respect? It's probably 50-50 (at best) when it comes to people in favor of Sanchez. And that was before Tebow.

[displacedfan]

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Jets still alive and working to complete this trade. But there are contractual complications.

[dmarz45]

say the Jets start out 1-4 like Denver did. Even the most hardcore Sanchez fans will call for Tebow and for good reason.

As long as Sanchez and the Jets stay at .500, his job is probably safe.

yea i said that before, I cant see Sanchez going 1-4 to start the year...

[Will_Barcells]

The trade may not go through due to contractual complications.

[BleedJetsGreen1981]

On the negative fan reaction and supposed deal for TT falling through;

Big wake up call for Woody and the other clowns, no Tebow. Go out and address the issues this team needs to contend for a Superbowl.

[ollie]

If this language is in Tewbow's contract, why cant he just waive the clause?

The union wouldn't allow it

[northernjet]

I would laugh pretty hard if the trade doesn't go through.

[#28Martin]

Please let this deal fall apart so I can watch the fourth round of the draft with vested interest

That might be the lamest comment yet.

[Denny]

It's over........no way the Jets pay 5 mil

[Br4dw4y5ux]

say the Jets start out 1-4 like Denver did. Even the most hardcore Sanchez fans will call for Tebow and for good reason.

As long as Sanchez and the Jets stay at .500, his job is probably safe.

You have to be kidding me. The first bad game Sanchez has people will be screaming for Tebow unless the Jets are like 4-0 already or something.

[dmarz45]

On the negative fan reaction and supposed deal for TT falling through;

Big wake up call for Woody and the other clowns, no Tebow. Go out and address the issues this team needs to contend for a Superbowl.

Tebow was only GOING to cost us $1M this season, leaving us plenty of room to sign other players. We can still address the other issues....

[xxedge72x]

Who would contribute to the offense more this year? Tim Tebow or Bilal Powell?

[Will_Barcells]

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Source confirms Mike Tannenbaum, Scott Cohen, Ari Nissim & Jacqueline Davidson are all currently working "diligently" to get this deal done.

[#28Martin]

The trade may not go through due to contractual complications.

Get back to me when it doesn't go thru... Jets want him,,, it's thru.

[Jake]

Jacksonville running into the same contractual shit and nobody hearing about it makes sense. The NY media prob jumped the gun.

[NJBeliever]

Respect? It's probably 50-50 (at best) when it comes to people in favor of Sanchez. And that was before Tebow.

I couldn't tell by all the outrage that Tebow will "pressure" Sanchez. Who cares? The guy deserves "pressure." I'm wondering why no one is bringing up the Denver game when Sanchez threw another pick 6 to set up Tebow's heroics?? Sanchez is just not a good NFL caliber QB.

Not to mention that Tebow will just be a utility weapon in the offense, so there's really not much harm. Rex has shown time and time again he will coach how he wants to and he has undying loyalty to Sanchez. So I don't see how a TD machine like Tebow hurts.

[dawinner127]

You have to be kidding me. The first bad game Sanchez has people will be screaming for Tebow unless the Jets are like 4-0 already or something.

This. This. This.

[Banjo]

I wonder which side Fireman Ed's on. Tebow or Sanchez. LOL

[BleedJetsGreen1981]

Tebow was only GOING to cost us $1M this season, leaving us plenty of room to sign other players. We can still address the other issues....

I know but, now there is an apparent snag that the Jets might have to owe Broncos $5 million due to recapture language. No way they piss away that much for weak qb with happy feet.

[displacedfan]

I couldn't tell by all the outrage that Tebow will "pressure" Sanchez. Who cares? The guy deserves "pressure." I'm wondering why no one is bringing up the Denver game when Sanchez threw another pick 6 to set up Tebow's heroics?? Sanchez is just not a good NFL caliber QB.

Not to mention that Tebow will just be a utility weapon in the offense, so there's really not much harm. Rex has shown time and time again he will coach how he wants to and he has undying loyalty to Sanchez. So I don't see how a TD machine like Tebow hurts.

Do you know who has the most 4th quarter comebacks since Sanchez entered the league? Sanchez. But go on and pick one game and base your football opinion on that one game.

