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asbcheeks
03-19-2010, 09:19 AM
Mark Jackson to St. John's, Dan Hurley to Seton Hall. Done and done.
Seth Greenberg would be a good pickup for either program. He's gotta be bored in Blacksburg by now.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 09:23 AM
Mark Jackson to St. John's, Dan Hurley to Seton Hall. Done and done.
No way SJU hires MJ, my guess is they hire someone who is currently a head coach.
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 09:24 AM
Horrible job by the Big East teams! What is unexpected is that those 3 teams were all playing well at the end of the year and Nova the team that has been playing horrible pulled one out despite their coach.
I think SU will come out of this weekend with two wins. The cupboard is not totally bare, the freshman (Riley) can give them defensive minutes and the team has alot of players that can score! They basically loose their second banger in the post, which makes their front court like everyone elses. Joseph is a quality player and this lineup will look to run a little more. I actually like Trish in this game because of his size and strength agaist a little jitterbug guard.
I wasn't surprised with Marquette, I think I picked U Dub in every bracket. Then again I saw a lot more of Washington then most of you guys so to me it wasn't an upset.
Obviously it wasn't so much that the Hoyas lost but that they got blown out by an Ohio team that had a losing conference record in one of the weaker conferences in the nation. The MAC isn't even a good mid major conference, more like a low major.
Notre Dame as been stated was over seeded, the Colonial is never a push over. Think VCU, George Mason (even William and Mary gave UNC fits) they've produced a lot of winners in the past so it may be a surprise but it's not a shock.
guinness77
03-19-2010, 09:29 AM
No way SJU hires MJ, my guess is they hire someone who is currently a head coach.
Billy fucking Donovan. Now, that would be a home run, no?
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 09:31 AM
Billy fucking Donovan. Now, that would be a home run, no?
I'd taken Donovan, Greenberg, McCaffery or Hewitt. Any of those 4 would be fine with me. I honest don't think there is any chance Donovan would wanna come here, but he'd be my first choice.
guinness77
03-19-2010, 09:34 AM
I'd taken Donovan, Greenberg, McCaffery or Hewitt. Any of those 4 would be fine with me. I honest don't think there is any chance Donovan would wanna come here, but he'd be my first choice.
Your list of four is the same as mine, and in that order. I keep seeing Pecora's name getting thrown around and that would anger the living shit out of me.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 09:39 AM
Your list of four is the same as mine, and in that order. I keep seeing Pecora's name getting thrown around and that would anger the living shit out of me.
At least Norm is gone, and I can not be happier right now.
guinness77
03-19-2010, 09:44 AM
At least Norm is gone, and I can not be happier right now.
I feel a little guilty reveling in the fact that someone got fired, but I couldn't be more ecstatic right now. I feel like I got my team back.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 09:46 AM
I feel a little guilty reveling in the fact that someone got fired, but I couldn't be more ecstatic right now. I feel like I got my team back.
No need to feel guilty, he was obviously over his head and make a lot of money in his 6 yrs, he's not going to broke.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 09:55 AM
One name I keep seeing is Jeff Capel, the coach of Oklahoma. I wouldnt mind him either, he's been able to get 2 AA's in his first 4 seasons.
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 10:15 AM
One name I keep seeing is Jeff Capel, the coach of Oklahoma. I wouldnt mind him either, he's been able to get 2 AA's in his first 4 seasons.
No way St John's has the nuts to go out and get him...
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 10:31 AM
No way St John's has the nuts to go out and get him...
Well, one quote I saw today is that SJU is going to make their new coach among the top 25 in salary in the country. Which make us able to go after a lot of good coaches.
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nyjunc
03-19-2010, 10:33 AM
No way St John's has the nuts to go out and get him...
Why would he leave OU for SJU? It doesn't make sense.
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 10:34 AM
Well, one quote I saw today is that SJU is going to make their new coach among the top 25 in salary in the country. Which make us able to go after a lot of good coaches.
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If they do that I'd say they can get some good candidates, honestly they should look at Mooney from Richmond or Jacobsen from NIU. Can't say there are too many guys who can outcoach Lon Kruger but Jacobsen did yesterday.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 11:10 AM
I don't see why Capel or Donovan would leave their current situations for St. John's.
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 11:17 AM
Morgan St and WVU... I'm expecting the Bears to give them a run.
Interesting situation with Todd Bozeman, the guy was essentially banned from CBB because of the Jelani Gardner thing but Morgan St who was a non existent program before he got there has now made 2 consectutive NCAA's and have won 49 games the last 3 years. I wonder if any schools would take a gamble. You have to think if people will rehire scumbags like Cal and Sampson surely somebody would take on on Bozeman.
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 11:20 AM
Oh god not Gus Johnson...... if there is an upset in Buffalo turn down the sound. He's gonna sound like he's getting raped.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 11:22 AM
Oh god not Gus Johnson...... if there is an upset in Buffalo turn down the sound. He's gonna sound like he's getting raped.
I love Gus! WVU is down 10-0, today starts just like yesterday ends. wow.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 11:26 AM
I don't see why Capel or Donovan would leave their current situations for St. John's.
Money Speaks (That comment is more toward Capel)
ace_o_spades
03-19-2010, 11:26 AM
Oh god not Gus Johnson...... if there is an upset in Buffalo turn down the sound. He's gonna sound like he's getting raped.
but look out, he's got 'gettin away from the cops' speed
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 11:31 AM
Seems like CBS is having issues with their online feed
Italian Seafood
03-19-2010, 11:33 AM
Oh god not Gus Johnson...... if there is an upset in Buffalo turn down the sound. He's gonna sound like he's getting raped.
Mr. Excitement, even when there isn't any. I drive on Friday nights and usually have the Knicks on the radio, he makes the routine lifeless blowout sound like an amazing playoff game, at least when the station is coming in. Wonder who I get tonight?
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 11:41 AM
Does it come to as a surprise to anybody that the knobslobber Jim Nantz is doing the Duke game?
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 11:42 AM
Does it come to as a surprise to anybody that the knobslobber Jim Nantz is doing the Duke game?
At least ESPN didnt lend Dick Vitale to CBS.
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 11:46 AM
At least ESPN didnt lend Dick Vitale to CBS.
Jim Nantz and Duke Vitale on the same game!!! There'd be so much dick sucking going on you'd think you were on the set of a gay porn flick.
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 11:56 AM
Man my online feed keeps fucking up...I have no issue seeing the stupid "It's a video conference Bob" commercial though everytime I switch.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 12:01 PM
Money Speaks (That comment is more toward Capel)
We're talking a significant upgrade from their current contracts if you want them to leave better situations.
St. John's of course has to pay out the rest of Norm's contract. How much money are they going to be willing to pay? Donovan, for example, became the highest paid coach in college basketball when he signed his current contract in 2007.
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^ vbookie for tonight's games
kbgreen
03-19-2010, 12:02 PM
Jim Nantz and Duke Vitale on the same game!!! There'd be so much dick sucking going on you'd think you were on the set of a gay porn flick.
You just made me think of an old Eddie Murphy stand up. The one where he said the Ed Norton and Jackie Gleeson would make funny gays. I think Vital and Nance would be even funnier! "I'ts a PTPer, Drive it home Nace!""oh Baby!"
Yisman
03-19-2010, 12:18 PM
Cornell up 10 on Temple.
edit: now halftime, they lead 37-29
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 12:26 PM
I picked Temple across the board (as much as I liked Cornell) and am gonna get killed by this one. Cornell has only hit two 3's. Temple is in big big big trouble.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 12:39 PM
We're talking a significant upgrade from their current contracts if you want them to leave better situations.
St. John's of course has to pay out the rest of Norm's contract. How much money are they going to be willing to pay? Donovan, for example, became the highest paid coach in college basketball when he signed his current contract in 2007.
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^ vbookie for tonight's games
It's a buyout. It's not for as much as you'd think either, I've heard somewhere in between 150-850 K
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 12:40 PM
The AD has many comments today that make me thing they will be willing to spend significantly more money in the future then they have in the past.
Italian Seafood
03-19-2010, 12:42 PM
I'm trying to care. I'm all hockey now, and I think Manny hit his first spring HR but I have to read the link further.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 01:02 PM
Looks like Cornell and WVU will advance rather easily.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 01:28 PM
Jordan Crawford with 28 as Xavier advances.
Purdue/Siena tipping now
The Uniform Bomber
03-19-2010, 01:43 PM
Dear Tubby Smith:
Remember when you coached a couple of good seasons at Kentucky? Fuck you.
Sincerely,
The Uniform Bomber
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 01:48 PM
Dear Tubby Smith:
Remember when you coached a couple of good seasons at Kentucky? Fuck you.
Sincerely,
The Uniform Bomber
lol youre the funny, the guy has never coached a team with less than 20 wins and with Kentucky the team NEVER lost in the first round of the tourney. He took a UMinn team over that had 8 wins the yr before he got there and they've gone 56-29 since.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 01:56 PM
12-4 run for Siena to take the lead over Purdue.
The Uniform Bomber
03-19-2010, 02:03 PM
lol youre the funny, the guy has never coached a team with less than 20 wins and with Kentucky the team NEVER lost in the first round of the tourney. He took a UMinn team over that had 8 wins the yr before he got there and they've gone 56-29 since.
I know he's a quality coach, and seemingly possesses some dignity (which appears to be a rare trait these days); but I can't remember the last time he coached a significant, impactful win.
In reality, I'm just venting my frustration at every eliminated coach/team that I picked to win. This year's First Round has been the worst showing of my Brackets career.
17a_tailgater
03-19-2010, 02:08 PM
i have cornell advancing to the sweet sixteen and losing to kentucky
cornell just had 3 suicides in the past month on campus.
there is a story line there....
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 02:15 PM
i have cornell advancing to the sweet sixteen and losing to kentucky
cornell just had 3 suicides in the past month on campus.
there is a story line there....
they have 3 suicides every month.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 02:17 PM
I know he's a quality coach, and seemingly possesses some dignity (which appears to be a rare trait these days); but I can't remember the last time he coached a significant, impactful win.
In reality, I'm just venting my frustration at every eliminated coach/team that I picked to win. This year's First Round has been the worst showing of my Brackets career.
