The NBA Free Agency Thread

[soxxx]

LEBRON IS GOING TO THE KNICKS

Meeting #1- Last Thursday

Meeting #2- Yesterday MORNING Leon Rose and Maverick Carter met with the Knicks and it took ESPN a full day to even report this. They just reported this a couple minutes ago claiming it was a "secret meeting"

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-Reports that MSG president Scott O'Neil flew to Ohio on Sunday.

Meeting #4-

Jul 04, 2010 7:45 PM EST
Maverick Carter, LeBron James' business partner, will be flying to New York on Wednesday to meet with the Knicks, according to sources that spoke with Tommy Dee of The Knicks Blog.


Via Tommy Dee/The Knicks Blog (via Twitter)


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CHECK MATEEEE CHECK MATEEEE. EVEN Maverick Carter the same Maverick Carter who said a couple weeks ago Lebron would never go to NY is now taking a personal trip to NY on Wednesday.

Knicks fans keep your fingers crossed we might have this

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FUCKKKK YESSSSSSSSSSS

[IATA]

Rofl. Jumping the gun a bit much?

[soxxx]

Rofl. Jumping the gun a bit much?Yes but its nice to finally be excited bout something Knicks related.

[IATA]

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The New York Knicks held a second meeting with LeBron James' representatives to clarify exactly where they stood in regards to signing Amare Stoudemire, ESPN.com learned Sunday.

The meeting, attended by James' agent, Leon Rose, Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald and others, took place Saturday morning in Cleveland before James himself met with the Cleveland Cavaliers and Chicago Bulls.

It lasted about an hour, with James' representatives wanting to know whether it was true (it wasn't) that New York had already formally offered Stoudemire a five-year, $100 million contract.

James did not attend, nor did Knicks president Donnie Walsh or coach Mike D'Antoni. Reports of a third meeting between the two sides were refuted by Walsh.

"We don't have any other meetings scheduled with LeBron," Walsh told ESPN.com's Chad Ford.

"It was somewhat of a clarification meeting to deal with some of the misinformation that is out there," one source said of the second meeting.

Walsh explained that the meeting was salary cap related to explain the Knicks cap options this year and next with James' agent.

A second source said it was the Knicks, not James, that requested the second meeting, which was first reported by the New York Daily News on its website Sunday afternoon.

As was reported by ESPN.com, the Knicks told Stoudemire they have a willingness to offer him a five-year max contract, with everything contingent on what James decides to do.

"We're meeting with [Stoudemire] tomorrow," Walsh said. "We haven't sat down and talked contract with him at all."

There is no shortage of players willing to team up with James in the Big Apple.

The Knicks told James in their initial meeting with him Thursday that if he signs with New York, he can choose which free agent big man he would like to play alongside, be it Stoudemire, Chris Bosh, Carlos Boozer or David Lee.

Stoudemire has fed into the folly by acting as though there was already an offer on the table, going so far as to tell reporters Saturday night that he was already recruiting Carmelo Anthony and Tony Parker to join the Knicks.

"I've talked to Carmelo Anthony that he needs to come out here," Stoudemire said on Saturday. "I've talked to Tony Parker. Both guys are ready to join me if I decide to come here. So we will see if we can work it out."

Parker and Anthony would not become free agents until next year. The Nuggets have offered Anthony a $65 million extension to remain in Denver through 2015.

Parker would have to get to New York via sign-and-trade and Anthony could sign as a free agent next offseason, provided he doesn't sign an extension with the Nuggets this summer and that the Knicks clear enough salary cap room.

In reality, however, Stoudemire will be seeking employment elsewhere if James tells the Knicks he wants to play in New York alongside a different big man.

ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reported that Stoudemire and D'Antoni had breakfast together Sunday. The purpose of the sitdown was to clear the air about any old grievances that may have existed between the two when they were with Phoenix in the mid-2000s, according to sources.

"[Stoudemire] spent the weekend in New York with his agent," Walsh said. "Mike [D'Antoni] met with him today to talk basketball and some personal issues."

The first face-to-face meeting between Stoudemire's camp and a full Knicks contingent will take place Monday.

There were reports Sunday that Stoudemire wants to arrange visits with the New Jersey Nets and Bulls on Tuesday and Wednesday, but a third source told ESPN.com that no actual sitdowns had been firmly scheduled. The Knicks, however, are at the top of his list, according to sources.

The news of the second meeting between representatives of James and the Knicks came as The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer was reporting that James will not reveal his decision until after his Nike basketball camp in Akron concludes Wednesday night.

James will be free to sign with the team of his choice as of 12:01 a.m. Thursday, after the salary cap for the 2010-11 season is set.


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[kbgreen]

Yes but its nice to finally be excited bout something Knicks related.

I read that todays meeting was to smooth feathers because of leaks after the first meeting that said the knicks performed badly. I still do not think the knicks are going to get LBJ

[IATA]

And to quote the exact same guy you did...

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Knicks fans may want to kill this messenger, but multiple sources still say NY still trailing CLE, CHI, NJ on LeBron's list even w/ Amar'e
about 1 hour ago via web
.PDcavsinsider
Brian Windhorst

[MParty7441]

Ok guys...take this with a grain of salt...my mom's boyfriends son is friends with the Dolans son. He was at a BBQ at their house tonight and he call my moms boyfriend and said that LBJ will sign with the Knicks and it will be announced tomorrow.

I dont really believe it, but I figured I'd pass it on.

[EcKo151]

Ok guys...take this with a grain of salt...my mom's boyfriends son is friends with the Dolans son. He was at a BBQ at their house tonight and he call my moms boyfriend and said that LBJ will sign with the Knicks and it will be announced tomorrow.

I dont really believe it, but I figured I'd pass it on.
Grain of salt has been taken...But thanks for the pass along.

Shit that speculation could be JUST AS good as what fucktards Broussard, Bucher, and Wojornawski have said.

[IATA]

Ok guys...take this with a grain of salt...my mom's boyfriends son is friends with the Dolans son. He was at a BBQ at their house tonight and he call my moms boyfriend and said that LBJ will sign with the Knicks and it will be announced tomorrow.

I dont really believe it, but I figured I'd pass it on.


My brother buys pot from a guy who gets it from the same person who sells pot to Lebrons uncles neighbor, and he told me that Lebron would wind up in New Jersey.

[MParty7441]

My brother buys pot from a guy who gets it from the same person who sells pot to Lebrons uncles neighbor, and he told me that Lebron would wind up in New Jersey.

Actually, the connection in my story is a little tighter!

[IATA]

If that gets announced tomorrow, I'll parade naked thru the streets of Paraguay.

[soxxx]

Here is my view on the free agency as of today...

We have reporters saying that Walsh only said that their was no meeting to cover up the meeting and keep it a secret. Similiar to how yesterdays meeting was kept a secret for nearly 2 days. But some things are emerging quite clear...

-Wade is going to Chicago, he's saying the custody case is very important, etc.

-The Heat are in major trouble if Wade leaves, no one would even consider going their

-Amare is going to the Knicks

Heres where it gets interesting though. The Bulls can only sign one Max Contract. So if Wade goes their....where will Bosh go? Bosh might have no choice if he wants to win to go to the bulls for under the Max Contract. Would Lebron or Wade both go to the Bulls for less money? unlikely.

So as far as I look at it the Bulls nearly have their team set if Wade goes. So I believe its safe to assume Lebrons choices have narrowed down to three choices....Cavaliers, Knicks, Nets. Unless the Nets lock up like Bosh then I don't see Lebron agreeing to go their. Besides Bosh might be going to Chicago. Which would leave two realistic choices the Knicks or the Cavaliers....

Wade going to the Bulls has definately shakened up everything. But we will see how it plays out first...

[IATA]

Actually, the connection in my story is a little tighter!

And really? You honestly believe that the Dolans' son would know about the signing, and would choose to tell your moms boyfriends son? And that this wouldn't have exploded all over the internet?


If this dosen't get announced, we should get the end of the Airport story.

[IATA]

Here is my view on the free agency as of today...

We have reporters saying that Walsh only said that their was no meeting to cover up the meeting and keep it a secret. Similiar to how yesterdays meeting was kept a secret for nearly 2 days. But some things are emerging quite clear...

-Wade is going to Chicago, he's saying the custody case is very important, etc.

-The Heat are in major trouble if Wade leaves, no one would even consider going their

-Amare is going to the Knicks

Heres where it gets interesting though. The Bulls can only sign one Max Contract. So if Wade goes their....where will Bosh go? Bosh might have no choice if he wants to win to go to the bulls for under the Max Contract. Would Lebron or Wade both go to the Bulls for less money? unlikely.

So as far as I look at it the Bulls nearly have their team set if Wade goes. So I believe its safe to assume Lebrons choices have narrowed down to three choices....Cavaliers, Knicks, Nets. Unless the Nets lock up like Bosh then I don't see Lebron agreeing to go their. Besides Bosh might be going to Chicago. Which would leave two realistic choices the Knicks or the Cavaliers....

Chicago has at least 2 deals in place to clear more space, contingent on them getting 2 max players.

The Nets have a better shot of getting Lebron than you think. Lebron isn't stupid, he knows that the world market is infinetly more profitable than the saturated American market, and if he has one of the biggest players in the international game owning his team, he can absolutly blow the fuck up internationally.

[MParty7441]

And really? You honestly believe that Donnie Walshs' son would know about the signing, and would choose to tell your moms boyfriends son? And that this wouldn't have exploded all over the internet?


If this dosen't get announced, we should get the end of the Airport story.

Bro, no reason to get all pissed, I was just passing along a story I heard. Relax man.

[IATA]

I'm not pissed at all lol

I'm just saying, that's about as far fetched as you can get.

[MParty7441]

I'm not pissed at all lol

I'm just saying, that's about as far fetched as you can get.

It's not like I said it was facts, notice my disclaimer? It would just something I heard and I figured you guys would be interested. Was I wrong?

[IATA]

Again, I didn't mean to come off as an asshole at all.


He also addressed the idea that if the Knicks strike out in free agency with the top three of James, Wade and Bosh, that they might just save their money for next year.


"You could put it off until next year, but it's tough to do, especially with the direction we've been going," Walsh said. "But you can do it. At the very least, you have to start building into place some of the supporting cast now. If we can't get the stars this summer, we're at least going to put some players into place that will complement."


Damage control initiated.

[MParty7441]

Also, I had to post this tonight. B/c if he does sign with them tomorrow and I post this story after the fact no would have believed me!

[soxxx]

Chicago has at least 2 deals in place to clear more space, contingent on them getting 2 max players.

The Nets have a better shot of getting Lebron than you think. Lebron isn't stupid, he knows that the world market is infinetly more profitable than the saturated American market, and if he has one of the biggest players in the international game owning his team, he can absolutly blow the fuck up internationally. I feel the Bulls will convince Bosh to come to Chicago for less. And if he wants max then maybe a trade will happen.

And you might be right about the Nets. But so far they do'nt have anyone commited. If they get Bosh commited its a different story.

[desert swordz]

The Nets have a better shot of getting Lebron than you think. Lebron isn't stupid, he knows that the world market is infinetly more profitable than the saturated American market, and if he has one of the biggest players in the international game owning his team, he can absolutly blow the fuck up internationally.

I think the Nets have a good chance of signing LeBron but I think this point is overrated and isn't gonna factor in that much. A rich international owner is nice, but it's certainly not a necessity if you want to gain popularity around the world. Just look at Kobe in China. Jerry Buss is from Utah, by the way.

[Drew]

I'm trying not to get to excited, but it's so, so, difficult.

[blackssmagic]

I have a feeling that Wade/Bosh are going to the Bulls and that LBJ/Amare are going to the Knicks with a trade also going down. I live in San Antonio and there is alot of talk about Tony Parker joining them on the Knicks.

[Vorrecht]

I'm excluding Cleveland and the Clippers for these scenarios.

1) Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh go to Miami. LeBron James goes to Chicago.