It's not that Tebow will pressure Sanchez, its that after one subpar game from Sanchez (which every QB has in a 16 game season) the media will be pushing a Tebow for starting QB campaign and every question will be about that to the team. Its going to be pretty distracting when every interview is going to have, "should Tebow be the starter?". You think we had a bad lockerroom last season, see what happens if you the media pushing for a storyline.

[Jetfanmack]

Maybe we can drop the compensation to just a 4th as compensation for paying this.

[dmarz45]

I know but, now there is an apparent snag that the Jets might have to owe Broncos $5 million due to recapture language. No way they piss away that much for weak qb with happy feet.

i know, hence the capital GOING... I agree Tebow is not worth $6M if that's the case...

[dwalsh]

Jacksonville running into the same contractual shit and nobody hearing about it makes sense. The NY media prob jumped the gun.

except for the fact that the Jets announced it....

[displacedfan]

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One league source said he believes Tim Tebow trade with Jets will go through. But contractual issues now complicating it.

[displacedfan]

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Jets-Broncos agreed to Tim Tebow trade before Denver asked NY to pay back portion of bonuses and salary already paid to Tebow. No deal yet.

*** This is different than the tweet I posted above.

[AnyGivenSunday]

Maybe we can drop the compensation to just a 4th as compensation for paying this.

That's what I'd guess/hope is probably happening. Maybe they can drop it to a 5th and a 6th or something like that.

[milo]

Maybe we can give them Wayne Hunter to make this go through.

[BamaZeus]

I don't understand why we would owe $5 million for anything. If there's some no-trade clause in his contract that Tebow gets paid if he gets traded, that's on Denver, not us.

[BamaZeus]

Maybe we can give them Wayne Hunter to make this go through.

I like the way you're thinking

[Catfish Billy]

Maybe we can give them Wayne Hunter to make this go through.

Wayne Hunter will make sure the deal goes through. For sure.

[dmarz45]

I don't understand why we would owe $5 million for anything. If there's some no-trade clause in his contract that Tebow gets paid if he gets traded, that's on Denver, not us.

Yeah apparently its to reimburse Broncos for bonuses. Why the fuck should that be our problem??

[Hooterdawg]

Apparently the Broncos expect the Jets to pay them $5M cash as part of the Tebow transaction. He doesn't believe any team would agree to that payment. So the trade could possibly be reversed.

[Jerricholic89]

No way we get him now...Tannenbaum is way too cheap to pay that...

[davecrazy]

Yeah apparently its to reimburse Broncos for bonuses. Why the fuck should that be our problem??

Because it was an advance on future years salary. Why should Denver pay for a player not on their team.

[xmscott]

Jets would make that back before OTA's.

Its being talked about in the Tebow thread. You should have used that.

[Br4dw4y5ux]

Anonymous sources in the Jets locker room think Tim Tebow should be starting for the Jets at QB after Mark Sanchez threw an interception against the Dolphins late Sunday afternoon and the Jets dropped to 3-1.

"He's never going to be the man here making throws like that one" said one source. "They coddle him too much, Tebow should have been in on 3rd and 6 on the 15. He's the guy we got for those situations" said another.

[laxin]

LOL. If they think that the Jets are paying them... Wow. Thats funny...

They should be paying us.

[VanderbiltJets]

Cancel the trade. Revoke the trade. Do not make the trade again. No tebow.

[SouthBayJetsfan4life]

Considering all the negative feedback the Jets are getting from their fans,players and press, now would be a good time to walk away and don't look back.

[Frenbar]

This is a no brainer. If the $5 million counts against the cap there's no way Jets do the deal, if it's just money out of Woody's pocket the Jets would be stupid not to pay it. The Tebow hype will be worth far more to Woody in advertising and sales then $5 when all is said and done. The same obviously can't be said about the Jags who are in a much smaller market with much lower revenue, so you can't make a comparison to that deal.

[laxin]

Anonymous sources in the Jets locker room think Tim Tebow should be starting for the Jets at QB after Mark Sanchez threw an interception against the Dolphins late Sunday afternoon and the Jets dropped to 3-1.

"He's never going to be the man here making throws like that one" said one source. "They coddle him too much, Tebow should have been in on 3rd and 6 on the 15. He's the guy we got for those situations" said another.

