Better chance of making playoffs

[Vorrecht]

Lions or Bills

[Poeman]

Lions can get in and so can the Bills, but one of these teams lacks the impact playmakers on defense and offense so you have to lean with one of them...

[GatorGar]

Lions. We all know Buffalo is going to fall flat on their face.

[James Calvin]

Adding last year's tendencies to this year's (early) reality, both teams are in divisions with much stronger competition.

[BadgerOnLSD]

Adding last year's tendencies to this year's (early) reality, both teams are in divisions with much stronger competition.
Right now the Bills look a little better on that front - they've defeated the Pats once. The Lions have yet to play the Bears or Packers (or any decent team really).

[James Calvin]

Neither Stafford or Fitzpatrick has ever played 16 games in a season in the NFL.

Fitzpatrick, 6 seasons- Stafford 2.

[Brunell's Debt]

Neither. The Lions will finish with a better record though.

[dcm1602]

Truth be told theres a LOT more competition in the NFC for a wild card spot this year.

In the AFC you got 1 team from afc north and 1 team from the afc east (2 if you count the Bills)

And thats really it unless you want to take the Raiders and Titans seriously as playoff contenders.

In the NFC they just got a whole god damn boatload of teams, starting with the entire NFC east (which as terrible as they all are, they are all wild card contenders), 3 teams in the NFC north, and 3 teams in the nfc south.

Yet all that and im rather confident the Lions make it IF stafford stays healthy. But they're might need 11 wins to do it.

[BuffaloPhysco]

We have a great chance to be 6-0 heading into the bye week. No way we don't make the playoffs when that happens.

[BuffaloPhysco]

Team A = Patriots
Team B = Bills

Team B beats Team A when Team A had a 10 game regular season winning streak. Team B continues to get no respect despite the fact they beat Team A which was picked as a superbowl winner this year by many. Here is Team B's upcoming opponents...

@ Bengals........W
Eagles.............L
@ Giants..........W
Redkins (Canada) W
Jets.................W
@ Cowboys.......L
@Dolphins.........W
@Jets..............L
Titans..............W
@ Chargers.......W
Dolphins...........W
Broncos...........W
@ Pats.............L

12-4 record and a first round bye. Yes I'm serious.

[ukilledkenny]

Team A = Patriots
Team B = Bills

Team B beats Team A when Team A had a 10 game regular season winning streak. Team B continues to get no respect despite the fact they beat Team A which was picked as a superbowl winner this year by many. Here is Team B's upcoming opponents...

@ Bengals........W
Eagles.............L
@ Giants..........W
Redkins (Canada) W
Jets.................W
@ Cowboys.......L
@Dolphins.........W
@Jets..............L
Titans..............W
@ Chargers.......W
Dolphins...........W
Broncos...........W
@ Pats.............L

12-4 record and a first round bye. Yes I'm serious.

That's all fine and good, no reason not to be confident this week.

I happen to remember two years ago when the jets came out of nowhere to a 3-0 start and all our fans blew their load with 13-3 12-4 predicitons. It's a long season and having a hot september doesn't necessarily mean anything a few weeks from now.

[BuffaloPhysco]

That's all fine and good, no reason not to be confident this week.

I happen to remember two years ago when the jets came out of nowhere to a 3-0 start and all our fans blew their load with 13-3 12-4 predicitons. It's a long season and having a hot september doesn't necessarily mean anything a few weeks from now.

Oh i agree and I'm trying to stay as grounded as I can especially with what looks like 3 of the top 6 or 7 teams in the AFC are from the East.

[Jam.]

12-4 record and a first round bye. Yes I'm serious.

That's okay, you were serious when you said Trent Edwards was going to be better than Sanchez...

[Miamipuck]

That's okay, you were serious when you said Trent Edwards was going to be better than Sanchez...

And sticking his own head up a cows ass.........

[BuffaloPhysco]

And to be fair since Fitz took over as starter, he has been above and beyond better then Sanchez.

[........]

We have a great chance to be 6-0 heading into the bye week. No way we don't make the playoffs when that happens.

A "great" chance? WHEN that happens?

You're getting ahead of yourself. The Bills will lose at least one game between Weeks 5 and 6. After the bye, I could easily see them only winning 2-3 games. I like Ryan Fitzpatrick and Fred Jackson. I still think their peak potential is 9-7...MAYBE 10-6. The latter may still not be good enough for the postseason.

[........]

Why did you do the whole "Team A", "Team B" thing AFTER you told us which team was which. Isn't the point of that to hide identity until a surprising point is made?

[........]

And to be fair since Fitz took over as starter, he has been above and beyond better then Sanchez.

I agree with that. He had developing personnel last season and played well. The FO showed a decided commitment to him by allowing him to develop that personnel into this season without an heir apparent waiting, and it paid off well.