I know bro, I have 10 right picks so far. This is BY FAR my worst first round showing ever. Usually, I have an amazing first round ,27-30, right and then I just bomb after that, I'm hoping for a reversal this year.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 02:18 PM
Pitt had 3 points in 5 minutes.
Clemson up 9
Siena up 3
Wisconsin shutting down Wofford so far.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Pitt had 3 points in 5 minutes.
Clemson up 9
Siena up 3
I usually pick Clemson every year, and they ALWAYS lose in the first round, the year I thought I learn my lesson and didn't pick them they'll win.
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 02:21 PM
I know he's a quality coach, and seemingly possesses some dignity (which appears to be a rare trait these days); but I can't remember the last time he coached a significant, impactful win.
In reality, I'm just venting my frustration at every eliminated coach/team that I picked to win. This year's First Round has been the worst showing of my Brackets career.
Tell that to Auburn because he is leaving the Golden Gophers for the Tigers.... you heard it here 1st.
kbgreen
03-19-2010, 02:25 PM
i have cornell advancing to the sweet sixteen and losing to kentucky
cornell just had 3 suicides in the past month on campus.
there is a story line there....
I bet it was the gorge bridge! That is a scary gorge and for some reason Cornell kids keep jumping from it.
The Uniform Bomber
03-19-2010, 02:26 PM
I know bro, I have 10 right picks so far. This is BY FAR my worst first round showing ever. Usually, I have an amazing first round ,27-30, right and then I just bomb after that, I'm hoping for a reversal this year.
Ya, I also have 10 correct, and I'm usually $$$ in the First Round. In fact, every year's pool I'm almost always good (top 3) until about the Elite 8/Final Four, and then I crash&burn. So, I too, am hoping it'll be vice-versa this year,
I usually pick Clemson every year, and they ALWAYS lose in the first round, the year I thought I learn my lesson and didn't pick them they'll win.
Exactly. I actually still went with Clemson this year -- mainly because I didn't see as many ACC games as I usually see, and out of the several I saw, I watched Clemson, and I thought their pressure+endurance could advance them past the First Round. We'll see.
Barry the Baptist
03-19-2010, 02:28 PM
I bet it was the gorge bridge! That is a scary gorge and for some reason Cornell kids keep jumping from it.
Maybe there is just no vag up there... all the good looking smart chicks go to Brown from what I hear.
The Uniform Bomber
03-19-2010, 02:37 PM
Maybe there is just no vag up there... all the good looking smart chicks go to Brown from what I hear.
Haha. Pics or it ain't true!
Yisman
03-19-2010, 02:42 PM
Kramer with an open court strip and a dunk on a break the other way.
He's just making plays and Purdue is up 10.
:lol: he just stuffed Downey and then threw the ball off of him.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 02:48 PM
Tell that to Auburn because he is leaving the Golden Gophers for the Tigers.... you heard it here 1st.
nah, they had it on the broadcast during the Minnesota game.
CBS broke the story on their website (To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.).
Yisman
03-19-2010, 02:54 PM
gotta love Tubby. He doesn't even wait for the season to end before exploring new job opportunities.
He's been in talks with Auburn and Oregon the past few days, before the report this morning from Dodd that he's close to taking Auburn's offer.
The Uniform Bomber
03-19-2010, 03:18 PM
gotta love Tubby. He doesn't even wait for the season to end before exploring new job opportunities.
He's been in talks with Auburn and Oregon the past few days, before the report this morning from Dodd that he's close to taking Auburn's offer.
How long has he been/was at Minnesota for? 3 years?
Yisman
03-19-2010, 03:26 PM
yeah, '07-08, 08-09, and this season, where he had one foot out the door instead of preparing his team for the NCAA tournament.
He represents the worst trait of college coaches. No commitment, just there to get paid, looking for a better job and ways to screw you while taking your paychecks.
I wouldn't pay big money to the likes of him, as Auburn is prepared to do.
Fun fact:
In 2008, Smith had the highest salary of any state employee in Minnesota.
While I was typing this, Siena cut the margin to 3 with a minute left.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 03:35 PM
Purdue wins!
Yisman
03-19-2010, 03:40 PM
Missouri rolling now. Up 10.
Wisconsin's lead disappeared and they're now tied with Wofford!
Pittsburgh is going to win in a rout.
The Uniform Bomber
03-19-2010, 03:48 PM
yeah, '07-08, 08-09, and this season, where he had one foot out the door instead of preparing his team for the NCAA tournament.
He represents the worst trait of college coaches. No commitment, just there to get paid, looking for a better job and ways to screw you while taking your paychecks.
I wouldn't pay big money to the likes of him, as Auburn is prepared to do.
Fun fact:
In 2008, Smith had the highest salary of any state employee in Minnesota.
While I was typing this, Siena cut the margin to 3 with a minute left.
I always thought he came off as being an honorable coach (bouncing from schools aside). I never got the feeling he was very "dirty" and thought he was both intense and respectful to the game itself. However, those were my baseless perceptions of him; I very well may be dead-wrong and he may very well be the antithesis of what I've thought.
I don't remember how it went down.. did he leave Kentucky on his own, or was he run out of there? I thought I remember hearing (at the time he took the HC position) that it was his dream-job?
Yisman
03-19-2010, 03:58 PM
I always thought he came off as being an honorable coach (bouncing from schools aside). I never got the feeling he was very "dirty" and thought he was both intense and respectful to the game itself. However, those were my baseless perceptions of him; I very well may be dead-wrong and he may very well be the antithesis of what I've thought.
I don't remember how it went down.. did he leave Kentucky on his own, or was he run out of there? I thought I remember hearing (at the time he took the HC position) that it was his dream-job?
He resigned, but he was under some pressure because the team had not been performing up to expectations.
So in less than three years, he's now quit two programs.
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Smith, who had four years remaining on his contract at Kentucky, will be introduced at a 1 p.m. ET news conference Friday in Minneapolis. Kentucky will still honor the $1.5 million incentive bonus that Smith is due on April 3.
Minnesota athletic director Joel Maturi said Smith agreed to a seven-year deal to coach the Golden Gophers worth $1.8 million a year.
"You always want to be wanted," Smith told the Lexington (Ky.) Herald-Leader in a story posted on its Web site Thursday night. "You know they have a need."
Smith, speaking by phone on "Mike and Mike in the Morning" on ESPN2 on Friday, said a new challenge was the main reason for the move.
"We all need to be challenged," Smith said. "In the Big Ten, it's as tough as there is for a conference in the country. This will give me a new life, a new start and I'm anxious, eager and excited about it."
Smith informed Kentucky players and athletics director Mitch Barnhart about his decision earlier Thursday and also phoned former Minnesota coach Dan Monson, who was fired in November, to tell him he was accepting the job.
"On behalf of the University of Kentucky, I'd like to express sincere appreciation to Tubby Smith, his family and his staff," Barnhart said in a statement. "Tubby has always put a priority on the growth of the student-athlete while representing the Commonwealth with class, and we thank him for that. We wish him the very best at the University of Minnesota. They are getting a solid coach and a great person."
According to sources, Smith called Monson for an education about the opening, Minnesota's basketball facilities, the atmosphere around the program, and how the job compares to others in the Big Ten. The program was on probation for five of Monson's seven seasons after an academic scandal under former coach Clem Haskins.
Murrell2878
03-19-2010, 04:05 PM
Great finish for Missouri. Wisconsin / Wofford going down to the wire, but if Wisc. hits their free throws they will ice it now.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 04:22 PM
I have a friend who was in OKC and I woulnd't have believed it but BYU fans were actually rooting for UNLV and our fans were rooting for them. I hate both BYU and SDSU and I know I was yelling my ass off for both of them. Can't beleive I'm even gonna suggest it but I will absolutely be pulling for BYU and New Mexico tomorrow.
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Although New Mexico State is in the Midwest Region as a No. 12 seed, the Southern Aggies will play Michigan State and Tom Izzo in Spokane, the same pod Utah State will play in. It remains unclear whether or not the two fan bases will unite and root for one another. After all, they are bitter rivals. If they do, however, show some WAC unity, it could create a nice little geographical advantage for both schools.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 04:57 PM
Seton Hall officials have confirmed that they will talk to McCaffrey.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 05:47 PM
Rumor is SJU has agreed to a deal with Seth Greenberg and are just waiting for him to lose in the NIT.
Penning10toColes
03-19-2010, 05:48 PM
Rumor is SJU has agreed to a deal with Seth Greenberg and are just waiting for him to lose in the NIT.
I have to say, I really think that's a lousy hire for you guys, which is disappointing, it's always fun when St. John's is doing well. You could do a lot worse though.
Jetfanmack
03-19-2010, 05:51 PM
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Gus Johnson soundboard. Makes the games that much better.
MParty7441
03-19-2010, 05:51 PM
I have to say, I really think that's a lousy hire for you guys, which is disappointing, it's always fun when St. John's is doing well. You could do a lot worse though.
I like it, ANYONE is better than Norm,we make the NCAA next year and then we have 9 schollies open for the next year and lets hope Greenburg can get some studs here which is possible as he's done pretty well at VA Tech.
Yisman
03-19-2010, 05:52 PM
Utah State loses. That hurts my bracket because it was an upset pick (to the Sweet 16) that not that many other people were picking. Ugh.
Jetfanmack
03-19-2010, 05:56 PM
Utah State loses. That hurts my bracket because it was an upset pick (to the Sweet 16) that not that many other people were picking. Ugh.
I had that in a few of mine, too, not very happy about that one.
Cakes
03-19-2010, 06:03 PM
I'm out already, had Georgetown winning it all. That was the fastest bracket ever, filled it out at 10:30 am, by the time I turned the TV on at night I was out. Kramer lasted longer in the jerking off contest.
I didn't last long this year, either.
Sweet 16 picks done already:
Georgetown
Texas-El Paso
Siena
Marquette
Temple
Thank goodness I did not participate in a money pool this year.
I've only done that three times.
In 2008, I finished in 2nd place. I would have won if Memphis didn't blow the title game.
In 2009, I finished in the bottom half of the pool.
The other time I played for money was 2001, I guess it was. I had Iowa State winning it all. They lost early on the first day. I was done real quick that year.
Penning10toColes
03-19-2010, 06:04 PM
I had that in a few of mine, too, not very happy about that one.
Me too...Flirted with putting them in the Sweet 16 but decided against it, fortunately.
