View Full Version : Sox aquire Javy Lopez
GreenMachine
08-03-2006, 07:16 PM
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Looking for help at catcher following the injury to captain Jason Varitek, the Red Sox have acquired veteran Javy Lopez from the Baltimore Orioles, ESPN Radio 890 in Boston reported
Interesting pickup. Maybe it'll pan out for them. How long is Varitek out? 4-6 weeks is what I heard.
Murrell2878
08-03-2006, 08:01 PM
can someone explain to me how a trade can happen after the trading deadline? I've been confused about this for the last few years
devilonthetownhallroof
08-03-2006, 08:09 PM
A player can still be traded after the deadline as long as they clear waivers first.
ButtleMan
08-03-2006, 08:11 PM
can someone explain to me how a trade can happen after the trading deadline? I've been confused about this for the last few years
You can still trade in your own league. What happens first is the player has to be exposed on the waiver wire.
Any team can claim him. If no one claims the player then you can make the trade.
If a team does claim him then either the first team pulls him off waivers or they allow the claiming team to keep him.
The last scenario is how the Yankees got stuck with Canseco in 99. They were trying to block him from going to a competetor.
illmatic
08-03-2006, 08:21 PM
You can still trade in your own league. What happens first is the player has to be exposed on the waiver wire.
Any team can claim him. If no one claims the player then you can make the trade.
If a team does claim him then either the first team pulls him off waivers or they allow the claiming team to keep him.
The last scenario is how the Yankees got stuck with Canseco in 99. They were trying to block him from going to a competetor.
I thought the league part was irrelevant??? so long as the player pass through waivers he was free to all
TurkJetFan
08-03-2006, 09:39 PM
well woodward is proving to be just about useless right about now
edit: sorry wrong thread
PinPointPenning10
08-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Every team in the MLB should just make a deal with each other not to claim anyone on waivers, so then they get an extra month to make deals.
As for this pickup, Lopez is a really good short-term fix for them, but they're getting stuck with a pretty big contract, no?
devilonthetownhallroof
08-03-2006, 10:24 PM
It's not that bad.
The Orioles, who will get a mid-level prospect in return, are expected to include a little over $1 million to the Red Sox to help offset Lopez's remaining salary. The 35-year-old, who cleared waivers Thursday, still has $2.75 million remaining on the three-year, $22.5 million contract he signed with the Orioles before the 2004 season.
PinPointPenning10
08-03-2006, 10:28 PM
It's not that bad.
You're right, I didn't realize he was in the last year of it already.
Sundayjack
08-03-2006, 10:32 PM
It's not that bad.
It's not great, either.
I guess I'm still steamed about the Mirabelli/Bard/Loretta nonsense, where the Sox could have been so far on the plus side of that series of deals it would have been near embarassing. Instead, it's all a wash, and we end up giving mid-level talent for two months of work. That drives me nuts.
DonnieIsTheKing
08-03-2006, 10:59 PM
Well regardless of the contract, they're a big market and if they want to beat the Yankees they have to eat it.
Javy is as good of a quick fix as you're going to find... a solid veteran hitter who should play decently until Varitek is ready again. Atleast the Sox don't have to play Doug Mirabelli everyday...
nyjunc
08-04-2006, 08:34 AM
You can still trade in your own league. What happens first is the player has to be exposed on the waiver wire.
Any team can claim him. If no one claims the player then you can make the trade.
If a team does claim him then either the first team pulls him off waivers or they allow the claiming team to keep him.
The last scenario is how the Yankees got stuck with Canseco in 99. They were trying to block him from going to a competetor.
Canseco was '00.
The Sox desperately needed another C, Lopez has been deteriorating for years now but jumping back in a pennant race could jolt him and he could be a good player for them.
Boss Revis
08-04-2006, 09:10 AM
It's not great, either.
I guess I'm still steamed about the Mirabelli/Bard/Loretta nonsense, where the Sox could have been so far on the plus side of that series of deals it would have been near embarassing. Instead, it's all a wash, and we end up giving mid-level talent for two months of work. That drives me nuts.
What deals? how?
Sundayjack
08-04-2006, 09:40 AM
What deals? how?
The Red Sox traded Doug Mirabelli for Mark Loretta over the winter. Straight up.
Then, after Josh Bard had a few multiple pass-ball games catching Tim Wakefield, the Sox hurried to make a deal to reaquire Mirabelli. They traded Bard, minor league pitcher Cla Meredith, and cash to REacquire a .185 hitter to catch one pitcher every fifth start.
Now, we're trading more mid-level talent, all because we can't live with sub-.200 and a AAAA players as our starting and backup catchers.
Stooopid. We spent the last few years rebuilding the farm system just so that we could trade it all away for NONimpact players.
And I won't even get started about how we acquired Bard - when Theo was fleeced by Cleveland for Andy Marte AND Kelly Shoppach in the Coco Crisp deal. Or, rather, maybe I will.
Theo's had a bad year.
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