[DisgruntledLionFan]

Still not sure the Lions are a 10 win team. No running game to speak of and they really haven't been tested on the defensive backend. That's going to change next Sunday.

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[Yisman]

Lions, easily.

They were expected to compete for a spot anyway. They have a lot of talent.

[Jam.]

Why did you do the whole "Team A", "Team B" thing AFTER you told us which team was which. Isn't the point of that to hide identity until a surprising point is made?
Lol I noticed that too, didn't make much sense..

[BuffaloPhysco]

A "great" chance? WHEN that happens?

You're getting ahead of yourself. The Bills will lose at least one game between Weeks 5 and 6. After the bye, I could easily see them only winning 2-3 games. I like Ryan Fitzpatrick and Fred Jackson. I still think their peak potential is 9-7...MAYBE 10-6. The latter may still not be good enough for the postseason.

Your right. I'm sky high right now but with those NFC East teams banged up and playing inconsistently right now, I'm glad we get them the next few weeks. The O-line was a concern coming into the season, however they have been playing damn well. Only one sack given up this season and that was early in the KC game. My concerns right now is our lack of depth at WR. If Stevie J or Nelson (knock on wood) go down with an injury for a few weeks we would be screwed especially with Parrish being placed on IR. I'm still hoping to sign a vet like Donnie Avery or a possesion receiver like Justin Gage since Nelson has been excelling from the slot. Also our lack of a consistent pass rush will eventually bite us in the ass against some better QB'S. Still see us at 11-5 or 12-4.

[BuffaloPhysco]

Why did you do the whole "Team A", "Team B" thing AFTER you told us which team was which. Isn't the point of that to hide identity until a surprising point is made?

lol I'm not that clever. Guess I should have revealed who the A and B teams were at the end of the post.

[Vorrecht]

We have a great chance to be 6-0 heading into the bye week. No way we don't make the playoffs when that happens.

How long have you been a Bills fan?

[BuffaloPhysco]

How long have you been a Bills fan?

Born into this disease in 1987 and have been faithfully watching since i was a teenager and understood the game. Your not gonna pull the "well they started 5-1 in 2008 and look what happend" line are you?

[........]

Your right. I'm sky high right now but with those NFC East teams banged up and playing inconsistently right now, I'm glad we get them the next few weeks.

Yeah, that's a definite plus. I'd love to have the Giants and Eagles right now.

[GoPats]

The Bills impressed the shit out of me on Sunday with their resilience and offensive firepower, no doubt. Gotta give them credit. They're a pretty determined bunch, and they're playing with an excellent team mentality right now.

But it's a little early to be saying they're bound for a 12-4 or 13-3 record.

1. If they keep spotting teams 20+ point leads, they won't be able to come back every week.

2. They've played two home games (both of which were the already-mentioned huge comebacks) and one road game against a terrible team.

3. Tom Brady doesn't have 4 INT games very often, and it took every single one of them for the Bills to pull out the win last weekend.

4. Defensively there are still a lot of questions. (Same can be said for the Patriots, I realize.)


Don't get me wrong, they got the better of New England on Sunday and deserve props. It's just a bit early for the coronation ceremony.

[LolTolhurst]

As much as I wanna be optimistic I just can't buy into it yet. If we can't get some semblance of a pass rush (only 1 sack in 3 games) then we are ultimately pretenders...at best a fringe playoff team. Our run D had two huge tests to start the year and did pretty well, so that's encouraging. Our O-line has also been exceptional. Only 1 sack given up all year (Tamba Hali), while shutting out the Raiders D-line and Pats D in that regard.

There's a lot of cause for optimism, but once again--no pass rush, no playoffs imho. We need Merriman to start juicing again.

[BuffaloPhysco]

If we can't get to Dalton atleast 3 times this week, I will be in full blown panic mode. As for Merriman, I don't know what the deal is. They havn't let him loose enough IMHO and he was held with no calls a few times against the Pats. Another play, he dove way too early and had his hands on Bradys ankle as he stood still and made the throw anyway.

[The Green Dude]

Buffalo can't keep coming out of the gate flat and expecting to come back from 21 points the whole season... They were VERY close to a 1-2 record if it weren't for some late game heroics. Congrats on the 3-0 record but play a complete fucking football game before you go predicting 12-4... 13-3 records.

[LiterateStylish]

There's no point in trying to convince them BuffaloPsycho. It's a divisional teams fans and they will refuse to believe that the Bills are a good football team until they play them. The Pats fans all said the Bills were a fluke until Buffalo smacked them in the face and outscored them 34-10 in the final 20 minutes of the game.

The Bills offense is scoring at will and confused the best QB in the game to the tune of 4 INT's. Anyone who wants to overlook that is simply being ignorant.

[GoPats]

There's no point in trying to convince them BuffaloPsycho. It's a divisional teams fans and they will refuse to believe that the Bills are a good football team until they play them. The Pats fans all said the Bills were a fluke until Buffalo smacked them in the face and outscored them 34-10 in the final 20 minutes of the game.

The Bills offense is scoring at will and confused the best QB in the game to the tune of 4 INT's. Anyone who wants to overlook that is simply being ignorant.

Simply being ignorant, huh? Did you watch the game?

Not one of those INTs was caused by "confusion." They were poor throws and/or bad decisions. Still on Brady, but c'mon... it wasn't a defensive masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination. He threw four INTs but also put up nearly 400 yards and threw 4 TDs along the way.

The INTs were:

1. Deflected off Woodhead's hands right to a defender. (Fluke.)
2. Tried to hit a fairly well-covered Ochocinco who made a lazy cut. (Bad decision.)
3. Tried to force one into a double-covered Gronkowski. (Bad decision.)
4. Deflected at the line and bounced right to a defender. (Fluke.)

Everyone is giving Buffalo credit and props for a good game and good start to the season. I don't know why you're taking it as a slight that people are saying hold your horses on 13-3 or 14-2. Play a road game against a quality opponent first.

Just be happy with the win and try not to gloat about being 3-0. There's a lot of football to play.

[BuffaloPhysco]

Simply being ignorant, huh? Did you watch the game?

Not one of those INTs was caused by "confusion." They were poor throws and/or bad decisions. Still on Brady, but c'mon... it wasn't a defensive masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination. He threw four INTs but also put up nearly 400 yards and threw 4 TDs along the way.

The INTs were:

1. Deflected off Woodhead's hands right to a defender. (Fluke.)
2. Tried to hit a fairly well-covered Ochocinco who made a lazy cut. (Bad decision.)
3. Tried to force one into a double-covered Gronkowski. (Bad decision.)
4. Deflected at the line and bounced right to a defender. (Fluke.)

Everyone is giving Buffalo credit and props for a good game and good start to the season. I don't know why you're taking it as a slight that people are saying hold your horses on 13-3 or 14-2. Play a road game against a quality opponent first.

Just be happy with the win and try not to gloat about being 3-0. There's a lot of football to play.

Interception number 4 was impressive. Marcell Dareus used his head to bounce that ball into the air on the other side of the hashmarks :grin: Also if we don't get that first interception by Scott I don't think we win the game. Very easily could have been 28-7 if he doesn't make that play.

[GoPats]

Interception number 4 was impressive. Marcell Dareus used his head to bounce that ball into the air on the other side of the hashmarks :grin: Also if we don't get that first interception by Scott I don't think we win the game. Very easily could have been 28-7 if he doesn't make that play.

The old "headbutt" deflection? ;)

I'm pushing 40 so I remember the stretch of games when the Bills manhandled the Pats for like five years straight. The Kelly/Thomas/Reed teams... we could never beat you guys back then.

Enjoy the ride no matter how it turns out. Lots of cause for optimism...

[Rockefella]

I just bet the Bills to win the Superbowl

[James Calvin]

Simply being ignorant, huh? Did you watch the game?

Not one of those INTs was caused by "confusion." They were poor throws and/or bad decisions. Still on Brady, but c'mon... it wasn't a defensive masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination. He threw four INTs but also put up nearly 400 yards and threw 4 TDs along the way.

The INTs were:

1. Deflected off Woodhead's hands right to a defender. (Fluke.)
2. Tried to hit a fairly well-covered Ochocinco who made a lazy cut. (Bad decision.)
3. Tried to force one into a double-covered Gronkowski. (Bad decision.)
4. Deflected at the line and bounced right to a defender. (Fluke.)

Everyone is giving Buffalo credit and props for a good game and good start to the season. I don't know why you're taking it as a slight that people are saying hold your horses on 13-3 or 14-2. Play a road game against a quality opponent first.

Just be happy with the win and try not to gloat about being 3-0. There's a lot of football to play.

Just re watching the game now. None of the INT's were on "good" throws.

[GoPats]

Just re watching the game now. None of the INT's were on "good" throws.

I agree. Bad throws all around. The one to Woodhead was too high, he never should have gone to Ocho on that play, he tried to force the ball to Gronk on a double-team, and the deflection was thrown too low.

But none of those were the result of "confusion," as it had been stated. Just piss-poor execution on Brady's part, and some very good individual plays by some of the Bills defenders.

When a QB doesn't properly recognize a coverage scheme pre-snap (like some of the games the Patriots have played against the Jets since '09), then they throw the ball not realizing what they're throwing it into. At this stage of his career, there are very few defenses that confuse Brady. Execution is entirely another thing though, and he did a really poor job of that last weekend.

[SufferingJetsFan]

Lions have so much talent on both sides of the ball. They are a true playoff contender.

I'm taking the Bills more seriously after last week, but I still think they wind up missing the playoffs.