Cakes
03-19-2010, 06:43 PM
Well, this is gonna fuck me for sure. Arkansas-Pine Bluff is down 5-15 to Duke. I had the Bluff Pigs (or whatever they're called) in my Final Four.
Jetfanmack
03-19-2010, 07:07 PM
Well, this is gonna fuck me for sure. Arkansas-Pine Bluff is down 5-15 to Duke. I had the Bluff Pigs (or whatever they're called) in my Final Four.
So much for Florida State over UTEP in the Sweet 16...
Cakes
03-19-2010, 07:18 PM
Every game is played in the same arena or at least it looks that way. How utterly antiseptic the tournament has become with the same lame paint scheme and look for EVERY game.
I remember seeing Indiana play LSU at Boise State one year. There was no generic black and blue paint scheme on the court. Instead, we saw the Boise State Broncos logo!
One of the first ever tourney games I watched (and to this day it's one of my favorites) was the UMass-Syracuse game in 1992. It was played in Worcester. The game did not appear, at first glance, to be occurring on the same court as other games that were being played simultaneously.
It's like right now CBS is giving me Oklahoma State vs Georgia Tech. When CBS switches to the APB-Duke game, I might first think, Whoa same court as the other game. Maybe I did put that LSD blotter on my tongue being leaving work today.
The tournament has less personality these days.
EcKo151
03-19-2010, 07:57 PM
What an un-eventful day
Jetfanmack
03-19-2010, 08:08 PM
These games don't mean a whole lot for me, but Ga. Tech-OK St. is a good game, and Florida State isn't going away quietly. Also, New Mexico State only down 2 to Michigan State.
The Uniform Bomber
03-19-2010, 08:36 PM
Ok. St. goes down as Anderson loses the ball in traffic.
Jesus Christ.. I don't know if I've ever seen more poorly executed plays down the stretch in ALL of any Tourney than I've seen in the first two days of this year's Tourney.
Another one bites the dust for me.
TheManiac
03-19-2010, 10:20 PM
Jesus Christ.. I don't know if I've ever seen more poorly executed plays down the stretch in ALL of any Tourney than I've seen in the first two days of this year's Tourney.
Some shitty officiating down the stretch as well.
Did you see that Villanova game? The refs did EVERYTHING they could to hand that game to Nova specifically Scotty Reynolds. Before Novas final possesion, the five before Robert Morris got fouls called on them. It was fucking ridiculous.
As far as St. John's goes, its about fucking time. Being from NY and having gone to St. John's for a few semesters (before I realized it was no longer a school just a financial institution) I am sick of watching them get blown out continuously in the Garden and playing the 1 on 5 offense. Get some players who are willing to pass, some players who understand the fan base is huge and ready to get behind them once they give them something. You saw flashes of it this year. This is New York Fuckin City, all we do is play basketball. It's fucking AMAZING how schools like Pitt and Cincy - among other schools around the country - come in and RAPE US for the best players in our backyard. It's disgusting.
I don't know who has been a bigger disgrace for the last decade, the Red Strom or the Knicks. It really is a tossup.
Poeman
03-20-2010, 01:50 AM
I like it, ANYONE is better than Norm,we make the NCAA next year and then we have 9 schollies open for the next year and lets hope Greenburg can get some studs here which is possible as he's done pretty well at VA Tech.
Monasch (athletic director of SJU) has said this
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Monasch said he would not use a search firm or committee to select the new coach.
"We want to hire someone who has a record of success of getting into the NCAA tournament," Monasch said. "In trying to find the right person, probably the safest choice is someone who has done it at this level, someone who believes in the mission of school and understands New York."
Monasch said the school is ready to offer a salary that could place the new coach among the highest paid in the country.
"Depending on who the coach is we will make the financial commitment and a length of time that is appropriate," he said.
I want a big name here...St Johns needs a name that can recruit guys with sound team ability.
On top of that the team has to get a point guard to lead this team.
Mr Electric
03-20-2010, 02:06 AM
Sweet 16 picks done already:
Georgetown
Texas-El Paso
Siena
Marquette
Temple
I had UTEP, Marquette, Georgetown, and Sienna going to the Sweet Sixteen as well. I picked against Temple though.
I'm in a pool with some asshole that's bracket is at 98% right now - he picked Murray State and Ohio to win.
kbgreen
03-20-2010, 10:00 AM
I have to say, I really think that's a lousy hire for you guys, which is disappointing, it's always fun when St. John's is doing well. You could do a lot worse though.
I don't think he would be a bad hire for them. He is a decent coach who has had some success in the ACC building from almost nothing. That would be simular to what he faces here.
Italian Seafood
03-20-2010, 10:00 AM
I didn't last long this year, either.
Sweet 16 picks done already:
Georgetown
Texas-El Paso
Siena
Marquette
Temple
Thank goodness I did not participate in a money pool this year.
I've only done that three times.
In 2008, I finished in 2nd place. I would have won if Memphis didn't blow the title game.
In 2009, I finished in the bottom half of the pool.
The other time I played for money was 2001, I guess it was. I had Iowa State winning it all. They lost early on the first day. I was done real quick that year.
Mine wasn't for money, either, I know better. I did go 23-9 in the first round, had ODU and Cornell among my winners. That and my EZ Pass will get me through the tunnel.
kinghenry89
03-20-2010, 12:44 PM
Did Jay Wright run over the refs dog or something? Villanova can't buy a call in the early going here. Of course it doesn't help the Wildcats that St. Mary's is shooting the lights out and Scotty Reynolds still can't buy a bucket.
Cakes
03-20-2010, 12:47 PM
Did Jay Wright run over the refs dog or something? Villanova can't buy a call in the early going here. Of course it doesn't help the Wildcats that St. Mary's is shooting the lights out and Scotty Reynolds still can't buy a bucket.
Maybe the refs are making up for the previous game when weird calls were made in Villa's favor. I didn't see the other game, but I heard it was poorly officiated.
Is this the same ref crew?
kinghenry89
03-20-2010, 01:12 PM
Maybe the refs are making up for the previous game when weird calls were made in Villa's favor. I didn't see the other game, but I heard it was poorly officiated.
Is this the same ref crew?
No idea whether it's the same crew or not. Nova did get some very favorable calls in their opening round game though, it's very possible that the refs are trying to make it up.
Whether consciously or subconsciously, they are definitely making some strange calls that are keeping Omar Samhan out of foul trouble.
kinghenry89
03-20-2010, 01:58 PM
The refs are still giving St. Mary's a huge leg up. They just missed a clear travel on Samhan and granted the Gaels a time out when they clearly didn't have possession of the ball.
The score is close, but I think that Nova is in big trouble here. They can't seem to defend the big man without leaving a sharpshooter open on the wing, which could spell huge trouble in the final minutes.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 02:07 PM
Nova is about to go down. If they some how pull this game out, Baylor will cruise over them with 3 players who are 6'11 plus.
kinghenry89
03-20-2010, 02:10 PM
Nova is about to go down. If they some how pull this game out, Baylor will cruise over them with 3 players who are 6'11 plus.
I feel kinda bad for Nova because the refs have not called a damn thing on St. Mary's, especially Samhan.
But you've gotta like seeing an underdog move on. Tough year for the Big East.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 02:18 PM
I feel kinda bad for Nova because the refs have not called a damn thing on St. Mary's, especially Samhan.
But you've gotta like seeing an underdog move on. Tough year for the Big East.
If Baylor can beat ODU I'm interested to see how Sanham does with players his size.
TheManiac
03-20-2010, 02:23 PM
I feel kinda bad for Nova because the refs have not called a damn thing on St. Mary's, especially Samhan.
But you've gotta like seeing an underdog move on. Tough year for the Big East.
I don't feel bad because they were outplayed and outhustled in 2 games in a row now. They should have lost the game against Robert Morris. Officiating didn't decide that game down the stretch in the way it killed Robert Morris. Nova just got outplayed.
The Big East will have the last laugh, via Syracuse.
GQMartin
03-20-2010, 04:14 PM
Nova just was a pretender. The way they played down the stretch and the fact that everyone knew they didn't deserve a 2 seed, were a prelude to their early exodus.
GQMartin
03-20-2010, 04:14 PM
I hope Murray st defeats Butler.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 04:28 PM
I hope Murray st defeats Butler.
I dont. I have Butler beating Cuse the next round.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 04:30 PM
Murray State down 2 in the final seconds couldnt even get a shot off, Butler moves on.
GQMartin
03-20-2010, 04:48 PM
Kansas down early.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 04:49 PM
Another rumor-a former player for Rick Pitino is saying Pitino to SJU is almost a done deal, I don't buy it.
TheManiac
03-20-2010, 05:38 PM
Another rumor-a former player for Rick Pitino is saying Pitino to SJU is almost a done deal, I don't buy it.
Neither do I.
That would be huge though.
kinghenry89
03-20-2010, 05:51 PM
Another rumor-a former player for Rick Pitino is saying Pitino to SJU is almost a done deal, I don't buy it.
You would think that, as an institution, St. Johns might have a problem with Pitino's whole adultery/abortion controversy from the offseason.
If the Johnnies make a big name hire I think that Billy Donovan would be more likely. But I think that they're most likely to end up with a Seth Greenberg/Tom Pecora/other second tier guy.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 06:11 PM
Kansas is really struggling, down 10 with 11 minutes left.
Yisman
03-20-2010, 06:31 PM
Kansas just narrowed the gap, but Moran answered with a three to put the margin back at 6. must watch game
Northern Iowa really got screwed because they had a better season than ND, yet got stuck in a very difficult spot.
Yisman
03-20-2010, 06:39 PM
an 11 seed blowing out a 3 is also pretty rare. New Mexico goes home.
Exit 117
03-20-2010, 06:41 PM
My bracket was looking great until today. Fuck this shit.
Yisman
03-20-2010, 06:44 PM
kansas down 1 with 44 to play
Cakes
03-20-2010, 06:44 PM
I'll move up the standings in my group if Kansas loses. Of the 30 something people, I was one of the only ones without Kansas in the Final Four.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 06:45 PM
This Kansas/UNI game reminds me so much of that Ohio State/Xavier game a couple yrs back. OSU was down big with like a minute to go and won in OT.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 06:47 PM
This Kansas/UNI game reminds me so much of that Ohio State/Xavier game a couple yrs back. OSU was down big with like a minute to go and won in OT.
as I say this, UK is about to lose.