“Anonymous sources”... Haha.

Cant wait for this circus!

[Jagsbch]

I don't understand why we would owe $5 million for anything. If there's some no-trade clause in his contract that Tebow gets paid if he gets traded, that's on Denver, not us.

I guess the claus is in there because Elway does not want tebow to be a Jag.

[VanderbiltJets]

For some reason it looks like St. Louis will get Tebow if the trade falls through..
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[VanderbiltJets]

Considering all the negative feedback the Jets are getting from their fans,players and press, now would be a good time to walk away and don't look back.

Amen. This.

[MParty7441]

The union wouldn't allow it

The language has nothing to do with Tebow getting more money.

[Jagsbch]

Yeah apparently its to reimburse Broncos for bonuses. Why the fuck should that be our problem??

Elway is an elitist prima donna who is new at the game of runnign a team. Guy is such a kook...

[Will_Barcells]

Tanny will make this happen. They can re-write the language. This is something that as a fan it is difficult to understand what is going on in the FO. Just let it happen. Tebow will be a Jet.

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[metfan2987]

Can anybody answer to me why it was the right move for them to get involved in this circus??? Please Woody, stop this madness.

[Bill Belichdouche]

Tebow must have prayed to god this trade wont go through

looks like it worked

[xmscott]

He will be Jet by the time the sun goes down. It is Spring.

[dmarz45]

Anonymous sources in the Jets locker room think Tim Tebow should be starting for the Jets at QB after Mark Sanchez threw an interception against the Dolphins late Sunday afternoon and the Jets dropped to 3-1.

"He's never going to be the man here making throws like that one" said one source. "They coddle him too much, Tebow should have been in on 3rd and 6 on the 15. He's the guy we got for those situations" said another.

yeah Tebow only plays good in crunch time. He is just a clutch player. Tebow had 6 4th quarter comebacks last season so he is an asset for us late in games.

[73klecko]

Maybe we can give them Wayne Hunter to make this go through.

I hate this trade and feel miserable about it but this made me laugh out loud. Appreciate it.

[dmarz45]

Tebow must have prayed to god this trade wont go through

looks like it worked

hahahah dude this is an awesome post!!! :rofl:

[evojoe67]

You would think they would have figured this all out before word got out,no?

[OldTimer]

Hold up guys. NFL Network is reporting that Denver wants the 5mil.they paid Tebow from the Jets

[wa2k99]

Hold up guys. NFL Network is reporting that Denver wants the 5mil.they paid Tebow from the Jets

Uh, we know

[Falco21]

Hold up guys. NFL Network is reporting that Denver wants the 5mil.they paid Tebow from the Jets

Little late to the party there buddy

[Jagsbch]

yeah Tebow only plays good in crunch time. He is just a clutch player. Tebow had 6 4th quarter comebacks last season so he is an asset for us late in games.

Tebow was really not really allowed to be unleashed until crunch time...

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[Catfish Billy]

I don't know if you guys heard, but there is a snag in the deal.

[laxin]

Is anyone surprised by something involving Tebow being incomplete?

[JohnnyThaJet]

Ugh, man this fanbase has really disappointed me today. The overreaction is complete non sense. Saying youre giving up your fandom because of a trade? Seriously?

I hated the Tebow shit as much as anyone around here last season but when I broke this move down it made complete sense for what we're going to do.

If you want to renounce yourself as a fan, go ahead, fuck you. If not just keep faith in this fucking team and stop bitching about every little thing. No wonder so many outside fans hate us.

[GordonGecko]

I don't know if you guys heard, but there is a snag in the deal.

please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god

[PatPatriot]

Is anyone surprised by something involving Tebow being incomplete?

I laughed.

[Br4dw4y5ux]

Ugh, man this fanbase has really disappointed me today. The overreaction is complete non sense. Saying youre giving up your fandom because of a trade? Seriously?

I hated the Tebow shit as much as anyone around here but when I broke this move down it made complete sense for what we're going to do.

If you want to renounce yourself as a fan, go ahead, fuck you. If not just keep faith in this fucking team and stop bitching about every little thing. No wonder so many outside fans hate us.

I would never think of this as a real possibility except where the Jets are concerned. I think it is quite possible that the Jets are the only professional franchise, other than the Cincinnati Bengals, where the fans really do know more about football and the NFL than the management team and owner.

[RevisAndHarris]

Ugh, man this fanbase has really disappointed me today. The overreaction is complete non sense. Saying youre giving up your fandom because of a trade? Seriously?

I hated the Tebow shit as much as anyone around here last season but when I broke this move down it made complete sense for what we're going to do.

If you want to renounce yourself as a fan, go ahead, fuck you. If not just keep faith in this fucking team and stop bitching about every little thing. No wonder so many outside fans hate us.

QFT

If you hate this team because of Tebow, GTFO.

[SufferingJetsFan]

Ugh, man this fanbase has really disappointed me today. The overreaction is complete non sense. Saying youre giving up your fandom because of a trade? Seriously?

I hated the Tebow shit as much as anyone around here last season but when I broke this move down it made complete sense for what we're going to do.

If you want to renounce yourself as a fan, go ahead, fuck you. If not just keep faith in this fucking team and stop bitching about every little thing. No wonder so many outside fans hate us.

I hear you, but anybody threatening to renounce their support of the team is either WAY too emotional right now, or was never a real fan.

[milo]

Woody Johnson's answer to the $5 million dollar snag:

New vendors at Jet games.

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[JohnnyThaJet]

I would never think of this as a real possibility except where the Jets are concerned. I think it is quite possible that the Jets are the only professional franchise, other than the Cincinnati Bengals, where the fans really do know more about football and the NFL than the management team and owner.

Is this sarcasm, I cant tell.

[Falco21]

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AHAHHAHA!

[SouthBayJetsfan4life]

No matter how this turns out, Tannenbaum looks like an amateur. Don't you read the contract BEFORE the trade is announced? I read that Jacksonville didn't make the trade because of the problems in the contract. Now Tannenbaum looks like idiot either way. If he takes the contract, every GM in the league will look at him funny. If it doesn't happen, people will want to know why it was announced in the first place?

[JohnnyThaJet]

QFT

If you hate this team because of Tebow, GTFO.

I hear you, but anybody threatening to renounce their support of the team is either WAY too emotional right now, or was never a real fan.

I understand the emotional aspect, but if youre a true fan you dont just say "fuck it I am out".

I have dedicated too much of my own time and emotion to just give up on this team.

[Revis is your daddy]

If Broncos want the full 5 million then there is 0 chance this deal is done. Sucks having Tebow would fix our HB problem and make our goal line offense better for I think would be 1.1 million cap hit this season.

[SouthBayJetsfan4life]

Woody Johnson's answer to the $5 million dollar snag:

New vendors at Jet games.

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That's funny...

[#28Martin]

He knew about. Knowing Good Guy Tanny, he and the Jets probably tried to pull a fast one.

[dmarz45]

hahah I was gonna post this vid before too...

all he does it winnnnnnn


just makes me want him even more

[PJ4Ever]

I would never think of this as a real possibility except where the Jets are concerned. I think it is quite possible that the Jets are the only professional franchise, other than the Cincinnati Bengals, where the fans really do know more about football and the NFL than the management team and owner.

Haha, you're kidding right? Jets fans might be the dumbest in all of sports.

[Falco21]

LMAO That is hysterical!!

[Buffalo Jet]

Like most of the sportswriters, most of the hate on this forum is not with the player, but with his politics.

For me, I dislike tebow not because of his politics, but because of all the hype a mediocre at best QB gets because of his politics. If he wasn't so vocal about his religion people wouldn't make such a big deal about him. People wouldn't ignore the fact that there was some incredibly fortuitous happenstance that occured in many of his "miracle wins". Like the entire steelers starting D-line hurt in the wildcard game, The run out of bounds and then fumble in the chicago game, or the fact that if jim leonhard doesn't miss a tackle by inches that drive against the jets is a 3 play game clinching safety. Maybe he does have god on his side and it is often better to be lucky than good, but his talent level as a QB is grossly overrated because he is an evangelist.

[SufferingJetsFan]

I have dedicated too much of my own time and emotion to just give up on this team.