Reasons for the former:

Wade gets the most money by staying in Miami.
Bosh gets the most money by getting dealt to Miami in a sign-and-trade involving Michael Beasley.

Reasons for the latter:

LeBron doesn't want to play second fiddle to Wade in Miami.
LeBron still gets to play on a great team with Derrick Rose in Chicago.


2) Wade and Bosh go to Chicago. LeBron goes to New York (Knicks/Nets).

Reasons for the former:

Wade goes back to his hometown team.
Bosh may or may not get as much money but will get to play on a tremendous team with Wade and Rose.


Reasons for the latter:

The King of the NBA becomes the King of New York.
Potentially becomes billionaire through New York market.
Enough cap space to bring in another max player of LeBron's choosing.


Sticking to my earlier prediction.

[mj2sexay]

whether the raptors want to or not, it behooves them to do a sign and trade with bosh. all this "we won't do a sign and trade" is just posturing by colangelo to try to force a team to give him a good deal.

i still think of one of wade or lebron goes to chicago, that's where bosh is headed. i originally thought there was NO way flash was leaving to come to chicago, but it appears that the custody battle has almost forced his hand. i still am apprehensive to see how him and rose can function in the same back court, but people were apprehensive about earl the pearl and clyde.

chicago can put out a deal to toronto giving them deng, a big trade exception and the pick from the bobcats we got for bustus thomas. done.

[IATA]

Lebron is signing with the yankees!!!

akron, ohio -- lebron james took a break from his whirlwind courtship to get back on the basketball court.

The nba's most wanted man made a surprise appearance monday at his nike skills academy to work out as the sports world awaits his decision on where he'll play next season.

James was not expected to attend the camp featuring some of the nation's top college and high school players until tuesday.

Wearing a new york yankees cap and white t-shirt, james strolled into rhodes arena just before 3 p.m. He was accompanied by former cavaliers teammate damon jones and others. James asked for the main locker room to be opened so he could dress.

After stretching out with a trainer, james shot jumpers as new orleans star guard chris paul, his closest friend in the league, looked on. Paul was dressed in street clothes and did not join james on the floor of the arena, where the two-time mvp played many of his high school games for st. Vincent-st. Mary.

Moments later, cleveland teammate jawad williams and high school buddy romeo travis showed up and took part in shooting and driving drills with james, who was dressed in a black, body-hugging top, black shorts and his signature nikes.

As james fine-tuned his game, camera crews filmed his every move from the other side of rhodes, hoping to catch some sign that he has come to a decision.

James is not expected to say which team he'll choose until the camp ends wednesday. Last week, james heard presentations from the cavs, nets, knicks, heat, clippers and bulls.

[kinghenry89]

Lebron is signing with the yankees!!!
Lebron is such a freakish athlete that I bet he could be starting for the Yankees in about 2 years if he decided to play baseball.

[Mr Electric]

Lebron is such a freakish athlete that I bet he could be starting for the Yankees in about 2 years if he decided to play baseball.

Hey, if he never wins multiple titles, he can still be like Mike and suck at minor league baseball.

[Jetfanmack]

Hey, if he never wins multiple titles, he can still be like Mike and suck at minor league baseball.

Football, yes. Baseball, no. LeBron would be a great tight end if he added a few pounds in a couple years, but hitting a baseball thrown 95 mph takes a lot of practice. That's hard to do, it's not just athleticism.

[Mr Electric]

Football, yes. Baseball, no. LeBron would be a great tight end if he added a few pounds in a couple years, but hitting a baseball thrown 95 mph takes a lot of practice. That's hard to do, it's not just athleticism.

James is 6'8 250...he's already bigger than most of the league's tight ends and taller than every San Diego receiver.

I'd love to see some of the best NBA players suit up and play football, but it'll never happen.

[Green Hurricane]

I'm starting to wonder how LeBron is going to do his final decision. With the way this has been going, it's got to be the old NBA caps on a table routine right? I can't imagine a more dooshy way than doing that, other than maybe playing dodgeball with kids representing each team, then slowly annihilating them with headshots until only his choice is left.

[James Hasty]

If I have to guess at this point:

Wade and Bosh go to Chicago

Lebron and either Davis Lee or Boozer go to the Nets

Knicks use up all of their remaining cap space on one or two guys (may involve a trade).

Cavs, Heat, and Clippers strike out.

Shaq goes to Boston.

[Jet In Brooklyn]

Do you think Darrelle Revis could shut down LeBron running a route on him?

[soxxx]

From what ive been hearing there was a "rift" between the Bulls and Lebrons possy. Not sure what their beef was...

also apparently Derrick Rose doesn't exactly like the idea of playing with Lebron...I think deep down hes really opposed but hes not all over the idea of being with Lebron.

Rose wants to be the Leader.

[soxxx]

"Derrick Rose reportedly preferred the Bulls to sign Joe Johnson instead of LeBron James, according to multiple people that spoke with Brian Windhorst."

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KNOCKOUT
KO
GAME OVER
SAYANORA

Just wait until Lebron sees this. GOOD BYE BULLS. Continues to dream about your glory days with Jordan, cuz thats the closest you will ever get to a ring ever again.

Bulls fans are flipping out on their forums. They are like:

by italican07 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:22 pm
-"Errr can we not have LeBron see this?"

by Ethyriel on Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:23 pm
-"STFU Derrick!"

[ace_o_spades]

So if he's opposed to playing with James I can't imagine he'd be too enthusiastic about playing with Wade.

[MSUJet85]

So if he's opposed to playing with James I can't imagine he'd be too enthusiastic about playing with Wade.

LeBron demands the ball a lot more than Wade

[soxxx]

Not sure man....I don't think Wade would put up with Rose trying to be the leader either.

I will seriously crack up if Derick Rose killed the chances of Lebron coming. Its funny that theirs already tension between the two now and Lebron is still a free agent.

this is funny as hell.

Lets see how long it takes ESPN to report this....bet they won't even say a peep about it. But I bet Lebron will hear it or already has.

[kinghenry89]

Lebron and either Davis Lee or Boozer go to the Nets

Do you really think that Lebron would go to a 12 win team if they don't add another of the "big 3" to play with him?

[JohnnyThaJet]

Wow things are actually looking up for the Nets. If reports are correct the only teams left in the Lebron Sweepstakes are NJ, Cle, and Chi. To sum it all up this is how it plays out in my opinion

1. Hes not going back to Cleveland, hes put up this search for a team for too long just to stroll back to the Cavs. So IMO there automatically out and also are getting older and unattractive at this point.

2. Chicago's roster is definitely tempting to say the least but I honestly dont think Lebron would want to live in the shadow of Jordan for the prime of his career, even if he won 3 championships there over the next few years fans would still say well only 3 more to go. It would be almost impossible to live up to what Jordan was and would never become the greatest like he wants to be perceived as in the future. Not to mention its been reported Rose doesn't want him there and him and his teammates past controversies with the Cavs are still lingering.

3. The Nets out of the three look the most attractive. They have a solid lineup and young stars such as Harris, TWill, and Lopez with good defenders like Dooling and Lee and a young kid with excellent star PF potential in Favors. Also, They have plenty of cap to sign another great all star type player like Lee/Boozer/Bosh/Allen/etc after Lebron has signed. They have the winning-est coach in the NBA history percentage wise with a record of 194-70 (.735 %), an up and coming owner in Prokhorov, are moving within 2 yrs to Brooklyn and have Lebron's idol in Jay Z. And to address the legacy aspect of Lebrons game, if he signed with a team like the Nets who were 12-70 one season and took them out of the NBA basement making them a 1,2,or 3 seed in the playoffs and possibly won them a championship he'd add his greatest mark on an already impressive resume. This in my eyes would stand him out from many other greats and show him off as one of if not THE greatest player in the NBA ( during his career)

Now for those out there who will say "HEY WHAT ABOUT THE KNICKS! WE JUST GOT AMARE!" Well i wouldnt doubt that playing with Amare is tempting but Lebron IMO just wouldn't accept. There team, organization, and coach are in shambles and play the kind of Offense and Defense that Lebron wouldn't want to be apart of ( a higher scoring team which does not focus on defense what so ever) Also the Knicks ( Besides "potential" trades) have no young solid players besides Wilson Chandler and Gallinari who both play at the SF position so eventually one of them would become a backup ( if Gal played at SG). They have ZERO bench, no solid defensive or scoring Center, and no relevant PG what-so-ever. The Knicks have potential dont get me wrong but going to the Knicks would be similar to going right back to the Cavs, a team that could be a 3,4,5 seed but looking at a 1st or 2nd round exit. Just not attractive at all.

To complete the finals of this Sweepstakes its down to NJ and NY in my mind and if Lebron is smart he chooses NJ in the end.

[dBLitzer28]

Wow things are actually looking up for the Nets. If reports are correct the only teams left in the Lebron Sweepstakes are NJ, Cle, and Chi. To sum it all up this is how it plays out in my opinion

1. Hes not going back to Cleveland, hes put up this search for a team for too long just to stroll back to the Cavs. So IMO there automatically out and also are getting older and unattractive at this point.

2. Chicago's roster is definitely tempting to say the least but I honestly dont think Lebron would want to live in the shadow of Jordan for the prime of his career, even if he won 3 championships there over the next few years fans would still say well only 3 more to go. It would be almost impossible to live up to what Jordan was and would never become the greatest like he wants to be perceived as in the future. Not to mention its been reported Rose doesn't want him there and him and his teammates past controversies with the Cavs are still lingering.

3. The Nets out of the three look the most attractive. They have a solid lineup and young stars such as Harris, TWill, and Lopez with good defenders like Dooling and Lee and a young kid with excellent star PF potential in Favors. Also, They have plenty of cap to sign another great all star type player like Lee/Boozer/Bosh/Allen/etc after Lebron has signed. They have the winning-est coach in the NBA history percentage wise with a record of 194-70 (.735 %), an up and coming owner in Prokhorov, are moving within 2 yrs to Brooklyn and have Lebron's idol in Jay Z. And to address the legacy aspect of Lebrons game, if he signed with a team like the Nets who were 12-70 one season and took them out of the NBA basement making them a 1,2,or 3 seed in the playoffs and possibly won them a championship he'd add his greatest mark on an already impressive resume. This in my eyes would stand him out from many other greats and show him off as one of if not THE greatest player in the NBA ( during his career)

Now for those out there who will say "HEY WHAT ABOUT THE KNICKS! WE JUST GOT AMARE!" Well i wouldnt doubt that playing with Amare is tempting but Lebron IMO just wouldn't accept. There team, organization, and coach are in shambles and play the kind of Offense and Defense that Lebron wouldn't want to be apart of ( a higher scoring team which does not focus on defense what so ever) Also the Knicks ( Besides "potential" trades) have no young solid players besides Wilson Chandler and Gallinari who both play at the SF position so eventually one of them would become a backup ( if Gal played at SG). They have ZERO bench, no solid defensive or scoring Center, and no relevant PG what-so-ever. The Knicks have potential dont get me wrong but going to the Knicks would be similar to going right back to the Cavs, a team that could be a 3,4,5 seed but looking at a 1st or 2nd round exit. Just not attractive at all.

To complete the finals of this Sweepstakes its down to NJ and NY in my mind and if Lebron is smart he chooses NJ in the end.

Well Said!

[JohnnyThaJet]

Well Said!

Glad to hear all that typing wasnt for nothing :up:

[kinghenry89]

Wow things are actually looking up for the Nets. If reports are correct the only teams left in the Lebron Sweepstakes are NJ, Cle, and Chi. To sum it all up this is how it plays out in my opinion

1. Hes not going back to Cleveland, hes put up this search for a team for too long just to stroll back to the Cavs. So IMO there automatically out and also are getting older and unattractive at this point.