Yisman
03-20-2010, 06:47 PM
Northern Iowa completely screwed up their last two possessions, but Farokhmanesh wins it with a deep 3.
He just did it again. Another huge three, and that about seals it.
as I say this, UK is about to lose.
UK is Kentucky. :wink:
I'm going to lose my bracket champ in the second round, as will a lot of other people. Can't say I'm that surprised. UNI is a great team and I regretted not picking them to go deep in any of my brackets. They're as good as any of the teams in that bracket, aside from Kansas. Of course, now, they can claim to be as good as Kansas.
Kansas, the overall #1, certainly did not get any favors from the committee, which gave Duke a much easier road.
Antoni
03-20-2010, 06:48 PM
KU going down to N Iowa.
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MParty7441
03-20-2010, 06:49 PM
He just did it again. Another huge three, and that about seals it.
UK is Kentucky. :wink:
oh please, im just stuck in the moment as my bracket goes down the drain.
Exit 117
03-20-2010, 06:49 PM
Can't believe he shot that 3. And sunk it.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 06:52 PM
So, any shot Bill Self is fired now and SJU can pick him up? (joke)
Yisman
03-20-2010, 06:53 PM
that would've really let Kansas back in had he missed, assuming they got the rebound. He would've gotten quite an earful from his coach too.
Baylor wins.
As mentioned, Washington beats New Mexico in a rout.
CatoTheElder
03-20-2010, 06:54 PM
Farokhmanesh!
GQMartin
03-20-2010, 06:57 PM
Bye bye Kansas!!!!!
ace_o_spades
03-20-2010, 06:57 PM
wow there goes my bracket
Cakes
03-20-2010, 06:58 PM
Turns out there are 56 folks in my Yahoo group as opposed to 30 something.
I'm somewhere in the top 10 in the possible points department. The people who picked KU to go real far are royally screwed.
TheManiac
03-20-2010, 07:01 PM
Now that was a good game. Bill Self just got outcoached.
It's a shame that Aldrich rolled his ankle, he made two very nice post moves that resulted in points two possesions in a row and they were finally feeding him the ball.
kbgreen
03-20-2010, 07:16 PM
Wow, the first top tier team to fall! I am shocked that Kansas (who has been the best team just about all year) just got beat.
Yisman
03-20-2010, 07:20 PM
well, my bracket is already done, but I'm picking BYU for the upset. Go Cougars!
Yisman
03-20-2010, 07:24 PM
Popular sentiment is now going to be that Kentucky is going to win because their main competition is out of the way, but I really think Kentucky gets knocked off in the next few games and doesn't do it.
I also think BYU has a good shot to win their region if they can beat Kansas State. Game just tipped.
Yisman
03-20-2010, 08:17 PM
refs being really tight on BYU now
they just gave what I thought was an extra FT to Pullen, too
He was beyond the three line, but it looked like he was passing.
BYU outdoing them in other aspects, but getting killed from the line
they led 10-0 and are now down 38-29
Murrell2878
03-20-2010, 08:49 PM
I was in the top 99.9% in ESPN after round 1. Now I'm not even close!
Yisman
03-20-2010, 08:59 PM
can any of the mods post games for tomorrow in vbookie?
Jetfanmack
03-20-2010, 09:04 PM
Nova played like crap down the stretch, and there were dome internal problems. That said, Samhan got away with murder that entire game. The Robert Morris calls down the stretch on Scottie were fortunate, but none were really bad calls. Fortunate they went our way? Absolutely. But we deserved that after some of the screwjobs we got by refs during the season.
That said, that's not why Nova lost. Nova lost because Fisher and Reynolds couldn't shoot worth a damn and because when Reynolds can't shoot straight, he doesn't help out much because that's mainly what he does.
EcKo151
03-20-2010, 09:06 PM
The real Wildcats are playing
Penning10toColes
03-20-2010, 09:13 PM
That was awesome.
Yisman
03-20-2010, 09:17 PM
BYU got down to one timeout with like 11 minutes still left.
Judge just had a huge slam for K State and then (accidentally) kicked the ball almost to halfcourt. The refs allowed the clock to keep ticking. If they're not going to call anything, wouldn't it be easy to run time off the clock like that?
Yisman
03-20-2010, 09:26 PM
this is almost a road game for BYU. Since the game is in Oklahoma City, K State supporters outnumbers BYU supports at least 4:1. If BYU can come back, though, they'll play in Salt Lake City.
In the other late game, Kentucky blew out Wake Forest. It was never close after the first few minutes.
Yisman
03-20-2010, 09:44 PM
BYU loses. They just were never able to get completely back into the game after Kansas State's run at the end of the second.
If Kansas losing didn't eliminate me from having a chance at placing high in any group I'm in, this did.
Cakes
03-20-2010, 10:16 PM
I'm now in 9th place in the possible points category in my Yahoo group.
Kansas losing and Kansas State winning was very good for me.
MParty7441
03-20-2010, 10:34 PM
The only shot I still have is if OSU loses tomorrow or when they play against Tennessee.
TheManiac
03-20-2010, 11:46 PM
The Robert Morris calls down the stretch on Scottie were fortunate, but none were really bad calls. Fortunate they went our way? Absolutely. But we deserved that after some of the screwjobs we got by refs during the season.
They are bad calls when the same type contact is happening on the other side of the floor and all of the sudden they are non-calls that result in turnovers and missed shots.
Poeman
03-21-2010, 12:21 AM
Ali Farokhmanesh may be the coolest college basketball player name I've ever heard.
That dude has ICE IN HIS VEINS...Although he looks like an accountant at H & R Block
nyjunc
03-21-2010, 07:00 AM
What a crazy Tourney is't been so far(at least in the Thurs/Sat portion). I never felt 'Nova was going to make a run in this Tourney, talent wise it's there but I have seen teams like that too many times before. If Wright stays they'll be fine long term but if he leaves they are in trouble for a few years.
I am happy KU lost, now I just ned UK and duke to go down and i'll be really happy. UK took off after getting Wake into some early foul trouble, I still think their inexperience will haunt them soon but in this wide open tourney they are the most talented team so who knows?
I know that no one watched it but that Carolina -Miss State NIT game was a GREAT game. MSU was hot early but Carolina weathered the storm and led at the half, MSU came back to take an 8-9 pt lead in the 2nd half and the Heels battled back before Larry Drew hit a shot over MSU's great shot blocker Jarvis Varnado w/ 2 secs left and the heels advance to face UAB in Birmingham Tuesday Night. The atmosphere was great w/ a sellout crowd in Starkville and I expect the same in Birmingham. That is a site of the one of my favorite heels wins of all time- the 1995 Elite 8 against UK. UK was favored in that game and it was like a home game down in SEC Country but Wallace and Stackhouse led the heels back to the Final Four.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 11:09 AM
West Coast team playing at 9:10 AM alert
Gonzaga-Syracuse tipping now.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 11:32 AM
11 minutes in, Jackson has three fouls
22-21 syracuse
This leaves Syracuse very thin inside.
kinghenry89
03-21-2010, 11:33 AM
Rick Jackson just picked up his 3rd foul with about 9 minutes to play in the first half. 'Cuse might be in trouble.
Cakes
03-21-2010, 11:51 AM
Ali Farokhmanesh may be the coolest college basketball player name I've ever heard.
That dude has ICE IN HIS VEINS...Although he looks like an accountant at H & R Block
My favorite name is still Exree Hipp. He played for Maryland in the early 90s.
Tony Dunkin had a good name, too. If his surname was spelled Duncan it would not have been as cool.
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I was in South Carolina during the week of the NBA Draft after his senior year. He was a front page story in the sports section that week. Alas, he did not get drafted. I think he was in some NBA training camps, maybe with the Hornets, but never played in a real NBA game.
He could shoot and was a good athlete and dunker. I'm not sure why he didn't make it.
nyjetsrule
03-21-2010, 12:10 PM
Cuse shooting the lights out from downtown through the first half.
They have to keep forcing the Zags to shoot from downtown, once they started doing that, the zags offense became non-existent
kinghenry89
03-21-2010, 12:25 PM
Cuse shooting the lights out from downtown through the first half.
They have to keep forcing the Zags to shoot from downtown, once they started doing that, the zags offense became non-existent
You've gotta give Syracuse a ton of credit. When Jackson went out they moved seamlessly into a catch and shoot offense that Gonzaga doesn't seem to have much of an answer for.
Rautins is heating up now. I strongly doubt that the Zags have what it takes to come back from 20 down.
GQMartin
03-21-2010, 01:14 PM
Gonzaga brought the JV team.
kbgreen
03-21-2010, 01:21 PM
SU advances! The zags just zipped!
Yisman
03-21-2010, 03:22 PM
Cornell and Michigan State to the Sweet 16
kinghenry89
03-21-2010, 03:25 PM
Don't look now, but the Ramblin' Wreck are back within 6. We might have a good finish here.
EDIT: Never mind. A flagrant foul by Tech pretty much ended the game.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 03:34 PM
Ohio State wins.
For some reason they scheduled four games in the same time slot (2:30-2:50).
Three are decided.
Only one still in doubt is the WVU game.
Three late games tipping starting in 20 minutes.
I guess there was some reason they didn't want to do night games today.
Ideally with the eight games for today, I think two at a time would've been best.
two at noon
two at 2:30
two at 5
two at 7:30 or 8
MParty7441
03-21-2010, 03:41 PM
Ohio State wins.
For some reason they scheduled four games in the same time slot (2:30-2:50).
Three are decided.
Only one still in doubt is the WVU game.
Three late games tipping starting in 20 minutes.
I guess there was some reason they didn't want to do night games today.
Ideally with the eight games for today, I think two at a time would've been best.
two at noon
two at 2:30
two at 5
two at 7:30 or 8
I think they usually try to avoid Sunday night games.
MParty7441
03-21-2010, 03:45 PM
Cornell and Michigan State to the Sweet 16
A little early? MD with a huge comeback now up by 1 with 35 seconds left.
MParty7441
03-21-2010, 03:47 PM
MSU advances on a last second shot!
What a great last 30 seconds, MSU makes a 2 to go up 1, then MD comes down and scores with 6 seconds left. Finally MSU nails a 3 with no time left to win by 2.
EcKo151
03-21-2010, 03:48 PM
Unbelievable finish...
