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[wexy]

God.... No

[Saint Chez]

Praying that Tebow signs somewhere else soon.. Don't want another media shitstorm like there was with Manning..

[Poeman]

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[NYJetsfan56]

Here we go with the anonymous sources again.

[Forum7200]

Praying that Tebow signs somewhere else soon.. Don't want another media shitstorm like there was with Manning..

Tebow is not signing anywhere, he is being traded meaning he has no choice in the matter

[laxin]

I dont care how much value he brings for wildcat or to the locker room, the amount of media attention this team would get would far outweigh all of it.

Imagine if the Jets lose 2 in a row and Sanchez plays somewhat below average, and then the whole media jumps on the Tebow bandwagon and causes a shit ton of problems... This would be a terrible move IMO.

The only way this move makes sense is if the FO comes out and addresses the media saying that Sanchez is the starting QB and that Tebow is strictly here for wildcat purposes.

[Mambo9]

I don't think there is any chance he is listed as anything other than the emergency QB if he comes here. (if they even have one of those anymore)

Oh please... wherever he is going, he's going as a QB. Everyone from players to media to fans will consider him a QB even if he's just a system QB.

[Don]

Hopefully we're just driving the price up for the Pats.

There is no price..a 5th might be a 4th? We will have 4th comp picks most likely.

[ace_o_spades]

This is fucking stupid.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

There is no price..a 5th might be a 4th? We will have 4th comp picks most likely.

What do you mean there is no price? If the Pats offer a 6th and no one else offers anything, they would probably get him for that offer. If they offer a 6th and we offer a 5th, they may have to offer a 5th and a 7th or something instead.

[xxedge72x]

Can someone explain why this is so potentially horrible?

He would come here as a role player. He shouldn't sniff the field as a QB and if he did that says a LOT about McElroy and Stanton (namely that they suck and we need to find new backup QBs).

I see so many people saying how awful this is however I see little in the way of reason (asides from pigeon holed thinking about Tebow being a standard QB).

Personally, I think the hate derives from his celebrity status.

[ace_o_spades]

What do you mean there is no price? If the Pats offer a 6th and no one else offers anything, they would probably get him for that offer. If they offer a 6th and we offer a 5th, they may have to offer a 5th and a 7th or something instead.

haha man...I'd rather the Jets invest their time and effort elsewhere

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Sanchez had the 2nd least amt of QB pressures of any QB that started all 16 games but he took sacks at an alarming rate of 23% of every time he is pressured. Which is more than double other QBs. He was ranked last in the league in perfomance when pressured. The reason is because he panics and gives up on plays when under pressure. I am not saying Tebow is a good QB just that he is a football player something Sanchez is not. He will take hits and try to make plays under pressure. Not the kind of guy Sanchez will want as a back-up as the comparisons between their toughness will be constantly drawn. It is much better for Sanchez and the Jets that he does not have a big media name as a back-up where the media and players will call for his benching.

If that's what you meant by pressure then I misunderstood you. Easily done when that term can be used in two ways.

I remember him handling pressure a lot better prior to losing his all-pro center and having him replaced with an UDFA rookie. I think that breakdown in the line really messed with his head this year and yes, he did poorly under pressure.

I would like to see these stats you're referring to. Where did you get them?

[Forum7200]

Is there any chance the Jets are thinking in addition to running the Wildcat he could be a 2nd tightend?

[LongTimeJetsFan]

haha man...I'd rather the Jets invest their time and effort elsewhere

Nothing wrong with spending a little time to make your divisional competition spend resources. I'd bet that's what the Pats did with Landry.

[101_GANG_GREEN_101]

He can come in and be an emergency QB / Wildcat QB right away, and he would be a positive influence on the locker-room and eventually a negative influence on the city and it's fans

were interested in every player in the NFL so I take it with a grain of salt

[deathstar]

This is fucking stupid.

Our failed head coach wants Tebow to run the wildcat...

Which was completely useless after everyone figured out how to defend it...

This is getting good...

My team is complete shit. I hope Tebow joins the Jets! :lol:

[JetBlue]

Brad Smith and Tebow aren't comparable in terms of locker room strife slash fans calling for him to takeover the QB job... No one ever believed Smith could be a full-time QB; at least Tebow has some support on that front.

if the fans are so stupid to call for Tebow if Sanchez has a bad game then we as fans deserve the repercussions of that if it creates strife.

[stinkyB]

Sanchez had the 2nd least amt of QB pressures of any QB that started all 16 games but he took sacks at an alarming rate of 23% of every time he is pressured. Which is more than double other QBs. He was ranked last in the league in perfomance when pressured. The reason is because he panics and gives up on plays when under pressure.................................
It is much better for Sanchez and the Jets that he does not have a big media name as a back-up where the media and players will call for his benching.

or that when Wayne Hunter got beat, he barely touched the guy, and Sanchez got drilled.... quickly. I'm not into stats, and I also think Sanchez needs alot of improvement (regressed this year, bigtime, despite all the #s) but I know what I see.

The 2nd part I agree with. Tebow coming to this team is a disaster waiting to happen. Backing up Mike Vick makes much more sense to me (unless Sahid Khan cares more about a sold out stadium, than developing his 1st rd QB draft pick..... which I would understand)

[Barcs]

Sanchez had the 2nd least amt of QB pressures of any QB that started all 16 games but he took sacks at an alarming rate of 23% of every time he is pressured. Which is more than double other QBs. He was ranked last in the league in perfomance when pressured. The reason is because he panics and gives up on plays when under pressure. I am not saying Tebow is a good QB just that he is a football player something Sanchez is not. He will take hits and try to make plays under pressure. Not the kind of guy Sanchez will want as a back-up as the comparisons between their toughness will be constantly drawn. It is much better for Sanchez and the Jets that he does not have a big media name as a back-up where the media and players will call for his benching.

Can't believe I'm reading this jibberish. If you actually WATCH the games, Sanchez takes a beating every time. The guy is a warrior and a winner, regardless of his struggles late last season. Sanchez was like a 1/4 inch short of the goal line in the Raiders game, that would have changed everything. The guy puts it all on the line, he's not a softie. Nobody's open, he'll run the thing into the endzone himself. He's got heart. He did screw up a bunch of times, I won't deny it, but he did escape a good amount of sacks as well, but he is never given credit for it. The whole offense was a mess this year, not just him. How many players on offense in 2011 improved their stats in most categories over 2010? I can name 2. Mark Sanchez and Shonn Greene. But so many people think these are the areas we need to address.

[Poeman]

Tebow is the perfect check down player...For Mark to pass to

[Don]

What do you mean there is no price? If the Pats offer a 6th and no one else offers anything, they would probably get him for that offer. If they offer a 6th and we offer a 5th, they may have to offer a 5th and a 7th or something instead.

Look at what you are talking about. 5th, 6th, 7th...that is nothing..it is less than nothing..it's almost comical to talk about a 5th round pick for somebody who would sell seats even here..if Sanchez is so fragile that it would make him cryu then he really shouldn't be playing in the NFL to begin with.

[JetsFan]

Tebow is worth a 3rd round pick, just for the fans, character and physical ability.

How many players in the 3rd round even start, yet he is a proven winner. Whether you like him or not, he could do a lot for us at a cheap price.

Best of all you could always trade him later and get your pick back, waybe even more. Any owner who does see the upside for his team and the money he brings at the super low contract of only a $1M per year is plain stupid.

We don't need him, but at the right price you can't not want him.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

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Breaking: Fasten your seat belts folk. Per ESPN's Chris Mortensen, Tebow is expected to be traded within 24 to 48 hours. #Jets

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Source told me Sparano is "in love" with the idea of having Tebow run the wildcat.

[CJLang]

What do you mean there is no price? If the Pats offer a 6th and no one else offers anything, they would probably get him for that offer. If they offer a 6th and we offer a 5th, they may have to offer a 5th and a 7th or something instead.

Or the Pats just let the Jets have him.

I haven't seen anything today that suggests the Pats are involved in any of these trade talks anyway.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Look at what you are talking about. 5th, 6th, 7th...that is nothing..it is less than nothing..it's almost comical to talk about a 5th round pick for somebody who would sell seats even here..if Sanchez is so fragile that it would make him cryu then he really shouldn't be playing in the NFL to begin with.

So what you're saying is that something is really less than nothing. :sad:

[reverseapachemaster]

say he sucks all he wants but 3835 yards and 32 TDs is worth a 6th round pick even if it is to change him to running back.

By that logic we might as well pay to get him to plug RT.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Or the Pats just let the Jets have him.

I haven't seen anything today that suggests the Pats are involved in any of these trade talks anyway.

There's been speculation. McDaniels being the guy that drafted him helps burn the fire.

[Saint Chez]

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Breaking: Fasten your seat belts folk. Per ESPN's Chris Mortensen, Tebow is expected to be traded within 24 to 48 hours. #Jets

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Source told me Sparano is "in love" with the idea of having Tebow run the wildcat.

Please tell me those arent real! Kill me now!

[CJLang]

if the fans are so stupid to call for Tebow if Sanchez has a bad game then we as fans deserve the repercussions of that if it creates strife.

You can bet you ass if Tebow becomes a Jet and they start slow, there will be folks screaming for him to replace Sanchez. Remember the folks who cheered Pennington getting injured?

It's not just NY or Jets fans, that's just the way it is.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Please tell me those arent real! Kill me now!

I'm not joking this time.

[74Mangold]

Can anybody tell me why we're trying to get a wildcat quarterback with no extra available money when we just signed a backup quarterback and we have a guy on the team named Jeremy Kerley?

[deathstar]

I still can't believe you hired Tony as your OC...

You are gonna see how bad his offensive style has become.

[RKO]

Tebow on the Jets would be awkward to say the least, I can see it now. Sanchez throws a pick six to lose a game and the Crowd starts a chant....

T-E-B-O-W

TEBOW! TEBOW TEBOW!

oh the horror...

