Darius Walker

[SonofDinger]

I haven't seen too much of this guy. But what I have seen, I liked.

Since he just declared for the draft, do you guys see him being around #25 for us? Is he worth a first rounder? Where is he projected?

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[hydro51]

Hell no.. walker is avg rb at best in the nfl. he is slow ,lacks power and dances to much.Solid vision,good hands i watched thiis guy for everygame he played in his entire career at nd . he wont be a 1st rd pick. he will be lucky to be a 1st day.

[The Uniform Bomber]

no way.

i think the sleeper will be Kenneth Darby from Alabama. he's like a Curtis Martin clone.



cheers

[Gubernaculum]

He's garbage- at best a 2nd day pick.

Any GM that would waste a 1st round pick on him is either a) a Notre Dame homer or b) insane.

[xjets2002x]

He's garbage- at best a 2nd day pick.

Any GM that would waste a 1st round pick on him is either a) a Notre Dame homer or b) insane.

Well, he's not garbage. He has excellent hands out of the backfield, and he has very good vision and balance. I don't know how athletically gifted he is, but he is a fundamentally sound player and a high character kid. Speed didn't seem to be an issue when he was consistently getting to the corner against an athletically superior LSU team. I would take a shot on him in the third round.

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[Coach K]

no way.

i think the sleeper will be Kenneth Darby from Alabama. he's like a Curtis Martin clone.



cheers

glad you mentioned him Darby is amazing. id take him in the 3rd or 4th

[WW85]

glad you mentioned him Darby is amazing. id take him in the 3rd or 4th


I've liked Kenneth Darby for a long time. He's a high character kid and a good all around back. IMO, he will be a mid to late 2nd rd pick. Darby has had very nagging injuries that probably hurt his stock some.

I'd really like the Jets to look at Lorenzo Booker, in rd 3 or 4. Booker has been injuryed and never developed into the player he is capable of being. Booker had a awesome bowl game, although against a weaker team. I've listen to him speak on several occasions and comes across extremely intelligent. Lorenzo is bigger than Leon, his fellow Fla St friend, and is built like Curtis Martin.

I wouldn't mind a tandem of Leon and Lorenzo in the Jet's Backfield.

[Coach K]

I've liked Kenneth Darby for a long time. He's a high character kid and a good all around back. IMO, he will be a mid to late 2nd rd pick. Darby has had very nagging injuries that probably hurt his stock some.

I'd really like the Jets to look at Lorenzo Booker, in rd 3 or 4. Booker has been injuryed and never developed into the player he is capable of being. Booker had a awesome bowl game, although against a weaker team. I've listen to him speak on several occasions and comes across extremely intelligent. Lorenzo is bigger than Leon, his fellow Fla St friend, and is built like Curtis Martin.

I wouldn't mind a tandem of Leon and Lorenzo in the Jet's Backfield.

lol your wrong about Lorenzo, I hate to say. I live in FL, attend FSU games and watched both their careers. Booker is a bout 6 ft, 190 lbs. hes not a tough runner at all. But that doesnt mean hes not a helluva player.

Id consider him a poor mans Reggie Bush, itd be hard to rightly critique him on anything based on his senior or junior yr cuz FSU's O-line has been horrendous in that time.

After the Combine there will be teams willing to bite on Booker in Rd 2. After he does his position drills and showcases his athleticism, which is outright amazing. But hes not really a tough runner. But he is definitely a big play threat. Expect to see him be a returner his rookie year and a decoy ala Reggie Bush.

He'll prolly go in RD 2 and only way Id even entertain the thought of taking him with our late 2nd rd pick was if we addressed one of these positions via FA. OL/DL/LB

[A.C.E.S]

I think we have our eyes on Lynch at this point. I don't belive in this Walker kid.

[Coach K]

I think we have our eyes on Lynch at this point. I don't belive in this Walker kid.

Lynch is a top 20, only way we get him is through trading up which I dont think hes worth it at that point

[A.C.E.S]

Lynch is a top 20, only way we get him is through trading up which I dont think hes worth it at that point

That sucks, I guess we really do not know what position we're going to takei n the first round yet.

[jetman8094]

Hell no.. walker is avg rb at best in the nfl. he is slow ,lacks power and dances to much.Solid vision,good hands i watched thiis guy for everygame he played in his entire career at nd . he wont be a 1st rd pick. he will be lucky to be a 1st day.

There is no way you can say Walker dances way to much. He is a patient runner who waits for the hole and then hits it full speed. Also if he is so slow why was he able to run sweeps against LSU who is one of the fastest teams in the nation ?

He's garbage- at best a 2nd day pick.

Any GM that would waste a 1st round pick on him is either a) a Notre Dame homer or b) insane.

I am sure that he (Walker) has gauged his value before deciding to come out. There is no way he would give up his senior season to be a second day pick. Walker is the same size as Tiki and has the potential to become a similar back. And don't forget ND runs a pro style offense which will help his value. As will having Charlie's backing.

[dbatesman]

Walker is the same size as Tiki and has the potential to become a similar back. And don't forget ND runs a pro style offense which will help his value. As will having Charlie's backing.

We already have a "guy who maybe, someday might become the next Tiki Barber" in Leon Washington. We need a grinder to wear defenses down.

[hydro51]

There is no way you can say Walker dances way to much. He is a patient runner who waits for the hole and then hits it full speed. Also if he is so slow why was he able to run sweeps against LSU who is one of the fastest teams in the nation ?

Lol yea draft walker because he had some success vs LSU.. If your telling me walker is fast than you must not have seen him play much.there is a reason his career longest run is 40 yards. thats terrible for a fulltime ncaa runningback.

[WW85]

lol your wrong about Lorenzo, I hate to say. I live in FL, attend FSU games and watched both their careers. Booker is a bout 6 ft, 190 lbs. hes not a tough runner at all. But that doesnt mean hes not a helluva player.

Id consider him a poor mans Reggie Bush, itd be hard to rightly critique him on anything based on his senior or junior yr cuz FSU's O-line has been horrendous in that time.

After the Combine there will be teams willing to bite on Booker in Rd 2. After he does his position drills and showcases his athleticism, which is outright amazing. But hes not really a tough runner. But he is definitely a big play threat. Expect to see him be a returner his rookie year and a decoy ala Reggie Bush.

He'll prolly go in RD 2 and only way Id even entertain the thought of taking him with our late 2nd rd pick was if we addressed one of these positions via FA. OL/DL/LB

How am I'm wrong about Booker? He's bigger than Leon, which I stated, and similar in size to Curtis Martin, just a little lighter and slightly taller. I still believe Booker will be a Rd 3 prospect, too many concerns about durability....and there are quite a few Rbs that will go ahead of him.

[The Uniform Bomber]

glad you mentioned him Darby is amazing. id take him in the 3rd or 4th

i really don't see Darby lasting until the 4th -- I don't even think he'll last til our 3rd; but if he's there with our 3rd, we should take him. he's a grinder with excellent vision and he's shifty. he won't break a lot of long runs; therefore he's not a threat to go the distance, but that's what Washington is for.

in that other thread, Tannenbaum mentioned they really like the dual RB operation, so it makes sense to bring in a guy like Darby who can wear Defenses down. his injury history is a bit of a concern, but i don't know what type of injuries they were and what their likelihood of reoccuring is. anyone who's got info on that, please post.



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[DonnieBaseball23]

Yeah, he should be around in the 4th round.

[jetman8094]

Lol yea draft walker because he had some success vs LSU.. If your telling me walker is fast than you must not have seen him play much.there is a reason his career longest run is 40 yards. thats terrible for a fulltime ncaa runningback.


I said "There is no way you can say Walker dances way to much. He is a patient runner who waits for the hole and then hits it full speed. Also if he is so slow why was he able to run sweeps against LSU who is one of the fastest teams in the nation ?" When did I say to draft Walker ? All I said is I don't believe he is that slow. He may not have a great "top gear" but he get up to full speed quickly. Also ND was not a team that pounded the ball. Curtis hardly ever broke big runs. Does that mean he was a below average back?

[Coach K]

How am I'm wrong about Booker? He's bigger than Leon, which I stated, and similar in size to Curtis Martin, just a little lighter and slightly taller. I still believe Booker will be a Rd 3 prospect, too many concerns about durability....and there are quite a few Rbs that will go ahead of him.

your wrong about him because hes not bigger than booker, hes taller. thats it. the fact leon manages to outweigh him by about 10-15 lbs while being 5 inches taller means alot.

booker has a WR build im just telling you. and martin has him by 20 lbs, thats alot.

thats why i said your wrong lol. not trying to be an asshole but i watched the guys whole career.

[pakijet]

I think we should get the best rb in the draft....bush,lynch, peterson, and irons are on my list

[hydro51]

I said "There is no way you can say Walker dances way to much. He is a patient runner who waits for the hole and then hits it full speed. Also if he is so slow why was he able to run sweeps against LSU who is one of the fastest teams in the nation ?" When did I say to draft Walker ? All I said is I don't believe he is that slow. He may not have a great "top gear" but he get up to full speed quickly. Also ND was not a team that pounded the ball. Curtis hardly ever broke big runs. Does that mean he was a below average back?
now ur comparing curtis to darius? :rofl: but anyway curtis has broke big runs throughout his career walker hasnt. look man like i said i have watched every game walker has played in a ND. he is not a explosive back he is not a powerful back. in fact walker falls on the 1st hit almost always. this is my opinion if u wanna think as walker as some kind of superstar prospect thats on u.

[BakerMaker]

Before you guys bash Walker or what not I want you to keep this in mind despite me being an ND fan.

Walker worked with one of the poorer O-Lines in college in his 3 year stint and his last year was his worst as the line got worse and worse year after year.

With this said, I dont think Walker would be the right RB for the Jets but I would be happy to get him. He has somewhat of a burst and is a pretty good reciveing RB. He is alright with blocking but can get better. Could gun as a late day 1 pick with a nice combine.

But I question the move of Walker going pro considering the RBs in this draft. It would have been better to return for one more year and build up the stock. I think Weis would have let Walker carry the offense since Claussen whos going to replace Quinn is going to be raw in the NCAA level.

[hydro51]

Before you guys bash Walker or what not I want you to keep this in mind despite me being an ND fan.

Walker worked with one of the poorer O-Lines in college in his 3 year stint and his last year was his worst as the line got worse and worse year after year.

With this said, I dont think Walker would be the right RB for the Jets but I would be happy to get him. He has somewhat of a burst and is a pretty good reciveing RB.He is alright with blocking but can get better. Could gun as a late day 1 pick with a nice combine .

But I question the move of Walker going pro considering the RBs in this draft. It would have been better to return for one more year and build up the stock. I think Weis would have let Walker carry the offense since Claussen whos going to replace Quinn is going to be raw in the NCAA level.

Now theres someone who seen walker play.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Stay far far away from ND players. Much like the team anyone that plays on the team is talked up by leprechaun lovers across the country to ridiculous, overrated heights..

[BakerMaker]

Stay far far away from ND players. Much like the team anyone that plays on the team is talked up by leprechaun lovers across the country to ridiculous, overrated heights..
Not true....I dont know if you dislike Brady Quinn but hes going be solid in the NFL.

I dont see the same for Walker but Quinn is very sound and was once overHYPED, not overrated. But he isnt anymore.

[Yisman]

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[jetman8094]

now ur comparing curtis to darius? but anyway curtis has broke big runs throughout his career walker hasnt. look man like i said i have watched every game walker has played in a ND. he is not a explosive back he is not a powerful back. in fact walker falls on the 1st hit almost always. this is my opinion if u wanna think as walker as some kind of superstar prospect thats on u.

All I am saying is Curtis was more of a yards per carry back as is Walker. Walker averaged 4.2, 4.7 and 5.0 yards per carry at ND, getting better each year. He was on pace to be ND all time leading rusher which says something about his talent I think. I am not calling Walker a superstar back all I am saying is your not giving the man his due credit.

[WW85]

your wrong about him because hes not bigger than booker, hes taller. thats it. the fact leon manages to outweigh him by about 10-15 lbs while being 5 inches taller means alot.

booker has a WR build im just telling you. and martin has him by 20 lbs, thats alot.

thats why i said your wrong lol. not trying to be an asshole but i watched the guys whole career.

You need to check your facts!!! Leon is 5'8" about 200lb........Booker is 5'11" just like Martin. Booker is weighing in about 195, Martin is about 205 to 210 and 10 years older. Booker will be similar in size in his NFL Career. Martin was built just like Booker at Pitt.

I watch College Player's and seen Booker & Washington. The number's above are accurate and Booker would be a perfect compliment to our Backfield.

I think your trying to pick nits, come over to the GGI's draftboard and share your comments anytime, I'm there often. We can agree to disagree.

[FreemanMcNeil24]

i'd rather have someone else

[EcKo151]

You need to check your facts!!! Leon is 5'8" about 200lb........Booker is 5'11" just like Martin. Booker is weighing in about 195, Martin is about 205 to 210 and 10 years older. Booker will be similar in size in his NFL Career. Martin was built just like Booker at Pitt.

I watch College Player's and seen Booker & Washington. The number's above are accurate and Booker would be a perfect compliment to our Backfield.
Lorenzo Booker is like Michael Pittman without the size. Booker dances way too much and never hits the hole hard, he constantly tries to dance and has happy-feet, it's annoying, he had a bad year this past season and to me he is nothing more than a kick returner in this league.

[Dinobot 2]

Hell no.. walker is avg rb at best in the nfl. he is slow ,lacks power and dances to much.Solid vision,good hands i watched thiis guy for everygame he played in his entire career at nd . he wont be a 1st rd pick. he will be lucky to be a 1st day.

Average? Hahaha, no way. For someone who watched him in every game I'm surprised you would say that. You are right about him dancing around too much. Sometimes he's too patient looking for a run. That can also be a good thing though too. Besides he's a young guy. He's no Bush of the draft but this guy is someone who could use and I'd say we actually have a good shot at going for him. The guy in no way lacks power. I don't know where your getting that from. He probably won't be drafted in the first round but he'll go in the second round for sure. Lucky to be a 1st day?! You really are under estimating him. I think this guy is actually just what we need. Him and Washington could be a mirror pair of Julius Jones and Marion Barber in Dallas.

[Dinobot 2]

Stay far far away from ND players. Much like the team anyone that plays on the team is talked up by leprechaun lovers across the country to ridiculous, overrated heights..

^ Ridiculous hater. Makes me want to draft any ND player just to piss on 3rds face.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

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[Dinobot 2]

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Just wake up 3rd? That was your weakest attempt Iv'e ever seen. If you were a Fins poster with 9 posts it be easy to call you a topic derailing troll. Go get some coffee nancy.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Just wake up 3rd? That was your weakest attempt Iv'e ever seen. If you were a Fins poster with 9 posts it be easy to call you a topic derailing troll. Go get some coffee nancy.

says the guy that wants to piss on my face

[tanknyc]

i think darius walker is a quality back i watched the bowl game and he has deceptive speed. when he hit the corner he took off and left alot of players behind in the dust for like forty yard gain. and i think lsu is in the sec conference there arent many slow defenses in that conference. when curtis martin came out of pitt and came to the league many people said he was slow and would never make it the league. there are three types of speed in football either your quick(able to accelerate in short distance fast) or your fast(once you get up to speed your gone) and theres game speed(when your in the game people be like dang i didnt know he was that fast.) so i think thas the type of player he is

[jetman8094]

Average? Hahaha, no way. For someone who watched him in every game I'm surprised you would say that. You are right about him dancing around too much. Sometimes he's too patient looking for a run. That can also be a good thing though too. Besides he's a young guy. He's no Bush of the draft but this guy is someone who could use and I'd say we actually have a good shot at going for him. The guy in no way lacks power. I don't know where your getting that from. He probably won't be drafted in the first round but he'll go in the second round for sure. Lucky to be a 1st day?! You really are under estimating him. I think this guy is actually just what we need. Him and Washington could be a mirror pair of Julius Jones and Marion Barber in Dallas.

Thank you this is the point I've been trying to get across.

[tanknyc]

we might try to get him in the later rounds

[Dinobot 2]

Thank you this is the point I've been trying to get across.

Well... You aren't so bad then afterall.....

[C.K.]

I'm a pretty big fan of drafting runners from the SEC myself. It's the fastest league out there that's not the National Football League as the guys are playing against good caliber defenses week in and week out. I would take a look at Ken Darby and Kenny Irons if I were the Jets with the second of their two second round picks.

[tanknyc]

you have sec, acc, pac 10 all have speedy running backs