Congrats MSUJet
Yisman
03-21-2010, 03:52 PM
Thoroughman missed both FTs but Butler with an offensive rebound and putback.
Huge. That's going to about seal this.
WVU/Washington to face off
Yisman
03-21-2010, 03:57 PM
yeah I should've been watching mich state/maryland instead of this
missed a great comeback and WVU pretty much was in control for the final three minutes
re: scheduling
it could be they have some kind of unspoken agreement with the NBA that the NBA won't put on a "Sunday Showcase" on ABC (one of those premier matchups usually involving some combo of Lakers, Celtics, Magic, Cavs), as long as the NCAA doesn't put up games to compete against the NBA's big Sunday night card.
The NBA basically pushed all the games except a few minor matchups no one cares about to 8 PM or later, when the NCAA games will all be over.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 04:20 PM
One prediction:
the winner of Purdue/Siena (I favor Purdue) will lose to Texas A&M or Utah State (I favor Utah State).
However, any of the matchups look good for Duke to advance to the Elite Eight.
and here we have it. I did pick A&M today to beat purdue. Not a big fan of either team, to tell you the truth.
Game was A&M favored by 1.5. A legit good team would be a 4+ favorite over Purdue.
I think Duke will beat Cal (although Cal could keep that one close) and then beat the winner of this game.
MSUJet85
03-21-2010, 04:32 PM
Unbelievable finish...
Congrats MSUJet
I think I lost my voice a little :up:
CatoTheElder
03-21-2010, 04:46 PM
31-18. Fuck.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 05:04 PM
Izzo said he thinks it's an Achilles injury,
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Two-time All-Big Ten player Kalin Lucas was in a walking boot and it was unsure if he can play for Michigan State against Northern Iowa in the regional semifinals of the NCAA tournament because of a lower leg injury.
"I don't know yet. I just know it's a leg injury,'' the Spartans floor leader said Sunday while seated his jubilant locker room minutes after Michigan State advanced with an 85-83 victory over Maryland in the second round - thanks to a shot at the buzzer by Korie Lucious, Lucas' replacement.
"I will get X-rays (Monday) and probably will know more then,'' Lucas said.
Two days after he scored a career-high 25 points in a win over New Mexico State, Lucas was injured last in the first half.
He began hopping on one leg and keeping his left foot off the ground after making a runner and landing awkwardly on his left leg near the baseline with 2:28 remaining in the first half. It was his only field goal in four shots. He had six assists and one turnover in 16 minutes.
"I just came down the wrong way,'' he said.
He said the pain was more in his leg than in his foot or ankle.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 05:08 PM
so many teams get the ball with 50 seconds to a minute left and don't try for the two for one.
What's even worse is when the announcers don't even notice.
This is fundamental basic stuff. If you can't get a good shot in the first 10 seconds, fine, but at least try.
Purdue just screwed it up.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 05:45 PM
Pitt just scored 12 straight to make it a one point game.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 06:14 PM
From Texas A&M-Purdue:
"One Big Ten team has punched its ticket..."
I guess they forgot about Ohio State also winning today.
Purdue just went on a run fueled by some steals.
Looks like Duke and Xavier will head to the Sweet 16.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 06:24 PM
Pitt had a three at the buzzer to try and tie but missed
Xavier's Dante Jackson, an 81.5% FT shooter, bricked both to set that up
Yisman
03-21-2010, 06:27 PM
Purdue got it with 20 seconds left, tied at 55, after they blocked an A&M shot. Purdue holding for the final shot, stripped, ball on the floor, an A&M player managed to get a timeout while having possession, I guess.
Now A&M will try to see if they can get a shot off.
1.1 seconds left. Overtime very likely.
Just a wild end to regulation.
The downside of the online streams is you don't get anything from the studio. Just dead air.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 06:31 PM
and the long three at the buzzer doesn't even catch iron.
First OT game of the day coming.
Amazingly enough, no player has even four fouls.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 06:43 PM
wow, dumbass move for Texas A&M
They shoot the ball with 20 seconds left, when they had 13 left on the shot clock, and then after Purdue crossed half court in a tie game with an apparent TO coming, an A&M player wrapped up the Purdue guard. Just put his arms around him. I guess he thought they were behind. Players really have to pay attention and know the score.
I think they may have called timeout first, though. 10 seconds left.
Yisman
03-21-2010, 06:43 PM
Purdue wins.
Kramer took it to the hoop.
MParty7441
03-21-2010, 08:01 PM
People had Purdue getting crushed by Siena. Good for them.
Italian Seafood
03-21-2010, 09:56 PM
I had Cornell in the Sweet 16, my dad went there. :up:
Cakes
03-21-2010, 10:01 PM
I had Cornell in the Sweet 16, my dad went there. :up:
I only have eight of the final 16 still alive in my picks.
I correctly had:
Ohio State
Syracuse, Xavier, Kansas State
Kentucky, West Virginia
Duke, Baylor
Three of my final four teams are still alive.
My national championship game pick could still happen, too.
And, the eight who screwed me: Kansas, Maryland, Georgetown, Texas-El Paso, Temple, Marquette, Siena, Villanova
Cakes
03-21-2010, 10:11 PM
Villanova is better than WVU...
Ahh, yes, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. So if you could just go ahead and reevaluate the situation that would be terrific, okay?
Cakes
03-21-2010, 10:21 PM
Hakeem Olajuwon's daughter is playing for Oklahoma right now on espn2.
Jetfanmack
03-21-2010, 10:36 PM
Ahh, yes, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. So if you could just go ahead and reevaluate the situation that would be terrific, okay?
Villanova in January was better than WVU. Villanova now is a mess without an identity.
Cakes
03-21-2010, 10:39 PM
Villanova in January was better than WVU. Villanova now is a mess without an identity.
January?
My initial post in this thread occurred in March. GQSanchez responded n March.
Jetfanmack
03-21-2010, 10:46 PM
Yeah, all I'm saying is Villanova was better early in the year and never really got much better, while WVU improved.
nyjunc
03-22-2010, 06:48 AM
Ohio State wins.
For some reason they scheduled four games in the same time slot (2:30-2:50).
Three are decided.
Only one still in doubt is the WVU game.
Three late games tipping starting in 20 minutes.
I guess there was some reason they didn't want to do night games today.
Ideally with the eight games for today, I think two at a time would've been best.
two at noon
two at 2:30
two at 5
two at 7:30 or 8
Ideally they want the games over by 7Pm for a lead in to 60 minutes, obviously the games go past 7PM but it's still the great leasd in for 60 mins whether it starts at 7:30 or 7:45.
Yeah, all I'm saying is Villanova was better early in the year and never really got much better, while WVU improved.
They went in opposite directions, for most of the year WVU was underachieving and not looking like a team that could make a deep run while for much of the year 'nova was but w/in the last month or so 'Nova was clearly headed in the wrong direction while WVU was headed up. I'm not sure WVU gets by UW the way they have been playing though.
GQMartin
03-22-2010, 08:25 AM
Ahh, yes, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. So if you could just go ahead and reevaluate the situation that would be terrific, okay?
Sort of, already did...
Nova just was a pretender. The way they played down the stretch and the fact that everyone knew they didn't deserve a 2 seed, were a prelude to their early exodus.
Villanova in January was better than WVU. Villanova now is a mess without an identity.
What he said....
GQMartin
03-22-2010, 08:27 AM
"Gonzaga has the best chance to upset today..."
Great analysis CBS
Yisman
03-22-2010, 11:16 AM
Ideally they want the games over by 7Pm for a lead in to 60 minutes, obviously the games go past 7PM but it's still the great leasd in for 60 mins whether it starts at 7:30 or 7:45.
Yeah, makes sense, but not the 7 PM part. The last game started after 5:20.
I guess they can't start earlier than noon, and the ensuing games depend on when the earlier games finish, so there really isn't anything they can do to have them finish by 7.
kbgreen
03-22-2010, 11:21 AM
Yeah, makes sense, but not the 7 PM part. The last game started after 5:20.
I guess they can't start earlier than noon, and the ensuing games depend on when the earlier games finish, so there really isn't anything they can do to have them finish by 7.
What was odd (but I was very happy about it) was that SU - Gonzaga was the only early game. Then the 2:30 games started they were all bunched up! My guess is they were holding the games until around noon on the west coast. The benefit is I got to watch the whole SU game!
kbgreen
03-22-2010, 11:26 AM
Yeah, all I'm saying is Villanova was better early in the year and never really got much better, while WVU improved.
Nova did have a back loaded big east schedule this year. They seemed to come apart in that brutal stretch in Feb.
The two teams that really have me confused this year were nova and texas they both have alot of talent, experienced players and good coaches who just fell apart late in the year.
nyjunc
03-22-2010, 11:27 AM
What was odd (but I was very happy about it) was that SU - Gonzaga was the only early game. Then the 2:30 games started they were all bunched up! My guess is they were holding the games until around noon on the west coast. The benefit is I got to watch the whole SU game!
They always do that on the sat/Sun games. They get one game to the Country then they regionalize them. I do think it was unfair that a WC team had to play at 9AM their time. You guys would have beat them anyway but that was poor scheduling.
kbgreen
03-22-2010, 11:34 AM
They always do that on the sat/Sun games. They get one game to the Country then they regionalize them. I do think it was unfair that a WC team had to play at 9AM their time. You guys would have beat them anyway but that was poor scheduling.
They were the lower seed and SU fans got screwed on Friday getting only about 10 minutes of the SU game Aired. They would not even let you watch the game online for some reason Friday!
Italian Seafood
03-22-2010, 12:04 PM
I only have eight of the final 16 still alive in my picks.
I correctly had:
Ohio State
Syracuse, Xavier, Kansas State
Kentucky, West Virginia
Duke, Baylor
Three of my final four teams are still alive.
My national championship game pick could still happen, too.
And, the eight who screwed me: Kansas, Maryland, Georgetown, Texas-El Paso, Temple, Marquette, Siena, Villanova
I have 9 of 16 alive and went 23-9 in the first round, but losing Georgetown as my winner in the first hour or so kind of puts a damper on it. Had Villanova going to the Final Four too, so....yeah.
Yisman
03-22-2010, 12:35 PM
from three days ago:
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After the way Villanova needed to come from behind to force overtime against 15-seed Robert Morris, and then barely escaped with a win, you can see why NBA teams are hot for Wildcat's coach Jay Wright.