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Can anybody tell me why we're trying to get a wildcat quarterback with no extra available money when we just signed a backup quarterback and we have a guy on the team named Jeremy Kerley?

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[Noam]

If that's what you meant by pressure then I misunderstood you. Easily done when that term can be used in two ways.

I remember him handling pressure a lot better prior to losing his all-pro center and having him replaced with an UDFA rookie. I think that breakdown in the line really messed with his head this year and yes, he did poorly under pressure.

I would like to see these stats you're referring to. Where did you get them?

You can see total pressures in the 1st link. The only QB who started all 16 games who was pressured less was Fitzpatrick. While the 1st link solely deals with QBs under pressure The 2nd link only briefly discusses QB under pressure in terms of QBR but deals more with overall effectiveness.

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[Phear]

Here's the problem with us bringing in tebow. Our team represents NY, the NY media, after the way last season ended, can u imagine when Sanchez has one bad game? This city will fucking riot to have tebow step in and start. This has cluster fuck circus written all over it. If we get tebow, our current QB, HC, and GM may very well find themselves working for new teams come 2013.

[CJLang]

I still can't believe you hired Tony as your OC...

You are gonna see how bad his offensive style has become.

On the plus side, he's not Shotty

[ace_o_spades]

Not for nothing...but Sanchez can avoid all this nonsense by playing well instead of fucking up. Just sayin..

Tebow fucking blows though, I hate this.

[JetBlue]

if we get Tebow and God still hates the Jets, you know he is a real sonofabitch for sure.

[Barcs]

Haha Cromartie just tweeted this! I agree.

"We don't need Tebow. We sell out every home game let him go to Jacksonville Tampa or Miami. Our wildcat offense can b ran by J. Kerley or Joe McKnight we straight"

[CBG]

You can bet you ass if Tebow becomes a Jet and they start slow, there will be folks screaming for him to replace Sanchez. Remember the folks who cheered Pennington getting injured?

It's not just NY or Jets fans, that's just the way it is.

This post is so true ! Can you imagine if Sanchez starts slow ? Sanchez had a hissy fit when Brunnell took reps in practice------Tebow coming here is a very very bad idea----if he can play RT or OLB sign him now otherwise---I hate the thought

[Rawrk]

there is no logic when it comes to tebowmania.

TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW!

[JetsFan]

Tebow would give Mark motivation. Good players need competition to become great, and Mark would have someone to push him.

[Jake]

Cromartie knows what's up.

[RKO]

Can anybody anywhere find a tweet that has us as out of the whole Tebow-tradeamania, PLEASE!

[KurtTheJetsFan]

Let me preface this by saying that assuming this is NOT to replace Sanchez & become the starting QB I think this might be a good move.

I think Tebow could be a Brad Smith type but leaning more towards being a power guy than so finesse. He'd be perfect for the wildcat that Sparano loves & it would give the O another tool in the arsenal.The Jets really missed those 3-4 big plays Smith seemed to make every game. Tebow is that type of player.

Additionally, Tebow would play a big part in repairing the locker room.

If he comes as a "slash" player, & he doesn't cost more than a 4th, sign me up.

[JetBlue]

Tebow would give Mark motivation. Good players need competition to become great, and Mark would have someone to push him.

if Tebow is actually legit competition for Sanchez we are in big f'ing trouble to begin with.

[Don]

So what you're saying is that something is really less than nothing. :sad:

I can't think of many 5th, 6th or 7th round picks that Tannenbaum has made that actually see much playing time..I'm sure there must be somebody but with his record of drafting over the last 4 years I think using one of those picks on Tebow would definitely equate to costing us nothing..what we would get with Tannenbaum's pick.

[xxedge72x]

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Details show Tim Tebow's contract worth $9.7 million
Posted: 08/03/2010 09:34:32 AM MDT
Updated: 08/03/2010 12:04:05 PM MDT
Mike Klis
The Denver Post

The contract details on Broncos rookie quarterback Tim Tebow show his five-year deal really is worth $9.7125 million, not the $11.25 million the industry reports, according to a union source.

The difference is a one-time playing time bonus of $1.5375 million that the Players Association counts because it's "easy to earn." Almost all first rounders hit the one-time playing bonus, but Jarvis Moss and Brady Quinn from the 2007 draft are among those who have yet to hit their one-timers.

Tebow will be well on his way to his first NFL million on Friday, when the Broncos pay him a $975,000 advance, which essentially will be counted as a signing bonus for prorated salary cap reasons.

Some details on the Tebow deal:

Base salary

2010: $1.295 million (fully guaranteed)

2011: $1.618.75 million (fully guaranteed)

2012: $1.942.5 million (fully guaranteed)

2013: $2.266.75 million (fully guaranteed)

2014: $2.590.5 million ($567,500 guaranteed)

Advance/Signing bonus

$975,000 on Friday (salary reduced to $325,000)

$6.275 million due 29 days after start of 2011 league year. Typically season starts March 1, but it's written this way in case work stoppage delays start of season. (Salaries from 2011-14 reduced to offset advance)

One-time playing time bonus (contractually considered likely to be earned)

Tebow collects $1.537.5 million if he plays 35 percent of the offensive snaps in 2010, or 45 percent of the snaps in any of the seasons 2011-14. The bonus rolls over from year to year until Tebow reaches the playing-time threshold, and expires the first time he hits it.

Mid-tier incentives (Contractually considered unlikely to earn)

Value of Tebow's contract doubles from $11.25 million (including one-time playing time bonus) to $22.5 million if he reaches multiple thresholds, including:

55 percent playing time in two of his first three seasons, 2010-12, or 70 percent playing time in 2013.

The Broncos make the playoffs, he reaches certain QB ranking thresholds, and receives unspecified honors.

Max value (contractually considered unlikely to earn)

The total value of Tebow's contract can escalate to $33 million if the Broncos reach the playoffs multiple times in his first four years, he has multiple top 5 QB rankings, and he has multiple league honors such as NFL MVP and Super Bowl MVP.

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[Don]

if Tebow is actually legit competition for Sanchez we are in big f'ing trouble to begin with.

He wouldn't be brought here to compete with Sanchez..we have already named our backup QB (who also won't compete)..competition went out the window when they gave him that ridiculous extension..Tebow woucd be brought in to be a niche player.

[MyFavoriteMartin]

Here's the problem with us bringing in tebow. Our team represents NY, the NY media, after the way last season ended, can u imagine when Sanchez has one bad game? This city will fucking riot to have tebow step in and start. This has cluster fuck circus written all over it. If we get tebow, our current QB, HC, and GM may very well find themselves working for new teams come 2013.

This. Times a million. This is exactly why they won't trade for him. They just signed Sanchez to a brand spankin' new contract. The coaches and front office don't want to be in the situation where sanchez has a bad first half/first game, and the crowd is cheering for Tebow to be put in, and pressure builds over several weeks to start Tebow, but they don't want to because they just gave Marky a bunch of fucking money. If Jets get Tebow, it would be the most shocking move I will have ever seen in sports

[dcm1602]

Anyone know how the Broncos MLB situation looks ? Any chance they CANT WAIT for us to offer them bart scott?

[ace_o_spades]

I can't think of many 5th, 6th or 7th round picks that Tannenbaum has made that actually see much playing time..I'm sure there must be somebody but with his record of drafting over the last 4 years I think using one of those picks on Tebow would definitely equate to costing us nothing..what we would get with Tannenbaum's pick.

Jeremy Kerley - 5th round - expected to be the Jets slot WR in 2012

Matt Slauson - 6th round - expected to be the Jets LG in 2012

John Conner - 5th round - expected to be the Jets starting FB in 2012

Not many but those are 3 guys who will see a lot of playing time in 2012.

[Carpetbagger]

Let me preface this by saying that assuming this is NOT to replace Sanchez & become the starting QB I think this might be a good move.

I think Tebow could be a Brad Smith type but leaning more towards being a power guy than so finesse. He'd be perfect for the wildcat that Sparano loves & it would give the O another tool in the arsenal.The Jets really missed those 3-4 big plays Smith seemed to make every game. Tebow is that type of player.

Additionally, Tebow would play a big part in repairing the locker room.

If he comes as a "slash" player, & he doesn't cost more than a 4th, sign me up.

This. I completely agree. Say what you want about Tebow, but his teammates love him and he is a leader. Sanchez could become motivated by it, as well.

[Cakes]

Tebow would give Mark motivation. Good players need competition to become great, and Mark would have someone to push him.It is not necessary. If Sanchez is self motivated, then he can have Drew Stanton, Tim Tebow or Peyton Manning behind him and it won't make him play any better or worse.

[raortega3]

The fact of the matter is, although this move might not hurt us and add a dimension to the team that we may not have (it would do that for most teams), it would do very little to help us. In other words - why?

[xxedge72x]

Anyone know how the Broncos MLB situation looks ? Any chance they CANT WAIT for us to offer them bart scott?

Depth chart currently has Nate Irving listed as the starter.

[xxedge72x]

The fact of the matter is, although this move might not hurt us and add a dimension to the team that we may not have (it would do that for most teams), it would do very little to help us. In other words - why?

What's your evidence that it would do very little to help us? Did Brad Smith do very little to help us?

[LongTimeJetsFan]

I can't think of many 5th, 6th or 7th round picks that Tannenbaum has made that actually see much playing time..I'm sure there must be somebody but with his record of drafting over the last 4 years I think using one of those picks on Tebow would definitely equate to costing us nothing..what we would get with Tannenbaum's pick.

2011: 5th, Jeremy Kerley - Slot guy
2010: 5th, John Conner - Starter
2009: 6th, Matt Slauson - Starter
2007: 7th, Chansi Stuckey - Was a starter for us, used to trade for Edwards
2006: 6th, Drew Coleman - Was a role player/Dime back

We completely whiffed on 6 guys.
2011: Scotty McKnight, 7th
2008: Erik Ainge, 5th, Marcus Henry 6th, Nate Garner 7th
2007: Jacob Bender, 6th
2006: Titus Adams, 7th

Up in the air on McElroy in 2011 as a 7th.

But really, that's beside the point. I was suggesting that maybe we were running the price up for a divisional rival, so it would be them paying the price - not us.

[Mambo9]

what's your evidence that it would do very little to help us? Did brad smith do very little to help us?

yes

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[Barry the Baptist]

Haha Cromartie just tweeted this! I agree.

"We don't need Tebow. We sell out every home game let him go to Jacksonville Tampa or Miami. Our wildcat offense can b ran by J. Kerley or Joe McKnight we straight"

Cromartie knows he's gonna be read the gospel for having a Shawn Kemp like record with the ladies and children. This has disaster written all over it.

[ace_o_spades]

Cromartie knows he's gonna be read the gospel for having a Shawn Kemp like record with the ladies and children. This has disaster written all over it.

Funny thing is I think he actually quotes Bible verses and other silly Jesus related things on his twitter.

[colleen74]

If this happens I will never enter a game day thread again.

[MarkyMark]

This. I completely agree. Say what you want about Tebow, but his teammates love him and he is a leader. Sanchez could become motivated by it, as well.

I get this and understand the logic behind it, but what if Sanchez has one bad game? Can you imagine the media circus that would ensue? It would be horrific. This team can't stand another sideshow.

[ScotsJet]

I get this and understand the logic behind it, but what if Sanchez has one bad game? Can you imagine the media circus that would ensue? It would be horrific. This team can't stand another sideshow.

You say that as though without Tebow folks would go easy on Mark. If he struggles people are going to go nuts whether Tim Tebow is a Jet or not.

He's essentially a better version of what Brad Smith was in our offense. I like it very much.

[Cakes]

Cromartie knows he's gonna be read the gospel for having a Shawn Kemp like record with the ladies and children. This has disaster written all over it.

He reads it on his own anyway.

[dcm1602]

Depth chart currently has Nate Irving listed as the starter.

4 career tackles...


Please oh please have Scott involed in any tebow trade.

Scott and a 6th for tebow !

[SufferingJetsFan]

I get this and understand the logic behind it, but what if Sanchez has one bad game? Can you imagine the media circus that would ensue? It would be horrific. This team can't stand another sideshow.

This is why Tebow cannot come here. Sanchez is not a top level QB yet, so at least a few bad games are to be expected. The media frenzy between Tebow lovers and anti-Sanchez fans would be astronomical.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

4 career tackles...


Please oh please have Scott involed in any tebow trade.

Scott and a 6th for tebow !

That would actually make some sense if they could get his salary off the books. Pickup some cap space and add a unique offensive weapon that our OC will be creative with. I can maybe possibly after a couple six drinks buy into that.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

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Broncos need ILB with DJ Williams suspended, right? Package Bart Scott into that trade offer ... #thinkingoutloud

[CJLang]

You say that as though without Tebow folks would go easy on Mark. If he struggles people are going to go nuts whether Tim Tebow is a Jet or not.

He's essentially a better version of what Brad Smith was in our offense. I like it very much.

They won't be chanting for Drew Stanton...

[milcus]

I love how people dismiss Tebow as a qb. The guy was a first round pick. He has skill and can beat Sanchez out with a competition. His weakness, accuracy, is really no worse than Sanchez.

I actually love this move. Best case scenario, he beats out Sanchez and we have a qb who is personable and likable. Worst case scenario, he runs 5-10 wildcat plays per game and the Jets get a qb next year.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

They won't be chanting for Drew Stanton...

I will be!

[JetsFan]

If Tebow becomes a Jet, he would have a shot at top Jersey sales yet again.

Who would get more press, Manning in Denver or Tebow in New York?

We all know the answer...

[VanderbiltJets]

Can someone explain why this is so potentially horrible?

He would come here as a role player. He shouldn't sniff the field as a QB and if he did that says a LOT about McElroy and Stanton (namely that they suck and we need to find new backup QBs).

I see so many people saying how awful this is however I see little in the way of reason (asides from pigeon holed thinking about Tebow being a standard QB).

Personally, I think the hate derives from his celebrity status.

Tebow WOULD come in as a role player but it's impossible to convince the media and some fans that he's just a role player. Personally, I think the negative attention that the Jets would inevitably receive and cannot deal with derives from his celebrity status.

Add in his cap number ($3.142 million including $1.1 million in base salary) and I'd much rather have:

Stewart
BJGE
a Right Tackle
another Safety
an OLB
Depth at virtually every other position

over Tebow.

At this point, Tebow would be a luxury for the Jets, and I don't think they can afford the luxury (especially if it would cost anything more than a 6th OR 7th round pick).

[dcm1602]

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Broncos need ILB with DJ Williams suspended, right? Package Bart Scott into that trade offer ... #thinkingoutloud

[CJLang]

Tebow WOULD come in as a role player but it's impossible to convince the media and some fans that he's just a role player. Personally, I think the negative attention that the Jets would inevitably receive and cannot deal with derives from his celebrity status.

Add in his cap number ($3.142 million including $1.1 million in base salary) and I'd much rather have:

Stewart
BJGE
a Right Tackle
another Safety
an OLB
Depth at virtually every other position

over Tebow.

At this point, Tebow would be a luxury for the Jets, and I don't think they can afford the luxury (especially if it would cost anything more than a 6th OR 7th round pick).

Are you sure about that cap number? That's his Bronco cap number with signing bonus added in. I believe the Broncos are on the hook for that part of the hit.

[reverseapachemaster]

Tebow WOULD come in as a role player but it's impossible to convince the media and some fans that he's just a role player. Personally, I think the negative attention that the Jets would inevitably receive and cannot deal with derives from his celebrity status.

I could easily see some in the media saying Tebow is placed as a role player because the Jets FO is anti-Tebow. It wouldn't make sense but some people toss out all logic when it comes to Tebow. Maybe Santorum could call it a national crisis of faith.

[SufferingJetsFan]

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Broncos need ILB with DJ Williams suspended, right? Package Bart Scott into that trade offer ... #thinkingoutloud

Shut the hell up Jenny Vrentas!!!!!!!!

[dcm1602]

If Tebow becomes a Jet, he would have a shot at top Jersey sales yet again.

Who would get more press, Manning in Denver or Tebow in New York?

We all know the answer...

It would make picking out the bandwagoners easier.

No self respecting jets fan should own a tebow jersey

[CJLang]

I could easily see some in the media saying Tebow is placed as a role player because the Jets FO is anti-Tebow. It wouldn't make sense but some people toss out all logic when it comes to Tebow. Maybe Santorum could call it a national crisis of faith.

Not sure how the Jets FO could be anti-Tebow while trying to trade for him?

[CowboysFan]

Tebow has never had a losing record as a starting QB at any level. The guy can play, forget the media (you guys in New York worried about media? really?... you ARE the media).

He could push Sanchez into becoming who he really is good or bad.



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[xxedge72x]

Media is so overrated.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Tebow WOULD come in as a role player but it's impossible to convince the media and some fans that he's just a role player. Personally, I think the negative attention that the Jets would inevitably receive and cannot deal with derives from his celebrity status.

Add in his cap number ($3.142 million including $1.1 million in base salary) and I'd much rather have:

Stewart
BJGE
a Right Tackle
another Safety
an OLB
Depth at virtually every other position

over Tebow.

At this point, Tebow would be a luxury for the Jets, and I don't think they can afford the luxury (especially if it would cost anything more than a 6th OR 7th round pick).
His cap number is less than $2 million and if a trade included Bart Scott that would clear more than $2 million in cap space for us. I believe it would save us almost $6 million in cap space (could be wrong).

[CJLang]

It would make picking out the bandwagoners easier.

No self respecting jets fan should own a tebow jersey

Unless he wins some games for them.

[VanderbiltJets]

The guy was a first round pick.

Gholston was a first round pick. A top ten first round pick at that. Furthermore, Tebow was only a first round pick because Josh McDaniels is an idiot and reached for him in the draft.

He has skill and can beat Sanchez out with a competition. His weakness, accuracy, is really no worse than Sanchez.
So we should pay Sanchez to sit on the bench on top of the (whatever amount of money it is) that Tebow is due?


I actually love this move. Best case scenario, he beats out Sanchez and we have a qb who is personable and likable.
The caveat to this is the Jets having the highest paid backup QB in the league.


Worst case scenario, he runs 5-10 wildcat plays per game and the Jets get a qb next year.

You're really, really underselling the worst-case scenario. Worst-case scenario is that Tebow and Sanchez become by far the most talked about athletes in the media. The Jets go on a losing streak (maybe even just one loss) and Sanchez begins to feel the palpable pressure suffocating him. His performance declines. Tebow is inserted into the starting spot midway through the season. Tebow realizes that, without a stellar defense AND a kicker that can consistently hit 50+ yard field goals in crunch time, he cannot lead his team to the playoffs. The media starts criticizing the Jets for giving Sanchez a contract extension and then benching him. The Jets miss the playoffs. Rex Ryan and Tanny are fired. The Jets begin rebuilding.

[laxin]

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If I were Sparano, I would much rather trade for Jonathan Stewart... Its not even close how much of an impact they would make on offense.

[CowboysFan]

if Tebow ever gets in he will win the game sosmehow, the guy has NEVER had a losing record in the NFL
stop with the defense and kicking bailing him out crap.

LOOK HERE

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[laxin]

Gholston was a first round pick. A top ten first round pick at that. Furthermore, Tebow was only a first round pick because Josh McDaniels is an idiot and reached for him in the draft.


So we should pay Sanchez to sit on the bench on top of the 3+ million Tebow is due?


The caveat to this is the Jets having the highest paid backup QB in the league.



You're really, really underselling the worst-case scenario. Worst-case scenario is that Tebow and Sanchez become by far the most talked about athletes in the media. The Jets go on a losing streak (maybe even just one loss) and Sanchez begins to feel the palpable pressure suffocating him. His performance declines. Tebow is inserted into the starting spot midway through the season. Tebow realizes that, without a stellar defense AND a kicker that can hit 50+ yard field goals, he cannot lead his team to the playoffs. The media starts criticizing the Jets for giving Sanchez a contract extension and then benching him. The Jets miss the playoffs. Rex Ryan and Tanny are fired. The Jets begin rebuilding.

Dont try and reason with him, its pointless.

[dcm1602]

His cap number is less than $2 million and if a trade included Bart Scott that would clear more than $2 million in cap space for us. I believe it would save us almost $6 million in cap space (could be wrong).

Scott and a 6th out, Tebow and McClain (fa) in. Sounds like we easily win out on that trade

And both teams benefit pretty clearly

[VanderbiltJets]

if Tebow ever gets in he will win the game sosmehow, the guy has NEVER had a losing record in the NFL
stop with the defense and kicking bailing him out crap.

LOOK HERE

Here you go 7-24 WORST TEAM IN THE NFL IN 31 GAMES BEFORE TEBOW (DENVER BRONCOS )

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4-12 2010

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[DirtySanchez]

Cro finally figured out
What abortions are so
He doesnt want tebow around

Cro should look at the bright side

Free circumcisions for his brood

I have no idea what to make of this.

Was this a complete failure at a haiku?

No i just fat fingered the enter key on my phone twice so i rolled with it. Figured it must have been Tebow's will

[VanderbiltJets]

Scott and a 6th out, Tebow and McClain (fa) in. Sounds like we easily win out on that trade

And both teams benefit pretty clearly

Why would Denver do that, and why wouldn't Denver benefit more from having a backup QB ready to play in case their 4+ neck surgeries newcomer isn't healthy?

[JetBlue]

If I were Sparano, I would much rather trade for Jonathan Stewart... Its not even close how much of an impact they would make on offense.

of course he would, but that really isn't relevant to the discussion. he'd probably also prefer to trade for Adrian Peterson, but are you going to get either one for as cheap as Tebow, nevertheless with the possibility of having them take on Scott's contract for the year?

[SufferingJetsFan]

Despite what the Sunshiners think, the locker room has enough problems. We don't need a bad 2 game streak from Sanchez where the fans and locker room start to clamor for Tebow.

The pressure would be massive on the coach and front office to get him in games. Why else would Elway be so desperate to trade a QB that won the division (despite 8-8) and a playoff game?

[VanderbiltJets]

Dont try and reason with him, its pointless.

lol. When it's really easy I can't resist. (twss?)

[milcus]

Gholston was a first round pick. A top ten first round pick at that. Furthermore, Tebow was only a first round pick because Josh McDaniels is an idiot and reached for him in the draft.

Tebow had a great college career. He would have been an early 2nd round pick if not a late 1st rounder.

And Tebow has shown he can play and be productive in the NFL. Ghost just sucked.

So we should pay Sanchez to sit on the bench on top of the 3+ million Tebow is due?

If Tebow can beat him out, I couldn't care less what happens to Sanchez. In fact, if he beats him out, I will go out and buy season tickets within the hour.


The caveat to this is the Jets having the highest paid backup QB in the league.

Again, you play the best guy you have. If it's Tebow, Sanchez needs to collect splinters.

You're really, really underselling the worst-case scenario. Worst-case scenario is that Tebow and Sanchez become by far the most talked about athletes in the media. The Jets go on a losing streak (maybe even just one loss) and Sanchez begins to feel the palpable pressure suffocating him. His performance declines. Tebow is inserted into the starting spot midway through the season. Tebow realizes that, without a stellar defense AND a kicker that can hit 50+ yard field goals, he cannot lead his team to the playoffs. The media starts criticizing the Jets for giving Sanchez a contract extension and then benching him. The Jets miss the playoffs. Rex Ryan and Tanny are fired. The Jets begin rebuilding.

If Sanchez cant handle competition, I have no sympathy for him. And, I think the chances of what you are saying are greater if Sanchez is not pushed than if he is.

Also, I dont get why people assume Tebow wont get better. I saw him make some nice throws last year. He is also decent at reading defenses. Not sure why people think he wont get it and become a good NFL qb. He has a high football iq, decent arm, makes good decisions, and is a winner. I agree with McDaniels - I think he can be a legit NFL qb.

[VanderbiltJets]

Are you sure about that cap number? That's his Bronco cap number with signing bonus added in. I believe the Broncos are on the hook for that part of the hit.

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Could be wrong, could be right. All I know is I just copied it.

[DirtySanchez]

That would actually make some sense if they could get his salary off the books. Pickup some cap space and add a unique offensive weapon that our OC will be creative with. I can maybe possibly after a couple six drinks buy into that.

If they can dump Scott's salary it makes a whole bunch of sense.

[VanderbiltJets]

I could easily see some in the media saying Tebow is placed as a role player because the Jets FO is anti-Tebow. It wouldn't make sense but some people toss out all logic when it comes to Tebow. Maybe Santorum could call it a national crisis of faith.

When it comes to Tebow, nothing is impossible (both on and off the field)... Except non-Christian activities I guess.

[reverseapachemaster]

Not sure how the Jets FO could be anti-Tebow while trying to trade for him?

That's my point.

[VanderbiltJets]

if the fans are so stupid to call for Tebow if Sanchez has a bad game then we as fans deserve the repercussions of that if it creates strife.

I'd argue that it is the responsibility of the FO to know the pulse of their fans and to know when such a shitstorm is possible months in advance.

[VanderbiltJets]

Does anyone really believe McKnight or Kerley would be more effective than Tebow at doing this?

To me that statement assumes we need wildcat plays.

[CJLang]

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Could be wrong, could be right. All I know is I just copied it.

That's his cap number for Denver. If they trade him the signing money they paid him last year that they amortized over the life of the contract stays on their cap. Only his base salary leaves if he is traded.

I believe this is correct, but I'm sure we'll find out.

[laxin]

of course he would, but that really isn't relevant to the discussion. he'd probably also prefer to trade for Adrian Peterson, but are you going to get either one for as cheap as Tebow, nevertheless with the possibility of having them take on Scott's contract for the year?

Well Im pretty sure theres a lot of speculation around Stewart being on the trading block, so comparing that to AP is just wrong.

And the whole idea of the Broncos wanting Scott and his contract is something a sports writer brought up and said “thinking out loud”

Also, it would take a 5th or 4th for Tebow, most likely a 5th, and probably a 3rd for Stewart... and his cap hit is as low, or lower than Tebow’s this year (1.5 mil)

[xxedge72x]

To me that statement assumes we need wildcat plays.

Why not use it if available? It's something Sparano coaches well - more weapons is only a good thing.

[94Abraham]

Probably best to stay away from Tebow because he would surely beat out Sanchez for the starting QB job.

[DbaJets]

Ok this is definitely ban worthy. What a stupid stupid idea

OK, so we're banning people for bad ideas? Then ban this whole board for rooting for the Jets...that's been a pretty stupid idea for 40 or so years too.

This is a forum when we discuss opinions, hypotheticals, potential moves, how much Sanchez blows, and about cheerleader's titties. If you're not into that, go play bingo or something.

[Barry the Baptist]

Why would Denver do that, and why wouldn't Denver benefit more from having a backup QB ready to play in case their 4+ neck surgeries newcomer isn't healthy?

Because it gives Elway an out, he hates having Tebow as his QB, by trading him away and leaving Quinn or another real QB as his backup he can eliminate the issue of having to draft a real QB to replace Tebow without having to bench him. Now he can draft a a guy he wants to be QB when Manning is no longer the guy and because Tebow will be gone he won't have to answer to anybody regarding benching Tebow in favor of his guy when that day comes.

[MarkyMark]

You say that as though without Tebow folks would go easy on Mark. If he struggles people are going to go nuts whether Tim Tebow is a Jet or not.

He's essentially a better version of what Brad Smith was in our offense. I like it very much.

You can't possibly compare NY killing Sanchez and wanting Stanton to come in vs. NY killing Sanchez and wanting Tebow to come in.

[evojoe67]

You know what, I changed my mind.Why not bring Tebow to the Jets?

1-The guy's a great role model and as a season ticket holder with a young son I would'nt mind my son idolizing someone like him

2-The kid's a winner.
Everywhere he's been he's been successful

3-His image and locker room presence would be invaluable this team,especially the way we're looked at in the media

4-He's a good athlete and AS LONG AS HE's NOT OUR QB WHO GIVES A RATS ASS?

5- And this should have been #1-WOODY WANTS TO SELL PSL'S!!!!
How many more season tickets could Tebow sell?

FLAME ON !

[JetBlue]

I'd argue that it is the responsibility of the FO to know the pulse of their fans and to know when such a shitstorm is possible months in advance.

of course, but that is completely separate from the fans getting what they deserve.

[laxin]

Tebow had a great college career. He would have been an early 2nd round pick if not a late 1st rounder.

And Tebow has shown he can play and be productive in the NFL. Ghost just sucked.



If Tebow can beat him out, I couldn't care less what happens to Sanchez. In fact, if he beats him out, I will go out and buy season tickets within the hour.




Again, you play the best guy you have. If it's Tebow, Sanchez needs to collect splinters.



If Sanchez cant handle competition, I have no sympathy for him. And, I think the chances of what you are saying are greater if Sanchez is not pushed than if he is.

Also, I dont get why people assume Tebow wont get better. I saw him make some nice throws last year. He is also decent at reading defenses. Not sure why people think he wont get it and become a good NFL qb. He has a high football iq, decent arm, makes good decisions, and is a winner. I agree with McDaniels - I think he can be a legit NFL qb.

You honestly must have something against Sanchez, who is this teams QB. He may not be your ideal QB, but he’s the starting QB for the NY Jets. I think its time you’ve gotten over this.

And the fact that you would buy season tickets just to see another QB play other than Sanchez is just sad. Did he do something to you in the past thats left u so bitter? That you take it so personally?

Also, you sit there and defend every other QB besides who is actually on the team. You say Tebow can be an NFL QB, while you wish Sanchez was making tacos. Its sad that you have more confidence in Tebow becoming a “legit NFL QB" than Sanchez...

[dcm1602]

Why would Denver do that, and why wouldn't Denver benefit more from having a backup QB ready to play in case their 4+ neck surgeries newcomer isn't healthy?

Because having a MLB is important too, and theirs is suspended for roids. Plus they decided they have to get rid of Tebow asap, and might not be a ton of suiters. So dunno what other options theyll get

[JetsFan]

Just because the Dolphins might want him is enough reason to trade for him.

Add in the fact if we could add Scott in the deal we would end up gaining cap room.

Denver has the space to take the the cap hit, they need a MLB and Devner's FO does not care for how Miami was last your in the attempt to trade Orton who they ended up just cutting.

Make the trade, sell the Jerseys, sell the PSLs and get the New York media in a whirlwind.

[VanderbiltJets]

Why not use it if available? It's something Sparano coaches well - more weapons is only a good thing.

For who we already have on the roster, yes, we should use them in the wildcat if it works. But for who we may trade for I don't consider those players "why not use if available?"

[VanderbiltJets]

Because having a MLB is important too, and theirs is suspended for roids. Plus they decided they have to get rid of Tebow asap, and might not be a ton of suiters. So dunno what other options theyll get

I meant moreso why would they give up McClain. They have no incentive to do so

[Royce Parker]

Tebow in a Jets uniform would make me ill.

[CowboysFan]

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[LongTimeJetsFan]

(includes 2 post season starts)
Total Yards: 3835
Passing : 2885
Rushing: 950
Total TDs : 32
Interceptions: 9
Fumbles lost: 7
Completion percentage: 47.3%
QB rating: 78.1 (includes post season)



say he sucks all he wants but 3835 yards and 32 TDs is worth a 6th round pick even if it is to change him to running back

Ok, stop repeatedly posting duplicate posts or it will result in a ban for spamming the board.

[Jake]

(includes 2 post season starts)
Total Yards: 3835
Passing : 2885
Rushing: 950
Total TDs : 32
Interceptions: 9
Fumbles lost: 7
Completion percentage: 47.3%
QB rating: 78.1 (includes post season)



say he sucks all he wants but 3835 yards and 32 TDs is worth a 6th round pick even if it is to change him to running back

Ok but the fan base [most of it] doesn't want the media headache it will create. Sure he could be a productive player in the Wildcat, sure he's a good guy, but why is he going to all of a sudden make our locker room closer? I think if anything the media backlash of last year has already made the team closer. Cromartie is already tweeting against this move. PASS.

[xxedge72x]

For who we already have on the roster, yes, we should use them in the wildcat if it works. But for who we may trade for I don't consider those players "why not use if available?"

The whole point of acquiring players is to upgrade the weapons you already have. Tebow would perform the Wildcat role better than anyone currently on the roster and *gasp* provide a passing threat out of that formation as well.

It may not be popular but its something the Jets do. No point in holding back on running it to the best of our ability.

If Tannenbaum felt that Tebow's cap hit would prohibit the Jets from filling more pressing needs he wouldn't pursue this angle. Clearly the Jets feel he can be asset.

[CowboysFan]

You know what I have a guarantee why the Cowboys , Jets and Miami WOULD NOT pick up Tebow...you know why?

Losers lose.

Losers like my Boys, Jets and Miami Lose (or they have gotten use to it year after year after year) so they probably would not do it.

I bet the Patriots end up with him. I cant wait to see the league against Brady, Gronk, Hernandez , Welker , Lloyd and Tebow at H-back all on the field at the same time.

Fight the staus quo guys while you still have a chance , I wish Jerry would not be a drunk and pick up Tebow. Cowboys have no chance, you guys still do.

[VanderbiltJets]

Tebow had a great college career. He would have been an early 2nd round pick if not a late 1st rounder.
And Tebow has shown he can play and be productive in the NFL. Ghost just sucked.

Sure, but that still doesn't justify you saying "Tebow was a first round pick, thereby he is talented and should be pursued via trade."


If Tebow can beat him out, I couldn't care less what happens to Sanchez. In fact, if he beats him out, I will go out and buy season tickets within the hour.

It's less about what happens to Sanchez and more about how the acquisition affects the organization's success.


Again, you play the best guy you have. If it's Tebow, Sanchez needs to collect splinters.

I agree but this statement is predicated on many assumptions that I believe to be false.


If Sanchez cant handle competition, I have no sympathy for him. And, I think the chances of what you are saying are greater if Sanchez is not pushed than if he is.

Difference between competition and Tebowmania. It's one thing if Tebow is a prototypical QB but it's very difficult to measure who would put the Jets in a better position to win. If you play Tebow over Sanchez the offensive playcalling will have to change (less pass more run), for example.


Also, I dont get why people assume Sanchez wont get better.

Fixed it for you.


I saw him make some nice throws last year. He is also decent at reading defenses. Not sure why people think he wont get it and become a good NFL qb. He has a high football iq, decent arm, makes good decisions, and is a winner. I agree with McDaniels - I think he can be a legit NFL qb.
I think Sanchez can be a legit NFL QB. Agree to disagree.

[dcm1602]

I meant moreso why would they give up McClain. They have no incentive to do so

? Hes a free agent... From the Ravens

Who wed have cap space to sign if we traded them Scott.

They wouldnt be giving us him, theyd be giving usthe cap space we need to get him

[Jake]

You know what I have a guarantee why the Cowboys , Jets and Miami WOULD NOT pick up Tebow...you know why?

Losers lose.

Losers like my Boys, Jets and Miami Lose (or they have gotten use to it year after year after year) so they probably would not do it.

I bet the Patriots end up with him. I cant wait to see the league against Brady, Gronk, Hernandez , Welker , Lloyd and Tebow at H-back all on the field at the same time.

Fight the staus quo guys while you still have a chance , I wish Jerry would not be a drunk and pick up Tebow. Cowboys have no chance, you guys still do.

Please buddy. You're talking about Tim Tebow like he's the guy who just replaced him. He had some magical moments last year, la dee da. His Bible-Thumping schtick isn't needed at Florham Park, we're supposed to be the "bad guys" anyway.

[VanderbiltJets]

The whole point of acquiring players is to upgrade the weapons you already have. Tebow would perform the Wildcat role better than anyone currently on the roster and *gasp* provide a passing threat out of that formation as well.
You need to frame this in cost-benefit analysis as opposed to taking both options from the original position.


If Tannenbaum felt that Tebow's cap hit would prohibit the Jets from filling more pressing needs he wouldn't pursue this angle. Clearly the Jets feel he can be asset.
Expressing interest IMO is the same as due diligence. The same due diligence the Jets gave to Manning by expressing interest.

[Br4dw4y5ux]

I think the Jets should trade for Tebow to play NT. He'd be much quicker than the guys opposite him and he'd run through them just like he runs through opposing defenses now.

And the god bubble would protect him at crunch time.

[VanderbiltJets]

? Hes a free agent... From the Ravens

Who wed have cap space to sign if we traded them Scott.

They wouldnt be giving us him, theyd be giving usthe cap space we need to get him

I assumed the reference was to Rolando given the context. Mea culpa.

[evojoe67]

I'm betting anything Woody called Tannenbaum and told him, "GET ME TIM TEBOW'!

He would be stupid not to, with his precious PSL'S to sell!

[SufferingJetsFan]

Cromartie is already tweeting against this move. PASS.

Since Tebow coming here is a possibility, I'm guessing Cro (and probably a portion of the locker room) still hasn't learned a damn thing.

[Saint Chez]

Also, I dont get why people assume Tebow wont get better. I saw him make some nice throws last year. He is also decent at reading defenses. Not sure why people think he wont get it and become a good NFL qb. He has a high football iq, decent arm, makes good decisions, and is a winner. I agree with McDaniels - I think he can be a legit NFL qb.

I don't get why you don't think Sanchez will get better.

[VanderbiltJets]

(includes 2 post season starts)
Total Yards: 3835
Passing : 2885
Rushing: 950
Total TDs : 32
Interceptions: 9
Fumbles lost: 7
Completion percentage: 47.3%
QB rating: 78.1 (includes post season)



say he sucks all he wants but 3835 yards and 32 TDs is worth a 6th round pick even if it is to change him to running back

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[CowboysFan]

@ Jake (I am the world's biggest idiot, I cant figure out how to respond quoting what you said) .

The guy wins at every level. he is worth whatever media headache comes with it. Besides the Jets can not possibly care about the media, you guys get nailed with media obsession no matter what. Anyway I had become a member of the board last year and thought I would drop by when I heard the Tebow rumor .

Its ok that you guys have the bad guy image. Tebow is tough as hell.

[Jake]

Since Tebow coming here is a possibility, I'm guessing Cro (and probably a portion of the locker room) still hasn't learned a damn thing.

He's also been publicly supporting Mark Sanchez. His Quarterback. I think that speaks more volumes than his not wanting to acquire Tebow.

So far this offseason we've had Mangold, Brick, Slauson, Cro, Holmes, Mo Wilk, and Pouha publicly back #6. Wonder who the annonymous sources were, Marquice Cole?

[LongTimeJetsFan]

I don't get why you don't think Sanchez will get better.

How could Sanchez possibly get better, milcus hates him.

[dcm1602]

I assumed the reference was to Rolando given the context. Mea culpa.

He plays for the Raiders lol

[laxin]

Ok but the fan base [most of it] doesn't want the media headache it will create. Sure he could be a productive player in the Wildcat, sure he's a good guy, but why is he going to all of a sudden make our locker room closer? I think if anything the media backlash of last year has already made the team closer. Cromartie is already tweeting against this move. PASS.

Spot on Jake. I honestly dont care what he brings to us in terms of the wildcat or being a nice guy; he would indirectly create a huge media scene that could create an even bigger rift in the locker room than last year. Its just not worth it.

This offseason has been all about not making the splashes and keeping out of the media. This would just kill that MO.

[laxin]

@ Jake (I am the world's biggest idiot, I cant figure out how to respond quoting what you said) .

The guy wins at every level. he is worth whatever media headache comes with it. Besides the Jets can not possibly care about the media, you guys get nailed with media obsession no matter what. Anyway I had become a member of the board last year and thought I would drop by when I heard the Tebow rumor .

Its ok that you guys have the bad guy image. Tebow is tough as hell.

Just like he has a winning record in the playoffs, right?

If anything, you should be crying to your fellow cowboys fans, because your QB , is not a winner.

[PatPatriot]

How much of an I'm sorry extension will Sanchez get for the Jets going after Tebow?

[SufferingJetsFan]

He's also been publicly supporting Mark Sanchez. His Quarterback. I think that speaks more volumes than his not wanting to acquire Tebow.

Wow. That's awesome. He spoke out for Sanchez. Yeah!!

So if Tebow comes here, he now has to explain his "tweets" against him? Maybe he should just stop tweeting (talking)? Maybe Rex should have put his foot down about this shit already?

I guess if it's pro Sanchez it's cool? If it's anti-another free agent, it's not cool?

[VanderbiltJets]

The guy wins at every level.

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[laxin]

How much of an I'm sorry extension will Sanchez get for the Jets going after Tebow?

None. He wouldnt be our starting QB. Its as simple as that.

[VanderbiltJets]

He plays for the Raiders lol

As you can tell I haven't ate yet today. I need to quit multi-multi-multi-tasking.

[displacedfan]

How much of an I'm sorry extension will Sanchez get for the Jets going after Tebow?

Another fan not understanding the concept of salary cap, best case scenario, and managing a team. Learn the details of a contract before spouting off illogical statements that have been shot down over and over again in the Sanchez extended thread.

Anyways, only way I want Tebow here is if Tanny or Rex comes out and states Tebow is the 4th QB on the depth chart and only an emergency QB. He will be used in certain wildcat packages only and maybe they will try to teach him to play tight end or fs.

[Phear]

Wow. That's awesome. He spoke out for Sanchez. Yeah!!

So if Tebow comes here, he now has to explain his "tweets" against him? Maybe he should just stop tweeting (talking)? Maybe Rex should have put his foot down about this shit already?

I guess if it's pro Sanchez it's cool? If it's anti-another free agent, it's not cool?

The problem is, Rex works for Woody, not the other way around. If Woody wants Tebow, Rex could be willing to take a bullet for Sanchez and it wouldn't change a thing.

[Jake]

Wow. That's awesome. He spoke out for Sanchez. Yeah!!

So if Tebow comes here, he now has to explain his "tweets" against him? Maybe he should just stop tweeting (talking)? Maybe Rex should have put his foot down about this shit already?

I guess if it's pro Sanchez it's cool? If it's anti-another free agent, it's not cool?

Meh, I have no problem with him saying piss on that transaction, because I also say piss on that transaction.

Sanchez is gonna be the QB here next year, glad a lot of key players are in his corner. That's all I take from that tweet.

If Teblow comes here he'll just forgive him anyways.

[LAJet]

Please, can we stop with the bring Tebow BS and focus on important improvements for the Jets. One thing we do not need is to add fuel to the media circus in NY for a non starting NFL QB. GodAl Mighty I can not believe we are even laming about this.

[PatPatriot]

Another fan not understanding the concept of salary cap, best case scenario, and managing a team. Learn the details of a contract before spouting off illogical statements that have been shot down over and over again in the Sanchez extended thread.

Anyways, only way I want Tebow here is if Tanny or Rex comes out and states Tebow is the 4th QB on the depth chart and only an emergency QB. He will be used in certain wildcat packages only and maybe they will try to teach him to play tight end or fs.

I fully understand the concept of salary caps and managing a team. The teams that have to restructure contract after contract like the Jets do not.

[VanderbiltJets]

How much of an I'm sorry extension will Sanchez get for the Jets going after Tebow?

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[DirtySanchez]

How much of an I'm sorry extension will Sanchez get for the Jets going after Tebow?

Depends how much san fran will give him after we trade him there for their first round pick.

Edit: nm they resigned smith so I cant even joke about this.

[VanderbiltJets]

I fully understand the concept of salary caps and managing a team. The teams that have to restructure contract after contract like the Jets do not.

I forgive your ignorance. Some fans, no matter how much they try, just can't understand how the NFL works... SMH :pats_suck:

[CowboysFan]

(first time I post this)
Highest TD percentage in red zone
By QB, last 2 seasons*

Broncos Tim Tebow 28.6
Jaguars David Garrard 27.2
Colts Peyton Manning 25.7
Packers Aaron Rodgers 25.7
Patriots Tom Brady 24.6

[Phear]

I fully understand the concept of salary caps and managing a team. The teams that have to restructure contract after contract like the Jets do not.

Well shit, what team do u work for? Surely someone as bright as yourself who knows more about salary caps and running a team must already work in the nfl.

[DirtySanchez]

From Rotoworld:

In addition to the Jets, NFL Network's Mike Lombardi reports that the Jaguars have "serious interest" in trading for Tim Tebow.

The Jags apparently aren't just discussing the idea "internally." Citing multiple NFL GMs, NFL Network's Jason La Canfora has suggested Tebow might bring back no more than a fifth-round pick as compensation. If so, several teams should be interested, and owner Shad Khan's fondness of Tebow dates back to 2010. The Jets and Jaguars appear to be Tebow's likeliest suitors at this point in time. The Broncos didn't plan to drive a hard bargain, but they could as interest begins to swell. In Jacksonville, it's believed Tebow would start out only as a third-stringer and Wildcat option.

[PatPatriot]

I forgive your ignorance. Some fans, no matter how much they try, just can't understand how the NFL works... SMH :pats_suck:

Tell me how the NFL works then.

[CowboysFan]

Just like he has a winning record in the playoffs, right?

If anything, you should be crying to your fellow cowboys fans, because your QB , is not a winner.

He is 1-1 in the playoffs as a first year starter. Are we separating playoffs from over all record? Was the expectation as a first year starter a superbowl?

he is 8-5 as a starting QB in the NFL last year with a team that was the worst in the league in the previous 31 games before he took over.

That is an actual fact. You can hate on him all you want but you can not change what actually happened.

[VanderbiltJets]

Tell me how the NFL works then.

Paraphrasing Lindsay Carlisle-Shea from Parks and Rec: "Isn't he trying his hardest? So cute! And so good!"

[Br4dw4y5ux]

You know what the real problem with the current Jets management team is? They do absolutely silly stuff on such a regular basis that they're defenseless when a situation like this pops up.

Even if they weren't at all interested in Tim Tebow any rumor that made the rounds that they were would be instantly credible. Because the Jets do jump at whatever is in the wind whenever it blows. The Asomugha circus last year just kind of confirmed that rationality and logic have no adherents in the Jets management suite.

[VanderbiltJets]

He is 1-1 in the playoffs as a first year starter.

Sanchez 2-1 in the playoffs as a first-year starter AND rookie.
Sanchez 2-1 in the playoffs as a second-year starter/second-year player (as Tebow was). Both wins came against Manning and Brady on the road.

Who would you rather have?

[Br4dw4y5ux]

Sanchez 2-1 in the playoffs as a first-year starter AND rookie.
Sanchez 2-1 in the playoffs as a second-year starter/second-year player (as Tebow was). Both wins came against Manning and Brady on the road.

Who would you rather have?

The guy who blesses Jesus with every win obviously.

[ScotsJet]

Tell me how the NFL works then.

Contracts with big base salaries are designed to be restructured if required. It gives the team flexibility to take a cap hit when it suits them and to have more than one chance to take that decision. It's not by chance.

[VanderbiltJets]

The guy who blesses Jesus with every win obviously.

Who would you rather have-- a player that blesses Jesus, or a player with the blessing of Revis?

[DirtySanchez]

You know what the real problem with the current Jets management team is? They do absolutely silly stuff on such a regular basis that they're defenseless when a situation like this pops up.

Even if they weren't at all interested in Tim Tebow any rumor that made the rounds that they were would be instantly credible. Because the Jets do jump at whatever is in the wind whenever it blows. The Asomugha circus last year just kind of confirmed that rationality and logic have no adherents in the Jets management suite.

Aso was slightly crazy because of tying up all the cap space at cb. But he was considered at least the second best cb in football. Where is Tebow in the qb rankings? 15 at best, 30th at worst?

Still if we can dump cap and get him for peanuts i am all for it.

[dcm1602]

He is 1-1 in the playoffs as a first year starter. Are we separating playoffs from over all record? Was the expectation as a first year starter a superbowl?

he is 8-5 as a starting QB in the NFL last year with a team that was the worst in the league in the previous 31 games before he took over.

That is an actual fact. You can hate on him all you want but you can not change what actually happened.

He barely won a game at HOME, vs a team with a completley crippled QB. Should I be impressed ?

[VanderbiltJets]

This is an actual fact:

The Jets succeeded in the playoffs because of Mark Sanchez in spite of the defense.

[VanderbiltJets]

Contracts with big base salaries are designed to be restructured if required. It gives the team flexibility to take a cap hit when it suits them and to have more than one chance to take that decision. It's not by chance.

Legitimizing trolls only makes them troll harder.

To paraphrase Dwight Schrute: "Trolls are like raccoons. You give them a taste of cat food and pretty soon they're back for the whole cat."

[DirtySanchez]

I wonder if Tanny has really lost his shit and theyre thinking about getting tebow and the trading Mark....which teams still need QBs?

[PatPatriot]

Contracts with big base salaries are designed to be restructured if required. It gives the team flexibility to take a cap hit when it suits them and to have more than one chance to take that decision. It's not by chance.

By restructuring contracts, you just delay paying the money on that contract unless you pay it out as some kind of roster/workout/etc. bonus. Sure, it frees up the cap space in that particular year but the money is still on the books. If you restructure too many contracts, you run into salary cap problems down the road and end up having very little space. It creates problems managing a team and it's depth(like what happened with the Jets this year).

[VanderbiltJets]

By restructuring contracts, you just delay paying the money on that contract unless you pay it out as some kind of roster/workout/etc. bonus. Sure, it frees up the cap space in that particular year but the money is still on the books. If you restructure too many contracts, you run into salary cap problems down the road and end up having very little space. It creates problems managing a team and it's depth(like what happened with the Jets this year).

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[VanderbiltJets]

I wonder if theyre thinking about getting tebow and the trading Mark....

After giving him an extension I'm more likely to be hit by an asteroid.

[dmarz45]

We could trade for Tebow and just play him in the 4th quarter at QB because that's the only time he's ever good lol....

[DirtySanchez]

After giving him an extension I'm more likely to be hit by an asteroid.

Clearly they'd be nuts. Of course they paid Hunter his bonus and then tried to trade him too.

[laxin]

We could trade for Tebow and just play him in the 4th quarter at QB because that's the only time he's ever good lol....

Yeah, because Sanchez isnt good in the 4th quarter or anything...

[The Notorious J.E.T.S]

I approve of this Tebow trade.

[DirtySanchez]

If we get Tebow HBO has to throw crazymoney at the Jets to do hard knocks again. Imagine Tebow with Westoff and Rex?

[VanderbiltJets]

If we get Tebow HBO has to throw crazymoney at the Jets to do hard knocks again. Imagine Tebow with Westoff and Rex?

After one week with Rex the incessant cursing would drive Tebow to demand a trade or threaten to retire.

[dmarz45]

Yeah, because Sanchez isnt good in the 4th quarter or anything...

yeah man you're right. Sanchez looked like Aaron fucking Rodgers in the 4th quarter this year!!!

[june19]

I approve of this Tebow trade.

Yes sir, why not.

[74Mangold]

(first time I post this)
Highest TD percentage in red zone
By QB, last 2 seasons*

Broncos Tim Tebow 28.6
Jaguars David Garrard 27.2
Colts Peyton Manning 25.7
Packers Aaron Rodgers 25.7
Patriots Tom Brady 24.6

hey....since I'm guessing Sanchez has one of the lowest TD percentages in the red zone after his first three years, we could "totes" use Tebow as our change of pace HB...I mean Qb.

Yeah. We'll use Sanchez inside the 20's and then once he gets the success of putting the team in scoring position we'll do him the honor of benching him to let Tebow go punch it in at a higher percentage.

It's a brave new world.

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[dmarz45]

hey....since I'm guessing Sanchez has one of the lowest TD percentages in the red zone after his first three years, we could "totes" use Tebow as our change of pace HB...I mean Qb.

Yeah. We'll use Sanchez inside the 20's and then once he gets the success of putting the team in scoring position we'll do him the honor of benching him to let Tebow go punch it in at a higher percentage.

It's a brave new world.

thats actually not a bad idea man. The threat of Tebow running inside the red zone could actually lead to a higher TD % in the redzone

[LongTimeJetsFan]

The Jets were the #1 redzone team in the league in '11.

[74Mangold]

The Jets were the #1 redzone team in the league in '11.

Which is why I said in the first three years, to nullify your argument.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BRAVE NEW WORLD HERE....not Sanchez being a future top level quarterback.

[laxin]

yeah man you're right. Sanchez looked like Aaron fucking Rodgers in the 4th quarter this year!!!

Yeah just like I was right on Shonn Greene.

Sanchez had 4 4th quarter comebacks this year, and has 11 since he entered the league (which Im pretty sure is the most since that time, if not, he’s definitely top 3).

And BTW, the whole team sucked this year, not just Sanchez.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Which is why I said in the first three years, to nullify your argument.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BRAVE NEW WORLD HERE....not Sanchez being a future top level quarterback.

I've had a long day and I don't really understand what the fuck you're talking about. I'll assume you're being sarcastic.

[74Mangold]

I've had a long day and I don't really understand what the fuck you're talking about. I'll assume you're being sarcastic.

obv.

The thought of benching your franchise Qb to destroy all of his statistics and confidence and status and everything else to *potentially* marginally improve your redzone TD % for maybe one or two years until Sanchez develops into a quarterback that will clearly dominate Tebow in all areas of the field...is so repulsive to me that I can't really respond with anything but sarcasm.

To bring in Tim Tebow right now is a fucking publicity stunt and nothing but. I'm strongly assuming that this is another instance of Tanny toying with the retarded fans' heartstrings and trying to give the impression of the Jets being stronger players in FA than maybe they really are by getting the Jets name attached to the Peyton race and maybe the Tebow "race."

If it's not we're just wasting time and energy and resources (at the very least) to get another pretty boy Qb that causes 10x the stir in the media every time he gets on his knee to pray to the invisible man in the sky. That's the best case scenario. The worst case is they actually come up with an idea sick and depraved enough to do something like benching Sanchez in the redzone, castrating him and potentially seriously harming his development forever.

[NYJets17]

The Jets offer for Tebow is a 6th and a 2013 conditional pick which could be up to a 4th...
THAT WORSENS THE CAP..Tanny wtf are you doing bro.

[dcm1602]

The Jets offer for Tebow is a 6th and a 2013 conditional pick which could be up to a 4th...
THAT WORSENS THE CAP..Tanny wtf are you doing bro.

Source? Ejirifuwonwifiller

[laxin]

The Jets offer for Tebow is a 6th and a 2013 conditional pick which could be up to a 4th...
THAT WORSENS THE CAP..Tanny wtf are you doing bro.

Is this real or just speculation...

[LongTimeJetsFan]

The Jets offer for Tebow is a 6th and a 2013 conditional pick which could be up to a 4th...
THAT WORSENS THE CAP..Tanny wtf are you doing bro.

Where do you come up with that?

[dmarz45]

The Jets offer for Tebow is a 6th and a 2013 conditional pick which could be up to a 4th...
THAT WORSENS THE CAP..Tanny wtf are you doing bro.

wow man... I cant wait to see Tebow throw 40 check downs a game.. Its gonna be even worse than Sanchez and Pennington combined.

[NYJets17]

Where do you come up with that?
I could tell you but im new so im gonna assume your like the rest of the boards who hate incarceratedbob :grin:

[laxin]

I could tell you but im new so im gonna assume your like the rest of the boards who hate incarceratedbob :grin:

So its obviously not true... Why bother posting it? Sigh.

[blackssmagic]

O.k. I am not a fan of Tebow at all, but in saying this I can see why the Jets would trade for him. Woody gets to parade him around with Mark and sell PSL's.

Mark would finally feel a push as he would have compition at QB. I am not saying that Tebow is better than Mark at all, look at what happened in Denver. The fans wanted Tebow over Orton and it finally happened. I think that this would bring out the best in Mark hands down. It would push Mark in ways that he hasnt been yet, Drew Stanton or Tebow as the back up. To me its simple, Tebow would be my choice all day long.

[DirtySanchez]

I could tell you but im new so im gonna assume your like the rest of the boards who hate incarceratedbob :grin:

Im going to make up a twitter accout and post random fake news like ib and see how many people repost it.

[Jerseyboyisback]

Im going to make up a twitter accout and post random fake news like ib and see how many people repost it.

would be funny and to see you on espn even better

[NYJets17]

He had Peyton to Broncos March 13.
Williams to Buffalo 2 days before it happened.
Alex Smith resigning yesterday.

Say what you want, but he's right 95% of the time.

Alot of you dont like him because of the Aso signing. oh well :)

[NYJets17]

BTW Adam Schefter follows him on twitter ;)

[dcm1602]

He had Peyton to Broncos March 13.
Williams to Buffalo 2 days before it happened.
Alex Smith resigning yesterday.

Say what you want, but he's right 95% of the time.

Alot of you dont like him because of the Aso signing. oh well :)

If he said them before they happened... It means he made them up

[dmarz45]

He had Peyton to Broncos March 13.
Williams to Buffalo 2 days before it happened.
Alex Smith resigning yesterday.

Say what you want, but he's right 95% of the time.

Alot of you dont like him because of the Aso signing. oh well :)

yeah he also said that Nelson signed with the Jets and he was right about that one too!!!!! guy makes guesses and is a joke

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Does anyone follow incarseratedbob that can vouch that he posted that BS, because when I search twitter i see nothing of the sort. I don't believe IB, I just want to find out if he actually posted that crap.

[NYJets17]

If he said them before they happened... It means he made them up
Well everyone has an opinion, you dont believe him. ok cool, I respect that I dont blame you.

[Boba Jett]

Sell PSL's? This isn't the bible belt, how many NY/NJers are gonna rush out to see the amazing virgin bible boy who can't actually throw?

[NYJets17]

yeah he also said that Nelson signed with the Jets and he was right about that one too!!!!! guy makes guesses and is a joke
He said the Jets were just about done signing Nelson which was true.
Until the Bengals offered him that contract and he went back.

Did you know that?

[dmarz45]

He said the Jets were just about done signing Nelson which was true.
Until the Bengals offered him that contract and he went back.

Did you know that?


why post shit like that if he didnt sign yet???

[Jerseyboyisback]

Sell PSL's? This isn't the bible belt, how many NY/NJers are gonna rush out to see the amazing virgin bible boy who can't actually throw?

all of the PSL are sold except for CLUB!! no one wants to pay. I know LLEZ is sold out except for singles.

[dcm1602]

Well everyone has an opinion, you dont believe him. ok cool, I respect that I dont blame you.

Thats not an opinion.

Thats a fact.

If he says Peyton Manning is a Bronco, a week before Peyton Manning actually signs with the Broncos, then hes flat out speculating/guessing.

[NYJets17]

why post shit like that if he didnt sign yet???
to inform his followers who asked him specifically about the deal.

[displacedfan]

Two things make me suspicious about incarceratedbob,
1) Why are his tweets protected? If he wants to break news, gotta be an open twitter account.
2) He is not right 95% of the time.

Here is a good article on incarceratedbob for everyone: To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.

[NYJets17]

Let me ask, how many of you use Wikipedia?


I didnt post information to start shit, I just was telling you information I heard on the a shitty f*cking trade.

[dmarz45]

:offtopic:

fuck IB

[Jake]

^That.

I thought we already established that guy was just guessing and taking credit for others' leaks? He is not a source. He reported Cro was on the trade block last week. It's somebody else every week.

[dcm1602]

Let me ask, how many of you use Wikipedia?


I didnt post information to start shit, I just was telling you information I heard on the a shitty f*cking trade.

Wikipedia is right more often than IB.

[displacedfan]

Let me ask, how many of you use Wikipedia?


I didnt post information to start shit, I just was telling you information I heard on the a shitty f*cking trade.

Well you didn't quote your source in the original post. You let it hang and then come in the next post and say incarceratedbob. If you had from IB in the original post on the news, then it wouldn't have started everyone getting upset very quickly

[Poeman]

I admit I am a big Tebow guy, love his personal qualities...He is extrememly aggravating to watch when he throws the ball...As a runner, it could be interesting.

Wonder if Rex is on this wagon

[MURDR]

Look's like OP could get his wish. We just joined the Tebow derby. Wouldn't mind him as SOLELY a Wildcat QB.

[blackssmagic]

We wouldnt have to watch him out run Eric Smith atleast ever again....

[boozer32]

Just reported that Sparano wants Tebow to run his "Wildcat". I sure hope the Jets steer clear of this one dimensional RB.

[hobgoblin]

I wouldn't mind at all. Give him a package that he can manage and don't let me throw too much. He's ideal for 2nd and short and goal-line situations.

[NYJets17]

We have so much more to worry about than a Backup, wildcat QB!!

Like a FS,Wayne Hunter. Our CAP can't afford to waste it on Timothy Tebow.

[steves850]

Could be interesting.. Not sold on it but if its a low cost deal I would be on board...

Wait no Fuck Tim Tebow!

[JetsFan]

I say a 4th round pick could get it done, which would be great.

He would be way better than any situational player you would draft in the fourth round.

Also, as soon as a couple starting QBs fall or fail this season you could possible get a 2nd in return for him.

[dcm1602]

I say a 4th round pick could get it done, which would be great.

He would be way better than any situational player you would draft in the fourth round.

Also, as soon as a couple starting QBs fall or fail this season you could possible get a 2nd in return for him.

You could EASILY get our future starting guard to replace Moore in a year in the 4th round...

[wa2k99]

Love him as a human being. That said, the media would turn into him a distraction. Not worth it for anything over a 5th round pick.

Will trade Ducasse for him.

[JUNJOBX2199]

No No and A BIG NO! Lets all get down on One knee and pray. Oh dear lord , lets this gentleman go somewhere where he is happy. Let him go to Jacksonville and muddy up the waters that flow eternal. Oh dear lord i wish Tim Tebow well and hope he enjoys his remaining year or two in the NFL. Amen!

[JetsFan]

Love him as a human being. That said, the media would turn into him a distraction. Not worth it for anything over a 5th round pick.

Will trade Ducasse for him.

I would trade Hunter and throw in Ducasse for free.

[steves850]

I would trade Hunter and throw in Ducasse for free.

Is Tebow gonna play RT then?

[laxin]

I would trade Hunter and throw in Ducasse for free.

Yeah, lets trade all our OL depth for a wildcat QB... Maybe Tebow can play RT then, because that would leave us with no RT, brilliant I tell you.

[Dirty6Sanchez]

I say a 4th round pick could get it done, which would be great.

He would be way better than any situational player you would draft in the fourth round.

Also, as soon as a couple starting QBs fall or fail this season you could possible get a 2nd in return for him.

Denver would probably part with him for a 5th or 6th to be honest. I think they just want to be done with the whole circus act

[JetsFan]

Is Tebow gonna play RT then?

Couldn't be any worse.

If we go into the season with either of those two starting at RT, we better have Tebow in at QB, because our QB better be able to running fast.

We will draft a RT in the 2nd round, after grabbing Upshaw in the 1st.

[The Notorious J.E.T.S]

Yeah, lets trade all our OL depth for a wildcat QB... Maybe Tebow can play RT then, because that would leave us with no RT, brilliant I tell you.

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[MyFavoriteMartin5]

If Santonio was already pissed at Sanchez for not getting him the ball, how do you think he will feel with Tebow?

Tebow for the wildcat, OK

Tebow as the starter, no thank you

[steves850]

Couldn't be any worse.

If we go into the season with either of those two starting at RT, we better have Tebow in at QB, because our QB better be able to running fast.

We will draft a RT in the 2nd round, after grabbing Upshaw in the 1st.

You should tweet this "Breaking News** Jets will draft Upshaw in the 1st and a RT in the 2nd" - Incarcerated_JetsFan

[steves850]

If Santonio was already pissed at Sanchez for not getting him the ball, how do you think he will feel with Tebow?

Tebow for the wildcat, OK

Tebow as the starter, no thank you

Why don't we just get a legit RB? I'm sure Bush or Stewart could complete 45% of their attempted passes...

[DirtySanchez]

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[Jake]

Why don't we just get a legit RB? I'm sure Bush or Stewart could complete 45% of their attempted passes...

I believe Kerley had one of our only two 40+ yd completions last year. lolololol

[vinnumber13]

only way id want tebow is if its for a 4th rounder this year and maybe a 3rd next year that could turn into a 2nd depending on play. totally do not want him as my starter but just to come in and run the wild cat

[NYJetsfan56]

Kerley can run the wildcat and he's a better passer than Tebow

[Chrebet86]

If he came dirt cheap and it wasnt for the fact that at the slightest mistake by Mark Sanchez, hell even without a mistake all wed have to hear about is put in Tebow.

I think he could be utilized great as a power runner gadget play situtional kind of guy, real well infact.

Unfortunately he would bring that circus to town and instead of everyone yelling for brett ratliff or kellen clemens etc. Itd be tebow mania all the time on here AND in the media.

To summarize:

Tebow in a situtional role, good.
Tebow as a QB, bad.

Of course as I said that is in a pure football way, not counting anything to do with media and publicity becuas ethat is obvious baggage that WILL come with him so the answer is NO F*ING WAY!

[NYJetsRevis24]

this will never happen Miami will offer Denver more if there serious players

[steves850]

I wonder how much of the Jets "interest" in Tebow is PR and locker room unity and how much of it is for his playmaking ability...

[Chrebet86]

I wonder how much of the Jets "interest" in Tebow is PR and locker room unity and how much of it is for his playmaking ability...

Zero Id bet.

It would be a constant distraction for Sanchez.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

I'm going to repeat this speculation since there seems to be a number of people participating in this thread right now that missed it. It's possible that the Jets are trying to move Bart Scott in this trade which would result in us gaining a significant chunk of cap space.

They get:
1) A starting ILB who they'll need while there's is suspended.
2) Rid of the tebow mania headache/distraction.

We get:
1) Additional cap space.
2) A unique offensive weapon that Sparano can probably take advantage of.

Then we could pickup the FA ILB from the Ravens.

Seems to work for both parties.

[Chrebet86]

I'm going to repeat this speculation since there seems to be a number of people participating in this thread right now that missed it. It's possible that the Jets are trying to move Bart Scott in this trade which would result in us gaining a significant chunk of cap space.

They get:
1) A starting ILB who they'll need while there's is suspended.
2) Rid of the tebow mania headache/distraction.

We get:
1) Additional cap space.
2) A unique offensive weapon that Sparano can probably take advantage of.
3) Tebow mania headache/distraction.


Then we could pickup the FA ILB from the Ravens.

Seems to work for both parties.

I agree but I fixed it for ya, so my opinion is that number 3 makes it not worth it.

[steves850]

I'm going to repeat this speculation since there seems to be a number of people participating in this thread right now that missed it. It's possible that the Jets are trying to move Bart Scott in this trade which would result in us gaining a significant chunk of cap space.

They get:
1) A starting ILB who they'll need while there's is suspended.
2) Rid of the tebow mania headache/distraction.

We get:
1) Additional cap space.
2) A unique offensive weapon that Sparano can probably take advantage of.

Then we could pickup the FA ILB from the Ravens.

Seems to work for both parties.

I could roll with this. I do not like the idea of giving up much of anything as far as draft picks. You can strike gold with a pick, we already know what we are getting with Tebow....

[TheBlairThomasFumble]

If Tanny and Woody want to put people in the seats and hype up the Jets in a year that followed the VaGiants winning the SB, I can't think of a better way to do those things than trading for Tim Tebow.

Make it happen Tanny.

[dcm1602]

I could roll with this. I do not like the idea of giving up much of anything as far as draft picks. You can strike gold with a pick, we already know what we are getting with Tebow....

At the same time we could save having to use a draft pick on a MLB

The idea of dumping Scott + a 6th rounder, getting Tebow (a gimick player/future QB depth) + a younger MLB (from free agency) isnt a bad idea.

And while I truly do not like Tebow, at least well have a young QB that hopefully will improve locked up via his rookie contract.

Who knows maybe in a year or 2 he could actually learn how to throw a football

Not to mention if Sanchez actually got hurt (which is completely possible with our offensive line). Tebow would give us our best chance to win

[JetsFan]

I'm going to repeat this speculation since there seems to be a number of people participating in this thread right now that missed it. It's possible that the Jets are trying to move Bart Scott in this trade which would result in us gaining a significant chunk of cap space.

They get:
1) A starting ILB who they'll need while there's is suspended.
2) Rid of the tebow mania headache/distraction.

We get:
1) Additional cap space.
2) A unique offensive weapon that Sparano can probably take advantage of.

Then we could pickup the FA ILB from the Ravens.

Seems to work for both parties.

I agree, plus after last year and the Orton trade falling out, Denver will not trade with Miami, unless they give a third. Just my thoughts, but there must be a sour taste after no trade and having to cut Orton later on.

[Chrebet86]

Tebow is like cancer that smiles.