A-Rod Congrats.

[JETSFAN5180]

ARod Youngest Player to Reach 450 HRs

ANOTHER GREAT YANKEE PLAYER

Updated 8:30 PM ET July 21, 2006


TORONTO (AP) - New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez became the youngest player to reach 450 home runs when he hit one Friday night against the Toronto Blue Jays.

The three-run homer in the third inning off A.J. Burnett was also Rodriguez's 2000th hit.

Rodriguez, who turns 31 next Thursday, is the eighth player to get his 2000th hit before his 31st birthday.

The milestones come at a time when Rodriguez has struggled. He committed his team-leading 17th error in Thursday's loss to Toronto.

Ken Griffey Jr. was the previous youngest to reach 450. He was 31 years, 261 days old when he did it August 9, 2001

[typeOnegative13NY]

yeah well...fuck him

[Barry the Baptist]

yeah well...fuck him


Ha, that is pretty funny. I guees he might not be this great Yankee afterall

[JETSFAN5180]

And the Mets have a player who is equal to A-Rod? David Wright is not even close 1 year does not make a career.

[Learn To Swim]

Good for him. If he can avoid a Griffey like string of injuries or turning into a recluse because of pyschological abuse he'll make a run at Aaron.

[JETSFAN5180]

Yes he will.450 hrs and hes only 31.He needs to do it in pinstripes in the house RUTH built!

[Jonathan_Vilma]

And rounds that out with another error costing a run tonight.

[JETSFAN5180]

And rounds that out with another error costing a run tonight.

STOP He just started with the throwing errors its not like he does it all the time.

[Royal Tee]

I have no Problem w/ A-Rod.

You don't hear about steroids, Wife Beatings, Shootouts in Clubs, Slapping reporters .
Let alone, you never hear of team mates having problems w/ Him.
This guy is a Model Player and Citizen.

And he is a Phenominal Baseball player. Amazing that we have a guy like him, sad that we have fans who can't appreciate it.

[Learn To Swim]

He doesn't slap his wife or reporters, but Bronson Arroyo better watch his back.

[typeOnegative13NY]

Ha, that is pretty funny. I guees he might not be this great Yankee afterall
A rod imo,is a great ball player,but he is not a great Yankee..yet. I won't count him out yet,and I like him and hope he comes around. But the guy is pissing me off this year. I do think though,if the home crowd would get behind him rather than buying a ticket just to look for reasons to boo the guy,he jjst might come around

[JETSFAN5180]

New York fans are doing what New York fans do best.They love you when all is well and want you dead when its not.A-Rod will be fine and the boos will stop.

[kinghenry89]

Normally I'd agree with you but I don't think that it's gonna play out like that with Rodriguez. I for some reason get the feeling that A-Rod is going to be maligned by many until the day he retires, if only because he makes a ton of money and sometimes makes bad plays. It's the Alexei Yashin syndrome (though Yashin deserves much more of the criticism that he gets.)

Some of the insults about A-Rod, like ripping him (a first generation American) for wanting to play for the DR in the World Baseball Classic while not caring that Barry Zito and Mike Piazza were playing for Italy despite having families that are far removed from that country, will not go away with a championship. A lot of people just plain hate the guy.

[FITM]

New York fans are doing what New York fans do best.They love you when all is well and want you dead when its not.A-Rod will be fine and the boos will stop.

He's been given the Beltran treatment. A-Rod can't carry the team by himself, he needs Matsui or Sheff to bat behind him so he can see more pitches. Posada doesn't exactly scare a pitching staff.

A-Rod just will never be accepted if he doesn't bring a ring to NY.

[JETSFAN5180]

A-Rod just will never be accepted if he doesn't bring a ring to NY.

This i agree with 100%.

[ButtleMan]

When Arod hits his 500th HR at Yankee Stadium everyone better get off their asses and cheer him and stick those boos up their asses.

[typeOnegative13NY]

I guess there could be plenty of reasons for people to dislike him. But the met and Sox fans dislike him really because at the time we got him,they were players in the trade possibility also. They didn't gey him so they are bitter.

[Cakes]

I guess there could be plenty of reasons for people to dislike him. But the met and Sox fans dislike him really because at the time we got him,they were players in the trade possibility also. They didn't gey him so they are bitter.


Well, that doesn't apply to me.

Some Yankees fans don't like him because they hated having to admit for years that 2 wasn't the best shortstop in his own league. Then Rod was being talked about going to the Mets before 2000. Years later he was almost traded to Boston. So, Yankees fans hated him even more. Then all of a sudden he got traded to the Yankees, so it confused the Yankee fan.

[Learn To Swim]

FITM hit the nail on the head by calling it the "Beltran" treatment, and it brings up the huge difference between the 2 players.

Beltran got ripped, he didn't like it, but he kept his mouth shut and played hard everyday.
A-Rod keeps trying to be everyones the best friend, trying to be a media darling and trying to explain himself and he just makes himself look more awkward and easier to criticize.

[Cakes]

Rod should go to St. Louis where the fans will not get on his case.

[10nyjets87]

Alright A-rods hitting is not the issue. It is his glove that everyone is after him about. I just look at this situation like when we had jeter struggling with the bat. It is the same thing except A-rod with the glove and jeter with the bat. They were both pressing to make the big play. He will snap out of it.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

A-Fraud(get it?) gets his 2,000th hit and 450th HR in a Yankees LOSS. Coincindence? I think not.

[ButtleMan]

Alright A-rods hitting is not the issue. It is his glove that everyone is after him about. I just look at this situation like when we had jeter struggling with the bat. It is the same thing except A-rod with the glove and jeter with the bat. They were both pressing to make the big play. He will snap out of it.


Bullshit. Everything started when the media began the non-clutch/false numbers at the plate bullshit and Yankee fans bit hard.

[JETSFAN5180]

A-Fraud(get it?) gets his 2,000th hit and 450th HR in a Yankees LOSS. Coincindence? I think not.


A-Fraud????????????? Give me a break.He is the most scrutinized player in the game.The guy comes to play every game.

[ButtleMan]

A-Fraud(get it?) gets his 2,000th hit and 450th HR in a Yankees LOSS. Coincindence? I think not.

Yep, another case of him doing it when it doesnt matter.
Of course, Jaret Wright giving up 4 runs in first has nothing to do with it because Arod was only able to hit a 3 run homer to make it 4-3 instead of hitting a 9-run HR to put the game away.

[JETSFAN5180]

A-Rod haters think every loss is his fault. The guy is all thats right with baseball.Not to mention a great role model to kids.

[Murrell2878]

is this a joke???

[JETSFAN5180]

is this a joke???


Is what a joke?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Yep, another case of him doing it when it doesnt matter.
Of course, Jaret Wright giving up 4 runs in first has nothing to do with it because Arod was only able to hit a 3 run homer to make it 4-3 instead of hitting a 9-run HR to put the game away.

I could understand it if he was having a Beltran-2005 type year but he's only about .050 points off his career average OPS. It's also pretty ridiculous to boo a guy that is important to your team when it obviously effects him negatively.

Jeter, for all his .340 batting average, actually has a lower OPS then A-Rod by about .020 points.

[Cakes]

All thats (sic) right with baseball?

His contract caused a ton of grief.

If he was all that is right with baseball he wouldn't be with his third team.

[JETSFAN5180]

A-Rod is having an A-Rod year does the absence of Sheffield and Matsui have anything to do with being off a points.He is the BIG BAT in the lineup as we speak. GIVE ME A BREAK.

[Murrell2878]

Is what a joke?
This/............

ANOTHER GREAT YANKEE PLAYER

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Look, he's got Damon, Jeter and Giambi in front of him in the lineup. Let's not make it out like A-Rod has no "help" in the lineup.

[JETSFAN5180]

?

His contract caused a ton of grief.

If he was all that is right with baseball he wouldn't be with his third team.


FREE AGENCY. Come out from under the rock you've been under.

VERY FEW PLAYERS STAY WITH TEAMS. Give baseball a salary cap and this will all change.

HE IS ALL THATS RIGHT WITH BASEBALL.

[Cakes]

You forgot Milky.

[JETSFAN5180]

Giambi yes this year hes been a long ball hitter Damon and Jeter arent known for homeruns.

[Cakes]

FREE AGENCY. Come out from under the rock you've been under.

VERY FEW PLAYERS STAY WITH TEAMS. Give baseball a salary cap and this will all change.

HE IS ALL THATS RIGHT WITH BASEBALL.

Well, he's too much contract for the Pirates.

[FITM]

A-Rod is having an A-Rod year does the absence of Sheffield and Matsui have anything to do with being off a points.He is the BIG BAT in the lineup as we speak. GIVE ME A BREAK.

He's the only guy in the lineup who is going to put up 25+ HRs.

A-Rod can't carry the team as the power bat on his own. It just won't happen. He needs one of Matsui or Sheffield to bat behind him to put up better numbers.

[JETSFAN5180]

If the Mets had A-Rod he's be the best player in baseball.They would rename Shea Stadium after him.They would retire his number.Its all about being a YANKEE and being a WINNER.

[JETSFAN5180]

Well, he's too much contract for the Pirates.


cakes you realize you lost this argument so you need to go there.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Damon's got a pretty good OBP, Jeter and Giambi's OBP are excellent and A-Rod's is very good as well. Yes, they've lost a couple players to injury, but the Yankees still have the 2nd highest scoring offense in baseball.

[Cakes]

If the Mets had A-Rod he's be the best player in baseball.They would rename Shea Stadium after him.They would retire his number.Its all about being a YANKEE and being a WINNER.

Instead he's known as a SLAPPER.

[Cakes]

cakes you realize you lost this argument so you need to go there.

Where did I lose this argument?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

I'm not sure if that pirate reference was intentional or not, but well done.

[JETSFAN5180]

Where did I lose this argument?


long ago go read back.ok pirate!

[JETSFAN5180]

I'm not sure if that pirate reference was intentional or not, but well done.


You are not sure? Get real.

[Cakes]

If you want to look at players who were close to being "all that is right with baseball" you could look at Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripken, 2, Bernie Williams, Craig Biggio. They all played in the free agency era and none of them played with three teams.

[JETSFAN5180]

If you want to look at players who were close to being "all that is right with baseball" you could look at Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripken, 2, Bernie Williams, Craig Biggio. They all played in the free agency era and none of them played with three teams.


FREE AGENCY IS WAY DIFFERENT NOW.PLEASE

[3rdAnd15Draw]

FREE AGENCY IS WAY DIFFERENT NOW.PLEASE

it's not polite to yell

[Cakes]

FREE AGENCY IS WAY DIFFERENT NOW.PLEASE

It is? There's a salary cap now? Did I miss something?

[AlioTheFool]

A-Rod's problem has a lot to do with the fans booing him. He is overthinking, and trying to play better than he needs to. If he could have 5 minutes peace, he would be just fine.

If he needs Matsui or Sheffield behind him, why did he hit homers in Texas?

Yes there is a salary cap in baseball. Unlike football, however, it is a soft cap. When a team goes over the cap, they pay 50% of each dollar over the cap back to the league. (Basically, the Yankees, Red Sox, and Mets are funding Major League Baseball in Kansas City.)

A-Rod is a class act. For anyone that wants to target him for defending himself to the media, think about why he has to. He gets trashed almost daily, and the reporters are constantly in his face. At least he isn't telling them to kiss his ass. Then he would never get any respect.

I like the point about A-Rod not being able to hit the 9-run homer. It's amazing that 3 times since the All-Star break he has either drove in or scored the go-ahead run, but yet people still say he doesn't score when it counts.

He is still on track for around 40 HRs, and over 130 RBI.

Giambi already has 28 HRs. So A-Rod isn't the only Yankee who will hit 25+ this year. He isn't even the first to reach the mark.

[Learn To Swim]

Just for kicks.

2006
OPS w/ RISP, 2 out:
Rodriguez- 1.027 (45 AB)
Jeter- 1.034 (37 AB)

Not bad.

OPS in Close and Late
Rodriguez- 0.573 (53 AB)
Jeter- 0.889 (50 AB)

Not Pretty.

Clutch Factor
Rodriguez- 5.0
Jeter- 2.9

Looks good.

[MSUJet85]

If the Mets had A-Rod he's be the best player in baseball.They would rename Shea Stadium after him.They would retire his number.Its all about being a YANKEE and being a WINNER.
Considering that fans booing affected him to the point that he forgot how to throw from 3rd to well any base, I think you are a lil off

[JETSFAN5180]

A-Rods supposed throwing error watch the videotape Andy Phillips(outfielder) looks like hes lunging for the ball instead of reaching out and stretching and staying on the base.

[TurkJetFan]

ARod Youngest Player to Reach 450 HRs

ANOTHER GREAT YANKEE PLAYER

Updated 8:30 PM ET July 21, 2006


TORONTO (AP) - New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez became the youngest player to reach 450 home runs when he hit one Friday night against the Toronto Blue Jays.

The three-run homer in the third inning off A.J. Burnett was also Rodriguez's 2000th hit.

Rodriguez, who turns 31 next Thursday, is the eighth player to get his 2000th hit before his 31st birthday.

The milestones come at a time when Rodriguez has struggled. He committed his team-leading 17th error in Thursday's loss to Toronto.

Ken Griffey Jr. was the previous youngest to reach 450. He was 31 years, 261 days old when he did it August 9, 2001


another great yankee player??? he accomplished most of that on other teams

[JETSFAN5180]

Considering that fans booing affected him to the point that he forgot how to throw from 3rd to well any base, I think you are a lil off


Im not a "lil off" If the Mets had A-Rod he'd be GOD.

[Cakes]

Im not a "lil off" If the Mets had A-Rod he'd be GOD.

Why do you think that?

[JETSFAN5180]

another great yankee player??? he accomplished most of that on other teams


What team is he on CURRENTLY hes another GREAT Yankee player he will retire a Yankee.

[JETSFAN5180]

Why do you think that?


Cause i know Mets fans.............................................. .....................

[TurkJetFan]

If the Mets had A-Rod he's be the best player in baseball.They would rename Shea Stadium after him.They would retire his number.Its all about being a YANKEE and being a WINNER.


honestly dont play that card right now...ill look you dead in the eye and say ill take david wright over arod as of today without a shadow of a doubt...

a - rod who is no doubt a great player is not playing great baseball...thats all this is about....

he doesnt hit in the clutch and doesnt play sound defense...and thats just a fact....yankee or not...

[Cakes]

Cause i know Mets fans.............................................. .....................

And we don't boo players for subpar performances?

[TurkJetFan]

Cause i know Mets fans.............................................. .....................


how does any of this have to do with mets fans....

your all star player is not playing all star baseball and this turns into how mets fans are bitter?? lol

[JETSFAN5180]

And we don't boo players for subpar performances?


BULL---------------------------ONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mets fans are the king of BOO birds.

[TurkJetFan]

BULL---------------------------ONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mets fans are the king of BOO birds.


umm i believe he was being sarcastic

[JETSFAN5180]

how does any of this have to do with mets fans....

your all star player is not playing all star baseball and this turns into how mets fans are bitter?? lol


It seems many Met fans are bashing A-Rod thats why.

[Cakes]

BULL---------------------------ONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mets fans are the king of BOO birds.

Thanks for making my point.

[TurkJetFan]

It seems many Met fans are bashing A-Rod thats why.


no not just mets fans...

yankee fans, and well...baseball fans...

PEOPLE are bashing a rod cuz hes not playing the way he is capable of.... but of course you turn it around as mets fans being the problem

its not my fault your all star cant throw to first and doesnt hit when it counts....so not matter how you want to turn this around its just not the case and never will be

[Cakes]

If Rod was with the Mets and messing up like this, he'd be booed unmerciful by Mets fans.

[JETSFAN5180]

NP When the season is over regardless of team accomplishments lets see who has better numbers A-Rod or any Met of your choice.

[JETSFAN5180]

no not just mets fans...

yankee fans, and well...baseball fans...

PEOPLE are bashing a rod cuz hes not playing the way he is capable of.... but of course you turn it around as mets fans being the problem

its not my fault your all star cant throw to first and doesnt hit when it counts....so not matter how you want to turn this around its just not the case and never will be


TURN IT AROUND?????????????

NOONE LIKES A WINNER............................ENOUGH SAID

[TurkJetFan]

NP When the season is over regardless of team accomplishments lets see who has better numbers A-Rod or any Met of your choice.



i believe thats everyones point....

arod hits in useless spots....when it counts he flounders...

and any met of my choice plays as a team and wins games....so ill take that winning season over any individual accomplishment anyday...

and just for that matter ill take david wright and put those numbers against arod

[TurkJetFan]

TURN IT AROUND?????????????

NOONE LIKES A WINNER............................ENOUGH SAID


who is the winner?!? a rod??? HE HASNT WON A CHAMPIONSHIP YET!! HE IS NO WINNER!!! hes a great player but a winner i think not


for you to say AROD's a winner is ridiculous....let him win a ring...then hes a winner...until then hes just another great player

[JETSFAN5180]

David Wright is having a tremondous year.A-Rod has had tremondous years fly by night fans only expect repeat performances over and over.Once a players falters many phony fans turn on them.Lets see what happens when Wright slumps. New York is a tough venue for any athlete.

[TurkJetFan]

David Wright is having a tremondous year.A-Rod has had tremondous years fly by night fans only expect repeat performances over and over.Once a players falters many phony fans turn on them.Lets see what happens when Wright slumps. New York is a tough venue for any athlete.



your absolutely right....i couldnt agree more....and we will see when that happens....


but the point is A Rod is a great player...one of the best of his time....a winner?? in my mind hes not a winner until he wins a ring....and you can ask any BASEBALL fan that question and youll probably get the same response...

[JETSFAN5180]

A-Rod as a player is a winner.Hes hit 450 hrs at age 31.He can retire today and be happy with his career.Some players never win rings but are still winners.Like Wayne Chrebet a true sportsman and a WINNER!

[TurkJetFan]

A-Rod as a player is a winner.Hes hit 450 hrs at age 31.He can retire today and be happy with his career.Some players never win rings but are still winners.Like Wayne Chrebet a true sportsman and a WINNER!


wayne chrebet is a winner not because of his stats but because of what he overcame to achieve those stats....

ask a rod if he can retire today and be happy with his career and i can almost guarentee you he will say not until i win a ring....at least thats an answer anyone with a winners mentality would give....

and that does not make arod a winner that makes him a very accomplished player....not a winner

[Learn To Swim]

It seems many Met fans are bashing A-Rod thats why.Are you illiterate? I found one outright insult to A-Rod in this thread, and it was from a Yankee fan. FITM, 3rdand15, and myself have all actually made the case FOR Rodriguez in this thread.

[typeOnegative13NY]

A rod is a great player and puts up great numbers. His numbers are even pretty good even though he's having a "bad year" so far. but right now,with all the injuries we have,we need him to come through in big spots,and help carry this team. He fails to do so time after time. I don't dislike the guy and I don't want him to be traded etc,but he is undeniably not living up to his status. Good for him and his numbers,but for crying out loud,be a contributing factor to wins,not loses.

[AlioTheFool]

If A-Rod was playing for the Mets, he would be booed just like he is now. It's not because of the fans either. It's the media.

A-Rod doesn't hit in the clutch? That's funny, I could swear I saw him hit a walk-off homer right before the All-Star break. Like I said in my last post, he has either touched home, or drove in the go-ahead run three times since the All-Star break.

I think a lot of this "can't hit in the clutch" stems from last year's playoffs. The weight of the series was all on A-Rod's poor performance. Yes, he did not play like the best player in the game, but neither did anyone else. The Yankees were dominated as a team. But A-Rod, with his pretty contract, takes all of the blame.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, everyone slumps. Is he playing poorly at third? Well, that depends who you ask. Sure, he has a lot of errors, but he has also made some ridiculously fantastic plays as well. Those don't show up in the boxscore though, so they never matter.

NY is a "what have you done for me lately" town. The media needs stories to sell papers. We have 4 major papers in the city. (Times, Newsday, Daily News, and Post.) Each of them is fighting for readers. We also have 6 nightly news channels. (2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11) That's a lot of fighting for stories. It's always easier to pick on A-Rod or Lastings Milledge when they underperform. Why talk about Jeter or Wright? They are playing successfully. No one can say anything bad about those guys.

[abyzmul]

I'm tired of A-Rod collecting stats, if he's a Yankee long enough to break Aaron's record I may never closely follow baseball again. Something BAD needs to happen to Steinbrenner.

[Learn To Swim]

A rod is a great player and puts up great numbers. His numbers are even pretty good even though he's having a "bad year" so far. but right now,with all the injuries we have,we need him to come through in big spots,and help carry this team. He fails to do so time after time. I don't dislike the guy and I don't want him to be traded etc,but he is undeniably not living up to his status. Good for him and his numbers,but for crying out loud,be a contributing factor to wins,not loses.He has 14 win shares, tied for 8th most in the majors. However, there are 25 players with more, including Jeter (16) and Giambi (15).

[kinghenry89]

I'm tired of A-Rod collecting stats, if he's a Yankee long enough to break Aaron's record I may never closely follow baseball again. Something BAD needs to happen to Steinbrenner.
What, you think that his son in law (Steve Swindal, who Steinbrenner's already announced will inherit the team) is going to up and give away argueably the most talented player in baseball and reigning MVP?

Personally I'd be glad if Rodriguez is the one to break Aaron's record. He's a great natural power hitter--better him than some human juice box like Bonds.

[abyzmul]

I have no problem with him breaking the record. But let him make a zillion dollars off of someone else's payroll doing it.

[statjeff22]

It's pretty funny that L_T_S's post seems to have gone by without notice. It is Yankees fans who constantly criticize A Rod, not Mets fans - saying that you think Wright is having a better year than A Rod is not criticizing him. (And I'm not saying it's all Yankees fans, but the people who criticize him are overwhelmingly Yankees fans.)

Rodriguez has had a great career, and is still one of the top players in baseball. Anyone who disputes that is IMO crazy. I sincerely hope that Tom Glavine gets his 300th career win with the Mets next year (which would mean that he's pitching a little better than he is right now!), but I'm not going to be foolish enough to call him a "great Met." If A Rod does end up playing 7-10 years with the Yankees and retiring as a Yankee that could change things, but right now? It's a ridiculous notion.

[AMJets]

A-Rods supposed throwing error watch the videotape Andy Phillips(outfielder) looks like hes lunging for the ball instead of reaching out and stretching and staying on the base.

Since when is Andy Phillips an outfielder?

[MisterMoss]

For as many problems I have with the guy, it must be really awesome to get your 450th homer and 2000th hit at the same exact time.

[devilonthetownhallroof]

A-Rod haters think every loss is his fault. The guy is all thats right with baseball.Not to mention a great role model to kids.

Except for that illegal gambling he was involved in.

[nyjunc]

Congrats to ARod, I've said enough about him that I don't need to pile on now.

[MisterMoss]

wayne chrebet is a winner not because of his stats but because of what he overcame to achieve those stats....

ask a rod if he can retire today and be happy with his career and i can almost guarentee you he will say not until i win a ring....at least thats an answer anyone with a winners mentality would give....

and that does not make arod a winner that makes him a very accomplished player....not a winner
Very well put :up:

[Rextasy]

Yankee fans don't deserve a player like ARod. He is on his way to having another 40 HR 120 RBI year yet he is booed constantly..

[jonnyd]

He's been given the Beltran treatment. A-Rod can't carry the team by himself, he needs Matsui or Sheff to bat behind him so he can see more pitches. Posada doesn't exactly scare a pitching staff.

A-Rod just will never be accepted if he doesn't bring a ring to NY.



that argument carries no water.....its not like anyones pitching around him...he sees plenty to hit, he just doesnt do it......not to mention, the biggest problem yankee fan have with the guy is his lack of hitting in the big spot....bases loaded 2 out game on the line, im pretty sure theyre not pitching around him

[Learn To Swim]

that argument carries no water.....its not like anyones pitching around him...he sees plenty to hit, he just doesnt do it......not to mention, the biggest problem yankee fan have with the guy is his lack of hitting in the big spot....bases loaded 2 out game on the line, im pretty sure theyre not pitching around himHe's been intentionally walked 5 times, leading the Yankees.

And I don't think anybody is going to be pitched around with the bases loaded and the game on the line...that's justs dumb.

[devilonthetownhallroof]

He's been intentionally walked 5 times, leading the Yankees.

And I don't think anybody is going to be pitched around with the bases loaded and the game on the line...that's justs dumb.

David Ortiz has been intentionally walked 12 times, leading the AL. He seems to be fine.

[Learn To Swim]

David Ortiz has been intentionally walked 12 times, leading the AL. He seems to be fine.Irrelevant, but good for him. And Ortiz is tied with Raul Ibanez of all people, go figure.

[devilonthetownhallroof]

It is relevant, unless I miss your point. Arod's problem is NOT that he isn't getting anything to hit. Ortiz has been IBB'd more than him, plus has some pretty assinine shifts put on him, and is fine. And no one in the league is grooving them in to Papi with the game on the line. Arod needs to learn to wait for a pitcher to make a mistake, and then make them pay for it.

[CP to LC =TD]

It is relevant, unless I miss your point. Arod's problem is NOT that he isn't getting anything to hit. Ortiz has been IBB'd more than him, plus has some pretty assinine shifts put on him, and is fine. And no one in the league is grooving them in to Papi with the game on the line. Arod needs to learn to wait for a pitcher to make a mistake, and then make them pay for it.

So true. He swings at everything in a big spot

[Learn To Swim]

It is relevant, unless I miss your point. Arod's problem is NOT that he isn't getting anything to hit. Ortiz has been IBB'd more than him, plus has some pretty assinine shifts put on him, and is fine. And no one in the league is grooving them in to Papi with the game on the line. Arod needs to learn to wait for a pitcher to make a mistake, and then make them pay for it.Oh, oh, alright that's understandable. I was just commenting on johnnyd's assertion that teams aren't afraid to pitch to him big spots.

Ortiz is a better hitter right now, and I'd say second in the entire game to Pujols. A-Rod is not as good a hitter with the game on the line as Ortiz, but who is? I'm just trying to disprove the notion that he's a complete worthless paper tiger, even though it is fun to say he is.

[abyzmul]

Arod needs to learn to wait for a pitcher to make a mistake, and then make them pay for it.
You don't get to be the highest-paid player in the game without knowing how to wait for your pitch. A-Rod needs to stay away from the shrinks and self-help tapes and pull his head out of his ass. Headcases don't make the money he makes unless they are Hollywood icons - AKA professional fakes.

[typeOnegative13NY]

Yankee fans don't deserve a player like ARod. He is on his way to having another 40 HR 120 RBI year yet he is booed constantly..
Oh,we don't deserve him now? He is on the way to putting up decent #s,but in those numbers is an already higher error # than he had all of last year. He gets out in big spots,and has put up his numbers when it didn't matter in most cases. I know that is just beautiful for Met fans,because that's the kind of thing that has highlighted their seasons for 20 years,but over the bridge,we base things on winning games and championships.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

rough day for a-rod

[CP to LC =TD]

rough day for a-rod

rough week for him as well

[devilonthetownhallroof]

You don't get to be the highest-paid player in the game without knowing how to wait for your pitch. A-Rod needs to stay away from the shrinks and self-help tapes and pull his head out of his ass. Headcases don't make the money he makes unless they are Hollywood icons - AKA professional fakes.

Maybe I shouldn't have said "learn", but he needs to start doing that. He is entirely too impatient, and chases too many bad pitches. Pitchers aren't going to give him much to hit, but most of the time you can get one or MAYBE two mistakes out of the pitcher. It's all a matter of fouling off or taking the bad ones and waiting on the good ones.

[abyzmul]

Maybe I shouldn't have said "learn", but he needs to start doing that. He is entirely too impatient, and chases too many bad pitches. Pitchers aren't going to give him much to hit, but most of the time you can get one or MAYBE two mistakes out of the pitcher. It's all a matter of fouling off or taking the bad ones and waiting on the good ones.
A-Rod is a bimbo. That really explains it all to me.

[Rextasy]

Oh,we don't deserve him now?
NO you don't. Yankee fans should be doomed to a roster full of Roger Cedenos for the way ARod has been treated. :smile:

[typeOnegative13NY]

NO you don't. Yankee fans should be doomed to a roster full of Roger Cedenos for the way ARod has been treated. :smile:
:lol: :shit:

[GreenMachine]

Golden Sombrero. Is Brosius still available?

[nyjunc]

NO you don't. Yankee fans should be doomed to a roster full of Roger Cedenos for the way ARod has been treated. :smile:

I keep seeing opposing fans and nat'' media rip the treatment of ARod. When he starts playing better consistently and starts coming through more in the clutch he'll be treated like a God. Not every player when they come here is treated warmly, in the last decade alone guys like Tino, Girardi, Giambi and others have been booed to death yet they were mentally tough to come back. If ARod can't handle the booing then maybe this isn't the place for him? Jeter and Mariano have been booed!!!!!!!!!!!! Mickey mantle was booed!!!!! ARod was playing well better before the 3 error game but now his fragile mind has this throwing problem. Suck it up(I don't mean in a "Red Ass Rip City" way, I'm talking to toughen up) and started playing like he can and the boos will die. I don't mean 1 big hit then 2 weeks of the usual, become more consistent and the boos will stop.

[AlioTheFool]

I keep seeing opposing fans and nat'' media rip the treatment of ARod. When he starts playing better consistently and starts coming through more in the clutch he'll be treated like a God. Not every player when they come here is treated warmly, in the last decade alone guys like Tino, Girardi, Giambi and others have been booed to death yet they were mentally tough to come back. If ARod can't handle the booing then maybe this isn't the place for him? Jeter and Mariano have been booed!!!!!!!!!!!! Mickey mantle was booed!!!!! ARod was playing well better before the 3 error game but now his fragile mind has this throwing problem. Suck it up(I don't mean in a "Red Ass Rip City" way, I'm talking to toughen up) and started playing like he can and the boos will die. I don't mean 1 big hit then 2 weeks of the usual, become more consistent and the boos will stop.

Yeah, the only player in Yankee history I can't remember seeing being booed was Mattingly. You have to know you will hear it coming here. It's the toughest stage in sports, for all of our area's teams.

As far as Ortiz, he has something A-Rod doesn't, Manny hitting behind him. It doesn't explain why Ortiz is getting intentionally walked, but it does explain why Ortiz sees quite a few hittable pitches. If you told me I could have one guy in the majors to start a team with, it would be Manny. If A-Rod had Manny hitting behind him, he would have had 450 last September.

I wasn't even going to post again in this thread, since I'm really sick of the "kick A-Rod when he's down" club. Does he single-handedly lose games for the Yankees? No. Has he struck out when he could have helped score runs? Yes. Has he done it every single time he had the chance? No. Does every major leaguer strike out in a big situation at least a few times in his career? Only if he plays in the majors for more than a year.

It just seems like it always comes down to one thing. A-Rod is making a boatload of cash. Since he isn't hitting like Ruth, people don't think he deserves it somehow. The thing people never seem to put together about it though is that the Texas Rangers gave him that money because they couldn't field a winning team, and wanted something to get fans into the seats. Sure, the Yankees have to pay it now, but I'll bet if you ask any GM in the major leagues if they would be happy to pay A-Rod's salary, even now, the answer would be overwhelmingly yes.

[Cakes]

That pirate poster made me think of this thread so I bumped it.
Post 46 (re: 44 and 37) is hilarious to me.


Ahh, the good old days when a non-Yankees fan could tease Yankees fans.

Darn it! I thought this was going to appear in the bullshit section. Well, here comes a warning. Cakes is in the baseball forum! Oh no!

[MSUJet85]

That pirate poster made me think of this thread so I bumped it.
Post 46 (re: 44 and 37) is hilarious to me.


Ahh, the good old days when a non-Yankees fan could tease Yankees fans.

Darn it! I thought this was going to appear in the bullshit section. Well, here comes a warning. Cakes is in the baseball forum! Oh no!

hahahaha :lol:

The pirate certainly did have some gems in him