But that's the rumor -- and if you want rumors you go to Peter Vecsey and the New York Post.
"Sources say the 76ers approached him a summer or two ago, but advances were rejected. Guaranteed, they will come calling again, as well as intensify their interest, in mid-April immediately after Eddie Jordan is fired, a conclusion no longer in doubt, I'm assured by a Philadelphian with a strong pulse on everything 76er-related...
In the meantime, Wright additionally can expect to be romanced by the Nets. If Rod Thorn remains team president, as it appears he will when incoming majority owner Mikhail Prokhorov finally gets approval from the NBA's Board of Governors, "look for Jay to be on the top of the list when he presents his suggestions."
Coaching in the NBA is a completely different animal than coaching in college, and most coaches don't make the adjustment. In college, it is all about the recruiting -- your ability to draw top talent matters more than anything. You can develop and mold that talent, but John Calipari is a success because he gets the talent to come to him.
But in the NBA coaches have far less control over who makes up the roster. Plus the Xs and Os -- the preparation -- is far more detailed. In college the coach is the king of the program, in the pros star players carry more power than any coach not named Phil Jackson (and if Jerry Buss had to choose between Bryant and Jackson, the coach would lose again). The egos are larger and harder to manage. Most college coaches fail to make the adjustment.
If you were the Sixers or Knicks, do you want to trust your massive rebuilding projects -- and in the case of the Nets opening in a new stadium -- to an unproven coach at the NBA level? It might work, so long as the Nets don't play Robert Morris.
Yisman
03-22-2010, 03:23 PM
UConn at VT tonight. I'd be interested to see how UConn plays after their lackluster performance in the first round. They've just had five days off, too.
xjets2002x
03-22-2010, 04:15 PM
I have 9 of 16 alive and went 23-9 in the first round, but losing Georgetown as my winner in the first hour or so kind of puts a damper on it. Had Villanova going to the Final Four too, so....yeah.
I've got 11 of 16 alive, but not feeling good about that number going forward. I picked Butler to beat Syracuse because I thought they'd exploit that 2-3 zone, but I didn't count on Wes Johnson reemerging and Butler shooting so poorly from deep.
On another note, I've learned that no matter what the schedule says and no matter how they look in the regular season, Michigan State usually ends up in the
Sweet 16, and it's a safe bet to put them there every year.
-X-
Yisman
03-22-2010, 07:35 PM
Rhode Island squeaked by Nevada.
UConn/VT has been a very tight game throughout.
UConn up 1 with 9 left
Yisman
03-22-2010, 08:05 PM
wow, what a missed call
uconn had it up 1
guard dribbling near halfcourt, lost the ball, got it back, and then got shoved over the line
they call over and back
a guy shoving you is a foul, no?
VT then gets the possession and hits a jumper to take the lead.
Yisman
03-22-2010, 08:08 PM
Hokies win by 2 and host Rhode Island next.
Blown call swung the game.
Funny end to the game. VT player fouled, sent to the line, .7 seconds left. He missed the first. He was instructed to miss the second, but made it. Ball didn't even touch the rim. Misses when he wants to hit, and hits when he wants to miss.
Barry the Baptist
03-23-2010, 07:28 AM
Dam... in my work pool I only have 8 Sweet 16 teams but all my Final 4 Team. Kansas losing may actually have helped me more then anybody else. I'm in the Top 10 but I am the only one that has Ohio St winning. One guy I am worried about, he is in 2nd place but has 11 Sweet 16 teams remaining. He has Kentucky.
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 09:41 AM
St. Johns offered a contract in excess of 3 mil to Billy Donovan and were turned down. Good sign anyway, shows we'll spend big money.
kbgreen
03-23-2010, 10:21 AM
St. Johns offered a contract in excess of 3 mil to Billy Donovan and were turned down. Good sign anyway, shows we'll spend big money.
I did not hear that but it sounds bogus, Donovan already makes more money than that offer so if they made the offer it was not serious (for publicity only) bordering on an insult.
Barry the Baptist
03-23-2010, 10:22 AM
St. Johns offered a contract in excess of 3 mil to Billy Donovan and were turned down. Good sign anyway, shows we'll spend big money.
They have to take a look at Jacobsen. The guy can flat out coach. He outcoached Lon Kruger and Bill Self. One guy coached in the NBA the other has a national title.
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 11:31 AM
I did not hear that but it sounds bogus, Donovan already makes more money than that offer so if they made the offer it was not serious (for publicity only) bordering on an insult.
He makes 3.5 a yr, so if they offered more than 3 it's about the same. Also, he'd have the chance to make significantly more with endorsements and such.
kinghenry89
03-23-2010, 01:06 PM
St. Johns offered a contract in excess of 3 mil to Billy Donovan and were turned down. Good sign anyway, shows we'll spend big money.
But who's gonna take their money? Donovan and Pitino are going nowhere. Is Paul Hewitt really worth what it will take to pry him away from the Ramblin' Wreck?
I just pray for the Johnnies that they can do better than Tom Pecora.
nyjunc
03-23-2010, 01:35 PM
But who's gonna take their money? Donovan and Pitino are going nowhere. Is Paul Hewitt really worth what it will take to pry him away from the Ramblin' Wreck?
I just pray for the Johnnies that they can do better than Tom Pecora.
Hewitt is a great recruiter but a horrible coach. he had the one great run to the title game in '04 but since then his teams have disappointed on a regular basis. His team this year should have been an elite 8 type of team but they were lucky to even make the Tourney.
Jetfanmack
03-23-2010, 01:40 PM
I understand why the Nets and Sixers want Jay Wright, but he would be a stupid hire. He's simply not a great X's and O's guy. He's perfect for a college program, but I don't think he'd be a great NBA coach at all. Not to mention, we just lost to St. Mary's in the 2nd round. Why now?
nyjunc
03-23-2010, 01:42 PM
I understand why the Nets and Sixers want Jay Wright, but he would be a stupid hire. He's simply not a great X's and O's guy. He's perfect for a college program, but I don't think he'd be a great NBA coach at all. Not to mention, we just lost to St. Mary's in the 2nd round. Why now?
He's done a great job rebuilding 'Nova and really turning it into a top 10 program over the past few years. yes they disappointed this year and he deserves some blame for that but it doesn't erase all the good he has done which includes a FF app just last year.
Jetfanmack
03-23-2010, 01:50 PM
He's done a great job rebuilding 'Nova and really turning it into a top 10 program over the past few years. yes they disappointed this year and he deserves some blame for that but it doesn't erase all the good he has done which includes a FF app just last year.
No doubt. He's done a fantastic job at Villanova. But a lot of coaches do great jobs in college, and most don't translate to the NBA. I don't think Wright's system really does.
Barry the Baptist
03-23-2010, 01:55 PM
No doubt. He's done a fantastic job at Villanova. But a lot of coaches do great jobs in college, and most don't translate to the NBA. I don't think Wright's system really does.
Lon Kruger comes to mind, guy is a great teacher and great CBB coach but you don't teach in the NBA. You just manage egos.
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 02:00 PM
But who's gonna take their money? Donovan and Pitino are going nowhere. Is Paul Hewitt really worth what it will take to pry him away from the Ramblin' Wreck?
I just pray for the Johnnies that they can do better than Tom Pecora.
Obviously, if they got Hewitt, they wouldnt pay him 3 mil. GA Tech has given permission to SJU to talk to Hewitt and they waived his buyout, it's pretty obvious they want him gone.
nyjunc
03-23-2010, 02:17 PM
Lon Kruger comes to mind, guy is a great teacher and great CBB coach but you don't teach in the NBA. You just manage egos.
He never really had a chance and wasn't working for an organization committed to winning. his last year there they won 35 games, they didn't win that many again until 5 years later.
I think it is a but of a myth that college guys cannot do well in the NBA. They just don't stick around long enough to have enough success. Larry brown won titles in both the NCAA and NBA, Pitino did a great job w/ the Knicks, Cal was doing fine w/ the Nets until the lockout year,...
kinghenry89
03-23-2010, 02:35 PM
Obviously, if they got Hewitt, they wouldnt pay him 3 mil. GA Tech has given permission to SJU to talk to Hewitt and they waived his buyout, it's pretty obvious they want him gone.
That in and of itself should be a huge red flag. If GT is so willing to let him walk right after extending his deal, there's obviously a reason.
The smart money is it' his shitty record in the ACC.
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 03:01 PM
Looks like Tom Pecora will become the new HC of Fordham and it's looking more and more likely Paul Hewitt will be the coach of St. Johns.
GatorNation52
03-23-2010, 03:07 PM
He makes 3.5 a yr, so if they offered more than 3 it's about the same. Also, he'd have the chance to make significantly more with endorsements and such.
As a guy whose gone to both UF and SJU, there is no way that Donovan leaves UF for SJU. Based solely on the facilities and the prestige of the program, there is zero appeal in leaving UF for SJU. SJU facilities are pathetic, I've played basketball at Carnaseca, on the court SJU plays on. The court is in terrible condition. At UF they would never let students on the actual court at the O'Connell Center, where games are played. We werent even allowed on their practice courts. Just my opinion but I would imagine there is zero appeal to Donovan.
nyjunc
03-23-2010, 03:08 PM
Looks like Tom Pecora will become the new HC of Fordham and it's looking more and more likely Paul Hewitt will be the coach of St. Johns.
The good news is Hewitt will bring in talent which is the key to turning around a program.
nyjunc
03-23-2010, 03:10 PM
As a guy whose gone to both UF and SJU, there is no way that Donovan leaves UF for SJU. Based solely on the facilities and the prestige of the program, there is zero appeal in leaving UF for SJU. SJU facilities are pathetic, I've played basketball at Carnaseca, on the court SJU plays on. The court is in terrible condition. At UF they would never let students on the actual court at the O'Connell Center, where games are played. We werent even allowed on their practice courts. Just my opinion but I would imagine there is zero appeal to Donovan.
Prestige goes to SJU, it has the better tradition and SJU plays most of its games at the Garden so they get that check as well. UF has a better fanbase, better campus, better on capus facilities, easier to recruit, etc...
Yisman
03-23-2010, 03:50 PM
He makes 3.5 a yr, so if they offered more than 3 it's about the same. Also, he'd have the chance to make significantly more with endorsements and such.
I think the offer was for the publicity. It would make no sense for him to leave Florida to take less money at a mess of a program at St. John's. It's not like he's a Red Storm alumnus and this is his dream job or something.
But who's gonna take their money? Donovan and Pitino are going nowhere. Is Paul Hewitt really worth what it will take to pry him away from the Ramblin' Wreck?
I listened to Francesa yesterday for a bit and he seemed to think there's a good chance St. John's hires Hewitt because someone (forgot the name) really likes him.
However, the Atlanta Journal Constitution is reporting (To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.) that Hewitt said it's "highly unlikely" he'd leave GT.
Barry the Baptist
03-23-2010, 03:59 PM
I think the offer was for the publicity. It would make no sense for him to leave Florida to take less money at a mess of a program at St. John's. It's not like he's a Red Storm alumnus and this is his dream job or something.
I listened to Francesa yesterday for a bit and he seemed to think there's a good chance St. John's hires Hewitt because someone (forgot the name) really likes him.
However, the Atlanta Journal Constitution is reporting (To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.) that Hewitt said it's "highly unlikely" he'd leave GT.
What was Roy William's response when asked about North Carolina? Didn't Cal say something about not leaving Memphis? Gillsepie about not leaving A&M?
Yisman
03-23-2010, 04:07 PM
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What was Roy William's response when asked about North Carolina? Didn't Cal say something about not leaving Memphis? Gillsepie about not leaving A&M?
Yes, coaches lie all the time about whether they're leaving, but they'd rather avoid it. The most notable one by far was Nick Saban.
In these situations, they pretty much have to deny it, I think.
Williams said Zeller may not play against UAB tonight, btw.
nyjunc
03-23-2010, 04:11 PM
Yes, coaches lie all the time about whether they're leaving, but they'd rather avoid it. The most notable one by far was Nick Saban.
In these situations, they pretty much have to deny it, I think.
Williams said Zeller may not play against UAB tonight, btw.
The latest word is he is likely to play, it depends how he is feeling in pregame.
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 05:38 PM
St. Johns is interviewing Hewitt tomorrow. I bet he becomes coach within a week.
GatorNation52
03-23-2010, 05:55 PM
Prestige goes to SJU, it has the better tradition and SJU plays most of its games at the Garden so they get that check as well. UF has a better fanbase, better campus, better on capus facilities, easier to recruit, etc...
I dont know about the prestige issue. They do have a longer tradition but they havent had a decent player or team since Ron Artest left. I'll give you the Garden, but the truth is the combination of fanbase and the campus take a lot away from the home court advantage the Garden could provide. The fans at SJU dont really seem to care at all about the team and a lot dont want to bother going to the games cause campus is in Queens with no very direct way to get to the garden. On top of that, the team isnt any good. I think that all goes to the prestige of the team. But like I said SJU definitely has more of a history, but we both know the prestige issue matters in the eyes of the recruits and recruits arent too worried about what Chris Mullen did in the '80s. They more likely notice the back to back titles UF won in 06 and 07.
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 06:43 PM
I dont know about the prestige issue. They do have a longer tradition but they havent had a decent player or team since Ron Artest left. I'll give you the Garden, but the truth is the combination of fanbase and the campus take a lot away from the home court advantage the Garden could provide. The fans at SJU dont really seem to care at all about the team and a lot dont want to bother going to the games cause campus is in Queens with no very direct way to get to the garden. On top of that, the team isnt any good. I think that all goes to the prestige of the team. But like I said SJU definitely has more of a history, but we both know the prestige issue matters in the eyes of the recruits and recruits arent too worried about what Chris Mullen did in the '80s. They more likely notice the back to back titles UF won in 06 and 07.
Dude, it's call the train? It goes right to the garden. Also, I highly the people at UF would be caring about Florida Bball if they had been as bad as SJU had been the last couple of years. If SJU had won back-to-back titles 3 yrs ago people would be all over SJU Bball, you must not live in NY.
Poeman
03-23-2010, 06:50 PM
As a guy whose gone to both UF and SJU, there is no way that Donovan leaves UF for SJU. Based solely on the facilities and the prestige of the program, there is zero appeal in leaving UF for SJU. SJU facilities are pathetic, I've played basketball at Carnaseca, on the court SJU plays on. The court is in terrible condition. At UF they would never let students on the actual court at the O'Connell Center, where games are played. We werent even allowed on their practice courts. Just my opinion but I would imagine there is zero appeal to Donovan.
when did you play at carnaseca? Ive been to sju for the past 4 years and they renovated that arena and built taffner.
SJU has one of the best facilities for practice now, and carnaseca is a small but decent place. Our jewel is still MSG
Poeman
03-23-2010, 06:51 PM
St. Johns is interviewing Hewitt tomorrow. I bet he becomes coach within a week.
Btw did you attend SJU as a student?
Poeman
03-23-2010, 06:52 PM
I dont know about the prestige issue. They do have a longer tradition but they havent had a decent player or team since Ron Artest left. I'll give you the Garden, but the truth is the combination of fanbase and the campus take a lot away from the home court advantage the Garden could provide. The fans at SJU dont really seem to care at all about the team and a lot dont want to bother going to the games cause campus is in Queens with no very direct way to get to the garden. On top of that, the team isnt any good. I think that all goes to the prestige of the team. But like I said SJU definitely has more of a history, but we both know the prestige issue matters in the eyes of the recruits and recruits arent too worried about what Chris Mullen did in the '80s. They more likely notice the back to back titles UF won in 06 and 07.
Their last decent player was Omar Cook...The dude was an idiot and left SJU after his freshman year for college.
Also, Marcus Hatten beating Duke in 03 was the reason I chose SJU :rofl:
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 06:57 PM
Btw did you attend SJU as a student?
I did not, I've actually never been to a SJU home game, or on campus, I've seen them twice at the Carrier Dome. I went to school upstate but I live on Long Island.
Yisman
03-23-2010, 07:55 PM
Dude, it's call the train? It goes right to the garden.
That's not direct. There's no subway stop within walking distance of the campus, as far as I know. So you have to do what I do (when I want to go to Manhattan), which is take a bus to the subway station, then take the subway.
Cakes
03-23-2010, 07:57 PM
I did not, I've actually never been to a SJU home game, or on campus, I've seen them twice at the Carrier Dome. I went to school upstate but I live on Long Island.
Oh, I had thought you were a current SJU student.
Poeman
03-23-2010, 07:59 PM
I did not, I've actually never been to a SJU home game, or on campus, I've seen them twice at the Carrier Dome. I went to school upstate but I live on Long Island.
you should check out the campus when they get a new coach...Its open to everyone. Tickets at Carnaseca should be cheap...They renovated that place alot...took them 3 years. You're in LI so i definitely recommend you go there for a game if you like them.
Yisman
03-23-2010, 08:20 PM
sloppy game in Mississippi.
Could be headed to double OT.
There are wet spots all over the court, and players have been going down left and right.
On a key exchange, both teams turned it over because players slipped.
A Tech player slipped and lost the ball, and then an Ole Miss player was called for traveling after slipping.
It's going to double OT.
Tech had the ball with over 8 seconds left in OT tied, and somehow the shot ended up being a 40 foot heave (airball). Poor job.
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 08:22 PM
Oh, I had thought you were a current SJU student.
I got into St. Johns law school, but I'm not going, basically the same thing.
Paul Hewitt said tonight, it's highly likely that he leaves GA Tech, so this could get interesting.
Cakes
03-23-2010, 08:23 PM
I saw the UConn Husky Bitches were beating Temple 60-24 at one point earlier tonight
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 08:30 PM
I saw the UConn Husky Bitches were beating Temple 60-24 at one point earlier tonight
It was 55-12 at halftime.
Yisman
03-23-2010, 08:39 PM
Jon Sciambi called Oxford "Oxville". Way to rename the city.
Ole Miss finally wins.
Texas Tech tied it at 87 with a three, but with over 8 seconds left, they chose to use a full court press, which allowed a Rebel to make it to the rim pretty easily.
Yisman
03-23-2010, 08:42 PM
I got into St. Johns law school, but I'm not going, basically the same thing.
Paul Hewitt said tonight, it's highly likely that he leaves GA Tech, so this could get interesting.
What? .
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 08:50 PM
What? .
What to which part?
Yisman
03-23-2010, 09:01 PM
both parts.
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 09:30 PM
Ok, so it looks like SJU and Hewitt met tonight in Atlanta and a deal is probably gonna happen soon. He's basically Norm 2.0, they look the same, coach the same, just Hewitt can recruit better.
MParty7441
03-23-2010, 09:38 PM
Done Deal-Hewitt out at GT, in at SJU.
Yisman
03-23-2010, 10:06 PM
Tar Heels win at UAB!
They really should win the tournament now, after taking the first three.
Ole Miss, dayton/ill, and vt/ri (winner plays UNC a week from today) is the rest of the final four.
Yisman
03-23-2010, 10:14 PM
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SYRACUSE, N.Y. — West Virginia starting point guard Darryl Bryant will miss the rest of the NCAA tournament after breaking his right foot, school officials confirmed Tuesday night.
The loss is a blow to the second-seeded Mountaineers who face No. 11 Washington in Thursday's East Regional semifinals at the Carrier Dome in Syracuse, N.Y.
Bryant, a 6-foot-2 sophomore, broke the fifth metatarsal in his right foot. He started 31 of 35 games this season while averaging 9.3 points, 3.1 assists and 2.2 rebounds.
Joe Mazzulla, a 6-2 junior, will likely replace Bryant in the starting lineup.
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Mazzulla's got a bad shoulder and it's been affecting him. WVU is in big trouble.
nyjunc
03-24-2010, 07:07 AM
Jon Sciambi called Oxford "Oxville". Way to rename the city.
Ole Miss finally wins.
Texas Tech tied it at 87 with a three, but with over 8 seconds left, they chose to use a full court press, which allowed a Rebel to make it to the rim pretty easily.
I thought that game was never going to end, I basically missed almost the entire first half of the Carolina game.
If Carolina was playing like this a month earlier they might be still playing in the NCAA Tourney or at least have made it and won a game. John Henson gets better every game and although we still see some dumb turnovers Larry Drew looks much more confident and this is a great sign for next year- although there are rumors Drew is going to transfer.
Last night wasn't as crisp a game as Saturday was but they executed down the stretch in a tough environment and earned their way back to NYC and a 3rd straight Final Four trip:smile: regardless of what happens in NY this team can feel alot better about themselves heading into next year.
As for WVU, that is awful news. I thought UW was goin to win anyway the way they have been playing but I wish WVU got the chance to play them healthy.
Yisman
03-24-2010, 12:06 PM
junc if you have a computer with you, I think you can choose which game to watch on 360. So people who wanted to watch UNC-UAB could switch to a different feed.
Of course on the TV channel, they're going to show the end of the first game, which unfortunately overran a heck of a lot of the second game. That's what happens when you schedule them 2 hours apart, heh.
nyjunc
03-24-2010, 12:43 PM
junc if you have a computer with you, I think you can choose which game to watch on 360. So people who wanted to watch UNC-UAB could switch to a different feed.
Of course on the TV channel, they're going to show the end of the first game, which unfortunately overran a heck of a lot of the second game. That's what happens when you schedule them 2 hours apart, heh.
2 hours used to be enough time but now w/ so many commercials it makes the games last longer.
GatorNation52
03-24-2010, 01:54 PM
I got into St. Johns law school, but I'm not going, basically the same thing.
Paul Hewitt said tonight, it's highly likely that he leaves GA Tech, so this could get interesting.
Haha, I cannot tell you how much I envy your decision not to go to St. Johns Law.
Yisman
03-24-2010, 02:20 PM
2 hours used to be enough time but now w/ so many commercials it makes the games last longer.
A normal game in regulation would normally finish in two hours, but not if it's a nationally televised game (basically, any game on CBS or ESPN). They add in extra TV timeouts, so even games that are not close (no excessive fouling and timeouts in the final minutes) end up taking over two hours.
Barry the Baptist
03-24-2010, 02:42 PM
A normal game in regulation would normally finish in two hours, but not if it's a nationally televised game (basically, any game on CBS or ESPN). They add in extra TV timeouts, so even games that are not close (no excessive fouling and timeouts in the final minutes) end up taking over two hours.
At least when your at NCAA Tourney games you get the entertainment of cheerleaders or the bands instead of the same old Southwest Bags commercial.
nyjunc
03-24-2010, 02:50 PM
A normal game in regulation would normally finish in two hours, but not if it's a nationally televised game (basically, any game on CBS or ESPN). They add in extra TV timeouts, so even games that are not close (no excessive fouling and timeouts in the final minutes) end up taking over two hours.
Every TV game has a TV timeout uner 16 mins, 12, 8 and 4. In the NCAAs the timeouts are longer for more commercials but most reg season games are finished w/in the 2 hour block. Either way, it's not as bad as TV timeouts for NFL games.
nyjunc
03-24-2010, 02:51 PM
At least when your at NCAA Tourney games you get the entertainment of cheerleaders or the bands instead of the same old Southwest Bags commercial.
When I went to the 2007 regionals at the meadowlands I definitely enjoyed the USC cheerleaders. :up:
Talisman
03-24-2010, 02:53 PM
Done Deal-Hewitt out at GT, in at SJU.
Link?
If this is true I can't say I'm sad to see him go. He recruits very well for us, but my main beef with him was his inability to coach up the top-level recruits he brings in. When you go after, and get, the one-and-dones, you have to be able to assert yourself to them in order to get the most out of them for that one year. For most of his tenure, GT has significantly underachieved. Its the few bright seasons that have kept the AD paying his salary. Although I will say that the man knows how to coach defense, but I was getting pretty tired of all the inexcusable TOs his teams have committed over the years.
Sundayjack
03-24-2010, 04:21 PM
You college basketball nerds would probably appreciate this.
Autistic Teen Picks First Two NCAA Rounds Perfectly (To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily.)
He studied all season for the tourney
By DICK JOHNSON and ANDREW GREINER
Updated 1:34 AM CDT, Wed, Mar 24, 2010
An autistic teenager from the Chicago area has done something almost impossible.
Nearly 48 games into an upset-filled NCAA tournament, 17-year-old Alex Hermann is perfect.
"It's amazing," he says. Truly.
The teenager predicted that Northern Iowa would beat the Kansas Jayhawks. He picked Ohio to knock off Georgetown. And Cornell to knock off Wisconsin.
In fact, he picked every game through the first two rounds correctly. The odds of anybody doing that? One in 13,460,000, according to BookofOdds.com. It's easier to win the lottery. Twice.
"I'm good at math," Alex, a Glenbrook South High School student, said. "I'm kind of good at math and at stats I see on TV during the game."
Alex entered the bracket on CBSsports.com's bracket challenge. His 24-year-old brother Andrew, who helped him enter his picks into CBS' bracket manager, also entered the contest -- and ranks behind 500,000 other people.
“My bracket is totally shot,” hist 24-year-old brother Andrew said. “So is everyone else I know.”
ESPN estimates around 4.78 million played in their bracket challenge, but no one picked all the games correctly. The leader at ESPN’s bracket has already missed four games.
But Alex Hermann's miraculous bracket is still a picture of perfection.
Andrew is still shocked --- after looking it over for the umpteenth time, he told his mother to alert the media.
"I checked his bracket and it was off the chart," Andrew said. "I thought it was a big deal."
Alex doesn't get anything for perfection. He entered one of three bracket games offered by CBS -- the only one without a prize attached.
Alex’s basketball knowledge could have been worth a fortune. One of the other CBS games offers a prize of $5,000 per round. Other sites offer even more money -- Yahoo offers $1 million for a perfect bracket; SportsBook.com offers $13 million.
“If he would have won any money he would have just saved it,” his mother Diane said. "He's a big saver."
CBSSports.com can not confirm Alex's entry -- the company doesn't track entries to their Bracket Manager program. Unlike CBSSports' Bracket Challenge, which ranks players nationally and locks entries once the tournament begins, Bracket Challenge does allow changes after play starts.
The Hermanns insist, however, that they filled out their brackets as a family before the tournament started, and haven't touched the picks since. When asked whether the bracket was altered after the tourney began, Alex's mother said, simply, "no."
And then there's this: Alex picked Purdue to win the whole thing. Probably not going to happen.
And that just happens to be his brother’s alma mater.
“They’re his favorite for that reason,” Diane said. Or maybe he knows something no one else does.
And there are still four rounds remaining, so it could fall apart.
The odds of a perfect wire to wire bracket? As high as 1 in 1,000,000,000,000.
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Talisman
03-24-2010, 04:28 PM
You college basketball nerds would probably appreciate this.
They talked about this on the Dan Patrick show, pretty cool story. Sucks he chose Purdue to go all the way though out of family loyalty
wildthing2022000
03-24-2010, 04:29 PM
You college basketball nerds would probably appreciate this.
Not really, Purdue in the final? He'll get at least 2 games wrong this week.
nyjunc
03-24-2010, 04:30 PM
They talked about this on the Dan Patrick show, pretty cool story. Sucks he chose Purdue to go all the way though out of family loyalty
As long as Purdue wins one more I'll be happy:grin:
MParty7441
03-24-2010, 06:00 PM
Looks like SJU will announce Hewitt as the new coach within a day or two.
MParty7441
03-24-2010, 06:01 PM
Haha, I cannot tell you how much I envy your decision not to go to St. Johns Law.
I'm guessing you went there and are not doing so well?
Yisman
03-24-2010, 06:09 PM
that story about the autistic kid is nonsense. I saw it earlier.
A)He's using the only CBS thing that doesn't offer prizes, because it's a bracket manager. You can change your picks at any time.
So if I see Cornell win, I can change my bracket to put Cornell there.
It cannot be verified. Maybe these are his original picks, maybe he changed them. Either way, it renders the whole "perfect bracket" claim meaningless.
B)He picked Purdue to win it all, which means that anything about his using his "superior basketball knowledge" to make the bracket is pure nonsense.
Yisman
03-24-2010, 06:11 PM
Every TV game has a TV timeout uner 16 mins, 12, 8 and 4. In the NCAAs the timeouts are longer for more commercials but most reg season games are finished w/in the 2 hour block. Either way, it's not as bad as TV timeouts for NFL games.
yeah, I'm saying the non-nationally televised games finish quicker because they don't have the mandatory timeouts.
Depth is actually less important during the tournament for this reason. Of course, if you lack depth and you have a game where a key player or two get in foul trouble...
At least when your at NCAA Tourney games you get the entertainment of cheerleaders or the bands instead of the same old Southwest Bags commercial.
Hell yeah I'd rather be there.
Barry the Baptist
03-25-2010, 06:32 AM
When I went to the 2007 regionals at the meadowlands I definitely enjoyed the USC cheerleaders. :up:
Oh yeah, I've seen them too. UCLA had quite a few on the hotness chart
I can without a doubt say that Portland St had the ugliest cheerleaders I've ever seen closely followed by Wisconsin. Even Sacramento St had better looking girls then Wisconsin.
That being said the most underrated I've seen in person where Texas A&M Corpus Christi.
Best looking where Oregon and it wasn't even close, BYU has some really hot ones too but good luck unless your LDS.
I think I said this on here but a few years ago my buddy who works for the press (he's a photog so I'm not sure how that qualifies as media but they fall under the same umbrella) and I were in Omaha and found ourselves getting drunk with the Kansas cheerleaders. This was the night before they blew out UNLV. He ended up screwing one of them and I get stuck talking to her girlfriend thanks to being married.
nyjunc
03-25-2010, 12:33 PM
ESPN has a report that says Hewitt will remain at Ga Tech.
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Barry the Baptist
03-25-2010, 12:55 PM
ESPN has a report that says Hewitt will remain at Ga Tech.
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I don't know why St Johns would want him, he has recruited well but that talent hasn't translated to alot of success. He's probably in the upper echelon of coaches but he's hardly a top flight guy.
nyjunc
03-25-2010, 01:15 PM
I don't know why St Johns would want him, he has recruited well but that talent hasn't translated to alot of success. He's probably in the upper echelon of coaches but he's hardly a top flight guy.
You can't win big w/o talent and he knows how to bring in talent. He'd be a good hire for SJU but they could do better or at least try to do better.
MParty7441
03-25-2010, 02:59 PM
What are we going to do?!?! Hewitt is basically Norm 2.0 with better recruiting. I'm interested to see where the school goes from here.
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