View Full Version : NFL Network Senior Bowl Coverage
ThunderbirdJet
01-22-2007, 02:22 PM
Here's the schedule for the NFL Network's coverage of the Senior Bowl Practice week:
Monday:
4pm to 5:30pm- Practice
8pm to 8:30pm- Recap
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday:
10am- Recap
10:30am to Noon- Practice
5pm to 7pm- Practice
9:30pm- Recap
Friday:
noon to 12:30PM- Recap
I'll be watching.... anyone else? There are also some recaps scheduled for re-airing at various times, including 12:30 am on most days.
ThunderbirdJet
01-22-2007, 03:15 PM
Great info so far.... Mayock is really talking up Tony Hunt. He siad he will be a second round jewel.... his only shortcoming is lack of breakaway speed, but he can accelerate through the hole, runs with power, isn't that easy to hit for a big back, can catch and pass block very well.
Talked about how Stanton had a very spotty year after high expectations, has some things to prove.
ThunderbirdJet
01-22-2007, 03:23 PM
I like Mayock.... probably because he alwys seems to like the same players I do! LOL.
He hust finished talking up Carriker, said opposing coaches had admitted to him that they could not move Carriker at all. They just could not move him, very strong at the point of attack... just what the Jets could use in a 3-4 DE...6-6, 292.
ThunderbirdJet
01-22-2007, 04:07 PM
No wonder Woodley has dropped latey... very unimpressive. gets knocked down pretty easilly in the one on one. This Beakman kid looks like a very good O line prospect. Carricker has better edge speed than I thought he did. Some of the O linemen look better than ecpected.
Namath2Kolber
01-22-2007, 04:16 PM
I wish I had NFL network. Keep updating please.
gustoonarmy
01-22-2007, 04:17 PM
I like Mayock.... probably because he alwys seems to like the same players I do! LOL.
He hust finished talking up Carriker, said opposing coaches had admitted to him that they could not move Carriker at all. They just could not move him, very strong at the point of attack... just what the Jets could use in a 3-4 DE...6-6, 292.
I like Mayock too , he doesn't have an agenda like some of the others :coughs: Kiper
jamesAngleton
01-22-2007, 04:31 PM
I was impressed with Anthony Spencer. I thought he had good size and speed. He shed some blocks, got by the LT. Woodley was eaten up by Levi Brown in the one on ones. The one guy who caught my eye was Brandon Mebane. He looked pretty good on the one on ones. He is 6-3 and is listed at 295. If he can gain 15 more lbs he can be a good NT. Adam Carriker is quick. Woodley did not look great on the one on ones but he was pretty effective on the live 7 on 7's.
ThunderbirdJet
01-22-2007, 04:36 PM
Troy Smith unimpressive so far, already like 3 fumbled snap exchanges. He doesn't seem to have very good field vision from the pocket either. Having said that, these kids, especially the QB's have to be confused. They got the playbook only last night, and it's raining to boot. So far, Stanton looks to be the best of the North's QB's.
Sorry to say Leonard hasn't looked good. he keeps going down on first contact. They said he lost about 15 pounds in two weeks to show he can run with the ball, but he hasn't looked powerful. Hunt dropped an easy pass.
Levi Brown and Beekman are very impressive. Ramirez got beat on a spin move by Okoye, but he learns fast. Okoye tried it again, and Ramirez pancacked him. Ramirez is one VERY strong kid, and huge. Coming from that throw happy Tx Tech offense, he's not used to having a hand down, but still has made the adjustment nicely.
Posluszny, Carricker, Brown, Beekman and Ramirez stood out to me.
gustoonarmy
01-22-2007, 04:49 PM
Alot of mocks have us taking Irons , anyone seen much of him?
ThunderbirdJet
01-22-2007, 05:11 PM
Irons I believe is on the South squad, which wasn't covered at all today.
vilmatic
01-22-2007, 05:15 PM
TJ - WONDERFUL coverage. Love hearing it. Brings me back to training camp days. God I love the offseason. Kinda perverse, I know. Anything at all you pick up on the DL players, I'd love to hear it. Carriker and Okoye are two names that I'll be following myself.
ThunderbirdJet
01-22-2007, 05:35 PM
TJ - WONDERFUL coverage. Love hearing it. Brings me back to training camp days. God I love the offseason. Kinda perverse, I know. Anything at all you pick up on the DL players, I'd love to hear it. Carriker and Okoye are two names that I'll be following myself.