2. Chicago's roster is definitely tempting to say the least but I honestly dont think Lebron would want to live in the shadow of Jordan for the prime of his career, even if he won 3 championships there over the next few years fans would still say well only 3 more to go. It would be almost impossible to live up to what Jordan was and would never become the greatest like he wants to be perceived as in the future. Not to mention its been reported Rose doesn't want him there and him and his teammates past controversies with the Cavs are still lingering.

3. The Nets out of the three look the most attractive. They have a solid lineup and young stars such as Harris, TWill, and Lopez with good defenders like Dooling and Lee and a young kid with excellent star PF potential in Favors. Also, They have plenty of cap to sign another great all star type player like Lee/Boozer/Bosh/Allen/etc after Lebron has signed. They have the winning-est coach in the NBA history percentage wise with a record of 194-70 (.735 %), an up and coming owner in Prokhorov, are moving within 2 yrs to Brooklyn and have Lebron's idol in Jay Z. And to address the legacy aspect of Lebrons game, if he signed with a team like the Nets who were 12-70 one season and took them out of the NBA basement making them a 1,2,or 3 seed in the playoffs and possibly won them a championship he'd add his greatest mark on an already impressive resume. This in my eyes would stand him out from many other greats and show him off as one of if not THE greatest player in the NBA ( during his career)

Now for those out there who will say "HEY WHAT ABOUT THE KNICKS! WE JUST GOT AMARE!" Well i wouldnt doubt that playing with Amare is tempting but Lebron IMO just wouldn't accept. There team, organization, and coach are in shambles and play the kind of Offense and Defense that Lebron wouldn't want to be apart of ( a higher scoring team which does not focus on defense what so ever) Also the Knicks ( Besides "potential" trades) have no young solid players besides Wilson Chandler and Gallinari who both play at the SF position so eventually one of them would become a backup ( if Gal played at SG). They have ZERO bench, no solid defensive or scoring Center, and no relevant PG what-so-ever. The Knicks have potential dont get me wrong but going to the Knicks would be similar to going right back to the Cavs, a team that could be a 3,4,5 seed but looking at a 1st or 2nd round exit. Just not attractive at all.

To complete the finals of this Sweepstakes its down to NJ and NY in my mind and if Lebron is smart he chooses NJ in the end.

1) I don't think that you can say Lebron's leaving Cleveland just because he's exploring all of his options. Like all great athletes, James has a big ego so he likes getting all of this attention. That doesn't mean that he's a lock to leave. In fact, I still believe that the Cavs are the favorites to retain him.

2) I actually think that the fact that the Knicks roster is basically a blank slate may be a plus for Lebron. They've got one top line player in Amar'e, a great shooter in Gallo, a few role players in Chandler and Douglas, and Curry's expiring deal. They can basically fill the rest of their roster with whoever Lebron can convince to come play with him. He very well find that more attractive than playing with the Nets roster which has potential, but was also very nearly the worst team in NBA history last season.

At the end of the day, nobody except for Lebron knows what's gonna happen so all this speculation is moot. All anyone can say for sure is that Wednesday should be interesting.

[soxxx]

No one honestly knows where Lebron is going or who he is narrowing it down to. He's only discussed it amongst a few select individuals so any report of where he's leaning is nothing more than opinion.

Good post tho!!

[JohnnyThaJet]

1) I don't think that you can say Lebron's leaving Cleveland just because he's exploring all of his options. Like all great athletes, James has a big ego so he likes getting all of this attention. That doesn't mean that he's a lock to leave. In fact, I still believe that the Cavs are the favorites to retain him.

2) I actually think that the fact that the Knicks roster is basically a blank slate may be a plus for Lebron. They've got one top line player in Amar'e, a great shooter in Gallo, a few role players in Chandler and Douglas, and Curry's expiring deal. They can basically fill the rest of their roster with whoever Lebron can convince to come play with him. He very well find that more attractive than playing with the Nets roster which has potential, but was also very nearly the worst team in NBA history last season.

At the end of the day, nobody except for Lebron knows what's gonna happen so all this speculation is moot. All anyone can say for sure is that Wednesday should be interesting.

I do agree that a blank slate is attractive for Lebron but like i said previously the Knicks coaching style doesnt fit Lebron and I actually think Amare and Lebron is not a good fit, Amare needs a great PG and needs to be that big scorer but his fundamentals and play will be diminished with Lebron. I think the Knicks ( if they lose on Lebron of course, Im not that stupid) should go out and trade for great PG and sign a Center like Tyson Chandler or Haywood and wait for 2011 and Currys deal to expire to sign a SG like Jay Richardson, J Crawford, or Butler ( Unless Carmelo opts out) to complete there roster and make a solid team.

But also Im wondering why you would think the Cavs is still his ultimate destination? The team is getting older, they have a new coach and gm, and look to be getting nowhere?

[JohnnyThaJet]

Rotoworld: Josh Smith-F- Hawks Jul. 5 - 8:29 pm et

The Hawks have been exploring the possibility of trading Josh Smith as part of their summertime makeover, according to sources around the league.
This makes sense in the context of the story on Fanhouse.com, which describes the Hawks offering a two-year contract to Shaquille O'Neal. It's not clear what the Hawks want in return, but they could try to package Mike Bibby or Marvin Williams with Smoove to bring back a top-notch PG.

Hmmm. Very interesting but wonder who they'd want? Maybe Tony Parker?

[southparkfanciz]

James is 6'8 250...he's already bigger than most of the league's tight ends and taller than every San Diego receiver.

I'd love to see some of the best NBA players suit up and play football, but it'll never happen.

He'd be better than the Browns TE right now.

[James Hasty]

Let's say Wade goes to Chicago and Lebron tells Bosh either come with me to New Jersey or I am going to New York.

Does Bosh choose Wade or Lebron?

[nyjetsrule]

Let's say Wade goes to Chicago and Lebron tells Bosh either come with me to New Jersey or I am going to New York.

Does Bosh choose Wade or Lebron?

good question, I think personally it would be easier to go to nj with lebron, since they can simply sign him. if he goes to chi town they have to do some moving around.

But to be honest, I really feel that it was always going to be a Bosh/Wade tandem so lebron is likely to end up in NY with Amare rather than stay put or go to NJ alone...

[James Hasty]

good question, I think personally it would be easier to go to nj with lebron, since they can simply sign him. if he goes to chi town they have to do some moving around.

But to be honest, I really feel that it was always going to be a Bosh/Wade tandem so lebron is likely to end up in NY with Amare rather than stay put or go to NJ alone...

Given that logic, does Wade choose to go to Chicago with his kid (without Bosh) or stay in Miami where he can play with Bosh?

[desert swordz]

good question, I think personally it would be easier to go to nj with lebron, since they can simply sign him. if he goes to chi town they have to do some moving around.

Bosh isn't going to 'simply sign' anywhere. Anyone that wants to acquire him will have to do it with a sign-and-trade, because he wants the extra 30 mil he'd get by signing with the Raptors.

[EcKo151]

Chad Ford reports Orlando has signed Chris Duhon to a 4 year 16 million contract.

WHY?

[101_GANG_GREEN_101]

Chad Ford reports Orlando has signed Chris Duhon to a 4 year 16 million contract.

WHY?

Magic needed a backup PG, just in case Jameer gets hurt, but for 16 million? Meh.

[Tight]

LeBron demands the ball a lot more than Wade

Disagree. Lebron is way less selfish then Wade.. Can you remember a Great pass from wade ever ?

[James Hasty]

Bosh isn't going to 'simply sign' anywhere. Anyone that wants to acquire him will have to do it with a sign-and-trade, because he wants the extra 30 mil he'd get by signing with the Raptors.

If Bosh needs a sign and trade he won't play with Wade or Lebron and he won't win a championship anytime soon.

He has to choose between Wade, Lebron, and the extra money.

If Lebron leaves Cleveland maybe they will be desparate enough to give Bosh what he wants.

[EcKo151]

Sources: Raptors OK with Bosh to CavsEmail Print Comments7 By Chris Broussard
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Everything is set for Chris Bosh to join LeBron James in Cleveland. Everything, that is, except Bosh's approval.


The Toronto Raptors have told the Cleveland Cavaliers they will do a sign-and-trade with them for Bosh, according to several league sources.

The exact details of the potential trade have not been solidified, but Toronto likely would get Anderson Varejao and/or J.J. Hickson, Delonte West and perhaps Anthony Parker. A draft pick could be involved as well.

ESPN NBA insider Chris Broussard says he thinks LeBron James is leaning towards staying in Cleveland. Chris Bosh wants to play with James but would rather do it in a bigger city than Cleveland.

Both James and Bosh are aware that such a trade is possible, and James has tried to recruit Bosh to the Cavaliers several times in the past few weeks, according to sources.

But right now, Bosh remains cold to the idea of playing in Cleveland.

The Cavaliers are hopeful that will change, because in Cleveland, Bosh can meet two of his top priorities: playing with James, and getting a six-year, $125 million contract.

If Bosh joins a team without doing a sign-and-trade, he will be able to sign only a five-year deal worth $96 million. He is determined not to leave that $29 million on the table, according to sources.

Although Bosh wants to play with James, he wants to do it in Chicago, Miami or New Jersey. Sources say he has told the Raptors those are the teams he would like to go to in a sign-and-trade.

Bosh also could play with Dwyane Wade instead of James in those cities.

Toronto, however, will not cooperate in a sign-and-trade with Miami, which has no players in whom the Raptors are interested, according to sources.


To move Bosh to Chicago, the Raptors likely would ask for Joakim Noah, though they could perhaps be persuaded to take a package that does not include him.

The Nets would seem to be able to put together an enticing package for the Raptors that included rookie lottery pick Derrick Favors.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.


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[kinghenry89]

I do agree that a blank slate is attractive for Lebron but like i said previously the Knicks coaching style doesnt fit Lebron and I actually think Amare and Lebron is not a good fit, Amare needs a great PG and needs to be that big scorer but his fundamentals and play will be diminished with Lebron. I think the Knicks ( if they lose on Lebron of course, Im not that stupid) should go out and trade for great PG and sign a Center like Tyson Chandler or Haywood and wait for 2011 and Currys deal to expire to sign a SG like Jay Richardson, J Crawford, or Butler ( Unless Carmelo opts out) to complete there roster and make a solid team.

I can definitely buy the argument that the Knicks coaching staff doesn't fit Lebron, but I strongly disagree about Amar'e. I think that James and Stoudemire would instantly become far and away the best pick and roll combo in basketball.

But also Im wondering why you would think the Cavs is still his ultimate destination? The team is getting older, they have a new coach and gm, and look to be getting nowhere?

They look a lot better if they pull off a sign and trade for Bosh. At the end of the day, I think that Lebron cares about his ego but he also cares about his fans in Ohio. If he stays, he remains the most popular athlete that Cleveland's ever had. If he leaves, he becomes a pariah overnight. He becomes A-Rod.

I really don't see him leaving the Cavs unless they totally fail to upgrade their roster. But hey, this is all just my baseless speculation--which is just as valuable as Chris Broussard or Ric Bucher's but it's still just speculation.

[ace_o_spades]

Wow, Bosh going to Cleveland is completely ideal for LeBron.

[17a_tailgater]

Wow, Bosh going to Cleveland is completely ideal for LeBron.

absolutely, he gets his big time star and doesnt have to leave and look like a bad guy.

on the otherhand if that happens does Wade come to the knicks???

[TommyGreen]

Well, that sucks.

Guess LeBron is staying in Cleveland.

[TheCoolerGlennFoley]

I do agree that a blank slate is attractive for Lebron but like i said previously the Knicks coaching style doesnt fit Lebron and I actually think Amare and Lebron is not a good fit, Amare needs a great PG and needs to be that big scorer but his fundamentals and play will be diminished with Lebron. I think the Knicks ( if they lose on Lebron of course, Im not that stupid) should go out and trade for great PG and sign a Center like Tyson Chandler or Haywood and wait for 2011 and Currys deal to expire to sign a SG like Jay Richardson, J Crawford, or Butler ( Unless Carmelo opts out) to complete there roster and make a solid team.

But also Im wondering why you would think the Cavs is still his ultimate destination? The team is getting older, they have a new coach and gm, and look to be getting nowhere?


Couldn't disagree more. LeBron would essentially be playing point forward in an uptempo offense that would allow him to actually have other guys in motion he could pass to. LeBron and Amar'e would be a great pick and roll combo with both guys capable of going to the hole and finishing.

[kbgreen]

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Bosh to cleveland would suck! It would be Lebrons dream but not so good for us here on the east coast who would like meaningful NBA basketball again.

[EcKo151]

Cleveland would bw giving up dog crap and Verejao's contract for a legit star in Bosh? What the fuck?

[EcKo151]

On a side note...joe johnson just finished a 70 million contract and will now get 120 million...Cha-Ching.

[JetBlue]

absolutely, he gets his big time star and doesnt have to leave and look like a bad guy.

on the otherhand if that happens does Wade come to the knicks???

no, he goes to Chicago.

[Yisman]

yeah, it's been made pretty clear that Wade is either staying in Miami or going to Chicago (his family).

[17a_tailgater]

no, he goes to Chicago.

which actually i would like bosh and wade to sign in chicago so lebron would sign with the knicks

[soxxx]

One Word folks.

Motivation.

Lebron go stay in Cleveland with that bitch Chris Bosh. Stay please.

But thankyou for motivating us.

I would LOVE nothing more than a situation where the Cavs are the #1 seed and the Knicks are the #8 seed and we do what we did in 99. Break the #1 seed into peices. We did it once. We will do it again. And Lebrons postseason failures will continue.

[JetBlue]

One Word folks.

Motivation.

Lebron go stay in Cleveland with that bitch Chris Bosh. Stay please.

But thankyou for motivating us.

I would LOVE nothing more than a situation where the Cavs are the #1 seed and the Knicks are the #8 seed and we do what we did in 99. Break the #1 seed into peices. We did it once. We will do it again. And Lebrons postseason failures will continue.
yeah, I'd rather the Knicks not be the 8th seed. call me crazy.

[James Hasty]

Bosh has a problem that he does not seem to recognize.

The Nets, Bulls, and possibly others can sign Bosh as a free agent for $16.5 mil and contend for a championship.

No one can trade for Bosh and have the supporting cast needed to make a championship run.

I think Bosh will ultimately have to choose between winning and money.

[624]

Bosh has a problem that he does not seem to recognize.

The Nets, Bulls, and possibly others can sign Bosh as a free agent for $16.5 mil and contend for a championship.

No one can trade for Bosh and have the supporting cast needed to make a championship run.

I think Bosh will ultimately have to choose between winning and money.

That makes it seem like he will get nothing if he chooses to win...16.5 million and winning doesn't sound too shabby to me.

[fenwyr]

If Lebron stays in Cleveland and they bring in Bosh, I can call next years finals.

[Jetfanmack]

That makes it seem like he will get nothing if he chooses to win...16.5 million and winning doesn't sound too shabby to me.

At least you would think so.

Would LeBron be willing to make less money than Bosh? Nets could sign and trade with some draft picks and trade exceptions/cap space.

[James Hasty]

If Lebron stays in Cleveland and they bring in Bosh, I can call next years finals.

So can I, Kobe gets another ring.

[SettlerDawg]

I don't see how Toronto can like anything on the Cavs' roster. What's the point of taking back expirings? They already have the cap savings from Bosh. Would players like Varejow sign with Toronto once their contract is up? Would Toronto want the last or second to last draft pick in the first round when they could get a higher pick elsewhere? Toronto can't even get rid of Turkolu (sp?) in this trade because they would have to take back a bunch of horrible contracts. Now add to this that Bosh doesn't want to go to cleveland. I don't think there's anyway that Cleveland can sign and trade for Bosh.

[J.E.T. Tone Holmes]

I don't see how Toronto can like anything on the Cavs' roster. What's the point of taking back expirings? They already have the cap savings from Bosh. Would players like Varejow sign with Toronto once their contract is up? Would Toronto want the last or second to last draft pick in the first round when they could get a higher pick elsewhere? Toronto can't even get rid of Turkolu (sp?) in this trade because they would have to take back a bunch of horrible contracts. Now add to this that Bosh doesn't want to go to cleveland. I don't think there's anyway that Cleveland can sign and trade for Bosh.

yea, these deals that are floating around do not look good for toronto. l

looking at how many times these "sources" have been dead wrong this week, i refuse to believe any of this shit

[EcKo151]

Guy on Twitter posted...

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[Royal Tee]

Guy on Twitter posted...

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ooooof, if true, that'll change some things...but If I were you, I'd stay away from tweets....

[kbgreen]

Guy on Twitter posted...

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That would suck! I hope not, He would be perfect for NYC with either the Nets or knicks!

[ace_o_spades]

Carmelo can't leave that money on the table, too bad

[ace_o_spades]

Not sure where the idea Tor won't S&T w/Mia came from, but it's not true. Calderon/Bosh for Chalmers, 2 future 1sts + trade exception: done.

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Don't the salaries have to match?

[ace_o_spades]

Don't the salaries have to match?

Nope, Miami is under the cap

[ace_o_spades]

Bucher tweeted a retraction

Twitter brevity raises its dangerous head once again. There is no trade between Mia + Tor. Sorry for any confusion/raised blood pressure.

[JetBlue]

Bucher tweeted a retraction

not a retraction, just specified that he was talking out of his ass and not breaking news about a trade.

[EcKo151]

Bucher has been ATROCIOUS on predictions these 2 weeks.

[Poeman]

Bucher, Broutard, Adande, Wojina have all been shit in covering this FA stuff....They all lost any sort of credibility with me.

Real dudes reporting are David Aldridge, Tommy Dee, Ian O'Connor, Cavs Insider guy (Brian Windsomething)

[Rockefella]

Cavs Insider guy (Brian Windsomething)

Brian Windhorst - Cleveland Plains Dealer. Agreed on everything else. The guy that irks me most is Steven A Smith. He comes on the radio and starts yelling about how 'Its one hunded puhssent, 100! dat lebron is goin to chicago wit bosh. And the week before he'll say, ''Imma garanteeeee, garanteeeeeeeeeeeee! dat LEbrons goin to NY baby he goin be a knick''. That guy is so full of shit his eyes are brown. It was great hearing him with Brandon Tierney on 1050 with Tierney busting his balls about changing his Lebron watch predictions every week or so.

[kinghenry89]

Bucher, Broutard, Adande, Wojina have all been shit in covering this FA stuff....They all lost any sort of credibility with me.

Real dudes reporting are David Aldridge, Tommy Dee, Ian O'Connor, Cavs Insider guy (Brian Windsomething)
Adande's been alright as far as I can tell.

Broussard literally makes shit up as he goes.

[Poeman]

Brian Windhorst - Cleveland Plains Dealer. Agreed on everything else. The guy that irks me most is Steven A Smith. He comes on the radio and starts yelling about how 'Its one hunded puhssent, 100! dat lebron is goin to chicago wit bosh. And the week before he'll say, ''Imma garanteeeee, garanteeeeeeeeeeeee! dat LEbrons goin to NY baby he goin be a knick''. That guy is so full of shit his eyes are brown. It was great hearing him with Brandon Tierney on 1050 with Tierney busting his balls about changing his Lebron watch predictions every week or so.

I didnt realize Stephen A Smith still had a job...I thought he was munching on those cheese doodles from his couch

[ace_o_spades]

fuck all these guys...unfortunately i'm gonna keep following them

[Poeman]

Breaking News on ESPN

Lebron James to announces decision on Thursday at 9PM on ESPN

[Poeman]

Btw Chris Broutard just said

"Do not be surprised if it is the Knicks"

What a loser...He should be fired because he gives no accurate information.

This was him a while back when he was giddy about the bulls
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[ace_o_spades]

Is he really making a prime time event out of this?

I hope he does the hats

[624]

Great, now ESPN has an excuse to do a "Lebron Decision Show"

Fuck the media

[Poeman]

Its going to be a one hour special and the ad proceeds will go to the Boys & Girls Club

"Knicks have a made a huge run and DO NOT BE SURPRISED IF ITS THE KNICKS"

Chris Broussard looks like he is going to cry. LOL

[624]

Lebron finally made a twitter account: To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.


His bio is "King of Akron"....

[Poeman]

Tommy Dee said Maverick Carter is expected to be in NY tomorrow...

[ToonWalker]

Holy shit.
LeBron Decision Show at 9 pm. On ESPN.

You just have to roll your eyes. LeBron certainly knows how to milk the crap out of the situation. And ESPN has creamed all over themselves.

[Poeman]

Lebron finally made a twitter account: To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.


His bio is "King of Akron"....

sportsguy33
It's the dramatic season finale of The LeBrachelor! LeBron announcing his choice on ESPN: Thursday, 9pm ET, 1-hr special. 1 minute ago via UberTwitter

KCJHoop
This just in: Brad Miller will follow with his free-agent decision on The Outdoor Channel after LeBron. Skoal and Budweiser are sponsors. less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck

[EcKo151]

^Was just going to post that...

It's a sponsored event and everything will be going to kids.

This is great.

[ToonWalker]

I'm not sure how they're going to create an entire hour out of "The Decision"...but I'll be watching with my popcorn.

I expect plenty of ass-kissing, smoke-blowing, and talking-head bull-shitting.

Plleeeeeeaaaaassse have a bunch of caps that he has to choose to wear at 9:58 PM, just to make a mockery of the whole thing.

[soxxx]

Yea Chris Brousard is now saying its the Knicks. What a moron. For once I hope he is right.

[Poeman]

Although one has to think what sensible man will destroy a loyal franchise like the Cavs on national television and pick another team even if its the Knicks.

It just sounds off to me...Broutard has always been wrong...This could end all melo-dramatic as usual and he will pick the Cavs.

[EcKo151]

Broussard only said don't be surprised if its the Knicks.

[kinghenry89]

Broussard has literally been wrong about EVERYTHING this offseason. I dunno if I want him predicting the Knicks.

A lot of members of the sports media will have some serious egg on their face if Lebron comes to MSG (though I doubt they'll bother to wipe it off--ESPN is accountable to no one.)

[EcKo151]

Where is the decision going to made from?

If it's in Ohio...No way he picks the Knicks.

[kinghenry89]

Where is the decision going to made from?

If it's in Ohio...No way he picks the Knicks.
I bet he'll do it in Akron (home) or Bristol at ESPN studios. Anywhere else would give away where he's signing, and kind of defeat the purpose of a 1 hour special.

[Rockefella]

I bet he'll do it in Akron (home) or Bristol at ESPN studios. Anywhere else would give away where he's signing, and kind of defeat the purpose of a 1 hour special.

I think doing it from home would guarantee a Cavs signing. He's not going to stand in front of his hometown faithful - Cleveland's last hope - and say, 'fuck y'all I'm goin to Miami'

[ToonWalker]

The whole thing is kind of bizarre.

only 2 things can happen:
There will be a big production, an hour-long show, and all basketball fans waiting with held breath....just so he can say "Ha, I'm just staying in Cleveland. Nothing's changed. Good night everybody!"

OR, there will be an entire show culminating in "Fuck you Cleveland, live on ESPN! My home state can lick on my balls, cuz the King is gettin' PAID!"

Either way, it'll be awesome. (BTW, it's either Cleveland or --crossing fingers-- the Knicks).

[kinghenry89]

I think doing it from home would guarantee a Cavs signing. He's not going to stand in front of his hometown faithful - Cleveland's last hope - and say, 'fuck y'all I'm goin to Miami'
You're probably right. But how freaking awesome would that be?

[624]

I bet he'll do it in Akron (home) or Bristol at ESPN studios. Anywhere else would give away where he's signing, and kind of defeat the purpose of a 1 hour special.

I think he should have the show in Newark.

[Poeman]

Chris_Broussard

Knicks gaining major ground in LeBron Sweepstakes. Bosh snub hurts Cavs, though they're still in hunt

[Poeman]

I think he should have the show in Newark.

Bristol would be the best and neutral site.

[TommyGreen]

I remember Bill Simmons writing about how it would be funny if LeBron televised his decision live. This is hilarious.

[kinghenry89]

How awesome would it be if Lebron just cut out the middleman and put on an ESPN hat?

They're gonna need someone to anchor Carmelo watch 2011...

[624]

What if he puts on a Cleveland Browns hat?

[soxxx]

Dude i'm so happy its over. He's going to NY.

He's obviously already made his decision. It came down to NY or Cleveland. I firmly believe that when Bosh basically said that theirs no way i'm going to Cleveland then Lebron mad his decision to go to NY. So then Lebrons crew then contacted ESPN, etc. that thursday they would like a show.

Its funny because early dismorning all I heard was Lebron was trying to recruit Bosh to Cleveland but then when heard that Bosh didn't want to go to Cleveland, which in my belief killed Clevelands chances. Then Lebron decided it was the Knicks.

Bosh and Wade also probably informed James that they are going to Miami. So Lebron was left with the Knicks as the best possible option. If he decided to go to the Bulls, no one was going with him. Most of the free agents are gone. And after last nights report of Derick Rose saying he preffered Joe Johnson over Lebron really hurt their chances.

I will be shocked if its not the Knicks. And if its not the Knicks then its the Cavs...

[624]

Dude i'm so happy its over. He's going to NY.

He's obviously already made his decision. It came down to NY or Cleveland. I firmly believe that when Bosh basically said that theirs no way i'm going to Cleveland then Lebron mad his decision to go to NY. So then Lebrons crew then contacted ESPN, etc. that thursday they would like a show.

Its funny because early dismorning all I heard was Lebron was trying to recruit Bosh to Cleveland but then when heard that Bosh didn't want to go to Cleveland, which in my belief killed Clevelands chances. Then Lebron decided it was the Knicks.

Bosh and Wade also probably informed James that they are going to Miami. So Lebron was left with the Knicks as the best possible option. If he decided to go to the Bulls, no one was going with him. Most of the free agents are gone. And after last nights report of Derick Rose saying he preffered Joe Johnson over Lebron really hurt their chances.

I will be shocked if its not the Knicks. And if its not the Knicks then its the Cavs...

I'm not even going to watch anymore, soxxx knows the truth.


(/sarcasm, you have no idea)

[Poeman]

Lebron utilizing the Joker philosophy
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[SettlerDawg]

If the press conference is in Cleveland, he's going to Cleveland. If not, someone in Akron should check the surroundings of Lebron's house to see if there are any additional security guards hanging around. Then we know he's going elsewhere. I think it should be pretty obvious where he's going a few hours before the announcement.

[EcKo151]

Soxx I would love for you to convince me on this optimism. I think the Knicks have a shot...But to guarantee it? Man I hope so.

[624]

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[SettlerDawg]

75% he stays in Cleveland
25% he goes to the Knicks

That is all.

[624]

75% he stays in Cleveland
25% he goes to the Knicks

That is all.

Mine is...

45% Cleveland
28% NJ
20% NY
6% Chiacgo
1% LAC

[jtrain]

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Whenever there is a vacuum of information, rumors begin to surface. When it was reported that LeBron James would be waiting until the conclusion of his Akron basketball camp on Wednesday to make his decision, it gave the basketball world several days to churn out different scenarios and rumors and nobody seemed to be on the same page.

But in the last twenty-four hours, there have been lot of rumblings indicating that James could be leaning towards New York and reviving the Knicks with Amar'e Stoudemire.

Several sources indicated that James' advisors Maverick Carter and Randy Mims could be travelling to New York on Wednesday and sources have hinted that James will be joining them for the trip. Sources also said that Carter and Mims have been picking the Knicks' brains for details and information on their salary cap and free agent plans over the past few days.


There have also been rumblings that the Knicks could be planning a large press conference for later this week. While the team should be officially announcing Stoudemire's five-year, $97 million contract signing, likely on Thursday, the scale of the event and extensive planning going into the press conferences indicates that something bigger may be happening in the Big Apple.

After being written off by the mainstream media throughout the free agency process, it appears that New York is still very alive in the LeBron sweepstakes. Many believe that the second meeting with New York and the addition of Amar'e Stoudemire to the Knicks' roster improved their pitch to the point that James could be leaning towards New York.

One source pointed out that Donnie Walsh is not a massive risk taker and that signing Stoudemire all by himself seemed out of character. The idea that James and Stoudemire are coming as a package deal makes more sense and lines up more with Walsh's approach.

Sources add that New York has also been linked to Raymond Felton but it's clear that James is the priority.


Hope this is true

[jtrain]

Mine is...

45% Cleveland
28% NJ
20% NY
6% Chiacgo
1% LAC

why the hell would he stay in CLeveland. Shaq is gone and Bosh does not want to go there. WHo is he going to team up with. Come on!

[statjeff22]

Just when you think this whole thing can't get any more absurdly awesome, someone ups the ante. This entire process has vastly exceeded my expectations for entertainment and hilarity.

[624]

why the hell would he stay in CLeveland. Shaq is gone and Bosh does not want to go there. WHo is he going to team up with. Come on!

I stopped reading when you said "Shaq is gone" like that has any implications.

[SettlerDawg]

Just read from another board that the location of the press conference won't be in any of the contending cities. This could bode well for the Knicks, Nets, and Bulls.

[624]

Just read from another board that the location of the press conference won't be in any of the contending cities. This could bode well for the Knicks, Nets, and Bulls.

Good, and I like your sig.

[ToonWalker]

75% he stays in Cleveland
25% he goes to the Knicks

That is all.

60% Cavs
35% Knicks
5% Miami or Chicago
0% Nets, Clippers

[624]

60% Cavs
35% Knicks
5% Miami or Chicago
0% Nets, Clippers

Whenever I see someone say 0% Nets, all I see is "I AM A KNICKS FAN"

[JohnnyThaJet]

Whenever I see someone say 0% Nets, all I see is "I AM A KNICKS FAN"

Couldn't friggen agree more bro. The Nets have just as good of a chance if not a better one then the Knicks do at this point.

[EcKo151]

Ok cool I'll say it anyway regardless of your reasoning...

LeBron 0% chance to go to the Nets.

[JohnnyThaJet]

Ok cool I'll say it anyway regardless of your reasoning...

LeBron 0% chance to go to the Nets.

:rofl::rofl: What kind of argument is that? Hahaha. That's completely invalid.

[ToonWalker]

Whenever I see someone say 0% Nets, all I see is "I AM A KNICKS FAN"

Haha, guilty.

Just like when I see someone rationalizing why LeBron would want to come to the Nets (a 2nd fiddle team with a new owner, new GM, new coach,coming off the worst record in the NBA), I see "I am a Nets fan".

It's no biggie, it's just being a fan. I realize the Knicks haven't done much for over 3 decades.

[James Hasty]

Ok cool I'll say it anyway regardless of your reasoning...

LeBron 0% chance to go to the Nets.

I feel exactly the same way about the Knicks chances of getting Lebron.

The Nets had good teams with Kidd a lot more recently than the Knicks last good teams when they had Ewing.

[EcKo151]

:rofl::rofl: What kind of argument is that? Hahaha. That's completely invalid.
I've gave my reasoning in this thread or the Knicks thread on why I don't think he's going to the Nets, I'm done with all that at this point, it's all about Thursday night.

I will say I find it absolutely hilarious Broussard is saying "don't be surprised if it's the Knicks"

Dude for weeks and months has berated and pretty much always said LeBron won't go to the Knicks...

[SettlerDawg]

Whenever I see someone say 0% Nets, all I see is "I AM A KNICKS FAN"

75% Cleveland
12.5% New York
12.5% New Jersey

Better?

[EcKo151]

I feel exactly the same way about the Knicks chances of getting Lebron.

The Nets had good teams with Kidd a lot more recently than the Knicks last good teams when they had Ewing.
Here's the difference...

I don't care or get bent out of shape if you say that...Your opinion, doesn't bother me.

Apparently others do.

[624]

75% Cleveland
12.5% New York
12.5% New Jersey

Better?

Yeah that's reasonable.

[Poeman]

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Although I dont want to see that slogan in NY...But what if Nike was sponsoring the Netherlands run at the World Cup and this was the theme :D

[624]

Oh my god he is going to the Raiders:

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[EcKo151]

I think it was said already but I hope he has like 4 NBA hats on the table like high school football recruits.

[jtrain]

I stopped reading when you said "Shaq is gone" like that has any implications.

dude you need to reconsider the teams you think lebron will land. If Lebron wants to win and he says he does then Cleveland is out of the equation because no marque FA want to go there!

Go back to the drawing board kid

and Fuck the Nets

[Poeman]

PDcavsinsider

The location of LeBron's announcement is not expected to be in one of the cities he's considering. Will keep the guessing going. 1 minute ago via web

Hold that

[EcKo151]

I wonder if LeBron would even be prepared to take questions from the media.

The guy is 25, he'll get 9 different ways of someone asking "why this team?"

[Rockefella]

dude you need to reconsider the teams you think lebron will land. If Lebron wants to win and he says he does then Cleveland is out of the equation because no marque FA want to go there!

Go back to the drawing board kid

and Fuck the Nets
You're right. Cleveland is too ghetto.

[624]

dude you need to reconsider the teams you think lebron will land. If Lebron wants to win and he says he does then Cleveland is out of the equation because no marque FA want to go there!

Go back to the drawing board kid

and Fuck the Nets

Do you know less about basketball than football? Wow

[SettlerDawg]

The more Broussard pimps the Knicks, the more I feel Lebron is going to the Cavs. With the announcement taking place on ESPN, ESPN wants every city to feel like they're in the race, and I'm pretty sure they'll keep pumping out rumors to spark everyone's interest.

[JohnnyThaJet]

I think it was said already but I hope he has like 4 NBA hats on the table like high school football recruits.

God that'd feed his ego even more. He's trying to make this so huge it's a little dissapointing since I want him on my team.

But on the other hand I guess this makes sense to clear up any possible ''sources'' columns or rumors by Brussard or any other dumbass reporter that has gained readers during this free agency period to where he ultimately will end up.

[EcKo151]

You're right. Cleveland is too ghetto.
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[EcKo151]

God that'd feed his ego even more. He's trying to make this so huge it's a little dissapointing since I want him on my team.

But on the other hand I guess this makes sense to clear up any possible ''sources'' columns or rumors by Brussard or any other dumbass reporter that has gained readers during this free agency period to where he ultimately will end up.
How hilarious would it be...Looks at a Bulls hat then puts it under the table...3 hats left, looks at the Nets hat, puts it under the table...Then the camera zooms in on the Cavaliers and Knicks hats with LeBron tormenting the decision.

The sources have went to SHIT...My next post I'm going to put the crap I've heard from these NBA insiders...

[JohnnyThaJet]

dude you need to reconsider the teams you think lebron will land. If Lebron wants to win and he says he does then Cleveland is out of the equation because no marque FA want to go there!

Go back to the drawing board kid

and Fuck the Nets

Truly scary. What an idiotic post but weirdly I'm not surprised.

[jtrain]

Do you know less about basketball than football? Wow


Go back to the drawing board.You don't know anything about basketball if you are telling me that he is more likely to stay in cleveland. State your case or shut up

[jtrain]

Truly scary. What an idiotic post but weirdly I'm not surprised.

Silly Net fan. State your case

[JohnnyThaJet]

How hilarious would it be...Looks at a Bulls hat then puts it under the table...3 hats left, looks at the Nets hat, puts it under the table...Then the camera zooms in on the Cavaliers and Knicks hats with LeBron tormenting the decision. Puts the Cavs hat under the table then does the same with the Knicks hat and whips out a gold and diamond encrusted Clippers fitted :up:

The sources have went to SHIT...My next post I'm going to put the crap I've heard from these NBA insiders...

Edited your post :rofl:

[624]

Go back to the drawing board.You don't know anything about basketball if you are telling me that he is more likely to stay in cleveland. State your case or shut up

Cleveland is just his home...he has lived in Ohio his whole life and he might feel some regret if he betrayed all of his dedicated fans.

Plus they had 67 wins last year (without Shaq for most of it, who you still seem to think is 28), so it's not like he's playing for the Timberwolves roster.

[Barry the Baptist]

Seriously I just heard from my cousin's best friend's aunt's former roommate who used to fuck Delonte West at St Joes that LeBron is gonna surprise everybody and sign with Montepaschi in the Italian League.

Honestly the more it drags out the more I think he stays... supposedly this sign and trade is still a possibility and Bosh and James maybe could get something out of Jamison and win the East but I'd still take Kobe/Gasol/Artest over Lebron/Bosh/?

[624]

Lebron's middle name is Raymone, he is going to the Pacers.

[Jetfanmack]

Whenever I see someone say 0% Nets, all I see is "I AM A KNICKS FAN"

No doubt. Knicks fans are funny.

49% Cleveland
19% New Jersey
15% New York
15% Chicago
2% Miami/LAC

[624]

No doubt. Knicks fans are funny.

49% Cleveland
19% New Jersey
15% New York
15% Chicago
2% Miami/LAC

Yes they are, and what's up with the last one? I could say 100% Cleveland/NJ/NY/Chicago/Miami/LAC

[Poeman]

I really want to say that Nets have a chance, and I think they would be at the top right now if the franchise was moving to Brooklyn this year...But I dont think any major star wants to live and play in Newark for 2 years. Especially considering the location for those 2 years and not being able to get the complete max unless its a s&t.

55% Cleveland
30% New York
5% Chicago
5% New Jersey
5% Miami/LAC

[624]

I really want to say that Nets have a chance, and I think they would be at the top right now if the franchise was moving to Brooklyn this year...But I dont think any major star wants to live and play in Newark for 2 years. Especially considering the location for those 2 years and not being able to get the complete max unless its a s&t.

55% Cleveland
30% New York
5% Chicago
5% New Jersey
5% Miami/LAC

Just imagine if the Nets got Wall, moved Harris, and were moving to Brooklyn this year like they were supposed too.....

[jtrain]

It has been clear that LeBron James can not win with the people he has in CLeveland. Solution...add a marque player to the Cavs, team him up with LeBron and Bingo. However, James tried and reached out to Bosh to join him in Cleveland. Bosh said no! I do not want to play in CLeveland. Bosh rather team up with LeBron in Chicago.

Chicago is a great option. Oh wellllll Derrick Rose just said he prefer JJ than LeBron
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and why would LeBron want to stand in the shadow of Jordan.

Now that LeBron chances o landing in Chicago is small. Bosh will most likely team up with wade in Miami and that will catapult Lebron to New York where he has a marque player to make a run for destiny.

[ace_o_spades]

I really want to say that Nets have a chance, and I think they would be at the top right now if the franchise was moving to Brooklyn this year...But I dont think any major star wants to live and play in Newark for 2 years. Especially considering the location for those 2 years and not being able to get the complete max unless its a s&t.

55% Cleveland
30% New York
5% Chicago
5% New Jersey
5% Miami/LAC

The fuck you gotta live in Newark for??

[EcKo151]

ESPN and most insiders call it a GUARANTEE and a lock Dwayne Wade goes to the Heat, that this was the easiest call to make.

Last week "sources" say DWade is leaning towards the Bulls. Now it's back to leaning towards Miami.

Stephen A Smith on his radio show reports that Miami will sign Wade, LeBron, AND Bosh...Few days later on his website Stephen A says this, pretty much trying to spin what bullshit he spewed.
As everyone knows, I reported last week on my morning drive show on Fox Sports Radio that LeBron James would join Dwayne Wade in Miami and take Chris Bosh with him to join the Heat. At the moment, that is still very possible, but there’s been a potentially huge monkey wrench thrown into the equation — with (understandable) greed on the part of Bosh being the main culprit. - Read the rest here.
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Ric Bucher said last week that LeBron would make his decision by July 5th...Well today is July 7th right?

Broussard rarely ever mentioned the Knicks...Said Cleveland Chicago...NOW he says Don't be surprised if it's the Knicks?...Dude even YOU would be surprised if it was the Knicks.

Many more, just off the top of my head.

[Antoni]

I think it was said already but I hope he has like 4 NBA hats on the table like high school football recruits.

Someone on another board was joking that instead of the hats he should use 4-5 headbands.

Anyway, I can't help but laugh at the clip they keep showing on ESPN. The guy has a decent selection of cars but today for some reason he chose the biggest piece of crap that even I would be embarrassed to drive. A hickmobile truck with non proportional chrome rims. It's so bad that the local riceboys are jealous. Maybe even worse than his Hummer monstrosity

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[Poeman]

Just imagine if the Nets got Wall, moved Harris, and were moving to Brooklyn this year like they were supposed too.....

If the Nets landed Wall...They could have essentially traded Harris to clear up 2 max slots or get a legit scorer

[EcKo151]

No doubt. Knicks fans are funny.
Hey at least you enjoy our entertainment.

[EcKo151]

If the Nets landed Wall...They could have essentially traded Harris to clear up 2 max slots or get a legit scorer
Darn those ping pong balls.

[Poeman]

The fuck you gotta live in Newark for??

Play in Newark...They can live in NYC if they want. But come on if you were a recruit you wouldnt want to play in Newark over Chicago, New York, and to a lesser degree Miami...Its just bad timing for Newark...When Brooklyn opens up, I think the Nets will blossom.

[Rockefella]

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[Poeman]

LeBron doesn't need you, New York
Not all stars pine for NYC or the Knicks -- and the King is plenty big, as is
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May 22, 2010, 11:39 PM ET

You all remember this?

[jtrain]

Cleveland is just his home...he has lived in Ohio his whole life and he might feel some regret if he betrayed all of his dedicated fans.

Plus they had 67 wins last year (without Shaq for most of it, who you still seem to think is 28), so it's not like he's playing for the Timberwolves roster.

dude, i think shaq should retire. I'm just saying shaq is looking to go elsewhere and james still will be in the same boat as before. Rationally looking into the Lebron Saga...One thought comes to mind. "I want to win." He cannot win in CLeveland...Jordan would have never won those rings if he did not have Pippen....LeBron needs someone else and none of the Marque players want to go to Cleveland. Toronto agreed to a sign and trade for Bosh and Bosh basically refused cause it would of went down by now. and bosh said that he rather team up with Bron in Chicago.

Come on and the Nets....Let's be real. LeBron wants to win and Chicago and NY gives him the best chance of doing so. However chicago has more of a downside when you consider James walking in the shadow of an all-time great and their starting point guard telling the media he prefers Joe Johnson to Lebron. Lets be real, New York has more upside, LeBron will make over $1 billion being right her in my city and Lebron has Amar'e to play next to and rumors has it Carmelo would want to join next year when Eddy Curry's contract come off the books. Lets not forget that tony parker wants to come here as well (David Lee sign and trade)


Kick rocks Net fans

[ace_o_spades]

Play in Newark...They can live in NYC if they want. But come on if you were a recruit you wouldnt want to play in Newark over Chicago, New York, and to a lesser degree Miami...Its just bad timing for Newark...When Brooklyn opens up, I think the Nets will blossom.

Those are all fair points, I was just saying there's no need for anybody that plays on the Nets to live in Newark.

[EcKo151]

1 15 James, Wade, Bosh Conference Call
By Myles A. Mills on Jul 06, 2010, 11:47 pm

Via Yahoo:

“LeBron James(notes), Dwyane Wade(notes) and Chris Bosh(notes) are expected to share a conference call on Wednesday to discuss free agency and try to move closer to finalizing their decisions, a league source with knowledge of the plan told Yahoo! Sports.”

This should probably be a two way call with Wade and Lebron. A text should do for Bosh. Again, the guy’s never won a playoff series before.

Lebron: Yo, man, what are you guys thinking?
Wade: I want to stay in Miami, man, I like it here.
Bosh: Yeah, Miami, I like it there too.
Lebron: But NY has a lot of opportunities.
Bosh: Yeah, NY has a lot of opportunities!
Lebron: Chicago has some nice young talent, what do you think about Chicago, Dwyane?
Bosh: I like Chicago.
Lebron: Dwyane?
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1 15 James, Wade, Bosh Conference Call
By Myles A. Mills on Jul 06, 2010, 11:47 pm

Via Yahoo:

“LeBron James(notes), Dwyane Wade(notes) and Chris Bosh(notes) are expected to share a conference call on Wednesday to discuss free agency and try to move closer to finalizing their decisions, a league source with knowledge of the plan told Yahoo! Sports.”

This should probably be a two way call with Wade and Lebron. A text should do for Bosh. Again, the guy’s never won a playoff series before.

Lebron: Yo, man, what are you guys thinking?
Wade: I want to stay in Miami, man, I like it here.
Bosh: Yeah, Miami, I like it there too.
Lebron: But NY has a lot of opportunities.
Bosh: Yeah, NY has a lot of opportunities!
Lebron: Chicago has some nice young talent, what do you think about Chicago, Dwyane?
Bosh: I like Chicago.
Lebron: Dwyane?
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TheKnicksBlog has been just about the only good thing about the July 1st media storm. Tommy Dee and company have done an exemplary job.

[624]

dude, i think shaq should retire. I'm just saying shaq is looking to go elsewhere and james still will be in the same boat as before. Rationally looking into the Lebron Saga...One thought comes to mind. "I want to win." He cannot win in CLeveland...Jordan would have never won those rings if he did not have Pippen....LeBron needs someone else and none of the Marque players want to go to Cleveland. Toronto agreed to a sign and trade for Bosh and Bosh basically refused cause it would of went down by now. and bosh said that he rather team up with Bron in Chicago.

Come on and the Nets....Let's be real. LeBron wants to win and Chicago and NY gives him the best chance of doing so. However chicago has more of a downside when you consider James walking in the shadow of an all-time great and their starting point guard telling the media he prefers Joe Johnson to Lebron. Lets be real, New York has more upside, LeBron will make over $1 billion being right her in my city and Lebron has Amar'e to play next to and rumors has it Carmelo would want to join next year when Eddy Curry's contract come off the books. Lets not forget that tony parker wants to come here as well (David Lee sign and trade)


Kick rocks Net fans

Stop being biased for a second and realize that the Knicks do NOT have more talent than the Nets. Now and especially in the future.

Carmelo is expected to sign with Denver soon and the richest owner and one of the richest men in the world blue printed Lebron's steps to becoming a billionaire, I would take his advice over anyones.

[kinghenry89]

Stop being biased for a second and realize that the Knicks do NOT have more talent than the Nets. Now and especially in the future.

Carmelo is expected to sign with Denver soon and the richest owner and one of the richest men in the world blue printed Lebron's steps to becoming a billionaire, I would take his advice over anyones.
I'm pretty sure that following the blueprint that got Prokhorov rich in the immediate aftermath of Perestroika would land Lebron in prison.

[Green Lantern]

Only one of these cities can provide him with a moat for his castle and this guy gets off on his royal image. If he chooses anywhere other than NY, ESPN won't keep worlwide viewers past the first commercial break so I think ESPN is already in on it.
Plus, if he's only staying in Cleveland...why wouldn't he just do it from his camp before they break Wednesday. This guy's leaving Ohio on Wednesday night to meet up with his cronies in the Empire State.

[Antoni]

dude, i think shaq should retire. I'm just saying shaq is looking to go elsewhere and james still will be in the same boat as before.

Shaq will be with a) whoever he hasn't already burned bridges with(LA, Orlando, Miami, Phoenix) and b) someone who has a decent shot at winning. If LeBron is back in CLE, so is Shaq. Personally, I'm hoping Shaq signs with Boston. That will all but guarantee that #34 isn't getting lifted in Staples so long as Buss is alive, and will probably end up alongside Jordan and Marino in Miami. A total joke, but very fitting.

[desert swordz]

Lmao at anyone who thinks RIGHT NOW, as is, the Nets have a better chance of landing LeBron than the Knicks do lol.

Obviously there are going to be a bunch of Knick fans who say "Oooo we're getting LeBron!!" but at the same time I know/have seen a bunch of fans who don't think we're gonna land King James. I don't think we're getting LeBron. However I don't see LeBron to the Knicks as such a farfetch'd scenario. We have the cap to sign him to a max, we have Amar'e, Douglas, Gallo, Wilson, Walker, Rautins, Jerome Jordan. Amar'e is Amar'e, in his time as a starter Douglas showed he could run the point but there's still obvious questions, Gallo is nice, Wilson is pretty alright, Rautins is a great shooter and will be depth along with Walker and Jerome Jordan. We have NYC. We have Curry's expiring deal. You really don't think this would interest LeBron in the least?

All LeBron has to do is reach out and agree to the deal, and he'd be a Knick.

Nets have Harris, Lopez, Favors, TWill, CLee. Lopez is nice, Harris is alright. Favors has potential but is a question. TWill and CLee are ok depth. Only room for 1 max contract right now. If they want LeBron they'd have to get Bosh here.

For the Nets to end up with LeBron, they'd hafta get Bosh to agree to go to Newark for 2 years, then they'd hafta S&T for him which would probably include a piece of 2 of that young talent which all Net fans seem to praise so much, then they'd hafta move Humphries contract, and THEN LeBron could agree to go to NJ.

If they somehow end up getting Bosh then yeah everything changes. But seriously, the Nets having a better chance than the Knicks RIGHT now?

I've only seen a few Net fans logically back up their claims on why they feel LeBron is going to NJ. The rest just write up these mock scenarios where everything just falls perfectly in NJ's favor as they explain why he's going to end up a Net, and I must admit it's pretty funny. It must make them feel better I guess. I think it's even funnier when said fans claim NY fans are the ones spewing BS??? LOL

Anyway I'm really getting tired of this entire FA period, of all the rumours and speculative bullshit. The past week has cemented my view on LeBron James as a corny attention whore

[Cakes]

Bosh and Wade will play for Miami next season.

[ToonWalker]

Bosh and Wade will play for Miami next season.

If this news is true (supposedly an announcement will come today), then I think the Knicks' chances just went up.

Now I believe:

45% Cleveland
40% Knicks
10% Chicago
5% Miami (please Lord, no)

[17a_tailgater]

Oh my god he is going to the Raiders:

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ha ha awesome 624 awesome

[JfaulkNYJ]

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Also if he signs somewhere other than Cleveland tomorrow expect rape, murder, suicide, crime...etc.

[Green Hurricane]

If the Heat-Wade/Bosh rumor is true, then I'd put the percentages something like this:

Knicks 50% - Only team with the 2 available.
Nets 25%- Would be able to get 2-3 good players with the 2nd max money.
Cavs 13%- Still no help, almost no shot.
Chicago 10%- D-Rose doesn't want you, LeBron.
Heat 2%- The one city he'd never be the man, sorry, no chance.

[Green Hurricane]

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Also if he signs somewhere other than Cleveland tomorrow expect rape, murder, suicide, crime...etc.

That implies that:

A. People would still go to Cavs games Post-LeBron.

and B. The city wouldn't burn down within 2 weeks of his departure.

[KOZ]

Also if he signs somewhere other than Cleveland tomorrow expect rape, murder, suicide, crime...etc.

It would be just like any other day in scenic Cleveland.

[desert swordz]

Nets have NO chance of getting LeBron now, sorry. You had to get Bosh. Like I've been saying I'll eat my words if it happens, but now it looks like it's not going to happen. No way LeBron goes to the Nets.

Carlos Boozer? Bron-bron's played with him before. David Lee? Bahaa.

It's between Chi-Town and NY now. I don't think Chicago's FO will pull the reigns on their pursuit of LeBron just because D-Rose SUPPOSEDLY wouldn't like to play with him.

They'd be dumb to lessen their pursuit too; they have the cap for 1 max available to sign him and LeBron is the player of his generation.

[JfaulkNYJ]

It would be just like any other day in scenic Cleveland.

lol. Cleveland may become a terrorist type location in USA and try to bomb new york

[kbgreen]

Nets have NO chance of getting LeBron now, sorry. You had to get Bosh. Like I've been saying I'll eat my words if it happens, but now it looks like it's not going to happen. No way LeBron goes to the Nets.

Carlos Boozer? Bron-bron's played with him before. David Lee? Bahaa.

It's between Chi-Town and NY now. I don't think Chicago's FO will pull the reigns on their pursuit of LeBron just because D-Rose SUPPOSEDLY wouldn't like to play with him.

They'd be dumb to lessen their pursuit too; they have the cap for 1 max available to sign him and LeBron is the player of his generation.

I actually think now that he will either end up in cleveland (50%) or NYC (37.5%) and too a much lessor degree chicago (12.5%). Cleveland did not improve at all but it is his home and he has strong ties there. NYC pulled a rabbit out of their butt by landing Amare. Chicago and NJ look to be the biggest loosers in this crap shoot.

[J.E.T. Tone Holmes]

take this with a big wooden spoon of salt ...

LeBron James(notes), Dwyane Wade(notes) and Chris Bosh(notes) are expected to share a conference call on Wednesday to discuss free agency and try to move closer to finalizing their decisions, a league source with knowledge of the plan told Yahoo! Sports.

The three players are motivated to reach resolutions and make their choices public by Thursday, several sources told Yahoo! Sports. The stars and their agents with CAA continued on Tuesday to churn through numerous machinations and possibilities.

"Everything is still in play,” the source said.

James has the Cleveland Cavaliers, Chicago Bulls and New Jersey Nets as his top three choices, sources said. Still, Cleveland has reemerged as the leader to keep James and Cavaliers officials are confident the two-time MVP will choose to re-sign with them.

The three players have strongly discussed playing together in Miami, and Bosh and Wade are considering playing together there as well as in Chicago or New Jersey, sources said. Wade hasn’t committed to re-signing in Miami and is still strongly considering the Bulls. He is intrigued with the talent that would surround him with the Bulls, as well as family considerations that would benefit from proximity to his ex-wife and children in Illinois.

Chicago and New Jersey need to make deals to eliminate more salary off their cap to accommodate two maximum contract players.


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[hazmat]

take this with a big wooden spoon of salt ...



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He's been writing the same crap every day....

[J.E.T. Tone Holmes]

then theres this ...

It’s crunch time for the Nets. It’s a countdown to Thursday at 9 p.m., when LeBron will announce his decision on ESPN during an hour-long special. That’s right. T-O-M-O-R-R-O-W. As much hoopla went into process, it’d be disappointing if LeBron didn’t proclaim his intentions with fireworks, dancers, flamingoes, white doves and an orchestra playing the "Superman" theme in the background. Actually, that's pretty much what we should expect.

It wasn’t too long ago that the Nets practiced at a truck stop in North Bergen. Derrick Coleman and Kenny Anderson had to compete with off-duty drivers for locker-room space.

Now it’s different. Now they’re funded by a gazillionaire. Now they’re ready to compete with the Knicks for metropolitan supremacy, right? But where are the orchestrators of the Blueprint at such a landmark time in the franchise’s history?

Owner Mikhail Prokhorov has been partying in Turkey and will leave today, according to this Turkish website. Spokesman/minority owner Jay-Z was in London for a concert on July 4 and is scheduled for another in Ireland on July 11.

Hmm. You’d figure both would be in town if the King were choosing Newark. …Let’s see if they suddenly free up their schedules. Feel free to leave your thoughts on how LeBron should present his decision. ...


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[Doogstein]

YEA!!!!!!! Heat get Wade and Bosh!!!!!! That's fucking awesome. I can't wait to go to some games this year and watch a brand new Heat team ball out. Now it's waiting on who they sign to fill out the rest of the roster.

[EcKo151]

Chris Broussard just said on Sportscenter that Miami is now the front-runner, and LeBron is expected to join them.

This guy is a total fucking tool-bag. He's a flat out loser.

[Green Hurricane]

Chris Broussard just said on Sportscenter that Miami is now the front-runner, and LeBron is expected to join them.

This guy is a total fucking tool-bag. He's a flat out loser.

I think if every other team in the league folded, Broussard would say LeBron was going D-League over the Knicks. I don't know what the Knicks did to him, but man does he hate them. And this is coming from a Nets fan.

[EcKo151]

I think if every other team in the league folded, Broussard would say LeBron was going D-League over the Knicks. I don't know what the Knicks did to him, but man does he hate them. And this is coming from a Nets fan.
Just yesterday he said don't be surprised if LeBron chooses the Knicks!

So he went from hating them, to saying they could land him, now expected to sign with Miami?:breakdance:

[EcKo151]

Side note...

Kevin Durant agrees to 5 year extension with Oklahoma City.

[Barry the Baptist]

Side note...

Kevin Durant agrees to 5 year extension with Oklahoma City.

Well nice to know he won't be coming to BK in a few years.... smart move by the Thunder, now only if they can somebody to play with him they'll be scary.

[milo]

We have finally reached the pinnacle of off-season stupidity:

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This may be more annoying than Farve-watch.

For the love of God please let it be August...

[The Dark Knight]

Who cares about the Heat?

Anyway, this makes the entire league a what? 4 team race?

Magic
Celtics
Heat
Lakers

[Mr Electric]

Who cares about the Heat?

Anyway, this makes the entire league a what? 4 team race?

Magic
Celtics
Heat
Lakers

Wherever LeBron goes has to be added to that list. I don't care if he has help or not, he'll carry his team deep into the playoffs like always - he just won't win a championship without a little help.

[jtrain]

It is official

DWADE and BOSH will team up in Miami

Which means Knicks chances of landing James is 100X better, if it wasn't already

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CHicago looks like the odd one out!!!!!! and those Nets just had no chance

[The Dark Knight]

Wherever LeBron goes has to be added to that list. I don't care if he has help or not, he'll carry his team deep into the playoffs like always - he just won't win a championship without a little help.

I just assumed he would go to the Heat now.

[17a_tailgater]

It is official

DWADE and BOSH will team up in Miami

Which means Knicks chances of landing James is 100X better, if it wasn't already

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CHicago looks like the odd one out!!!!!! and those Nets just had no chance

it snot official.
a source....chris broussard.....
he has changed his answer 36 times this week along.
wake me up when there is a press conference

[JetBlue]

Who cares about the Heat?

Anyway, this makes the entire league a what? 4 team race?

Magic
Celtics
Heat
Lakers

the Heat aren't anywhere near the top of the league, even with Bosh.

[kinghenry89]

it snot official.
a source....chris broussard.....
he has changed his answer 36 times this week along.
wake me up when there is a press conference
Wade and Bosh are both talking about it with Mike Wilbon on ESPN right now. It's a done deal.

[mj2sexay]

It is official

DWADE and BOSH will team up in Miami

Which means Knicks chances of landing James is 100X better, if it wasn't already

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CHicago looks like the odd one out!!!!!! and those Nets just had no chance

While I agree with you that chicago missed out on the principle targets, a starting 5 of rose, either allen/rasual butler/korver, deng, lee and noah is still better then anything you'll be putting on the court.

we'll really miss out if we give boozer a lot of money. FUCK that.

[624]

What if no one wants to trade for Beasley to clear up room for James just so those 3 don't play on the same team?

[JohnnyThaJet]

The Nets NEED to make a move fast. Enough with this bullshit, they need to sign a top guy or make a fantastic trade to enticed LeBron. IF not im afraid he'll be Cleavland or Knick bound :/

[jtrain]

The Nets NEED to make a move fast. Enough with this bullshit, they need to sign a top guy or make a fantastic trade to enticed LeBron. IF not im afraid he'll be Cleavland or Knick bound :/

Be afraid...Be very Afraid!!!!!!!!!

[jtrain]

Oh this is going to hurt all of you non-knick fans a lot.................



LeBron James was in communication with Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony on Tuesday night.

"LeBron James in contact with Carmelo & Amare last night, according to an ESPNNewYork.com source," Ian O'Connor wrote on his Twitter page. "Carmelo pushing Knicks hard."



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[JohnnyThaJet]

[QUOTE=jtrain;1749049]Oh this is going to hurt all of you non-knick fans a lot.................



LeBron James was in communication with Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony on Tuesday night.

"LeBron James in contact with Carmelo & Amare last night, according to an ESPNNewYork.com source," Ian O'Connor wrote on his Twitter page. "Carmelo pushing Knicks hard."



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Amare said He was going to call Lebron? So more like Amare has been pushing Lebron but Lebron has already made his choice.

[JohnnyThaJet]

Also it has been said on WFAN that if LeBron were to go back to the Cavs it'd be on a two year deal only.

IF he does go back to the Cavs that ultimately sets him up for Brooklyn where he'd want Paul ( a free agent in 2012) to come with him.

[EcKo151]

Francesa blasting the Nets PR department...rofl.

[ToonWalker]

Just yesterday he said don't be surprised if LeBron chooses the Knicks!

So he went from hating them, to saying they could land him, now expected to sign with Miami?:breakdance:

To be fair, he still said don't be surprised if it's the Knicks.

In his view, though, Miami are the front-runners.
He acknowledges that nobody knows for sure.

[EcKo151]

Just last week on the free agency show, a "summit" if you will...Broussard said Chicago and Cleveland are the top teams for LeBron.

He's gone everywhere.

[ToonWalker]

Just last week on the free agency show, a "summit" if you will...Broussard said Chicago and Cleveland are the top teams for LeBron.

He's gone everywhere.

Haha, true.

The whole clusterfuck is pretty entertaining.
I like how Bucher has basically vanished after all of his pulled-from-his-ass "insights".

[J.E.T. Tone Holmes]

The Nets NEED to make a move fast. Enough with this bullshit, they need to sign a top guy or make a fantastic trade to enticed LeBron. IF not im afraid he'll be Cleavland or Knick bound :/

no they dont. that is what teams who lose out on their prize in FA do every year and they end up over paying for players.

if the nets dont get their targets, they need to sign two vets, a shooter and a pf to form the big man rotation. then theyll have a shot at getting someone next year and will also have a shot at another top pick

you win in this league with superstars. if they cant get em through FA, theyll have to wait and see if the picks become superstars

[mj2sexay]

^ yep. this is EXACTLY why im afraid chicago might do something stupid and offer the max to Boozer. He's not a max player.

[17a_tailgater]

no they dont. that is what teams who lose out on their prize in FA do every year and they end up over paying for players.

if the nets dont get their targets, they need to sign two vets, a shooter and a pf to form the big man rotation. then theyll have a shot at getting someone next year and will also have a shot at another top pick

you win in this league with superstars. if they cant get em through FA, theyll have to wait and see if the picks become superstars
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only mello and durant are worthy and durant reportly took a 5 year extension.

[GridIron]

At this point I think it is definitely a "possibility" that Lebron might come to the knicks with the Amare trade and what not.. I was checking out this video of things hes said about the knicks and hes definitely been considering them.. but there is no indication that he is leaning toward them.. i still think its a tossup

[JohnnyThaJet]

^ yep. this is EXACTLY why im afraid chicago might do something stupid and offer the max to Boozer. He's not a max player.

They might as well offer Lee the Max if that's the case.

[Barry the Baptist]

no they dont. that is what teams who lose out on their prize in FA do every year and they end up over paying for players.

if the nets dont get their targets, they need to sign two vets, a shooter and a pf to form the big man rotation. then theyll have a shot at getting someone next year and will also have a shot at another top pick

you win in this league with superstars. if they cant get em through FA, theyll have to wait and see if the picks become superstars

Exactly... guys like Adonal Foyle, Brian Cardinal and Darko are prime examples of terrible players being given huge contracts by awful teams. I trust that Pro and Jay Z aren't going to dish out big bucks for some schlub. I'm sure they know if they fail to sign anybody thsi year it'll be an other year with ashot at the #1 overall pick and in 2 years a new crop of FA's will be available.

[mj2sexay]

They might as well offer Lee the Max if that's the case.

I'm not giving Lee the max. 5 years at 55-60 million is fine but im not giving 90 million dollars to David Lee.

I'm extremely pissed. But if the Bulls can come out of free agency getting Lee for that type of money plus Mike Miller and augment the bench, we still have a SICK starting 5.

[Barry the Baptist]

Francesa blasting the Nets PR department...rofl.

Why is he blasting the Nets? I can't believe he even knows the Nets exist

[Jetfanmack]

I admit, I'm a little worried LeBron goes to the Knicks now.

[jtrain]

I admit, I'm a little worried LeBron goes to the Knicks now.


You should of been worried 2 years ago

[jtrain]

JaredDudley619

Breaking News!!! My sources tell me Lebron will announce that he will be goin to the NY KNICKS tomorrow on ESPN.. This is serious.. WOW!!!!

he tweeted this...

[JohnnyThaJet]

JaredDudley619

Breaking News!!! My sources tell me Lebron will announce that he will be goin to the NY KNICKS tomorrow on ESPN.. This is serious.. WOW!!!!

he tweeted this...

Seems like a sad plea to gain more followers....

[JohnnyThaJet]

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Not so happy about this Id rather sign Lee if I were the Nets but will see what happens

[Green Hurricane]

JaredDudley619

Breaking News!!! My sources tell me Lebron will announce that he will be goin to the NY KNICKS tomorrow on ESPN.. This is serious.. WOW!!!!

he tweeted this...

When news breaks, Jared Dudley is there. He's like the male Katie Couric.

[jtrain]

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The Knicks organization called me and said, 'Yo Joe, we're trying to get Amar'e.' By the way, he's my favorite player, no hype! That's who I wanted to come to New York. It's been a long time since New York had a guy to dunk on people, pound his chest, go crazy. That's my type of player. Hard body. So they was like, 'Joe, we want you to call him up, start talking to him. Tell him to come to the city, tell him how beautiful the city is.' 'Mare, I've known him for years — since he came in the league as rookie."

When I called [Amar'e], he was like, 'Fat Joe.' He already knew it was me," Joe recalled. "I was like, 'We need you, we need you!' I did my greatest Khaled rendition ever created. 'I gotta have you. You're killing me, I'm gonna die. I need oxygen!' He was like, 'Joe calm down. It might happen. Calm down.' It was a great experience."

And then this little tid-bit:

There's been a lot of pressure on the Knicks organization to pull something off and they told me last night, 'We're not done, Joe.' I'm like, 'Please man, I got my guy Amar'e, but we need a team around him as well.'

[ace_o_spades]

Not so happy about this Id rather sign Lee if I were the Nets but will see what happens

This has all the makings for disaster for the Nets...they overpay give Boozer 85-90 million James still doesn't sign and we're left with Boozer making 20 million in 5 years

[Barry the Baptist]

JaredDudley619

Breaking News!!! My sources tell me Lebron will announce that he will be goin to the NY KNICKS tomorrow on ESPN.. This is serious.. WOW!!!!

he tweeted this...

No offense but how the hell would some bench warmer know this?

[mj2sexay]

Not so happy about this Id rather sign Lee if I were the Nets but will see what happens

no! no! son of a bitch no!

unless boozer-rose-noah-deng convinces LeBron that the dynasty can indeed happen, i want no part of that son of a bitch. would rather pay the combo of lee-ray allen or mike miller.

[Gatorfan4114]

Ochocinco says its the knicks too. Both from Ohio so maybe he knows something.

[JohnnyThaJet]

My thinking is the only way the Nets tempt LeBron at this point is if we trade Humphries to free up cap space then find some way to get CP3 here.

Honestly it sounds nuts and Im really not getting desperate BUT LeBron and CP3 have such a brotherly bond that the moment something that big could happen for the Nets he has to sign here.

A trade of Harris, Favors, and picks for CP3 and Okafor wold ultimately do it. If not then I think Lebron goes back to Cleveland on a 2 year deal when CP3's contract is up.

[jtrain]

No offense but how the hell would some bench warmer know this?

I think it's bull shit. I believe he feels just like us that LeBron has no other choice but to go to NY now after how everything panned out with the other FAs...However, He is Amare's ex teammate but I doubt Amar'e informed him about anything if LeBron gave him his answer.

[624]

All of these sources are complete bullshit. Everyone has to realize that the idea of this show is to add a surprise factor too it, they are going to do everything they can to make it seem like every team has a chance, and they will not release the real info until 9pm Thursday. (Maybe more like 9:59)

All of you people guaranteeing things just makes me laugh, it's all speculation as it has been for 2 years...

[jtrain]

My thinking is the only way the Nets tempt LeBron at this point is if we trade Humphries to free up cap space then find some way to get CP3 here.

Honestly it sounds nuts and Im really not getting desperate BUT LeBron and CP3 have such a brotherly bond that the moment something that big could happen for the Nets he has to sign here.

A trade of Harris, Favors, and picks for CP3 and Okafor wold ultimately do it. If not then I think Lebron goes back to Cleveland on a 2 year deal when CP3's contract is up.



I love your "if not scenerio" don't even give the KNICKS a chance. SMH. You just say he goes back to Cleveland. WHat is he going back to Cleveland for? For more FAs to decide they don't want to play there in 2 years. This MAN wants to win and he wants to win NOW. SOn the days of Kerry Kittles Randall Gay, Marbury and Keith VAN Horn are history....Fade in to the abyss...Knicks will take good care of him in NY

[jtrain]

This website is used for forecasting events:
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It is pretty accurate. People buy and sell "shares" used to predict outcomes. The market had been trading LeBron staying over leaving, but now it is now trending downward. It is more in line with him leaving.

[ace_o_spades]

I love your "if not scenerio" don't even give the KNICKS a chance. SMH. You just say he goes back to Cleveland. WHat is he going back to Cleveland for? For more FAs to decide they don't want to play there in 2 years. This MAN wants to win and he wants to win NOW. SOn the days of Kerry Kittles Randall Gay, Marbury and Keith VAN Horn are history....Fade in to the abyss...Knicks will take good care of him in NY

He's stating his opinion, asshat. Your opinion is he goes to the Knicks, his opinion is he goes to Cleveland.

[JohnnyThaJet]

I love your "if not scenerio" don't even give the KNICKS a chance. SMH. You just say he goes back to Cleveland. WHat is he going back to Cleveland for? For more FAs to decide they don't want to play there in 2 years. This MAN wants to win and he wants to win NOW. SOn the days of Kerry Kittles Randall Gay, Marbury and Keith VAN Horn are history....Fade in to the abyss...Knicks will take good care of him in NY

First of all if you actually read the post completely without just thinking HEY NOO KNICKS! Then youd see I said In my opinion. Right now even with Amare the Knicks arent a complete team what so ever, neither are the Heat, the only two complete teams with that one SF piece missing is The Nets and Bulls but Im saying Im thinking he signs back with the Cavs because he wants to play with Chris Paul, honestly

[jtrain]

He's stating his opinion, asshat. Your opinion is he goes to the Knicks, his opinion is he goes to Cleveland.

Why is this idiot talking to me? Every post here is someone's opinion fool. Rationally looking at what he said his opinion is flawed...Must we continue??

[EcKo151]

All of these sources are complete bullshit.
I realized this like 3 weeks ago when everything just started blowing up in their own faces.

Stephen A Smith is still sticking by his story that LeBron is going to Miami.