Me too. I bet there are a lot of real Jets fans that wish they could have stopped rooting for the team a long time ago. :grin:

I don't get how you can just wake up and say, "Yeah, I don't think I'll root for my team anymore."

[laxin]

In a trade, acquiring team is responsible for salaries. Because #Broncos advanced 5M of future 12-14 salaries, tht $ to be refunded by #Jets

Retweeted by NYJetscap

[Hooterdawg]

Jets would make that back before OTA's.

Its being talked about in the Tebow thread. You should have used that.

There are several Tebow threads dealing with different issues. Negating a deal is a specific issue compared to the general whining of almost 1500 responses.

[Royal Tee]

KeOUhGWVqvU

[Franchize]

The only good thing to come of this Tebow situation is the hilarious jokes.

[Falco21]

^^^ Thank you! Couldn't figure out how to embed it

[displacedfan]

No matter how this turns out, Tannenbaum looks like an amateur. Don't you read the contract BEFORE the trade is announced? I read that Jacksonville didn't make the trade because of the problems in the contract. Now Tannenbaum looks like idiot either way. If he takes the contract, every GM in the league will look at him funny. If it doesn't happen, people will want to know why it was announced in the first place?

Tanny agree to the trade before Denver asked for the 5 million. If anything Tanny almost got the trade and left Denver paying the 5 million on the contract.

That's what I got from the tweet "Jets-Broncos agreed to Tim Tebow trade before Denver asked NY to pay back portion of bonuses and salary already paid to Tebow. No deal yet."

It means Tanny agreed to the deal before Denver asked.

[Falco21]

I really wana see him throw the ball down and scream on a TD in a Jets uniform!

[evojoe67]

Denver's got some set of balls to expect any team to pay for that.

[dmarz45]

The only good thing to come of this Tebow situation is the hilarious jokes.

:rofl:

hilarious

[Rex's Sweater Vest]

It's destiny


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Sanchez goes down, and Tebow has to beat Manning to get us to the SB

[milo]

Is this thing gonna break the Revis holdout thread?

[Br4dw4y5ux]

Haha, you're kidding right? Jets fans might be the dumbest in all of sports.

I never said they weren't. I just said they might be smarter than the management team and owner.

[ProfJets]

If Elway wants Tebow gone so badly, then the Broncos should eat the $5 mil

[JohnnyThaJet]

Me too. I bet there are a lot of real Jets fans that wish they could have stopped rooting for the team a long time ago. :grin:

I don't get how you can just wake up and say, "Yeah, I don't think I'll root for my team anymore."

You can say that if youre a bandwagon fan but I am certainly not.

Its almost a good thing to see the people who were never actually true fans leave, Im fine with it.

[milo]

If Elway wants Tebow gone so badly, then the Broncos should eat the $5 mil

Breaking news: Broncos agree to eat $5 million, will take it out of Manning contract.

Breaking breaking news: Insulted Manning retires.

[PJ4Ever]

I never said they weren't. I just said they might be smarter than the management team and owner.

Haha, touche my friend. Touche.

[jetbugga]

if the deal gets done, it would be a matter of time before tebow takes over our offense. sorry nacho but 5-6 batted down balls a game is too much for me.

[Franchize]

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[Fiftynine]

Ok hopefully this deal doesn't go through and some other team takes Tebow, the $5mm, and this entire clusterfuck out of our hands.

[Chrebet86]

"Hey I just got a car as a gift from my fiance, wanna buy my old one? Its an 02 Chevy and I just made the last payment on it....Ok so we have a deal?....Great, by the way, its the beginning of the month so I didnt really get my months worth outta that payment so im gonna need another $600...."

Broken Deal

[HardHitta]

Fuck this. You tell us to pay 5 million after we agree to a trade ? Sleezy fucks, Keep tebow.

[RevisAndHarris]

For me, I dislike tebow not because of his politics, but because of all the hype a mediocre at best QB gets because of his politics. If he wasn't so vocal about his religion people wouldn't make such a big deal about him. People wouldn't ignore the fact that there was some incredibly fortuitous happenstance that occured in many of his "miracle wins". Like the entire steelers starting D-line hurt in the wildcard game, The run out of bounds and then fumble in the chicago game, or the fact that if jim leonhard doesn't miss a tackle by inches that drive against the jets is a 3 play game clinching safety. Maybe he does have god on his side and it is often better to be lucky than good, but his talent level as a QB is grossly overrated because he is an evangelist.