The coverage could be better, vilmatic. They tend to get sidetracked with these sort of player highlight videos instead of covering what is happeneing on the practice field, with a split screen sort of thing. you see a kid make a great play, and Mayock and his sidekick are commenting on the highlight reels.
They could do that crap in a studio show, ya know? Often, I see a player make a great play, and I can't tell what player it was.... they are too busy commenting on a spotlighted player. It's annoying, really. They spend too much time talking about Gruden's coaching style too, instead of the players. Often, the practice film footage which is live, is nothing more than a backdrop for them to talk over.
Mayock puts up his rankings and rattles on about them.... they might spend 30% of the time actually commenting on the drills and what's happening on the field. But, this is nothing new, is it? Like Sunday night football, half of what the porducers are worried about is promoting their network, on air personalities and shows. What goes on on the filed is just a backdrop for selling whatever.
Cakes
01-22-2007, 06:48 PM
Troy Smith unimpressive so far, already like 3 fumbled snap exchanges. He doesn't seem to have very good field vision from the pocket either.
I only watched him play one game this past season and that was the Florida game. I did see him multiple times during the 2005 season. He was terribly unimpressive to me. He's sloppy with the ball and has poor pocket presence. He's also not big.
Shaun King, anyone?
ess-dog
01-22-2007, 08:58 PM
I like Mayock.... probably because he alwys seems to like the same players I do! LOL.
I like Mayock because he is not Mel Kiper Jr
The Dark Knight
01-22-2007, 09:01 PM
I don't like Mayock because he said Pennington was DONE and Clemens would start by Week 8. :)
KurtTheJetsFan
01-22-2007, 09:18 PM
No wonder Woodley has dropped latey... very unimpressive. gets knocked down pretty easilly in the one on one. This Beakman kid looks like a very good O line prospect. Carricker has better edge speed than I thought he did. Some of the O linemen look better than ecpected.
Woodly is the typical Michigan Lb, IE Victor Hobson.
Decent bulk, good strength and technique, but lacks elite speed and athleticism. He may end up being a decent situation pass rusher/short yardage type LB, but I dont see him as the super star many others do.
I really like Carriker, but fear he will not be there when we select, as I think he'll have some good workouts to raise his stock.
vilmatic
01-23-2007, 09:29 PM
ThunderbirdJet, I know what you mean about the media coverage, it's terrible, but sad to say, I don't think people like us (I assume you also belong to this category), who would love to break down film of any and every player, are not a very powerful market segment. You may already know this, but I thought you might enjoy this tip regarding print media: having wasted millions of dollars on useless draft guides, I can say with a high degree of certainty that profootballweekly.com puts out the best one out there. Worth the money. Not as great as when joel Bushbaum was running the show, but still by far the best. Anyway, thought I'd share.
Kurt, I thought Woodley was much more one-dimensional than Victor. Hobson surprised me this year with his intelligence, patience, and fundamentals. I haven't really seen that from Woodley. And what's worse, he ALSO does not show great athleticism. Really, comparing him to Hobson is unfair to Hobson, I think.
vilmatic
01-24-2007, 09:57 AM
ESPN's Tuesday Buzz at the Senior Bowl:
Around the South practice
LSU WR Dwayne Bowe should be a first-round pick. The 6-foot-2, 222-pounder has great size and strength. Bowe uses his bulk and muscle to shield defenders from the ball and to battle for position. He misjudged one throw on the last play of practice, but he was practically flawless otherwise. Bowe caught the ball cleanly today and adjusted to make some nice catches on poorly thrown balls throughout the afternoon session. Although the South didn't do red-zone drills today, Bowe is the perfect target for that area of the field. It would be hard to imagine teams needing a wide receiver at the end of the first round -- such as New England, Philadelphia and San Diego -- would pass on a talent like Bowe, who looks like the best senior wideout in this year's draft.
Clemson WR Chansi Stuckey can flat out fly. He will struggle with the physical aspects of his position and certainly will have a hard time with press coverage at the next level, but he will outrun most of the defensive backs he goes against. He has a smooth stride and doesn't take long to get to full speed. Stuckey could be very dangerous on reverses and potentially as a returner.
After battling several lingering injuries during a disappointing senior season, Auburn RB Kenny Irons looks as if he's close to 100 percent. While he lacks ideal size, Irons runs hard and displays excellent vision when picking creases to hit. It will be interesting to see how Irons performs when the intensity level is jacked up a couple notches during Wednesday's all-out practice session.
Florida State ILB Buster Davis continues to disprove the theory that his 5-9 frame will prevent him from playing at the next level. While he's certainly not the player to lead a team off the bus, Davis is one of the toughest and most instinctive linebackers in this year's class. He really stood out in terms of his recognition skills and pursuit angles during inside-run and team drills in today's practice.
One of the best portions of practice today had to be the one-on-one pass blocking drill between the offensive and defensive lines. There were several hard-fought battles, two of which are worth mentioning. First off, Miami DT Kareem Brown powered though Auburn guard Ben Grubbs the first time the two squared off. On the next rep, Grubbs did a far better job of sitting down and preventing Brown from pushing him back into the pocket. The second came later in the drill when Arkansas OT Tony Ugoh got caught too far inside on an attempted block, which made it easy for LSU DE Chase Pittman to turn the corner. The two faced off again right away and initially it looked like the result would be the same. However, Ugoh recovered nicely and eventually put Pittman on the ground. That said, it's worth mentioning that Pittman showed a strong rip move throughout the drill.
Oregon State TE Joe Newton's inadequacies were exposed today at the South's practice. He looked like he didn't belong today as a receiving weapon or as a blocker. He is very tall and very stiff. Newton bends at the waist, gets rag-dolled by the upper echelon defensive ends and linebackers and simply doesn't have the strength or balance to anchor. As a pass catcher, Newton lacks the quickness or pure speed to separate from NFL linebackers. However, he is a better game than practice player who has a feel for getting open and presenting his quarterback with a good target. Newton also catches the football well and is very reliable in this regard.
Georgia's Martrez Milner is another tight end failing to impress NFL scouts in attendance. Milner is a fine athlete and has caught the ball more consistently in practice this week than he did as a senior first-year starter in 2006. However, the 256-pound H-back prospect was consistently overpowered during blocking drills versus linebackers this afternoon. Milner leaves his feet far too frequently in a last-ditch effort to overcompensate for his marginal strength and technique.
Alabama FB Le'Ron McClain was absolutely dominant during one-on-one pass protection drills this afternoon. At one point, he made a mockery of teammate Juwan Simpson by standing up the outside linebacker and driving him to the ground. McClain has also shown soft hands as a receiver, which bodes well for him as one of the top two or three fullback prospects in this year's class.
USC center Ryan Kalil had problems driving defenders of the ball on Monday. His power was far less of an issue today. On one snap during the team drill, Kalil locked onto Mississippi State DT Antonio Johnson's frame and pushed him back three yards. The most impressive aspect of the play was Kalil's ability to generate that kind of movement despite Johnson stopping his initial momentum. It's a testament to Kalil's tenacity and dedication to finishing blocks.
Georgia DE Quentin Moses showed good burst and closing speed during one-on-on drills but was inconsistent against the run. On one snap, he got into position, located the ball carrier and shed the block in time to make the play. On the very next play, he got sealed inside and ridden down the line creating an excellent running lane for the back.
One of the offensive linemen victimized by Moses during one-on-ones was Texas' Justin Blalock, whose future appears to be at guard. Blalock simply couldn't kick out wide enough to get in front of Moses, allowing Moses to turn the corner.
Around the North practice
Rutgers' Brian Leonard is a tweener running back/fullback that clearly wanted to prove his potential as a full-time running back by showing up at a slim 224 pounds this week. Unfortunately, the plan is backfiring so far. While Leonard looks a bit quicker than usual, he still does not display the same burst as Penn State RB Tony Hunt, who now is 15 pounds heavier than Leonard. Another concern has been Leonard's struggles as a blocker -- both on isolation run blocks and in pass protection. Leonard needs to pick up the pace in the final few days of the Senior Bowl in order to prevent his draft stock from slipping.
As for Hunt, he has been the most complete running back on the field -- for either team -- thus far. Hunt lacks ideal elusiveness but he is a big, physical runner with impressive burst through the hole for a bigger back. While he has struggled to catch the ball on a couple of deep throws, Hunt does show reliable hands as a short-to-intermediate route runner, which is how he will be used in the NFL passing game anyway. In a sub-par class of running backs, Hunt is really emerging as a solid first-day prospect.
