the 1 point per reception rule

[Jetsman5137]

im the league owner and im debating whether allowing a 1 point per reception rule. Doesn anyone else play that rule? Does it make recievers better fantasy players then theyre supposed to be?

[nyjetsrule]

i always liked that rule because it gives those Possesion guys a fantasy value... now guys like Terry Glenn And Keyshawn Johnson have little to no worth, but throw in the point per reception rule, and low and behold, they still get you five six points a game for the 5 grab 38 yard games. While Steve Smith goes and gets you 18 points per game for the 6 grabs, 85-90 yards and 1 maybe 2 td's. So it enhances the WR's value, and it does make the elite more valuable, but when you hit the middle crowd, there isn't as big a need, to search for that sleeper who could hit 6 td's this year at the # 2 WR spot...

[GreyhoundJet]

I was the commish for my league last year and I put this rule in. I liked it just because it was another way for receivers to gain points. I had Rod Smith and it made him very valuable. I would do it.

[Rambo13]

i always liked that rule because it gives those Possesion guys a fantasy value... now guys like Terry Glenn And Keyshawn Johnson have little to no worth, but throw in the point per reception rule, and low and behold, they still get you five six points a game for the 5 grab 38 yard games. While Steve Smith goes and gets you 18 points per game for the 6 grabs, 85-90 yards and 1 maybe 2 td's. So it enhances the WR's value, and it does make the elite more valuable, but when you hit the middle crowd, there isn't as big a need, to search for that sleeper who could hit 6 td's this year at the # 2 WR spot...


Plus it levels the RB playig field. Now Brian Westbrook and Domanick Davis become upper echelon picks. I mean add in an extra 60-70 points over someone like Shaun Alexander who doesn't catch the ball and it gives a little extra depth.

I like playing with that rule.

[Smizzy]

Plus it levels the RB playig field. Now Brian Westbrook and Domanick Davis become upper echelon picks. I mean add in an extra 60-70 points over someone like Shaun Alexander who doesn't catch the ball and it gives a little extra depth.

I like playing with that rule.


This is my favorite part of PPR. It changes the RB lanscape completely. I love it.

[inSANITy]

do u guys play with every carry is a pt too?

[Rambo13]

do u guys play with every carry is a pt too?

No that would be absurd. A good fantasy player scores 300 points. That could be eclipsed by just the carries of a running back. Then throw in the yards and TDs and the RBs would be even more overvalued then they already are.

[Jetsman5137]

do u guys play with every carry is a pt too?
thats how i feel the 1 pt per reception rule can be, WR's are supposed to catch the ball. i think its a little much for example, that a wr has 7 receptions for like 30 yards and ends up getting 10 points for that. Granted a reception is much harder to do than taking the handoff, but unless they drop a deep pass, its almost expected that wide reciever catches every ball thats "catchable." Its kinda like giving the quarterback a point per completion. Its such an easy thing to do, it shouldnt be rewarded.

[Jetsman5137]

I set it to every 5 receptions earns a 1 point. I think this will benefit wide recievers more since runningbacks dont really have 5 receptions per game. Also 1 point doesnt tip the scale so much for wide recievers, but gives them alittle bit more to earn points.

[ButtleMan]

I used to use 1 pt for every 2 receptions in my old league. I think not giving WR's any points for receptions severly undervalues them.

[Cakes]

I am playing in year 3 of a keeper league. The commish tried to cut down on the overvaluation of RBs.
This is the third year for me in the league (I'm a charter member) and I made it to the title game last year, but I don't even know if WRs get any points for catching passes.
I'll go look at the settings now and post them here.

[Cakes]

Setting Value
League ID#: 11187
League Name: Annual Pigskin Showdown
Password: football
Draft Type: Offline Draft
Draft Time: Thu Jun 29 5:37pm EDT
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2
Trade End Date: December 1, 2006
Trade Review: League Votes
Waiver Time: 2 days
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Playoffs: Week 14, 15 and 16 (6 teams)
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, RB, TE, W/R, K, DEF, D, D, D, D, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: Completions (.25)
Passing Yards (30 yards per point; 1 points at 30 yards)
Passing Touchdowns (7)
Interceptions (-2.5)
Sacks (-2)
Rushing Attempts (.25)
Rushing Yards (30 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (5)
Receptions (.5)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (7)
Return Yards (10 yards per point)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-3)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (4)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (5)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (6)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (8)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-2)
Point After Attempt Made (2.5)
Point After Attempt Missed (-3)
Points Allowed 0 points (24)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (19)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (11)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (7)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-5)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-15)
Tackle Solo (1.5)
Tackle Assist (1)
Sack (7)
Interception (9)
Fumble Force (4)
Fumble Recovery (4)
Touchdown (7)
Safety (6)
Pass Defended (3)
Fractional Points: Yes
Negative Points: Yes

[Cakes]

The top players of 2005 under those settings:

Player Action Opp Owner Projected Actual Comp Yds TD Int Sack Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Yds 2PT Lost Fan Pts
C. Palmer
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P. Manning
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T. Brady
(NE - QB) Buf Tampa Wallpaper 31 7 334 4110 26 14 26 27 89 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 337.22
S. Smith
(Car - WR) Atl GameOver 9 11 0 0 0 0 0 4 25 1 103 1563 12 347 0 1 333.33
L. Tomlinson
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M. Hasselbeck
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S. Alexander
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T. Barber
(NYG - RB) Ind theShow 5 6 0 0 0 0 0 357 1860 9 54 530 2 0 1 1 296.75
E. Manning
(NYG - QB) Ind THREE BLIND HOES 35 10 294 3762 24 17 28 29 80 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 295.32
D. Brees
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L. Johnson
(KC - RB) Cin theShow 2 4 0 0 0 0 0 336 1750 20 33 343 1 0 0 4 291.13
J. Plummer
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L. Fitzgerald
(Ari - WR) SF Bolt Action 12 22 0 0 0 0 0 8 41 0 103 1409 10 0 0 0 267.27
E. James
(Ari - RB) SF impact players 7 8 0 0 0 0 0 360 1506 13 44 337 1 0 0 1 266.40
D. Hall
(KC - WR) Cin GameOver 1351 213 0 0 0 0 0 7 11 0 34 436 3 1836 0 2 265.82
M. Brunell
(Was - QB) Min GameOver 114 18 262 3050 23 10 27 42 111 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 264.87
J. Delhomme
(Car - QB) Atl impact players 71 14 262 3421 24 16 28 24 31 1 0 0 0 0 0 6 264.57
T. Green
(KC - QB) Cin Idiotic Imbeciles 67 25 317 4014 17 10 32 35 82 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 262.03
C. Johnson
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Sa. Moss
(Was - WR) Min GameOver 32 27 0 0 0 0 0 3 -3 0 84 1483 9 40 0 1 256.45
L. Jordan
(Oak - RB) SD Tampa Wallpaper 10 20 0 0 0 0 0 272 1025 9 70 563 2 0 1 1 254.47
B. Favre
(GB - QB) Chi theShow 87 49 372 3881 20 29 24 18 62 0 0 0 0 0 2 7 250.43
A. Boldin
(Ari - WR) SF Alabama Crackers 18 39 0 0 0 0 0 12 45 0 102 1402 7 0 1 1 249.70
K. Collins
(Oak - QB) SD FA 228 19 302 3759 20 12 39 17 39 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 247.85
T. Holt
(StL - WR) Den theShow 15 33 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 102 1331 9 0 0 1 247.42

[Cakes]

7 wide receivers
6 running backs
12 quarterbacks

[ButtleMan]

1/2 a point per reception is pretty good. I dont really like the 1/4 point per carry since 20 carries = 5 additional points but I have seen worse.
Passing td's 7 points???
Peyton Manning is the best player in your league.

[ButtleMan]

I just noticed 7 points for a sack and 9 for a int. That totally overvalues the defense.

[Cakes]

1/2 a point per reception is pretty good. I dont really like the 1/4 point per carry since 20 carries = 5 additional points but I have seen worse.
Passing td's 7 points???
Peyton Manning is the best player in your league.

Yeah, the league voted to change passing TDs from 6 to 7 points. (I actually retired at the end of last season, but got talked back into the league last month. It may be my only fantasy football league this season. I'm much more into the Pick 'Em leagues, as picking games is much more challenging.)

When I ran leagues passing TDs were worth 3 points.

[Cakes]

I just noticed 7 points for a sack and 9 for a int. That totally overvalues the defense.

Hey, I don't like it either. But, the league consists of active coaches/managers. So, I can live with it.

[Cakes]

Before I only posted offensive players. Here are the top defensive players in that league for 2005.


Player Action Opp Owner Projected Actual Tack
Solo Tack
Ast Sack Safe Int Fum
Force Fum
Rec TD Pass
Def Fan Pts
T. McGee
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Do. Edwards
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J. Vilma
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M. Peterson
(Jac - DL) Dal theShow 1260 911 95 37 6.0 0 3 2 1 1 6 285.50
K. Bulluck
(Ten - DL) NYJ theShow 1163 1297 102 36 5.0 0 2 1 1 0 10 280.00
L. Fletcher
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Z. Thomas
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A. Thomas
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R. Barber
(TB - DB) Bal THREE BLIND HOES 492 419 83 16 2.0 0 5 0 1 0 20 263.50
C. Tillman
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A. Wilson
(Ari - DB) SF Bolt Action 440 417 93 16 8.0 0 1 1 2 0 9 259.50
B. Dawkins
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C. Bailey
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K. Brooking
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O. Thurman
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J. Taylor
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D. O'Neal
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P. Jones
(Ten - DB) NYJ theShow 256 222 44 9 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 11 245.90
L. Tatupu
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M. Vrabel
(NE - DL) Buf California Dreamin 235 170 73 35 4.5 0 2 1 0 1 5 242.90
De. Williams
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C. Gamble
(Car - DB) Atl Alabama Crackers 409 550 66 10 0.0 0 7 1 1 1 12 238.80
D. Brooks
(TB - DL) Bal High RollaZ 1107 960 93 32 3.0 0 1 1 0 0 11 238.50
L. Briggs
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M. Washington
(Was - DL) Min Tampa Wallpaper 1080 813 74 20 7.5 0 1 3 2 0 8 236.50

[Cakes]

I actually don't have a problem with defensive players being worth as much as offensive players.
It goes against traditional fantasy football, but it does represent real football a tad more.

[Rambo13]

Holy jesus with the posts Cakes.

I don't get why people don't use standard NFL point systems: 6 points for a TD no matter who or how it is scored.

2 points for ints, sacks and fumble recoveries

[Rambo13]

thats how i feel the 1 pt per reception rule can be, WR's are supposed to catch the ball. i think its a little much for example, that a wr has 7 receptions for like 30 yards and ends up getting 10 points for that. Granted a reception is much harder to do than taking the handoff, but unless they drop a deep pass, its almost expected that wide reciever catches every ball thats "catchable." Its kinda like giving the quarterback a point per completion. Its such an easy thing to do, it shouldnt be rewarded.

I think you are way off base.

First of all, who has 7 catches for 30 yards?
Second, tons of RBs are in the upper rankings of the league in terms of receptions (LT had 100 a couple years ago) so it adds value to both positions. All it is doing is leveling the RB playing field where Shaun Alexander can be the #1 player even though he is one of the most one dimensional players in the league running always to the left and never catching a ball and LaDainian Tomlinson can get 1500 yards and 100 catches.
Third, I think a reasonable catch amount is an average of 5 per game (90 per year) that isn't going to pump up the WR performance that much seeing as most average about 10 points compared to the RBs that average 20.

[Cakes]

Holy jesus with the posts Cakes.

I don't get why people don't use standard NFL point systems: 6 points for a TD no matter who or how it is scored.

2 points for ints, sacks and fumble recoveries

I just post. I don't care if I write seven posts in a row. Sometimes I consolidate, other times I don't. If it's a big problem a mod can ban me.


When I ran leagues, I'd award 6 points to the player who scored the TD.

If it was a receiving touchdown, the passer would get 3 points.

[ButtleMan]

I just post. I don't care if I write seven posts in a row. Sometimes I consolidate, other times I don't. If it's a big problem a mod can ban me.


When I ran leagues, I'd award 6 points to the player who scored the TD.

If it was a receiving touchdown, the passer would get 3 points.
I always went with 6 for a td regardless. I felt that the QB was just as responsible for the TD as the receiver.

[Jetfanmack]

Well, it depends. As long as everyone knows the rules, any league can be fun. I like leagues where every play can be a couple points. My friend's league really has a terrible points system, but it's so much fun because every play means a ton. I don't have the exact scoring system, but...

All TDs: 10 points.
INTs: -5
Sacks: -3
Completions: 1
Incompletions: -1
Rushing, receiving, return yards: 10 per pt
Passing yards: 20 per pt
Receptions: 1 per pt

I hate the return yards being 10 per pt, but that's my only real problem with it. QBs can have absolutely ridiculous days, but they can also get negative points on a fairly regular basis. Defenses were also penalized harshly for allowing 35 or more points.

I liked it because every time I would watch Sunday Ticket and watch one of my 2 QBs go back to pass, I knew it would be at least a point if he got a completion or he would lose points if it was incomplete.

[ButtleMan]

Well, it depends. As long as everyone knows the rules, any league can be fun. I like leagues where every play can be a couple points. My friend's league really has a terrible points system, but it's so much fun because every play means a ton. I don't have the exact scoring system, but...

All TDs: 10 points.
INTs: -5
Sacks: -3
Completions: 1
Incompletions: -1
Rushing, receiving, return yards: 10 per pt
Passing yards: 20 per pt
Receptions: 1 per pt

I hate the return yards being 10 per pt, but that's my only real problem with it. QBs can have absolutely ridiculous days, but they can also get negative points on a fairly regular basis. Defenses were also penalized harshly for allowing 35 or more points.

I liked it because every time I would watch Sunday Ticket and watch one of my 2 QBs go back to pass, I knew it would be at least a point if he got a completion or he would lose points if it was incomplete.

I had points for completions as well. I believe it was 1 point for every 3 comps.
We also didnt include int's, it was just points for positive occurances

[Rambo13]

I just post. I don't care if I write seven posts in a row. Sometimes I consolidate, other times I don't. If it's a big problem a mod can ban me.


When I ran leagues, I'd award 6 points to the player who scored the TD.

If it was a receiving touchdown, the passer would get 3 points.

I don't really care about the volume personally because I know you are a quality poster and not just whoring around but those charts are unreadable and I don't think anyone was beating down the door to learn the scoring system of one of your past leagues. :up: :drunk: