I wonder what that racist Shannon Sharpe is saying now?

[jets12]

If you recall a six weeks ago Shanno Sharpe came on TV saying that Matt Leinart was taking a class in ballroom dancing while Vince Young was going still attending classes.

what Shannon failed to do was his own homework. If he had, he would have found out that Leinart had actually already graduated early with highest honors no less and rather than leave school, he wanted to complete his last year of eligibility.

Things like this and what a spoiled punk like Bryant Gumbal says should not be treated lightly and they need to be held to the same standards as all other people.

I do not have a prejudiced bone in my body but statements like Sharpe and Bryant make only incites others.

There should never be a double standard in anything and it has taken hard work and dedication by many black leaders for the last 50 years to break down some of these barriers and more progress needs to be made. However, I think one of the best ways to make more progress is for someone to come out and rip these morons for making these statements.

[lightning]

This belongs in the nfl forum, but is very interesting, and im glad you posted this. First off i never watch anything that bryant gumbel does. Shannon sharpe on the other hand is just too stupid to pay attention to. I wouldn't pay too much attention to this.

[Learn To Swim]

Right now, Shannon Sharpe is probably looking in a mirror professing his love for himself.

[WesleyWuzTheMan]

I do not have a prejudiced bone in my body but statements like Sharpe and Bryant make only incites others.

Except race is the first thing you think of when a commentator who happens to be black makes a comment about a player who happens to be white.

[BIG COUNTRY]

Gumbel is racist, I think Sharpe is just a moron

[J-E-T-S 05]

Except race is the first thing you think of when a commentator who happens to be black makes a comment about a player who happens to be white.

exactly, that's not racist, it's just a dumb comment.

i almost never post, but this irked me.

[jonnyd]

exactly, that's not racist, it's just a dumb comment.

i almost never post, but this irked me.
BUT.....if the roles were reversed...and say troy aikman pointed out that leinart was going to school and young was taking dance lessons...would there be a public outcry that the white man was insinuating the black guy couldnt learn and didnt take school seriously and yadda yadda?????u bet yer ass there would

[Brooks Brady]

Except race is the first thing you think of when a commentator who happens to be black makes a comment about a player who happens to be white.
haha...exactly

[jonnyd]

you guys are illustrating the double standard by your comments against jets 12.....

[NYJets38]

BUT.....if the roles were reversed...and say troy aikman pointed out that leinart was going to school and young was taking dance lessons...would there be a public outcry that the white man was insinuating the black guy couldnt learn and didnt take school seriously and yadda yadda?????u bet yer ass there would

Yes, and the public outcry would be just as ignorant as the original post.

If this is all that Sharpe said, than there's no reason this should be a racial issue.

[Amaru]

you guys are illustrating the double standard by your comments against jets 12.....
No, they are not. They are merely pointing out the ignorance of his statement, "I do not have a prejudiced bone in my body..."
Everyone has their biases and prejudices, and anyone who makes a statement like that only makes himself seem rather ridiculous.

[DennisByrd]

If you recall a six weeks ago Shanno Sharpe came on TV saying that Matt Leinart was taking a class in ballroom dancing while Vince Young was going still attending classes.

what Shannon failed to do was his own homework. If he had, he would have found out that Leinart had actually already graduated early with highest honors no less and rather than leave school, he wanted to complete his last year of eligibility.

Things like this and what a spoiled punk like Bryant Gumbal says should not be treated lightly and they need to be held to the same standards as all other people.

I do not have a prejudiced bone in my body but statements like Sharpe and Bryant make only incites others.

There should never be a double standard in anything and it has taken hard work and dedication by many black leaders for the last 50 years to break down some of these barriers and more progress needs to be made. However, I think one of the best ways to make more progress is for someone to come out and rip these morons for making these statements.


I think you are WAY off base here. I don't see how those comments made by Sharpe could ever be taken as racist or if a white guy said the same thing about a black athlete. That is just ridiculous.

If you're referring to Gumbel's comments on the olympics as being racist that's just ridiculous too. I don't agree with a lot of what he said, but It didn't even occur to me that he was being racist or that anyone else would come to that conclusion.

Seems like you are trying to make racism an issue out of things that just aren't race issues. I agree with the previous post that it's weird for someone to state they don't have a racist bone in their body, but their first reaction when someone states an opinion that irks them is to go to the race card.

[nightowltom]

I think you are WAY off base here. I don't see how those comments made by Sharpe could ever be taken as racist or if a white guy said the same thing about a black athlete. That is just ridiculous.

If you're referring to Gumbel's comments on the olympics as being racist that's just ridiculous too. I don't agree with a lot of what he said, but It didn't even occur to me that he was being racist or that anyone else would come to that conclusion.

Seems like you are trying to make racism an issue out of things that just aren't race issues. I agree with the previous post that it's weird for someone to state they don't have a racist bone in their body, but their first reaction when someone states an opinion that irks them is to go to the race card.

You didn't think was Gumbel was saying was racist? From what I've been reading during the Olympics apparently you and Gumbel are the only ones who don't think so.

Carl Lewis's sister was a commentator and she was irritated because as a black woman she said she had to work hard to build credibility as a Winter Olympics commentator. She said that when Carl was a world record holder he often said that there may be someone out there in the world who could beat him, but he can only compete against whoever shows up and he was the best of anyone he knew of. By Gumbel's standard, as long as that guy was out there somewhere in the world, no one can call themselves a true champion. That comment would be ridiculous even if he stopped there but Gumbel didn't stop there. The fact that he specified that it was particularly true because there are few black athletes in the winter games was what made it racist.

[jtrain]

first of all lets get one thing straight. Lets Drop the damn racist issue now. Shannon Sharpe made a dumb comment, how can you compare that towards race unless you are racist yourself. You mean to tell me what Sharpe said was racist. Get out of here. What Gumbel said was not even racist. We should be focusing on the NY Jets. How about AJ Hawk

[F Miami]

yeah, I fail to see how what Sharpe said has anything to do with race. Am I missing something? Gumbel is an idiot though.

[Pride]

there is a difference between racism n ignorance/ stupidity. Sharpe is not a racist

[kinghenry89]

BUT.....if the roles were reversed...and say troy aikman pointed out that leinart was going to school and young was taking dance lessons...would there be a public outcry that the white man was insinuating the black guy couldnt learn and didnt take school seriously and yadda yadda?????u bet yer ass there would

There would be no public outcry at all. Just like there was no public outcry at all about Shannon Sharpe making fun of Matt Leinart taking dance lessons.

White people have been an oppresive majority over black people in America for over 300 years. Just in the last few decades the situation is starting to rectify itself. Don't go harping "reverse racism!" every time a black guy talks about a white guy, because I'm gonna let you in on a little secret:

:shit:

[Serphnx]

There would be no public outcry at all. Just like there was no public outcry at all about Shannon Sharpe making fun of Matt Leinart taking dance lessons.

White people have been an oppresive majority over black people in America for over 300 years. Just in the last few decades the situation is starting to rectify itself. Don't go harping "reverse racism!" every time a black guy talks about a white guy, because I'm gonna let you in on a little secret:

:shit:

Not even that. In order for reverse racism to occur, the races would need to be on equal footing so that any imbalance would tilt to the benefiting party's advantage. In all honesty, people could go out of their way to blatantly be racist against white people, and it still simply would not be able to balance out the racism minorities face on a daily basis. There are way more racist white people than people racist against white people in this world, and they will interpret statements the way they choose to. Making a racist statement against a white person means nothing to most people, racist white and non-racist minorities, whereas making a racist statement against a minority IS believed to be true by racist whites. And it does harm the minorities as a result.

Look, basically it boils down to this: after Sharpe's comments, would you still rather be white, a minority, or have no preference? I know personally my overwhelming preference would be to be white, because of white privilege and the state of affairs currently in the majority if the country, if not all of it. It'd be nice if everyone was considered equal, but that really isn't true. It'd be great if at some point this would be an actual problem, and we'd actively have to defense against racism against whites, but no rational person can possibly think that with all facts considered. Unfortunately, most people are either too stupid or close minded to try to understand this. Most people are only concerned about what is advantageous to themselves. Oh well, that's just life. Probably depressing to think about it.

[Cakes]

Bryant Gumbel is black?

[28rogerblaze51]

Im not a racist, but alot of black people make it hard not be....

[Serphnx]

Im not a racist, but alot of black people make it hard not be....

I'm not racist because I hate all races equally. Seriously, no race is good. They all have idiots and shitty characteristics. I only hate when people rank one race higher than another. I make fun of them all at once...:)

[Amaru]

Not even that. In order for reverse racism to occur, the races would need to be on equal footing so that any imbalance would tilt to the benefiting party's advantage. In all honesty, people could go out of their way to blatantly be racist against white people, and it still simply would not be able to balance out the racism minorities face on a daily basis. There are way more racist white people than people racist against white people in this world, and they will interpret statements the way they choose to. Making a racist statement against a white person means nothing to most people, racist white and non-racist minorities, whereas making a racist statement against a minority IS believed to be true by racist whites. And it does harm the minorities as a result.

Look, basically it boils down to this: after Sharpe's comments, would you still rather be white, a minority, or have no preference? I know personally my overwhelming preference would be to be white, because of white privilege and the state of affairs currently in the majority if the country, if not all of it. It'd be nice if everyone was considered equal, but that really isn't true. It'd be great if at some point this would be an actual problem, and we'd actively have to defense against racism against whites, but no rational person can possibly think that with all facts considered. Unfortunately, most people are either too stupid or close minded to try to understand this. Most people are only concerned about what is advantageous to themselves. Oh well, that's just life. Probably depressing to think about it.
Wow, that's a pretty extreme stance, but props to you for posting that. I don't think there will be many here that understand though.

[Cakes]

I'm not racist because I hate all races equally. Seriously, no race is good. They all have idiots and shitty characteristics. I only hate when people rank one race higher than another.


I read this and immediately I pictured a guy sitting down at a desk and making a list of the races on a sheet of paper.
Us sports fans make lists often- best QBs, favorite players, power rankings, etc.
I am also reminded of a headline at a sports parody site-
"Sportswriter Can't Stop Ranking Things."

[Chadwick I]

Not even that. In order for reverse racism to occur, the races would need to be on equal footing so that any imbalance would tilt to the benefiting party's advantage. In all honesty, people could go out of their way to blatantly be racist against white people, and it still simply would not be able to balance out the racism minorities face on a daily basis. There are way more racist white people than people racist against white people in this world, and they will interpret statements the way they choose to. Making a racist statement against a white person means nothing to most people, racist white and non-racist minorities, whereas making a racist statement against a minority IS believed to be true by racist whites. And it does harm the minorities as a result.

Look, basically it boils down to this: after Sharpe's comments, would you still rather be white, a minority, or have no preference? I know personally my overwhelming preference would be to be white, because of white privilege and the state of affairs currently in the majority if the country, if not all of it. It'd be nice if everyone was considered equal, but that really isn't true. It'd be great if at some point this would be an actual problem, and we'd actively have to defense against racism against whites, but no rational person can possibly think that with all facts considered. Unfortunately, most people are either too stupid or close minded to try to understand this. Most people are only concerned about what is advantageous to themselves. Oh well, that's just life. Probably depressing to think about it.

I'm not sure I agree with this. Hear me out first before you label me as a racist first. I don't think that you can tally up racist actions and make them "even out." A racist action is wrong no matter what. Just because you are treated like shit does not give you the right to treat other people like shit on the same basis. I myself am a minority, and I feel like, while racism is probably present in most people's thoughts, whether they manifest it outwardly, it only serves to make you look paranoid by pulling out the racism card any time in which race is possibly a factor. Could it have been? Yes. Do you have proof? No.

The situation is something like the boy who cried wolf. If you cry racism too quickly for trivial things that can easily be accounted for by other factors, even if racism was a factor, and can not prove beyond reasonable doubt that racism was a motivation, people will simply tune you out when it does matter.

[kinghenry89]

I read this and immediately I pictured a guy sitting down at a desk and making a list of the races on a sheet of paper.
Us sports fans make lists often- best QBs, favorite players, power rankings, etc.
I am also reminded of a headline at a sports parody site-
"Sportswriter Can't Stop Ranking Things."

:rofl2: OK, somebody name one legitimate reason why Sportscenter shouldn't do the "Sperm Lottery Top 10?"

[ThunderbirdJet]

Not even that. In order for reverse racism to occur, the races would need to be on equal footing so that any imbalance would tilt to the benefiting party's advantage. In all honesty, people could go out of their way to blatantly be racist against white people, and it still simply would not be able to balance out the racism minorities face on a daily basis. There are way more racist white people than people racist against white people in this world, and they will interpret statements the way they choose to. Making a racist statement against a white person means nothing to most people, racist white and non-racist minorities, whereas making a racist statement against a minority IS believed to be true by racist whites. And it does harm the minorities as a result.

Look, basically it boils down to this: after Sharpe's comments, would you still rather be white, a minority, or have no preference? I know personally my overwhelming preference would be to be white, because of white privilege and the state of affairs currently in the majority if the country, if not all of it. It'd be nice if everyone was considered equal, but that really isn't true. It'd be great if at some point this would be an actual problem, and we'd actively have to defense against racism against whites, but no rational person can possibly think that with all facts considered. Unfortunately, most people are either too stupid or close minded to try to understand this. Most people are only concerned about what is advantageous to themselves. Oh well, that's just life. Probably depressing to think about it.

The most ridiculous thing I've ever read in a forum. I worked for the NYC MTA as a subway train motorman. The racial insults and indignities I went through weren't any fun at all. The difference was that balck on white racism was accepted behavior (whites are in the vast minority at the MTA), but ANY comment whatsoever by a white about ANYTHING related to blacks, including rap music, and people would be brought up on charges.

The truth is, I found that blacks were miltantly racist (about 40%). How many whites might have been is unknown to me.... any anti-black statements would be dealt with severely, so I never heard any. But you would not believe the racism from the majority blacks on that job.

Even my black friends didn't like it, but they had to keep quiet too, or be ostracized. Blacks seem to think they have some sort of lock on these biases. I had one tell me all about how I benefited from slavery, because I was white. Clueless. And wrong. My family, after having their modest farm taken away and made to work as endentured slaves to English royalty in Ireland were put on potato famine ships, and sent to the states, while most of them died during the trip.

When they got to NY, they were homeless, and their children were taken and sent on the so called orphan trains out to the midwest to work as endentured slaves yet again, on farms out there. Many Irish joined the US Army in the civil war, and were used as cannon fodder. It was better than starving and freezing to death on the streets of NY. Many died in the war AGAINST slavery.

The sooner blacks can get over this victim syndrome, the sooner things will improve. Guess what? You can't blame verything that goes bad for you on your skin color. I also happen to think it would help if gangsta's and cop killing wasn't so romanticised by black culture, but that is a different topic.

[buddapaw]

Man i kinda hear you but I just experience it first hand TODAY. I applied for a job that i am truly qualified for and did not get it. The job was given to a lady who has had mental issues. Needless to say I am now in the process of finding another job. It does exsist!!!

All I do is work hard to earn and this just totally kills me.
Oh and by the way the Irish had it bad also, I have FRIENDS who are Irish

[hotcoles87123]

If you recall a six weeks ago Shanno Sharpe came on TV saying that Matt Leinart was taking a class in ballroom dancing while Vince Young was going still attending classes.

what Shannon failed to do was his own homework. If he had, he would have found out that Leinart had actually already graduated early with highest honors no less and rather than leave school, he wanted to complete his last year of eligibility.

Things like this and what a spoiled punk like Bryant Gumbal says should not be treated lightly and they need to be held to the same standards as all other people.

I do not have a prejudiced bone in my body but statements like Sharpe and Bryant make only incites others.

There should never be a double standard in anything and it has taken hard work and dedication by many black leaders for the last 50 years to break down some of these barriers and more progress needs to be made. However, I think one of the best ways to make more progress is for someone to come out and rip these morons for making these statements.
beautiful Post-- I didn't know about Sharpe's comment-- I can't stand that guy.

[MSUJet85]

The most ridiculous thing I've ever read in a forum. I worked for the NYC MTA as a subway train motorman. The racial insults and indignities I went through weren't any fun at all. The difference was that balck on white racism was accepted behavior (whites are in the vast minority at the MTA), but ANY comment whatsoever by a white about ANYTHING related to blacks, including rap music, and people would be brought up on charges.

The truth is, I found that blacks were miltantly racist (about 40%). How many whites might have been is unknown to me.... any anti-black statements would be dealt with severely, so I never heard any. But you would not believe the racism from the majority blacks on that job.

Even my black friends didn't like it, but they had to keep quiet too, or be ostracized. Blacks seem to think they have some sort of lock on these biases. I had one tell me all about how I benefited from slavery, because I was white. Clueless. And wrong. My family, after having their modest farm taken away and made to work as endentured slaves to English royalty in Ireland were put on potato famine ships, and sent to the states, while most of them died during the trip.

When they got to NY, they were homeless, and their children were taken and sent on the so called orphan trains out to the midwest to work as endentured slaves yet again, on farms out there. Many Irish joined the US Army in the civil war, and were used as cannon fodder. It was better than starving and freezing to death on the streets of NY. Many died in the war AGAINST slavery.

The sooner blacks can get over this victim syndrome, the sooner things will improve. Guess what? You can't blame verything that goes bad for you on your skin color. I also happen to think it would help if gangsta's and cop killing wasn't so romanticised by black culture, but that is a different topic.
The problem with this statement is that your job will give you a bias view. Just like with my mom dealing with white people who sexually abused their children, depressed, on drugs, etc. Being in that type of environment will skew anyones view. The way I see it, there is garbage on both sides of the racetrack, and there is nothing you can do about it.

[JHTJ]

Not even that. In order for reverse racism to occur, the races would need to be on equal footing so that any imbalance would tilt to the benefiting party's advantage. In all honesty, people could go out of their way to blatantly be racist against white people, and it still simply would not be able to balance out the racism minorities face on a daily basis. There are way more racist white people than people racist against white people in this world, and they will interpret statements the way they choose to. Making a racist statement against a white person means nothing to most people, racist white and non-racist minorities, whereas making a racist statement against a minority IS believed to be true by racist whites. And it does harm the minorities as a result.

Look, basically it boils down to this: after Sharpe's comments, would you still rather be white, a minority, or have no preference? I know personally my overwhelming preference would be to be white, because of white privilege and the state of affairs currently in the majority if the country, if not all of it. It'd be nice if everyone was considered equal, but that really isn't true. It'd be great if at some point this would be an actual problem, and we'd actively have to defense against racism against whites, but no rational person can possibly think that with all facts considered. Unfortunately, most people are either too stupid or close minded to try to understand this. Most people are only concerned about what is advantageous to themselves. Oh well, that's just life. Probably depressing to think about it.I agree with some of this post.

You have to distinguish between individual racism and institutional racism.

Anyone can be an individual racist if they believe in the inherent inferiority/superiority of one race over another, or if they advocate basing the treatment of others on their race.

Blacks can't be very racist at the institutional level, to really be racist at that level, they would have to control a large enough chunk of this nation's institutions to act on whatever individual racist tendencies they might have. However, I am a caucasian man that spent the majority of my life in predominantly black area. Let me tell you that I wholeheartedly feel that as Individuals, African Americans are just as racist as Caucasians.

Not that I can walk a mile in anyone's shoes, but I'm willing to bet the bank that generally speaking, life for a Black kid in a white neighberood is probably a little better than life for a White kid in a black neighberhood. I'm just saying......

Racism exists on both sides.

[MSUJet85]

Not that I can walk a mile in anyone's shoes, but I'm willing to bet the bank that generally speaking, life for a Black kid in a white neighberood is probably a little better than life for a White kid in a black neighberhood. I'm just saying......

The only problem with that statement is that now you have to consider the ecomonical aspect of the neighborhood, for the most part if a black kid is living in a white neighborhood, he is probably living in the suburbs in a middle class area, where everyone is spread out pretty well, so if you do see it you can avoid it well, and I know I live in a white neighborhood that is slowly getting mixed, when I was in HS, in one school bus that I had no choice but to get in, it felt like the 50s the amount of racism in that bus, when I sat near the front, it was in a area full of racist white people, the tension/racism got so bad while the bus was moving I had to move to the back. But back to my point in a black neighborhood, it would be in the city where everyone is packed in one area so the racism is concentrated.

[Barry the Baptist]

Wow this is a heavy discsussion and to call anybody a racist is a bold statement and I think you'd need more than this example to label Sharpe a racist.

Speaking of the race issue there is a major controversy here in Vegas. A few weeks ago a police officer answering a domestic violence call was shot and killed through the door by a wannabe gangster rapper with an AK-47. This was not the first issue involving gangster rap in Las Vegas. Many will remeber Tupac was shot and killed here and a few years later there was a riot at the MGM Grand involving gangster rappers that resulted in a few murders. 2 summers ago somebody was shot and killed in the parking lot of the Palms following a Snoop concert. Over the summer here 3 more gangster rappers were murdered in North Las Vegas. A few months ago there was another huge fight at the Alladin. The result... our sherriff Bill Young and some high ups in the casino business are pushing a ban on gangster rap on the Las Vegas strip. There is alot of support on this by the right wing in Las Vegas but I think this is a serious violation of the constitution. I can't say it's racially motivated because I don't know the type of people that attend these concerts, I don't care for the music or the gloryfying of degrading women or killing people so I don't listen. I am however under the impression that a large majority of concert goers are middle and upper class white kids. An issue I have with this is I have been to many a rock concert and fights break out. There are fights are every concert I attend in Las Vegas and I've got news for you, the concerts I attend aren't gangster rap. I know these didn't take place in Las Vegas but how about the Rolling Stones concert in San Fran or the Who concert in Cinci, hell more recent the Guns and Roses concert in Montreal. Even at the last Woodstock there were issues. The question is can this be racially motivated and where is the line drawn? When does Will Smith get banned from performing on the strip? After all he is a rap artist. My opinion is it goes deeper than just gangster rap, when does the government start telling us what we can and can't listen to? Like I said there are people here that support this. Supposedly they want to protect their investment the Las Vegas strip because it is the lifeblood of the city. They say they can't protect the poeple on the strip when these types of concerts are going on.

What are your thughts?

[IslandJET]

Bryant Gumbel is black?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Wolfe Tone]

[QUOTE=buddapaw]Man i kinda hear you but I just experience it first hand TODAY. I applied for a job that i am truly qualified for and did not get it. The job was given to a lady who has had mental issues. Needless to say I am now in the process of finding another job. It does exsist!!!

All I do is work hard to earn and this just totally kills me.
Oh and by the way the Irish had it bad also, I have FRIENDS who are Irish[/QUOTE

I am Irish and also am a historian on the topic. 800 years of oppresion lead to 1916 Easter Rising and the following "troubles" We are having a commemoration of the 90th anniversary and the 25th Hunger strike of 1981. We have had many problems with putting up th posters because many people do not believe it should be talked about. Including fellow members of our Irish cultural society. My family is split between orange and green so I also have felt the tension in my family of years gone by. I am a nationalist protestant and my wife is a nationalist catholic but I have to prove myself to the other members of the organization because of my roots. I am now on the board of our local chapter of the IRSP and it was by quoting a man similar in my roots, the great wolfe Tone

[ThunderbirdJet]

The problem with this statement is that your job will give you a bias view. Just like with my mom dealing with white people who sexually abused their children, depressed, on drugs, etc. Being in that type of environment will skew anyones view. The way I see it, there is garbage on both sides of the racetrack, and there is nothing you can do about it.

By no means do I think that there still isn't institutional racism agianst minority groups, there certainly is.... and on a lower, not econmically based environment like the one I experienced at the MTA. But, there in fact was also some economically based bias there too..... such as overtime availabilty, determined at the lower management level, which was also predominantly black.

I was just surprised that in an environment that tolerated black on white biases, how prevalent it was. I also noticed that blacks from the islands were much less likely to hold those prejudices. It was much more hard core amoung blacks for the US, and particularly NY. I have to guess much of that is a reaction to having been victimized by racism in their past. That's a pretty normal reaction I believe, as I had to work keep my biases from getting the better of me after getting victimized myself.

[BIG COUNTRY]

I am Irish and also am a historian on the topic. 800 years of oppresion lead to 1916 Easter Rising and the following "troubles" We are having a commemoration of the 90th anniversary and the 25th Hunger strike of 1981. We have had many problems with putting up th posters because many people do not believe it should be talked about. Including fellow members of our Irish cultural society. My family is split between orange and green so I also have felt the tension in my family of years gone by. I am a nationalist protestant and my wife is a nationalist catholic but I have to prove myself to the other members of the organization because of my roots. I am now on the board of our local chapter of the IRSP and it was by quoting a man similar in my roots, the great wolfe Tone
I am just like you, while most of my family is Irish Catholic, my uncle married an Orange woman from Belfast. So I have no sectarian blood in me. However there are still problems in Ireland even though there is a peace treaty. Last Saturday pro-IRA supporters rioted on O'Connell Street where the Easter Uprising happened. Bobby Sands 25th anniversary is soon. The USA and Canada has Irish influence wherever you go because of this oppression. My parents are immigrants and they sure as hell never had it easy. Sectaraianism has been a bigger problem post 1998 compared to before it. I just had to get that off my chest.

There is racism eevrywhere and on both sides, there is just not much we can do about it.

[Wolfe Tone]

I am just like you, while most of my family is Irish Catholic, my uncle married an Orange woman from Belfast. So I have no sectarian blood in me. However there are still problems in Ireland even though there is a peace treaty. Last Saturday pro-IRA supporters rioted on O'Connell Street where the Easter Uprising happened. Bobby Sands 25th anniversary is soon. The USA and Canada has Irish influence wherever you go because of this oppression. My parents are immigrants and they sure as hell never had it easy. Sectaraianism has been a bigger problem post 1998 compared to before it. I just had to get that off my chest.

There is racism eevrywhere and on both sides, there is just not much we can do about it.

Yeh I was really mad about the way the republicans were portrayed in the media, they were extremely villainized, thay had just cause to protest IMO, it would be similar to KKK parade in North America, the symbolism stands for oppresion. My family is republican nationalist on 3 sides and loyalist supporters on the other, they used to be Catholic but were bought off with tax breaks and land so I am ashamed of that side of the family.

I am excited, this will be the first Easter Rising celebration in my province as, well as the hunger strike of 81. I am reading the proclamation and reading Bobby Sands poetry. I am in an Irish band, I play the bodhran but my band has conflicting views so we will not be performing. The band that is playing is great though so it should be a good time. We have a loyalist pub in Regina, which I have been kicked out of for wearing republic soccer jersey, and we are hoping the owner does not show up and cause problems. It is strange that even in Canada there is tension

[BIG COUNTRY]

Yeh I was really mad about the way the republicans were portrayed in the media, they were extremely villainized, thay had just cause to protest IMO, it would be similar to KKK parade in North America, the symbolism stands for oppresion. My family is republican nationalist on 3 sides and loyalist supporters on the other, they used to be Catholic but were bought off with tax breaks and land so I am ashamed of that side of the family.

I am excited, this will be the first Easter Rising celebration in my province as, well as the hunger strike of 81. I am reading the proclamation and reading Bobby Sands poetry. I am in an Irish band, I play the bodhran but my band has conflicting views so we will not be performing. The band that is playing is great though so it should be a good time. We have a loyalist pub in Regina, which I have been kicked out of for wearing republic soccer jersey, and we are hoping the owner does not show up and cause problems. It is strange that even in Canada there is tension
I see what your saying, Im surprised it stretches as far as Canada. I have been in a few Republican pubs a few times in my life. The thing that annoyed me was there were even worse riots in the North by loyalists which hardly a peep was made. Now the Republican riots are all over the news. Thats pretty cool about the band you play in, I play the bagpipes and my friends who are in a band want to try and mix it up and see if we can put it together and make some catchy music. Not too far from my house in an area that strecthes betwen Yonkers + the Bronx is a very populated Irish neighborhood. We had Gerry Adams come down a lot and meet with people. Hopefully there will be no tension in your area.

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I see what your saying, Im surprised it stretches as far as Canada. I have been in a few Republican pubs a few times in my life. The thing that annoyed me was there were even worse riots in the North by loyalists which hardly a peep was made. Now the Republican riots are all over the news. Thats pretty cool about the band you play in, I play the bagpipes and my friends who are in a band want to try and mix it up and see if we can put it together and make some catchy music. Not too far from my house in an area that strecthes betwen Yonkers + the Bronx is a very populated Irish neighborhood. We had Gerry Adams come down a lot and meet with people. Hopefully there will be no tension in your area.

Yeh this event could trigger something but oh well, I guess I'll see when it comes. It does not happen alot here, we do not have a Sein Fein bar or anything like that just a regular Irish pub were everyone is welcome. The other place is anti-pretty much everything. This year with St. Patricks day on a Friday I think it will get ugly there with unkowing people walking in and asking for green beer and stuff like that. I have heard about that strech, is that where McSorely's ale house is, I have freinds who go to visit family sometimes there

You and your freinds should really get something going, have you heard of the Real McKenzies, they are a scottish band but they play traditional songs in the punk style. Dropkick Murphy's also have Spicy McHaggis on the pipes. There is always room for more Irish bands!

our band is called Rógairí which means rogue, we sound like a mix of Irish Rovers, Altan, and Wolfe Tones, depening on what were playing. I play the bodhran

we have:
male singer/guitar/mandolin
female singer/tin whistle
wood flute
fiddle
bodhran

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Yeh this event could trigger something but oh well, I guess I'll see when it comes. It does not happen alot here, we do not have a Sein Fein bar or anything like that just a regular Irish pub were everyone is welcome. The other place is anti-pretty much everything. This year with St. Patricks day on a Friday I think it will get ugly there with unkowing people walking in and asking for green beer and stuff like that. I have heard about that strech, is that where McSorely's ale house is, I have freinds who go to visit family sometimes there

You and your freinds should really get something going, have you heard of the Real McKenzies, they are a scottish band but they play traditional songs in the punk style. Dropkick Murphy's also have Spicy McHaggis on the pipes. There is always room for more Irish bands!

our band is called Rógairí which means rogue, we sound like a mix of Irish Rovers, Altan, and Wolfe Tones, depening on what were playing. I play the bodhran

we have:
male singer/guitar/mandolin
female singer/tin whistle
wood flute
fiddle
bodhran
McSorley's is in Manhatten, very good bar, the area Im referring to is in the Bronx, and in a small part of Yonkers. I love the Celtic punk bands, check out Black 47, they are very good live. My dad saw them in the pubs in the 80s and 90s. Your band sounds like it has a good mix, hopefully I'll get to hear more in the future:beer:

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McSorley's is in Manhatten, very good bar, the area Im referring to is in the Bronx, and in a small part of Yonkers. I love the Celtic punk bands, check out Black 47, they are very good live. My dad saw them in the pubs in the 80s and 90s. Your band sounds like it has a good mix, hopefully I'll get to hear more in the future:beer:

I have a black 47 cd, completely forgot about them. and wicked Tinkers they are good too. Thanks for the encouragement. Cheers