Northern Illinois RB Garrett Wolfe did not participate in Tuesday morning's practice as a result of a hamstring injury he suffered late in Monday afternoon's practice. Wolfe had shown excellent receiving skills and sure hands as a punt return specialist in the first outing, but it looks like his week in Mobile will be cut short.
Overall, this does not look to be a strong group of wide receivers for the North squad. They lack a "Wow Prospect" or someone who looks like a difference maker at the next level. The North's group of defensive backs is clearly superior and we expect these defenders to get the better of the receivers all week in practice. The most impressive receivers so far have been Notre Dame's Rhema McKnight and Virginia Tech's David Clowney, both of which project as second-to-third round picks in the upcoming draft.
Cal CB Daymeion Hughes continues to stand out in practice. He has good size with wide shoulders and a natural feel for making plays and getting his hands on the football. He is fluid and closes suddenly. His lack of pure speed is a clear drawback however and he will not be able to keep up with the faster receivers in the NFL if left alone deep downfield in man-to-man coverage. Therefore, we think Hughes has the looks of a starting Cover 2 cornerback to best use his skill set -- which is impressive if utilized correctly.
Fresno St. CB Marcus McCauley is struggling. He was out of position on several occasions and flat beaten on others. Ever since the start of his senior season, McCauley's stock has steadily dropped. He simply has not played well and that looks to be carrying over here in Mobile. McCauley has plenty of time to make up for his poor play, but he had better start soon.
The intensity level of the North practice picked up when Boston College OT James Marten and Ohio State DT Quinn Pitcock got into a fight during a double team drill. Neither player backed down and had to be separated. With so much on the line and players playing with so much emotion, fights are going to happen but Pitcock may want to avoid these confrontations. He can't afford to waste any energy because he doesn't appear to be in good shape and could be seen throwing up on the field at times. Marten, on the other hand, looked strong for most of the practice. While speed continues to give him problems during one-on-one drills, his footwork has been fairly sound and he reacted well to a spin move.
Notre Dame OT Ryan Harris is moving well and getting into good position but he isn't driving his legs once engaged with the defender raising concerns about his toughness. During one-on-one drills, 266-pound DE Anthony Spencer put him on his back.
Cal's Brandon Mebane and Louisville's Amobi Okoye aren't doing a great job of holding their ground when they get reached. However, both defensive tackles are showing good quickness and getting into the backfield.
vilmatic
01-24-2007, 09:57 AM
and continued:
Ohio State OG Doug Datish has been relentless and done a good job of driving defenders off the ball but his lack of foot speed is a real concern. He looked like his feet were in quicksand during one-on-one drills and he had some problems getting into position at the second level when asked to slide off a double team. Meanwhile, West Virginia OC Dan Mozes has been impressive. He has been just as tenacious as Datish when run blocking and he held his own during one-on-ones.
Nebraska DE's Jay Moore and Adam Carriker are using their hands very well and making it difficult for the offensive tackles to sustain their blocks. On the flip side, Carriker is getting caught too far upfield and it's created excellent running lanes for the backs as well as the quarterbacks.
ToddtoBarkum
01-24-2007, 10:57 AM
I like Mayock.... probably because he alwys seems to like the same players I do! LOL.
He hust finished talking up Carriker, said opposing coaches had admitted to him that they could not move Carriker at all. They just could not move him, very strong at the point of attack... just what the Jets could use in a 3-4 DE...6-6, 292.
I'm a big Mayock fan. He is always on target and bRings up intelligent points and not the same old crap you hear every day.
If you remember from last year he was all over Leon Washington at the combine.
MSUJet85
01-24-2007, 11:01 AM
Alabama FB Le'Ron McClain was absolutely dominant during one-on-one pass protection drills this afternoon. At one point, he made a mockery of teammate Juwan Simpson by standing up the outside linebacker and driving him to the ground. McClain has also shown soft hands as a receiver, which bodes well for him as one of the top two or three fullback prospects in this year's class.
He intrigues me, anyone know more about this guy?
MobiusOne28
01-24-2007, 12:39 PM
Clemson WR Chansi Stuckey can flat out fly. He will struggle with the physical aspects of his position and certainly will have a hard time with press coverage at the next level, but he will outrun most of the defensive backs he goes against. He has a smooth stride and doesn't take long to get to full speed. Stuckey could be very dangerous on reverses and potentially as a returner.
Is it just me, or would this guy be an excellent compliment to the physical Cotch/Coles combo? Does anyone know where he's projected to go? If we could grab him with a third, I might think about it...
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