Hey, if you don't like his politics, that's fine. But for all the "hype" he gets from people who agree with his politics, there's equal or more hatred from people who disagree. And let's face it, they see him as worse than he is because of it.

[evojoe67]

Ok hopefully this deal doesn't go through and some other team takes Tebow, the $5mm, and this entire clusterfuck out of our hands.

If that happens you can bet Tebow goes on to a HOF career.

[Harpua]

Me too. I bet there are a lot of real Jets fans that wish they could have stopped rooting for the team a long time ago. :grin:

I don't get how you can just wake up and say, "Yeah, I don't think I'll root for my team anymore."

That, for the most part, has happened for the Islanders for me.

When for 20 or so years the ownership does its best to get players to the point hwere they are ready for the NHL, or Rushes them to the league, and then trades them, you grow very tired of it. The Contracts to Yashin and Ricky killed them for me. I barley even watch NHL games any more except for the finals now.

The Jets moves may be questionable at times, but at least they are trying to win.

[dcm1602]

How would this 5 million$ shit work ? Hope this deal falls apart

[Franchize]

Meanwhile, the Bills and Pats are busy making their team better day by day. =/

[Revis is your daddy]

if the deal gets done, it would be a matter of time before tebow takes over our offense. sorry nacho but 5-6 batted down balls a game is too much for me.

Its a good thing no one involved with the team gives a fuck what you think.

[Br4dw4y5ux]

Could this be an NFL-wide conspiracy?

The NFL announces the sanctions for bounty-gate today and the Broncos and Jets agree to bury the news in the middle pages by working out a fall-through trade for Tebow?

Goodell has Jets connections after all. And nobody is talking much about what would otherwise be the story of the day if not week.

[nyjunc]

Meanwhile, the Bills and Pats are busy making their team better day by day. =/

don't confuse big names w/ getting better

[laxin]

Meanwhile, the Bills and Pats are busy making their team better day by day. =/

The Bills signed Mark Anderson to play across from Williams today, yet we are trying to get a WC QB...

[Jetfan76]

This thread is almost moving as fast as a gameday thread!

[Revis is your daddy]

Could this be an NFL-wide conspiracy?

The NFL announces the sanctions for bounty-gate today and the Broncos and Jets agree to bury the news in the middle pages by working out a fall-through trade for Tebow?

Goodell has Jets connections after all. And nobody is talking much about what would otherwise be the story of the day if not week.

This thread is just getting more pathetic by the post. I hope you're joking.

[Fiftynine]

If that happens you can bet Tebow goes on to a HOF career.

Probably leading the Pats to a few championships no less.

[Jagsbch]

Could this be an NFL-wide conspiracy?

The NFL announces the sanctions for bounty-gate today and the Broncos and Jets agree to bury the news in the middle pages by working out a fall-through trade for Tebow?

Goodell has Jets connections after all. And nobody is talking much about what would otherwise be the story of the day if not week.

We are not talking about politics either maybe Obama is behind the timing of the deal ans well as Payton. I love a good conspiracy theory... LOL

[Revis is your daddy]

The Bills signed Mark Anderson to play across from Williams today, yet we are trying to get a WC QB...

We have limited cap room. Get the fuck over it people. We are not able to sign a top FA. How some of you still don't know this is ridiculous.

[displacedfan]

Could this be an NFL-wide conspiracy?

The NFL announces the sanctions for bounty-gate today and the Broncos and Jets agree to bury the news in the middle pages by working out a fall-through trade for Tebow?

Goodell has Jets connections after all. And nobody is talking much about what would otherwise be the story of the day if not week.

I detect sarcasm here, or one of the uneducated Pats fans took over your account.

[egelband]

i guess the hangup is to do with something the league won't allow? so it's not like another team could do something the jets couldn't. or am i misunderstanding?

[Br4dw4y5ux]

This thread is just getting more pathetic by the post. I hope you're joking.

I'm grasping at straws, trying to make the whole thing make sense. On the face of it the Jets management team and owner look like pathetic fools trying to compete with a real team across town. I'd much rather that there was a good reason that they did this.

[JetsKickAss]

This is a no brainer. If the $5 million counts against the cap there's no way Jets do the deal, if it's just money out of Woody's pocket the Jets would be stupid not to pay it. The Tebow hype will be worth far more to Woody in advertising and sales then $5 when all is said and done. The same obviously can't be said about the Jags who are in a much smaller market with much lower revenue, so you can't make a comparison to that deal.

Totally false....Tebow is a legend in Jacksonville and would probably be good for 10,000 -20,000 season ticket sales in Year 1. He would easily generate $20-$30 MM in revenue for Jacksonville.

[laxin]

We have limited cap room. Get the fuck over it people. We are not able to sign a top FA. How some of you still don't know this is ridiculous.

So because we have limited cap room, we cant sign anyone? Really? Didnt know that...

Im pretty sure we could be trying to bring in OJ Atogwe or Reggie Smith or a RT?

Or we could be exploring other trades that are much more needed (Jonathan Stewart comes to mind).

[NYGalPal]

They announced the trade before they even read the contract? If that's true, that is embarrassing. How do you not read the contract? Geez!

[Fiftynine]

They announced the trade before they even read the contract? If that's true, that is embarrassing. How do you not read the contract? Geez!

Why read? Tebow is involved. All you need is faith.

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[Br4dw4y5ux]

They announced the trade before they even read the contract? If that's true, that is embarrassing. How do you not read the contract? Geez!

You don't read the contract when you see... Oooooh shiny grab grab

The truth is probably more along the lines of the Jets don't have a plan that works and in the absence of that crucial factor they break down into repetitive hand-to-mouth actions, which are broken only by... Oooooh shiny grab grab

[SufferingJetsFan]

They announced the trade before they even read the contract? If that's true, that is embarrassing. How do you not read the contract? Geez!

It really does make them look like amateurish tools.

[Revis is your daddy]

I'm grasping at straws, trying to make the whole thing make sense. On the face of it the Jets management team and owner look like pathetic fools trying to compete with a real team across town. I'd much rather that there was a good reason that they did this.

We have 1 half back. Sporano likes to run the wild cat. Tebow is the number 1 candidate for any wildcat offense. Tebows completion % was low because he attempted and completed a fair amount of big plays something the Jets were awful with last year. With Plax gone our goal line o struggles but Tebow will help that as well as 3rd and short. He sells well and is a leader on the field something that people here were dying for before. I hate Tebow but its easy to understand why they would want him. People are just blinded by their hatred of Tebow and their need to criticize the Front Office.

[laxin]

Per Cimini

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HAHAHAHAHAHA... This organization is a joke. Sigh

[Axel3419]

Hopefully we'll know the outcome soon... this is quite a rollercoaster

[mr nyjet]

This is a no brainer. If the $5 million counts against the cap there's no way Jets do the deal, if it's just money out of Woody's pocket the Jets would be stupid not to pay it. The Tebow hype will be worth far more to Woody in advertising and sales then $5 when all is said and done. The same obviously can't be said about the Jags who are in a much smaller market with much lower revenue, so you can't make a comparison to that deal.

it is also just possible that our alleged gm , the contracts guru, completed agreement on a trade WITHOUT even reading the actual contract?:sad:

this is the same guy who had hunter at right tackle last year while sitting on $11 million in salary cap space, while teams like the ravens, chiefs , and chargers brought in capable vets to give themselves a shot at the playoffs.

[Big Blocker]

They announced the trade before they even read the contract? If that's true, that is embarrassing. How do you not read the contract? Geez!

If Tanny worked for an owner who knew what he was doing, he would have been fired before now.

The problem is quite simply Woody.

[SufferingJetsFan]

It's okay to agree to the terms of the trade in principal, but don't announce the damn deal until you read the freaking contract. WTF Jets??

[GQMartin]

If Tanny worked for an owner who knew what he was doing, he would have been fired before now.

The problem is quite simply Woody.

Sadly for us all, you are correct.

[Revis is your daddy]

So because we have limited cap room, we cant sign anyone? Really? Didnt know that...

Im pretty sure we could be trying to bring in OJ Atogwe or Reggie Smith or a RT?

Or we could be exploring other trades that are much more needed (Jonathan Stewart comes to mind).

Who says we aren't? We already signed Landry and OJ is scheduled to meet with the team. Its March not August. You're a joke.

[dmarz45]

The way I see it is that the Broncos gave him a salary advance last season bc he was playing well. Thats the money they owe him for taking the Broncos to the playoffs... As Manish said Why would the Jets pay $5.1M to the Broncos for a player that will be used as a No. 2/3 QB, H-back/Wildcat threat? Im guessing it such a big deal bc the extra $5.1M would go against our salary cap, but spread out btw 3 years its not bad, only an exta $1.3M a year.

[sanchize]

If he really didn't read the contract before agreeing to the trade I will be pissed. If he is really that dumb I am going to flip out.

[mr nyjet]

quick! fire tanny, offer polihan the gm job.

our alleged gm never even read the contract before trading the picks.

[dmarz45]

quick! fire tanny, offer polihan the gm job.

our alleged gm never even read the contract before trading the picks.

hahah so true... you can predict the future...

[displacedfan]

I saw two tweets. One saying Jets didn't recognize language in contract saying they need to pick up the 5 million another saying the Jets didn't read the contract. Which is it? Either way Tanny is coming out of this looking bad. Let him write contracts/manage the cap, let someone else make football decisions

[Don]

Really, this doesn't matter. It will get done or they will have him for the next three years. They would have to GIVE a team Tebow and a third round pick (maybe a second) to have somebody give them 5 million bucks.

[laxin]

Per Manish:

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Once again, this organization is a joke.

[PatsFan2003]

please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god please god

I'm thinking the same thing... :grin:

[Br4dw4y5ux]

We have 1 half back. Sporano likes to run the wild cat. Tebow is the number 1 candidate for any wildcat offense. Tebows completion % was low because he attempted and completed a fair amount of big plays something the Jets were awful with last year. With Plax gone our goal line o struggles but Tebow will help that as well as 3rd and short. He sells well and is a leader on the field something that people here were dying for before. I hate Tebow but its easy to understand why they would want him. People are just blinded by their hatred of Tebow and their need to criticize the Front Office.

People are blinded by the fact that Tim Tebow sucks as a QB and as soon as the NFL has enough film on him he's going to go from leading his team to subpar offensive results to leading his team to terrible offensive results.

The guy is not an NFL QB. He doesn't have the mechanics down and in two seasons with the Broncos and with the freaking tutelage of John Elway, who was a similar type of player although a hundred times better, he wasn't willing to fix that and make himself into a possible NFL QB.

Why do you think John Elway wants to get rid of him after he lead the broncos to the playoffs for the first time in a long time last season?

Just answer that one question and you'll understand why the Jets should be running screaming into the parking lot right now and thanking their lucky stars that they didn't read the contract before they made this move.

[FreeMcneil]

Tebow steps up against pressure. 95 yard drive against the Jets. Taking it to the Steelers when no one thought he could it. Why wouldn't you want some of that heart and spirit and leadership on the team?

Sanchez crumbled last year under pressure. He needed a drive against the Giants at the end of the game and he felt ass backwards in the end zone for a safety. Couldn't even beat Miami when it was all on the line.

Maybe Tebow and Sanchez can make each other better. Sanchez can manage the game in quarters 1-3, but in a pinch, in the 4th quarter... it's Tebow Time!


I see you forgot to mention the shellacking the pats put on him the following week after he beat the Steelers. The steelers defense was arrogant in that game and played undisciplined that's why they were beat.

The pats stayed disciplined the following week and Tebow did nothing.

MS is a better player than Tebow.

[laxin]

Who says we aren't? We already signed Landry and OJ is scheduled to meet with the team. Its March not August. You're a joke.

Im a joke? Why. Because I would rather this team spend its time improving the team in other areas?

[sanchize]

Schefter said they read the contract. Agreed to the trade in principle and then got the contract to read from the way that I read it.

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[PinPointPenning10]

if the deal gets done, it would be a matter of time before tebow takes over our offense. sorry nacho but 5-6 batted down balls a game is too much for me.

That's too much for you? Have you seen Tebow play? :smile: