Michael Jackson - Cardiac Arrest - Dead at 50

[Learn To Swim]

I never believed Michael had sex with those boys
Michael is guilty of one thing
Being naive which is the fault of a lot of us
IT is hard to believe that people are so ugly
But we are

Considering the father is a low life and would rather be concerned with a buyout than true justice speaks volumes of his true intentions. The father and son had a serious falling out. And considering in the manner in which he treated his son speaks volumes.
I'll also take at the end of the day a man who donated over 300 million in charities over a 20 year period than a father who has been nothing but a blood sucker all his life.

The press will never go with story of telling the truth because they also played a big part in creating the negative image of MJ.
With names like Jacko, they have been trying to paint a negative image in the minds of the public and unfortunately many would rather believer the worse about someone instead of the best.Also, he was a pedophile.

[brothermoose]

Also, he was a pedophile.

Listen, just because he enjoys little boys company, likes to sleep in the same bed with them while giving them alcohol, and has been accused of it multiple times does not necessarily mean he is a pedophile.

[winstonbiggs]

I never believed Michael had sex with those boys
Michael is guilty of one thing
Being naive which is the fault of a lot of us
IT is hard to believe that people are so ugly
But we are

Considering the father is a low life and would rather be concerned with a buyout than true justice speaks volumes of his true intentions. The father and son had a serious falling out. And considering in the manner in which he treated his son speaks volumes.
I'll also take at the end of the day a man who donated over 300 million in charities over a 20 year period than a father who has been nothing but a blood sucker all his life.

The press will never go with story of telling the truth because they also played a big part in creating the negative image of MJ.
With names like Jacko, they have been trying to paint a negative image in the minds of the public and unfortunately many would rather believer the worse about someone instead of the best.

The press has treated him with kid gloves since day one. They love him but they will turn on anyone because the press loves a train wreck, it sells papers. Michael Jackson who I love as an artists has been a slow developing train wreck for 45 years now. That's not the press that's him.

It's sad to have watched him do what he has done to himself with the final act killing himself but you can't blame the press for any of that.

Was he a victim, yes, was he victimized yes but he was also an adult for the last 30 years and his greatest foil has been himself.

[KOZ]

I never believed Michael had sex with those boys
Michael is guilty of one thing
Being naive which is the fault of a lot of us
IT is hard to believe that people are so ugly
But we are

Considering the father is a low life and would rather be concerned with a buyout than true justice speaks volumes of his true intentions. The father and son had a serious falling out. And considering in the manner in which he treated his son speaks volumes.
I'll also take at the end of the day a man who donated over 300 million in charities over a 20 year period than a father who has been nothing but a blood sucker all his life.

The press will never go with story of telling the truth because they also played a big part in creating the negative image of MJ.
With names like Jacko, they have been trying to paint a negative image in the minds of the public and unfortunately many would rather believer the worse about someone instead of the best.

Let me guess, you took off from work, went to the Apollo and signed the tribute wall, right?

[JetBlue]

I never believed Michael had sex with those boys
Michael is guilty of one thing
Being naive which is the fault of a lot of us
IT is hard to believe that people are so ugly
But we are

Considering the father is a low life and would rather be concerned with a buyout than true justice speaks volumes of his true intentions. The father and son had a serious falling out. And considering in the manner in which he treated his son speaks volumes.
I'll also take at the end of the day a man who donated over 300 million in charities over a 20 year period than a father who has been nothing but a blood sucker all his life.

The press will never go with story of telling the truth because they also played a big part in creating the negative image of MJ.
With names like Jacko, they have been trying to paint a negative image in the minds of the public and unfortunately many would rather believer the worse about someone instead of the best.

did you just state that Michael was naive because of alot of us? I mean, that's what you wrote.

last I checked, it is possible for the father to have been a POS and Michael to have molested him. the two aren't mutually exclusive.

it could have easily been that Michael molested him and the father took advantage of that to make money, as opposed to the father taking advantage of Michael's kindness and extorting him. fact is, you don't know either way and are simply siding with what makes you feel better about MJ, clearly representing a bias that invalidates any opinion on the matter. that's like asking Laura Bush whether her husband was a good President.

[ukilledkenny]

I never believed Michael had sex with those boys
Michael is guilty of one thing
Being naive which is the fault of a lot of us
IT is hard to believe that people are so ugly
But we are

Considering the father is a low life and would rather be concerned with a buyout than true justice speaks volumes of his true intentions. The father and son had a serious falling out. And considering in the manner in which he treated his son speaks volumes.
I'll also take at the end of the day a man who donated over 300 million in charities over a 20 year period than a father who has been nothing but a blood sucker all his life.

The press will never go with story of telling the truth because they also played a big part in creating the negative image of MJ.
With names like Jacko, they have been trying to paint a negative image in the minds of the public and unfortunately many would rather believer the worse about someone instead of the best.

I'm still hoping to find out where you get the real news that the mainstream media covers up.

[Learn To Swim]

Well, /b/ just started a severely botched "Rick Astley is dead" hoax. By Gunther's logic: totally true!

RIP, Rick. We're never gonna give you up.

[cassie96]

The DEA has joined the MP investigation.

Some MD's are praying their names are not on those medication bottles left behind...another Anna Nichole mess.

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[Hemi]

Listen, just because he enjoys little boys company, likes to sleep in the same bed with them while giving them alcohol, and has been accused of it multiple times does not necessarily mean he is a pedophile.

I thought it was Jesus Juice. And Gunther, when you look at the facts, you think it is ok he likes to lay in bed with little boys and give them alchohol? And you never answered what media you listen to as you told us all the media lies.

[Hemi]

I never believed Michael had sex with those boys
Michael is guilty of one thing
Being naive which is the fault of a lot of us
IT is hard to believe that people are so ugly
But we are

Considering the father is a low life and would rather be concerned with a buyout than true justice speaks volumes of his true intentions. The father and son had a serious falling out. And considering in the manner in which he treated his son speaks volumes.
I'll also take at the end of the day a man who donated over 300 million in charities over a 20 year period than a father who has been nothing but a blood sucker all his life.

The press will never go with story of telling the truth because they also played a big part in creating the negative image of MJ.
With names like Jacko, they have been trying to paint a negative image in the minds of the public and unfortunately many would rather believer the worse about someone instead of the best.

Again, you never answered the question I posed here. I am not looking for personal opinion, I was asking for facts.

[xmscott]

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Why don't those get old? I laugh at each new one!

[Murrell2878]

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Report: Coroner Rules Jackson's Death a Homicide
Today 3:03 PM PDT by Josh Grossberg


Kevin Mazur/AEG via Getty Images

The cause of Michael Jackson's death? Homicide.

According to a published report citing a law enforcement official close to the case, the popster died as the result of criminal wrongdoing, making it likelier than ever that his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, will now face involuntary manslaughter charges.

Meanwhile, E! News has obtained a search warrant affidavit unsealed today in Houston that quotes Los Angeles County Coroner's officials as saying Jackson had lethal levels of propofol in his system when he died.

"Toxicology analysis shows Michael Jackson had lethal levels of propofol in his blood," reads the court document.

Per the affidavit, Murray told the LAPD he'd been treating the 50-year-old singer for insomnia for six weeks and giving him 50 milligrams of the powerful anesthetic intravenously every night.

The doctor not only acknowledged that he obtained and administered propofol on June 25, the morning Jackson died, but he also admitted to leaving the King of Pop under the influence of the drug when he left the room to tend to other business.

The plot thickens.

According to Murray's account, Jackson was having trouble sleeping the night of June 24. Noticing that the Moonwalker was forming what he believed was an addiction, the doctor claimed he had been trying to wean him off propofol for some time with little success and, as a result, initially withheld the drug traditionally used only in hospitals and monitored by an anesthesiologist.

Instead, he gave Jackson the milder sedative Valium at 1:30 a.m. With Jackson still awake, he next tried giving him a shot of lorazepam at 2 a.m. followed by midazolam. When those failed to have any effect, Murray said he then decided to give him 25 milligrams of propofol, which induced sleep right away.

But in perhaps the affidavit's biggest bombshell, the cardiologist admitted to detectives that he left Jackson alone to go make phone calls to his Houston office and family members. When he returned, Murray found Jackson had stopped breathing. He immediately began performing CPR as one of the entertainer's employees dialed 911.

Such admissions don't bode well for the doc, whom police are considering charging with involuntary manslaughter. However, while it's now coming out that M.J. had lethal levels of the drug in his body, the L.A. County Coroner's office still has not issued an official cause of death.

Autopsy results have been delayed indefinitely.

One thing Murray can breathe a little easier about: Per the Los Angeles Times, investigators have not discovered any evidence that the doc bought propofol under his medical license or that he had obtained it illegally, noting Jackson had apparently been prescribed the medication from several other doctors, two of whom were reportedly based in Germany.

Meanwhile, Jackson's family is standing by for answers.

"The Jackson family has full confidence in the legal process, and commends the ongoing efforts of the L.A. County Coroner, the L.A. District Attorney and the L.A. Police Department," family rep Ken Sunshine said in a statement Monday.

"The family looks forward to the day that justice can be served."

(Originally published Aug. 24, 2009, at 1:49 p.m. PT)

[JetBlue]

if the doctor is at fault for administering the drug, so is Michael Jackson for wanting it and paying for it, which makes his death just as equally a suicide, so I find it logically dishonest to ignore one in favor of the other.

[brothermoose]

if the doctor is at fault for administering the drug, so is Michael Jackson for wanting it and paying for it, which makes his death just as equally a suicide, so I find it logically dishonest to ignore one in favor of the other.

So you're saying that those little boys were asking for it?

[JetBlue]

So you're saying that those little boys were asking for it?
I don't know, were they asking for it? a boy not being sexually mature who sees sleep overs as innocent fun and play who gets molested certainly isn't asking for it. a child who sleeps in a bed with a grown man because they are interested in the sexual experience is asking for it. the answer to your question depends which of the types the boys he molested were.

were their parents asking for their children to be molested by having their children sleep in a bed with a grown man? that's an emphatic yes.

see how the dynamics you were attempting to correlate our two positions are very different yet you seem to want to make appear similar?

[Jake]

So the doctor is on the hook for doing his job? Or did I miss something.

[brothermoose]

I don't know, were they asking for it? a boy not being sexually mature who sees sleep overs as innocent fun and play who gets molested certainly isn't asking for it. a child who sleeps in a bed with a grown man because they are interested in the sexual experience is asking for it. the answer to your question depends which of the types the boys he molested were.

were their parents asking for their children to be molested by having their children sleep in a bed with a grown man? that's an emphatic yes.

see how the dynamics you were attempting to correlate our two positions are very different yet you seem to want to make appear similar?

So was Michael really suicidal or was the doctor fully negligent? Can't make such assumptions until all facts are revealed.

[JetBlue]

So was Michael really suicidal or was the doctor fully negligent? Can't make such assumptions until all facts are revealed.

both, that's the point.

[JCotchrocket]

So the doctor is on the hook for doing his job? Or did I miss something.

The doctor is on the hook for choosing profit over conscience. When you're as rich as Jackson was, it's easy to find an ethically-challenged physician who will right a prescription for anything requested.

If you're giving out an lethal dose of anesthesia-strength sedative every night for fucking insomnia, yeah, you deserve a manslaughter charge.

[Sundayjack]

Geezus, this creepy dood is going to keep us supplied with his brand of crazy even in death. Can't we just say that, yes, it was a homicide, but it was addition by subtraction?

[Dierking]

if the doctor is at fault for administering the drug, so is Michael Jackson for wanting it and paying for it, which makes his death just as equally a suicide, so I find it logically dishonest to ignore one in favor of the other.Doctors are typically held to a higher standard than those that desire the drugs they can provide.

[Green Lantern]

This didn't take as long as Elvis:
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[JetBlue]

This didn't take as long as Elvis:
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that's awesome. so, what exactly is the claim with that video, that he is still alive or that the coroner killed him after he arrived alive?

if MJ was still alive, why would he go to the coroner's office at all, seems like a pretty unnecessary step to take.

[Green Lantern]

that's awesome. so, what exactly is the claim with that video, that he is still alive or that the coroner killed him after he arrived alive?

if MJ was still alive, why would he go to the coroner's office at all, seems like a pretty unnecessary step to take.

I think the claim is that the poster doesn't like money, so he uploaded this for the world to speculate on for free - bless his humble heart.

[Sundayjack]

I want Michael Jackson to die again. Just to make sure.

[ollie]

I want Michael Jackson to die again. Just to make sure.

that's because you hate black people

[Sundayjack]

that's because you hate black people

I have a bigger prejudice against people with no noses. I'm a nosist.

[Satan]

This didn't take as long as Elvis:
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fake done by rtl of germany

[The Dark Knight]

I saw "This is It" last night with my family. No matter what people say, he was a hell of a performer and that show was going to be INSANE! It was cool to see what was going to happen, but also depressing since it never will. They shot actual videos for each song and some were going to be 3D, etc. It was very well done. This was great to put together to show the world what Michael was about to premiere to the world, but also great for all of the people who put in all of that hard work and were unable to perform it due to his death. I recommend seeing it.

[Yisman]

one year anniversary.

[Johnny English]

I haven't read the whole thread, but my favourite ever line about MJ:

I'm not saying he was a paedophile. I really don't know if he was a paedophile. But if I was the world's richest paedophile, I'd build a funfair in my back garden.

[Satire?]

Yeah I totally forgot he died.

[Jetzz]

Why can't he just stay dead...

[Scikotic]

one year anniversary.

Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett both. They come 2nd however to my Godmother who died on this very day last year. Still a tough pill to swallow....

[Johnny English]

Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett both. They come 2nd however to my Godmother who died on this very day last year. Still a tough pill to swallow....

For me it coincides with the day that my father-in-law was admitted to hospital with the cancer that none of us knew he had, and which took him six weeks later. So yes, I share and have complete sympathy with your lack of interest in Jackson's death compared to a far more relevant personal anniversary.

[ShadeTree#55]

With the profits from his death reaching close to a billion, can anyone really believe his death was accidental?

Hmmm Keep and dude alive and funded who burns through millions a month, or he dies and we get our loans back more times then we can count.

[statjeff22]

It's a year later and I still don't care.

[KOZ]

Do you mean to tell me that none of you are taking off work and going to memorial services?

[brothermoose]

Do you mean to tell me that none of you are taking off work and going to memorial services?

I grabbed my crotch this morning.

[Scikotic]

I grabbed my crotch this morning.

That's SOP. Shouldn't ever really be considered a tribute to Michael.

[ukilledkenny]

so that's why i kept hearing his songs on the radio at work today.

[Cman55]

Joe Jackson is hellbent on getting some cash outta this..

[statjeff22]

As always, Joe Jackson is hellbent on getting some cash outta anything he can...

Fixed your post.