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[Dinobot 2]

ANyone see Lost tonight?

It was ok...

[Dinobot 2]

So I don't think Locke got that button pushed in time even though he reset it. I think it was too late. Looks like those symbols of the other Darhma stations.

[The Green Dude]

I think he got it... it started something then all of a sudden it shut off... decent episode all in all

[Dinobot 2]

I dunno.


And what was all about that Charlie stuff? What do you think Sayid meant?

[The Green Dude]

That i'm not sure... I hope charlie dies anyway, he needs to go. Isn't he dating Kate in real life?

[Dinobot 2]

yeah he is. ANd Charlie is one of my favorite characters. Don't know why.

[Dirtywater]

I dug tonight's episode. The Sayid storyline is good to me.

[Dinobot 2]

I hope everyone got that Sayid was traveling with Kate's father in the end flashback scene. Real quick he pulls out a picture of her.

[Pistol Pete]

Hey I missed tonite's episode. Does anyone anywhere online I can find it???

[plinko]

Not a great episode, you can tell because the following show more exciting.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

I was distracted while watching this last night and missed alot, I'll have to download it and watch it later today. The parts I did see didn't impress me, especially the predictable cop out with the clock running down to 0.

[ButtleMan]

My question is why is he so for torture now? He had to leave the group after torturing Sawyer but this was okay?
I'm not sure if I saw what I thing I saw but when Jack pulls Sayid off the guy it looked like a shot of the guys wounds healing. It was a quick shot.
Did anyone else notice this as well?

[LockDown24]

I really hoped that they would get at least some info out of the captive. Oh well, at least it looks like the next one should be good.

[GreenGiant 32]

It was an okay episode. Sayid's backstory while pointless was still entertaining. But I still can't get over how they completely bullshitted their way once again out of the countdown reaching zero, only to give an extra five second grace period in which to put in the code. Ugh! And can Jack just grow a pair already. I've never seen such a whiney little bitch before.

Next episode looks pretty good. But as we've seen time and time again with this series, looks can be deceiving. And regarding the preview to the next show. Anyone else find it hilarious that nobody on the island has come across a huge entrance that seems to be only covered by a few vines and leaves?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

It was an okay episode. Sayid's backstory while pointless was still entertaining. But I still can't get over how they completely bullshitted their way once again out of the countdown reaching zero, only to give an extra five second grace period in which to put in the code. Ugh! And can Jack just grow a pair already. I've never seen such a whiney little bitch before.

Next episode looks pretty good. But as we've seen time and time again with this series, looks can be deceiving. And regarding the preview to the next show. Anyone else find it hilarious that nobody on the island has come across a huge entrance that seems to be only covered by a few vines and leaves?

The answers are never coming. The most we get is a half assed fake out reveal that spawns dozens of more questions. And those are the GOOD episodes. All these "nods to the obsessive fans" are beginning to annoy me as they seem to be mostly irrelevant to anything other then to get people talking/speculating. The "numbers" and other stuff like that were interesting at first but have gone absolutely NOWHERE. Just like the hyroglyphic/symbols last night are interesting, but I'm sure they won't be explained or even discussed.

[ButtleMan]

The symbols looked to be the Dharma symbols of the other hatches.

[Dirtywater]

Let's figure this part out. When it went to zero we saw this:

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People are trying to figure out the meaning, but here is one:

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[Dirtywater]

About the 'other' captured guy, from another forum:

Our boy from Minnesota has no accent, eh? Sayid is right on the $, this boy is lying.

From a friend who reads up on the Lost boards:

Henry Gale, Dorothy's uncle from Wizard of Oz. Oz himself who ended up in Oz when his air balloon was caught in a storm.

Henry Gale was also an important physicist in the first half of the 20th century. He worked in the fields of astrophysics and in magnetism. He died 11-16-42.

[GreenGiant 32]

The answers are never coming. The most we get is a half assed fake out reveal that spawns dozens of more questions. And those are the GOOD episodes. All these "nods to the obsessive fans" are beginning to annoy me as they seem to be mostly irrelevant to anything other then to get people talking/speculating. The "numbers" and other stuff like that were interesting at first but have gone absolutely NOWHERE. Just like the hyroglyphic/symbols last night are interesting, but I'm sure they won't be explained or even discussed.

It's really like a never ending cocktease isn't it. We're offered up the promise almost ever week of learning something significant as to what the hell is going on on the island. Given cryptic clues that can lead down a million different paths.

Revealed enigmatic figures [Desmond/French Lady/CrazyBearded Guy] who come and go as they please, disppearing for huge stretches at a time. Shown incredibly interesting objects and creatures [Shawdow Monster/Polar Bear/Black Rock] that are quickly forgotten about and pushed aside all to further the character development to annoying assjockeys like Charlie and Jack. I really wouldn't be this angry if I didn't like the show so much either. The premise is just too good to go to waste.

Now to completely change the subject for a moment. Did anyone else notice the fact that it was Kate's dad that initially interrogated Sayid, and asked him if he had a wife and child when they were traveling in the truck together? He even showed a real picture of a younger Kate. I don't know how I could have possibly missed it at the time, but I did. And I didn't realize it until today when I read up on it. Interesting.

[ButtleMan]

That is Freaking amazing DIrtywater!

[GreenGiant 32]

I don't get it. The words/letters on the right are suppose to be the meaning of the symbols correct? What is this according to? And is SWD an abbreviation to sword, or a acronym to something else?

[Dinobot 2]

I was distracted while watching this last night and missed alot, I'll have to download it and watch it later today. The parts I did see didn't impress me, especially the predictable cop out with the clock running down to 0.


But I don't think it was set in time. I don't Locke made it and whatever happened happened. I mean maybe it's not noticable to them now. Doesn't have to be an explosion or somthing.... I bet there's some changes on the island now.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

there doesn't seem to be a consensus about the symbols. people are trying way too hard I think for something that is going to be completely irrelevant. one thing i've learned is that if its supposed to be a real clue the show is going to make it painfully obvious. i'm now convinced that they throw shit like this in to give people something to obsess over for a couple weeks, and that's it. if it was relevant to the plot/story then you can bet it would've been alot clearer then some arabic/hyroglyphic symbols that people still can't figure out.

the second panel is missing, so you can't really get a full translation anyway. the two popular theories seem to have it relating either to death or simply saying 'leave'

[Dinobot 2]

It was an okay episode. Sayid's backstory while pointless was still entertaining. But I still can't get over how they completely bullshitted their way once again out of the countdown reaching zero, only to give an extra five second grace period in which to put in the code. Ugh! And can Jack just grow a pair already. I've never seen such a whiney little bitch before.

Next episode looks pretty good. But as we've seen time and time again with this series, looks can be deceiving. And regarding the preview to the next show. Anyone else find it hilarious that nobody on the island has come across a huge entrance that seems to be only covered by a few vines and leaves?


Even though he reset it I think he never made it in time.


By the way. Two weeks untill the next new Lost. Newxt Wed will be the pilot. Which is kinda cool. The pilot was GREAT.

[Dinobot 2]

About the 'other' captured guy, from another forum:


That's very interesting DW.

[Dinobot 2]

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[Dinobot 2]

Updated schedule.

Episode 2.15: Maternity Leave : Episode Centric - Claire
Air Date: 01 March 06

Episode 2.16: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 22 March 06

Episode 2.17: Lockdown : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 29 March 06

Episode 2.18: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 05 April 06

Episode 2.19: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 26 April 06

Episode 2.20: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 03 May 06

Episode 2.21: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 10 May 06

Episode 2.22: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 17 May 06

Episode 2.23: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 24 May 06
This will be a 2 Hour Special

[ButtleMan]

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arent those the names of constellations.

[Dinobot 2]

It's somthing like that. Or it's hi-ro-glif-ics. (Have no idea how to spell that)

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Updated schedule.

Episode 2.15: Maternity Leave : Episode Centric - Claire
Air Date: 01 March 06

Episode 2.16: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 22 March 06

Episode 2.17: Lockdown : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 29 March 06

Episode 2.18: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 05 April 06

Episode 2.19: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 26 April 06

Episode 2.20: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 03 May 06

Episode 2.21: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 10 May 06

Episode 2.22: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 17 May 06

Episode 2.23: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 24 May 06
This will be a 2 Hour Special

utter horseshit

[ButtleMan]

Updated schedule.
1 week break
Episode 2.15: Maternity Leave : Episode Centric - Claire
Air Date: 01 March 06

3 week break
Episode 2.16: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 22 March 06

Episode 2.17: Lockdown : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 29 March 06

Episode 2.18: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 05 April 06

3 straight episodes then a 2 week break

Episode 2.19: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 26 April 06

Episode 2.20: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 03 May 06

Episode 2.21: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 10 May 06

Episode 2.22: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 17 May 06

Episode 2.23: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 24 May 06
This will be a 2 Hour Special

Breaks, breaks and more breaks.

[GreenGiant 32]

Updated schedule.

Episode 2.15: Maternity Leave : Episode Centric - Claire
Air Date: 01 March 06

Episode 2.16: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 22 March 06

Episode 2.17: Lockdown : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 29 March 06

Episode 2.18: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 05 April 06

Episode 2.19: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 26 April 06

Episode 2.20: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 03 May 06

Episode 2.21: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 10 May 06

Episode 2.22: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 17 May 06

Episode 2.23: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 24 May 06
This will be a 2 Hour Special

Two 3 week breaks? That's just terrible.

[Dinobot 2]

Eh. What can ya do. It's not THAT big a deal. WHy would you mind even waiting anyway....

[GreenGiant 32]

Eh. What can ya do. It's not THAT big a deal. WHy would you mind even waiting anyway....

Duh, so we can bitch and moan.

[Dinobot 2]

Duh, so we can bitch and moan.


Hahah I know, exactly.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Eh. What can ya do. It's not THAT big a deal. WHy would you mind even waiting anyway....

3 weeks between blue ballsing sessions is a long time to wait

[SettlerDawg]

Hate the breaks, but after the episode thats coming up in 2 weeks, I think we'll have a lot to talk about.

Can somebody quickly fill me in on what happened to Claire? She was kidnapped for two weeks and then she returned? How'd she have the baby?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

claire got taken, charlie went after her and got hung. jack went after charlie and revived him, then they gave up looking for claire. afterwards she wandered back into camp with amnesia.

[Dinobot 2]

I bet we see Ethan in the next episode.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

having watched it i actually think this was a pretty good episode. sayid can act which can't be said about certain major cast memebers.

about the guy that got captured, the dude is either a terrible actor or the writers wanted to make it abundantly clear that he is an "other". sayid left the pliers in the armory so you can bet he'll be escaping next episode.

i like the "evil group" they're setting up with sawyer, sayid and (ugh) charlie. jack is as unlikable as ever, not to mention he played the button scene way way over the top, i was expecting his eyes to pop outo f his head.

to end things on a suitably negative note, the "tree frog" scenes/plotline may have been the worst we've seen on the show yet.

[Dinobot 2]

Hahahah. Come on! Charlie kicks ass!

[Dinobot 2]

The preview in case you need it.

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[Dinobot 2]

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he hieroglyphics translate to "Cause to Die".

Sylvain has let me know that colour also plays a part in Egyptian hieroglyphics. The red colour being: symbol of "violence", "desert" and "death". The black colour being: symbol of "death" or "resurection". So from what we have so far this is going in the direction of death.

[Dinobot 2]

The TWO hour Pilot will be on this Wed. SHould be cool to watch that again. And after all this season 2 stuff I bet it will make people see that Lost has not changed at all.

[Pistol Pete]

Heh, the last commericial break during Freddie had a preview that said "Stay tuned for an all new Lost..."

[Dinobot 2]

Hah. Whoops.

Gotta love that Pilot episode. I still say there's somthing to Jack and his flying lessons. I think he may end up flying everyone outta there.

[Dinobot 2]

This is pretty funny. It's kinda old though.

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[ButtleMan]

Updated schedule.

Episode 2.15: Maternity Leave : Episode Centric - Claire
Air Date: 01 March 06



New episode tonight. Next new one is 3 weeks away so this better be good.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

I'm looking forward to that "The Hills Have Eyes" movie. It's a chance to see Claire tortured and hopefully killed, although since she seems to be the female lead she'll probably survive.

[NYJetFan37]

What is it with having a new episode then a break, new episode break, new episode break, grrrrrrr

[Dinobot 2]

I think they should have shown tonight's new episode last Wed and then gone ahead with the break. But it doesn't matter anymore I guess and we only have one last break.

Tonight's episode is supposed to change out views on the "others".

[GreenGiant 32]

I think they should have shown tonight's new episode last Wed and then gone ahead with the break. But it doesn't matter anymore I guess and we only have one last break.

Tonight's episode is supposed to change out views on the "others".

You mean two, don't you? As there is another three week break after episode 2:18. At least according to your post on page two of this thread.

[Dinobot 2]

You mean two, don't you? As there is another three week break after episode 2:18. At least according to your post on page two of this thread.


Episode 2.15: Maternity Leave : Episode Centric - Claire
Air Date: 01 March 06

Episode 2.16: The Whole Truth : Episode Centric - Sun & Jin
Air Date: 22 March 06

Episode 2.17: Lockdown : Episode Centric - Locke
Air Date: 29 March 06

Episode 2.18: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - Hurley
Air Date: 05 April 06

Episode 2.19: SOS : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 26 April 06

Episode 2.20: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 03 May 06

Episode 2.21: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 10 May 06

Episode 2.22: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 17 May 06

Episode 2.23: UNKNOWN : Episode Centric - UNKNOWN
Air Date: 24 May 06
This will be a 2 Hour Special




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[NYJetFan37]

Good Episode, I almost shit myself when Ecko put the knife to his throat

[Murrell2878]

I thought it was a great show!! Missed a little bit to see Chris on American Idol. Great show though, and loved the Claire flashbacks

[3rdAnd15Draw]

One of the worst episodes thus far. I mean, I know the acting you get on TV isn't always going to be top notch, but the characters this episode focused on are probably the worst on the show. We get Ethan drugged you Claire, you don't have to talk like a space cadet and laugh like a twit every 5 seconds. I'm also getting a little fed up with the "dramatic music" throughout the entire goddamn show. It's reaching laugh track levels of awfulness.

The hatch guy is awesome and the last scene with Locke was very well done. Only positive of the show(besides no dog face).

[17a_tailgater]

i want the BABY or claire to die or both.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

But hey, they really answered alot of questions tonight. I mean, the leader of the others wears a FAKE BEARD. What a reveal.

Tune in next month to find out which castaway hasn't been brushing regularly.

[ButtleMan]

I liked the episode but Claire is much better when she isnt whining about the baby.
I think that it showed that the others are putting on some kind of a "show". There is something or somewhere "backstage" Zeke is all nicely dressed and clean shaven as is Ethan. The are able to have various and unlimited supplies.
Its starting to remind me of "The Truman Show" but they arent showing the viewers watching.

[Dinobot 2]

Before I read anyone elses review I'm just gonna say that this episode was one of the best all season. It opened up TONS of doors. Man, I thought Eko was actually gonna kill himself.

[ButtleMan]

I didnt get the whole confession and cutting off the beard thing unless he believes that the captor is really one of the others.

[Dinobot 2]

One of the worst episodes thus far. I mean, I know the acting you get on TV isn't always going to be top notch, but the characters this episode focused on are probably the worst on the show. We get Ethan drugged you Claire, you don't have to talk like a space cadet and laugh like a twit every 5 seconds. I'm also getting a little fed up with the "dramatic music" throughout the entire goddamn show. It's reaching laugh track levels of awfulness.

The hatch guy is awesome and the last scene with Locke was very well done. Only positive of the show(besides no dog face).


What the **** is wrong with you? Ughhh. Just stop watching! STOP!!! DO you like to be the angry critic? Just give up on the show allready 3rd. Every episode you hate. Every ******* one.

[Dinobot 2]

I liked the episode but Claire is much better when she isnt whining about the baby.
I think that it showed that the others are putting on some kind of a "show". There is something or somewhere "backstage" Zeke is all nicely dressed and clean shaven as is Ethan. The are able to have various and unlimited supplies.
Its starting to remind me of "The Truman Show" but they arent showing the viewers watching.


Was that really Zeke though?

[Dinobot 2]

I didnt get the whole confession and cutting off the beard thing unless he believes that the captor is really one of the others.


Well Eko is one crazy guy....

[ButtleMan]

Was that really Zeke though?

Yes, it was.

[Dinobot 2]

Yes, it was.

And he seemed to be afraid of someone else even.....

[ButtleMan]

Yep, they kept referring to "him" He will be angry with this. Could it be the Dr. who started the experiments referred to in the movie?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

I didnt get the whole confession and cutting off the beard thing unless he believes that the captor is really one of the others.

Aside from the obvious "confessing/pennace for his sins" I had one other thought while watching this. It almost seemed like when he was talking about "being back on the righteous path" that he thinks he made a mistake by not letting the others take him from the beach and that he wanted them to know he should still be on the "good" list.

I think he absolutely believes the guy is one of the others and wouldn't be suprised to find both hatch guy and Eko gone in an upcoming episode.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

What the **** is wrong with you? Ughhh. Just stop watching! STOP!!! DO you like to be the angry critic? Just give up on the show allready 3rd. Every episode you hate. Every ******* one.

The main plot was very poorly done, especially for a show before a long break. "Hey, lets have the others clear everything out of the bunker and made every attempt to hide the bunker, except for closet fulls of ragged island gear, so when the people from the beach eventually find it, the viewers at home will get it". Very inconsistent and sloppy writing.

Gale is awesome and the conflict between Locke and Jack will be good, however the show seriously suffers from pandering to the women demographic. I imagine the upcoming "Can I have a pregnancy test Sawyer" from Sun will result in me finally punching out.

[ButtleMan]

Aside from the obvious "confessing/pennace for his sins" I had one other thought while watching this. It almost seemed like when he was talking about "being back on the righteous path" that he thinks he made a mistake by not letting the others take him from the beach and that he wanted them to know he should still be on the "good" list.

I think he absolutely believes the guy is one of the others and wouldn't be suprised to find both hatch guy and Eko gone in an upcoming episode.

I did think of that as well after I saw it.

[ButtleMan]

Gale is awesome and the conflict between Locke and Jack will be good,

That was the thing that leads me to believe that he is an other. His mission is to split the group and perhaps take Locke.

[GreenGiant 32]

Before I read anyone elses review I'm just gonna say that this episode was one of the best all season. It opened up TONS of doors. Man, I thought Eko was actually gonna kill himself.

Gulp, I agee with you Dino. I thought last night's episode was by far one of the best so far this season. I usually get where 3rd is coming from, and most of the time agree with him when an episode doesn't deliver. But damnit, last night's episode was fantastic. Can Claire act worth a shit? No. Am I happy they didn't reveal more? Of course not. But I was entertained! From start to finish. So I don't mind overlooking the little things.

And best of all... there were no backstories! Atleast none of the soap oprea variety we've become so accustomed to. God I hope they do away with those now. Didn't last night's episode flow so seemlessly when they kept the entire show on the Island? Too bad by the looks of the next episode we'll be back to the same mundane shit, and I'll be agreeing once again with 3rd.

[GreenGiant 32]

Gale is awesome and the conflict between Locke and Jack will be good, however the show seriously suffers from pandering to the women demographic. I imagine the upcoming "Can I have a pregnancy test Sawyer" from Sun will result in me finally punching out.

I got the complete opposite reaction to that scene. I thought it was way too contrived. Is Locke really gullible enough to let a simple sentence so violently impact him? How dumb can he be not to see that Gale is trying to drive a wedge inbetween him and Jack. I get the whole 'Locke doesn't like to be told what he can't do' crap. Maybe Jack even reminds him of the box factor bully. I don't give two shits. The writers spent so much time last year building him up into some superhuman wilderness man, who could smell fear. And now we're to believe he's not clever enough to figure out when someone is trying to play him?

Puleeze!

[GreenGiant 32]

And he seemed to be afraid of someone else even.....

Alvar Hanso [sp]?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Gulp, I agee with you Dino. I thought last night's episode was by far one of the best so far this season. I usually get where 3rd is coming from, and most of the time agree with him when an episode doesn't deliver. But damnit, last night's episode was fantastic. Can Claire act worth a shit? No. Am I happy they didn't reveal more? Of course not. But I was entertained! From start to finish. So I don't mind overlooking the little things.

And best of all... there were no backstories! Atleast none of the soap oprea variety we've become so accustomed to. God I hope they do away with those now. Didn't last night's episode flow so seemlessly when they kept the entire show on the Island? Too bad by the looks of the next episode we'll be back to the same mundane shit, and I'll be agreeing once again with 3rd.

I just couldn't get into 3 characters I could care less about going on a trek through the jungle. And the drugged Claire scenes were absolutely cringe worthy. The best "character" episodes this year have been Eko and Sayid, Eko because his character is interesting and we hadn't known much about him and Sayid because the guy can actually act.

As I said there were good parts of this episode but far far too few. The biggest thing that gets me though is the lack of continuity from episode to episode. I mean, where is Jack and Ana's goof troop army? Has that even been mentioned since it was the "climax" of an episode 2 months ago? What happened to Sawyer being an evil frog killing con man? Kate bats her eyelashes at him and he's giving her a gun. Please. And I'm sure for the next few episodes we won't even hear that they ended up finding a medical hatch when they went in the jungle.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

I got the complete opposite reaction to that scene. I thought it was way too contrived. Is Locke really gullible enough to let a simple sentence so violently impact him? How dumb can he be not to see that Gale is trying to drive a wedge inbetween him and Jack. I get the whole 'Locke doesn't like to be told what he can't do' crap. Maybe Jack even reminds him of the box factor bully. I don't give two shits. The writers spent so much time last year building him up into some superhuman wilderness man, who could smell fear. And now we're to believe he's not clever enough to figure out when someone is trying to play him?

Puleeze!

I'm willing to buy into the fact that Gale is some kind of behavioral specialist or that kind of scientist. Pretty much everyone on the island has deep seated psychological issues and it can't be too hard to figure out which buttons to push(or maybe he already knows?). I mean if you're going to accept that Sawyer is some kind of master con man(appears to me that he was only the "face") and can manipulate everyone on the island, I have no problem with Gale playing Locke and Jack against each other.

[GreenGiant 32]

Some valid complaints there, especially the last one. Although the majority is due to your own personal tastes. For example. I don't mind Kate and the French chck nearly as much as you do. So the episode didn't drag for me due to the fact that they were prominently featured. But to each his own, I guess. Although, I don't see future episodes being that much better than last night's.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

The Kate/French Chick "kill me" thing really bugged me. French Chick has a gun strapped on her back for crying out loud. Not only was it way out of left field but it strayed badly into melodrama.

Just as an aside, is it just me or does it feel like they first went down the original hatch about 3 seasons ago? I mean that was what, 10 episodes ago? I think the erratic scheduling really hurts the show, especially with the type of show it is.

[ButtleMan]

There was a back story it just was about something recent instead of years past or right before the flight.
I also do believe the Ethan was injecting some kind of vitamin or whatever to keep the baby well and not to do some harm to it.

[ShadeTree#55]

I think Locke is also pissed about losing control of the guns. Its a build up thing.

[Dinobot 2]

The main plot was very poorly done, especially for a show before a long break. "Hey, lets have the others clear everything out of the bunker and made every attempt to hide the bunker, except for closet fulls of ragged island gear, so when the people from the beach eventually find it, the viewers at home will get it". Very inconsistent and sloppy writing.

Gale is awesome and the conflict between Locke and Jack will be good, however the show seriously suffers from pandering to the women demographic. I imagine the upcoming "Can I have a pregnancy test Sawyer" from Sun will result in me finally punching out.


No way. And I'm sure the others left what they left because hey didn't really care about that junk. They only needed what was valuable.

The thing with Sun and her being pregnant is great. This is setting up a major plot for the next two seasons probably. It just seems like you hate everything about this show.

I don't get your women thing here....

[ButtleMan]

They want a baby or kids so they can groom. Claire rebuffed them but I think that turnip head will be kidnapped eventually,
Since it was shown as a coming attraction I will believe in the swerve where sun takes the test and finds out that she isnt pregnant.

[Dinobot 2]

Gulp, I agee with you Dino. I thought last night's episode was by far one of the best so far this season. I usually get where 3rd is coming from, and most of the time agree with him when an episode doesn't deliver. But damnit, last night's episode was fantastic. Can Claire act worth a shit? No. Am I happy they didn't reveal more? Of course not. But I was entertained! From start to finish. So I don't mind overlooking the little things.

And best of all... there were no backstories! Atleast none of the soap oprea variety we've become so accustomed to. God I hope they do away with those now. Didn't last night's episode flow so seemlessly when they kept the entire show on the Island? Too bad by the looks of the next episode we'll be back to the same mundane shit, and I'll be agreeing once again with 3rd.


Hmmm I doubt they do away with the backstories. I was kinda mad they didn't have one for Clair cause we don't know much about her. Her and Michael aren't really involved with much in the backstories. But it was somthing they had to do for this cause we just had tosee what happened to her during those two weeks.

[Dinobot 2]

I just couldn't get into 3 characters I could care less about going on a trek through the jungle. And the drugged Claire scenes were absolutely cringe worthy. The best "character" episodes this year have been Eko and Sayid, Eko because his character is interesting and we hadn't known much about him and Sayid because the guy can actually act.

As I said there were good parts of this episode but far far too few. The biggest thing that gets me though is the lack of continuity from episode to episode. I mean, where is Jack and Ana's goof troop army? Has that even been mentioned since it was the "climax" of an episode 2 months ago? What happened to Sawyer being an evil frog killing con man? Kate bats her eyelashes at him and he's giving her a gun. Please. And I'm sure for the next few episodes we won't even hear that they ended up finding a medical hatch when they went in the jungle.


I think the actings fine man....

Wow......

[Dinobot 2]

There was a back story it just was about something recent instead of years past or right before the flight.
I also do believe the Ethan was injecting some kind of vitamin or whatever to keep the baby well and not to do some harm to it.


By the way.... Isn't there more of that medicine in the Hatch. Desmond was injecting it to himself. And when he ran away he grabbed some but I think not all of it. Why hasn't anyone checked out what that stuff is. It's the same stuff I'm sure...

[ButtleMan]

It has been awhile since Michael left and everyone seems to have forgotten about him.
His annoying Walt screams have been taken over by Claire & the baby, the baby, the baby line.
Everytime I hear that I think of the Seinfeld episode where they are at a house party and Elaine says to some woman in an Australian accent "Maybe the Dingo ate your baby"

[tcrock]

I just couldn't get into 3 characters I could care less about going on a trek through the jungle. And the drugged Claire scenes were absolutely cringe worthy. The best "character" episodes this year have been Eko and Sayid, Eko because his character is interesting and we hadn't known much about him and Sayid because the guy can actually act.

As I said there were good parts of this episode but far far too few. The biggest thing that gets me though is the lack of continuity from episode to episode. I mean, where is Jack and Ana's goof troop army? Has that even been mentioned since it was the "climax" of an episode 2 months ago? What happened to Sawyer being an evil frog killing con man? Kate bats her eyelashes at him and he's giving her a gun. Please. And I'm sure for the next few episodes we won't even hear that they ended up finding a medical hatch when they went in the jungle.

jeez it's just a tv show.........

for a person that has such disdain....you certainly are on top of every detail....a glutton for punishment heh? guess so, you hate the Mets/Jets and still watch them too..........just bustin chops

[3rdAnd15Draw]

It has been awhile since Michael left and everyone seems to have forgotten about him.
His annoying Walt screams have been taken over by Claire & the baby, the baby, the baby line.
Everytime I hear that I think of the Seinfeld episode where they are at a house party and Elaine says to some woman in an Australian accent "Maybe the Dingo ate your baby"

haha. or when they go out to long island(i think its the shrinkage episode). jerry, you've gotta come see the BABY in the annoying long island accent.

[Angry Teste]

I missed the last episode of "Lost".

Anyone know where I can go download it?

[BadgerOnLSD]

KATE DIES













































Just kidding.

But seriously, I don't know where to DL it.

[Double Zero]

Was that the one on March 1st? If it is, I have it and should share it via AIM or something like that if you wanted.

[Royal Tee]

U Got PM ! :wink:

[Dinobot 2]

New Podcast.

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[SOWELLisGOD]

lost = best show on television...just got season 1 on DVDs from my girlfriend...great to watch the characters when they first crashed

[Dinobot 2]

So you haven't seen any of season 2?

[NYJetFan37]

So you haven't seen any of season 2?

Apparently not since he is still calling it the best show on TV

[Dinobot 2]

Apparently not since he is still calling it the best show on TV


Blah blah blah.....

[Dinobot 2]

Well there's no new episode of Lost on tonight but there is a new episode of Invasion which I do like to watch. So at least there's somthing good to watch tonight.

[ShadeTree#55]

Black and White starts tonight.

[Dinobot 2]

Oh yeah. I kinda wanted to check that out. I'll Tivo it.

[NYJetFan37]

No new Lost tonight? Thought there was, this has to be affecting the ratings somehow

[3rdAnd15Draw]

No new Lost tonight? Thought there was, this has to be affecting the ratings somehow

Not for 3 weeks

[l3ol3o]

This is starting to piss me off. They take just about every other damn week off. This season has been going on forever and we've only seen a few episodes. Anyone else fustrated by the lack of new episodes?

[ButtleMan]

After this hiatus its all new episodes until the end of the season.

[Dinobot 2]

This is starting to piss me off. They take just about every other damn week off. This season has been going on forever and we've only seen a few episodes. Anyone else fustrated by the lack of new episodes?


Don't get mad at the show or the producers. It's ABC that's doing it.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Don't get mad at the show or the producers. It's ABC that's doing it.

lost is a pretty big show. they could make some demands.

look at 24

[Dinobot 2]

lost is a pretty big show. they could make some demands.

look at 24


Maybe they will for next season. Afterall, Season 1 had breaks too but they weren't like this year. They were longer breaks which is somthing I don't really mind. A break around christmass is fine for me.

You can either do what Prisonbreak did. Which is like take a 3 month break. Starting in Sep....

You can do 24 and just start the season in Jan.

Or Lost which is start is Sep and take breaks during tehs eason.

Personally I wouldn't want a series I watch start in Jan. I just don't like that. And breaks add to the suspense and thinking about thes eries. Of course the scheduling in season 1 was better than it has been this year. Hopefully they get on track moe with Season 3.

[The Green Dude]

good i thought i missed the episode

[Dinobot 2]

2:16 The Whole Truth - Jin/sun episode - March 22
2:17 Lockdown - Locke based ep - March 29
2:18 Dave - ??? - April 5th
2:19 S.O.S - ??? - April 19th

Check out the interviews on this site.

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[Angry Teste]

What was the title of the last newly aired episode of "Lost"

I am having problems figuring out which one it was on torrent...

a direct link to the episode would be most helpful...

thanks

[Angry Teste]

please post a link. This torrent site isn't very helpful, Ireally need someone to post a link to the page with that episode for download.

[Dinobot 2]

Maternity Leave.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

good week for tv. prison break is coming back on monday as well

[NYJetFan37]

New lost this week or next week?

Prison break really soured on me the way they left off, "oops! they replaced the pipes, no escape, see you in March folks!"

[Angry Teste]

Just saw the most recent episode. My fiance pointed out the whole taking the vaccine and whats-his-name from the "hatch " injecting it too. Dino is th eonly one who mentioned it, and you guys let it go with 3rdAnd15's comments of clarity.

My fiance also pointed out that the "mobile" above the crib plays the same music as the video of the Dharma Initiative...

Claire needs to die.

Nice there was no dog-face. (sorry Dino-we know you have some kind of "man-love" for her):lol:

[Angry Teste]

Off topic--I'm being told to change my avatar from bouncing boobs...I just ca't bring her here anymore...

[Dinobot 2]

Can't wait for Prison Break tonight.

Oh and 3rd and others. This may help shed light on the Lost reruns.....

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[l3ol3o]

Can't wait for Prison Break tonight.

Oh and 3rd and others. This may help shed light on the Lost reruns.....

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I understand why they are doing it but they are starting to walk on thin ice. Im starting to forget what happened the previous episode and they are really starting to drag this season out. Wtf happened to Michael? He left what seems like a year ago. They they need speed things up and get the viewers hooked again or else they are going to have to watch their ratings drop.

[Dinobot 2]

So I mean. It looks like they have no choice. It's the way it has to be.

[Dinobot 2]

I understand why they are doing it but they are starting to walk on thin ice. Im starting to forget what happened the previous episode and they are really starting to drag this season out. Wtf happened to Michael? He left what seems like a year ago. They they need speed things up and get the viewers hooked again or else they are going to have to watch their ratings drop.


He went out for Walt in the episode "The Hunting Party". The episode when we saw Mr. Friendly and a bunch of the others hiding in bushes... I actually have all the episodes on my Tivo. These last two weeks Iv'e been watching all 15 again in order. So maybe that's how I'm not angry like you all. I suggest you record and do what I do.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

watching some of the season 2 episodes again might just make a person angrier :)

[l3ol3o]

So I mean. It looks like they have no choice. It's the way it has to be.

Well they do have a choice, They just want to get the highest ratings possible and this is why they are spreading them out so much. The sweeps for April and May are coming up so hopefully we will have less reruns. I also hope they start the next season later so we have less reruns.

[Dinobot 2]

watching some of the season 2 episodes again might just make a person angrier :)


Or maybe not. Watching these episodes again make me like the series more. At least you can't bitch about the way Lost shows episodes anymore. Bitch at ABC. And Fox ain't no great channel either. They have killed more shows with thier stupid scheduling than... Than uhhh. I can't think of a good one.

[Dinobot 2]

Well they do have a choice, They just want to get the highest ratings possible and this is why they are spreading them out so much. The sweeps for April and May are coming up so hopefully we will have less reruns. I also hope they start the next season later so we have less reruns.


But they don't really because of filming. Blame ABC if anything.

[Dinobot 2]

New Podcast.

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More talks about the reruns.

[Dinobot 2]

Ohh finally. The wait is over. Just several hours more and it's go time!!!

[ShadeTree#55]

I'll have to tape it. NYR vs Philly is the biggest game in the history of organized sports.

[The Green Dude]

So that prisioner is one of the "others"?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

it's official, the next week previews are actually better then the hour long shows. of course i'm sure they'll figure out a way to totally cop out of anything interesting happening next week.

[Dinobot 2]

So that prisioner is one of the "others"?


Still can't be too sure of that. That's what the may want us to believe after seeing that.

[Dinobot 2]

it's official, the next week previews are actually better then the hour long shows. of course i'm sure they'll figure out a way to totally cop out of anything interesting happening next week.


Blah blah blah blah blah. It was a good episode.

[17a_tailgater]

Blah blah blah blah blah. It was a good episode.
you have got to be kidding me. that was an hour of nothing

this show has dropped off considerably.

can somebody send an email or write a aletter. I will sign it

[Paddock]

on the preview, they were under a smiley face balloon... so who knows

[Dinobot 2]

you have got to be kidding me. that was an hour of nothing

this show has dropped off considerably.

can somebody send an email or write a aletter. I will sign it


It was fun finding out about Sun and Jin.


Once again. The show won't ever change. If it always disapoints you guys then stop watchin.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

you have got to be kidding me. that was an hour of nothing

this show has dropped off considerably.

can somebody send an email or write a aletter. I will sign it

Come on now, be fair. There were a couple good commercials in there.

[Dinobot 2]

Come on now, be fair. There were a couple good commercials in there.


It was fun watching Jin and Sun in the whole Korea envireoment. Seeing how Charlie's character is shanging. Anna and Sayid.... It was a nice episode!!!

[Dirtywater]

Blah blah blah blah blah. It was a good episode.

Dino, I am a big fan of the show, but this was a colossal waste of time. Just complete crap. And no joke, the "next week" preview was better than the hour episode.

I'm not going anywhere, but I'm calling them out when they deserve to be, and tonight was beyond bad.

[kinghenry89]

I personally love the Jin/Sun episodes. I think that Daniel Dae Kim is my favorite actor on the show, for one reason: Jin doesn't speak English, so he doesn't get the chance to annoy me.

[ShadeTree#55]

It was good, just watched it.

[Dinobot 2]

Haha!

Ok 3rd.

So I guess that makes it 3 for and 3 nay right now.

3rd and I were also talking about when all that crazy alarm hatch shit will go down in the next episode. 3rd said in the last few minutes of the show. I said 30 minutes into the show.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Haha!

Ok 3rd.

So I guess that makes it 3 for and 3 nay right now.

3rd and I were also talking about when all that crazy alarm hatch shit will go down in the next episode. 3rd said in the last few minutes of the show. I said 30 minutes into the show.

There's no accounting for taste. Although I suppose if you're big into soap operas and Lifetime last night's show would seem pretty good.

[17a_tailgater]

dino, you and the show have both gone soft.your protecting the show like a mother would defend a cowarding 15 year old.

[Angry Teste]

I agree with your comment 17a.

My opinion of last nights episode....


sucked.

SO who wants to bet that the baby is Mikes?

[ButtleMan]

dino, you and the show have both gone soft.your protecting the show like a mother would defend a cowarding 15 year old.

No, more like how Junc defends the Jets and the Yankees.

Sorry Dino, I am on the crap episode side on this.
I thought it was horrible. I do understand that the pregnancy does give something towards future story lines but the episode was boring.
I really dont care if Jin shoots blanks. What I do care about is how characters change from episode to episode. Jin goes back to the demanding husband and then "cares" at the end.
Sawyer just gives up the pregnancy test and he lets Charlie keep a gun.
The only thing that was good was Gale's description for sabatoge while eating cereal and Jack/Locke's reaction to it.

First the Soprano's and now Lost. The only 2 shows that I make sure I watch.
It has been a very dissapointing week for me. :sad:

[3rdAnd15Draw]

No, more like how Junc defends the Jets and the Yankees.

Sorry Dino, I am on the crap episode side on this.
I thought it was horrible. I do understand that the pregnancy does give something towards future story lines but the episode was boring.
I really dont care if Jin shoots blanks. What I do care about is how characters change from episode to episode. Jin goes back to the demanding husband and then "cares" at the end.
Sawyer just gives up the pregnancy test and he lets Charlie keep a gun.
The only thing that was good was Gale's description for sabatoge while eating cereal and Jack/Locke's reaction to it.

First the Soprano's and now Lost. The only 2 shows that I make sure I watch.
It has been a very dissapointing week for me. :sad:

You hit it pretty much on the head. There is absolutely NO consistency between the episodes or how the characters act. The show has turned into a collection of short stories about people on the island rather then, you know, a TV show. Before this episode Sun and Jin were on good terms, but of course at the start of this Jin starts acting like season 1 Jin for no apparent reason, then by the end he's back to loving Jin. Ugh.

Same thing happened in Sawyers episode. He's been a wise cracking more or less good natured guy for about a year now, and on his episode he turns into this evil schemer taking all the guns etc. Of course since then we've seen him turn back into the wise cracking good natured guy. You can really tell its a bunch of different writers working on the show.

[17a_tailgater]

when the show started my wife asked me about sun getting kidnapped b/c she missed that episode.I told her charlie did it but couldn't describe more.

that's the problem no consistency repeat episodes who do they think they are?
the NY Post had ana rticle about Lost viewers are down 13% while 24 is up 20%.and its b/c 24 never does repeats, it lets you know you better catch the show or you will miss out.do you think it would be a big deal if you missed last nite episode?

[Dinobot 2]

dino, you and the show have both gone soft.your protecting the show like a mother would defend a cowarding 15 year old.


That's not true at all. My opinion on the show hasn't changed at all. I think it's the same as last season. I don't see the difference. The difference to 3rd is that all the chacaters have allready had back stories and now they bore him. I don't look at it that way.

Well. These guys can make the show just for me then. I don't know what to tall ya.

[Angry Teste]

still no one thinks the baby is Mikes? bah!

I think we all agree that we are done with the flashbacks.

On the Sopranos note, if there are any more dream sequences I'm gonna kill someone. I simply walk out of the room and make a blooody mary when the sequences start. Needless to say-I get drunk pretty fast, which doesn't help my disposition regarding those sequences by the end of the show. There are reasons why I stay away from TGG when watching Sopranos...I could easily get a suspension...

[3rdAnd15Draw]

still no one thinks the baby is Mikes? bah!

I think we all agree that we are done with the flashbacks.

On the Sopranos note, if there are any more dream sequences I'm gonna kill someone. I simply walk out of the room and make a blooody mary when the sequences start. Needless to say-I get drunk pretty fast, which doesn't help my disposition regarding those sequences by the end of the show. There are reasons why I stay away from TGG when watching Sopranos...I could easily get a suspension...

Come on, Sun is not that stupid. When the kid comes out golden brown I think the jig would be up. If the kid is not Jin's it's the guy she learned English from.

[Dinobot 2]

still no one thinks the baby is Mikes? bah!

I think we all agree that we are done with the flashbacks.



No way....

[Dinobot 2]

Come on, Sun is not that stupid. When the kid comes out golden brown I think the jig would be up. If the kid is not Jin's it's the guy she learned English from.


How could the kid be that guys? That was over 50 days ago. I don't think so. She slept with Jin about 10 days ago. It fits fine. The baby is Jins.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

How could the kid be that guys? That was over 50 days ago. I don't think so. She slept with Jin about 10 days ago. It fits fine. The baby is Jins.

Morning sickness after 10 days? I'm no expert but that sounds highly improbable to me.

[Dinobot 2]

Morning sickness after 10 days? I'm no expert but that sounds highly improbable to me.


10- 14. Oh yeah.

You think it be 50?! Nah. It's about 2 weeks.

[Dinobot 2]

Well I think the show isn't trying to go by the book of the whole morning sickness thing. They just wanted to put that in as soon as they could. It takes about a couple of weeks.

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[Angry Teste]

^I think your link proves MY point. Sorry Charlie, but Jin wasn't around to get her prego...(of couse, Mike wasn't either...)

She seems WAY too worried about Jin finding out. The apprehension can only be explained by the baby being Mikes...Dun Dun Dun...

[Angry Teste]

When you are watching the reruns-see if you can pick up on anything...

[GreenGiant 32]

Blah episode, don't even feel like getting that in-depth as to why I thought it was so bland. I concur wholeheartedly with those that said the previews were much more entertaining than the show itself.

On a side-note, for those paying super close attention. Anyone hear the voice at the end of last night's preview. The one that quickly says "What happend?" Sounds like the return of Desmond to me. Can't wait.

[Dinobot 2]

^I think your link proves MY point. Sorry Charlie, but Jin wasn't around to get her prego...(of couse, Mike wasn't either...)

She seems WAY too worried about Jin finding out. The apprehension can only be explained by the baby being Mikes...Dun Dun Dun...


I have recently. That kind of think would never fit into this show. There's just no way. Besides Sun told Jin she never has been with anyone else. The miracle stuff also works into the powers of the island.

[Dinobot 2]

On a side-note, for those paying super close attention. Anyone hear the voice at the end of last night's preview. The one that quickly says "What happend?" Sounds like the return of Desmond to me. Can't wait.


I thought that was him as well.

[Dinobot 2]

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What Jin could not understand.



From Sledges Site

In Fire + Water there was a sign in the London Skyline for Widmore Construction. The sign turned out to be illegible, but it is known from the official podcast that this sign was posted in the episode. In "The Whole Truth", Sun obtains a pregnancy testing kit from Sawyer, which is labeled Widmore Labs. Is it possible that Widmore Corp/Labs is working with the Dharma Initiative and/or Hanso? We'll have to wait for more information to be sure. Remember, Michael has worked in construction in the past.

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Hmmm. I also noticed that Jessie has eddited my message. Hahah.

Another forum bug.

[Dinobot 2]

Actually that whole Desmond idea is not true after I watched the Canadian preview.

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I think the American ones are better. I wonder why the do it differently.

[Dinobot 2]

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I disagree. If The Practice can go 8 season and Boston Public can go 4 then I think Lost can certainly go 5 seasons.

[NYJetFan37]

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I disagree. If The Practice can go 8 season and Boston Public can go 4 then I think Lost can certainly go 5 seasons.

I never watched the practice, but after the first season, Boston Public was scratching for ideas, and the last two the ratings plummeted and it was sent to Friday TV hell....

[Dinobot 2]

I never watched the practice, but after the first season, Boston Public was scratching for ideas, and the last two the ratings plummeted and it was sent to Friday TV hell....


I know. A show about a school would be hard to keep up. And four seasons?! I watched them all too. Season 4 was really getting crazy. The Practice went 8 seasons. I never got tired of the whole court thing. So I think Naveen just doesn't know where the show Lost could really go. There a MANY ways to go with this show still. The creators said they were thinking of 5 seasons. I'm sure they have it all planned out allready.

[NYJetFan37]

I know. A show about a school would be hard to keep up. And four seasons?! I watched them all too. Season 4 was really getting crazy. The Practice went 8 seasons. I never got tired of the whole court thing. So I think Naveen just doesn't know where the show Lost could really go. There a MANY ways to go with this show still. The creators said they were thinking of 5 seasons. I'm sure they have it all planned out allready.

I kind of agree with him though, they haven't done anything this season except try to stretch out the story more, all we found out(will find out) this season is what was in the hatch and how the plane crashed. The show probably isn't meant to last long, either they all die or get rescued. I never watched the X Files, but I believe this is the same thing I heard that show did, just stretched the story out until ratings dropped and they basically tried to answer as many questions as they could leaving some unanswered.

[NYJetFan37]

OH, and Boston Public went crazy sometime by the end of the first season, after school shooting, sex episode, drug episode, there isn't very much left to do

[Dinobot 2]

I kind of agree with him though, they haven't done anything this season except try to stretch out the story more, all we found out(will find out) this season is what was in the hatch and how the plane crashed. The show probably isn't meant to last long, either they all die or get rescued. I never watched the X Files, but I believe this is the same thing I heard that show did, just stretched the story out until ratings dropped and they basically tried to answer as many questions as they could leaving some unanswered.


I think a a bridge between two gaps would be better words to describe season 2. Alot of Season 2 was essential to put in with the people from the other side of the island and their story. That had to take up alot of time. Everyone's thinking that theres not much left to do on this show. I believe they are wrong. I can see big changes that could happen with the show. I think eventually there will be a mass killing of the Lost population that will take the survivors from 40ish to the teens to tighten up the whole Lost world. I think there could be lots more of Lost travel. Iv'e seen the maps from other web sites and there is alot of unexplored land and even a couple small islands that lay next to the one they live on. We still don't know shit about the others. And I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that hasn't even been introduced yet. I have faith that the series won't be doing the same thing over and over again each season. That's the thing. Cause you guys think it will be the same. There could be another plane crash with more people. Who knows...

[Dinobot 2]

OH, and Boston Public went crazy sometime by the end of the first season, after school shooting, sex episode, drug episode, there isn't very much left to do


Season 2 was actually really good too. I thought the best out of the 4. I think they started to lose it after season 3.

[NYJetFan37]

Season 2 was actually really good too. I thought the best out of the 4. I think they started to lose it after season 3.

It got bad to me once Jerri Ryan joined the cast

[Dinobot 2]

It got bad to me once Jerri Ryan joined the cast


No way! She was great! You don't like her?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

I think a a bridge between two gaps would be better words to describe season 2. Alot of Season 2 was essential to put in with the people from the other side of the island and their story. That had to take up alot of time. Everyone's thinking that theres not much left to do on this show. I believe they are wrong. I can see big changes that could happen with the show. I think eventually there will be a mass killing of the Lost population that will take the survivors from 40ish to the teens to tighten up the whole Lost world. I think there could be lots more of Lost travel. Iv'e seen the maps from other web sites and there is alot of unexplored land and even a couple small islands that lay next to the one they live on. We still don't know shit about the others. And I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that hasn't even been introduced yet. I have faith that the series won't be doing the same thing over and over again each season. That's the thing. Cause you guys think it will be the same. There could be another plane crash with more people. Who knows...

The problems with Lost are myriad. First and foremost would be the continued use of the flashbacks. Second up is the ridiculously bloated cast.

Both of these can be traced back to the fact that Lost was originally only supposed to last a season. The flashbacks worked in season 1 as a way to connect the characters and get some idea of what they were like before they were on the island. They've totally fallen flat in season 2, with the exception of the Eko flashback.

The cast is probably the single biggest problem with Lost right now though. Again, in season 1 they were able to somewhat pull off having each episode focus on a different "main" character, both because we learned important background information about the character, and because the plot was advancing at an acceptable rate. Neither holds true for season 2. Instead we have 15 or so disjointed episodes, perambulating through about 10 days real time on the island. Supposed main characters go 6 or 7 episodes without saying a line, or only show up to be caught secretly eating food, or crying about the baby it's just awful.

I mean, its almost like each episode is a little spinoff show featuring the flashback character. You have an awesome Eko episode, and we've basically seen NOTHING of him since. We had dogface shoved down our throats for about a month only to see her role reduced to awkwardly flirting with Jack. Kate hasn't done anything in season 2 except make moon eyes at Sawyer. During Sawyers episode it sets him up as an evil motherfucker and then of course next week he's back to being the "sweet bad boy" UGH.

I could write alot more but I'm going to cut it off here. I like your mass killing idea alot Dino, and at this point killing off a bunch of the "main" characters is probably the only way this show is going to be able to keep going.

[Dinobot 2]

The problems with Lost are myriad. First and foremost would be the continued use of the flashbacks. Second up is the ridiculously bloated cast.

Both of these can be traced back to the fact that Lost was originally only supposed to last a season. The flashbacks worked in season 1 as a way to connect the characters and get some idea of what they were like before they were on the island. They've totally fallen flat in season 2, with the exception of the Eko flashback.

The cast is probably the single biggest problem with Lost right now though. Again, in season 1 they were able to somewhat pull off having each episode focus on a different "main" character, both because we learned important background information about the character, and because the plot was advancing at an acceptable rate. Neither holds true for season 2. Instead we have 15 or so disjointed episodes, perambulating through about 10 days real time on the island. Supposed main characters go 6 or 7 episodes without saying a line, or only show up to be caught secretly eating food, or crying about the baby it's just awful.

I mean, its almost like each episode is a little spinoff show featuring the flashback character. You have an awesome Eko episode, and we've basically seen NOTHING of him since. We had dogface shoved down our throats for about a month only to see her role reduced to awkwardly flirting with Jack. Kate hasn't done anything in season 2 except make moon eyes at Sawyer. During Sawyers episode it sets him up as an evil motherfucker and then of course next week he's back to being the "sweet bad boy" UGH.

I could write alot more but I'm going to cut it off here. I like your mass killing idea alot Dino, and at this point killing off a bunch of the "main" characters is probably the only way this show is going to be able to keep going.


Last one season? I don't think so man. The creators said they are shooting for 4. Find me an article where it says one season.

The cast is a problem? Jesus. I love the cast. I love everything you think is a big problem. I don't know why. I think these guys are doing great. I wouldn't have selected Michelle for Anna Lucia. But that's basically it. And with such a big cast it's reasonable to have an episode or two withought one of the main characters in it. I find that as a nice break to check out someone else for a change. Although I think it's been long enough withought Michael. He should return soon. They did this in season 1 with Sayid. He was out for like 2 episodes after his French chick episode. And that's just one example.

And Anna Lucia hasn't been in the that many scenes honestly man. After the whole "reunion" She's barely been a factor untill last weeks episode. I don't know how many times you guys have watched these eopisodes. One? I have the whole seasoon on my Tivo and have watched them all about 3 or maybe even 4 times. The only reason you liked that Eko episode is cause youv'e never seen one before. But the next time we have an Eko centric episode you will just moan and groin. I think taking the flashback scenes out of the show all together would be bad. Maybe if it's a special occation but not permanent.

And who knows. Maybe some of the extras will become leads. They could be replaced with big time actors of course. I only know what a couple of the extras really look like. I think there's a reason there are so many extras on the show. Otherwise it just be a hassle if it were for nothing.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Last one season? I don't think so man. The creators said they are shooting for 4. Find me an article where it says one season.

The cast is a problem? Jesus. I love the cast. I love everything you think is a big problem. I don't know why. I think these guys are doing great. I wouldn't have selected Michelle for Anna Lucia. But that's basically it. And with such a big cast it's reasonable to have an episode or two withought one of the main characters in it. I find that as a nice break to check out someone else for a change. Although I think it's been long enough withought Michael. He should return soon. They did this in season 1 with Sayid. He was out for like 2 episodes after his French chick episode. And that's just one example.

And Anna Lucia hasn't been in the that many scenes honestly man. After the whole "reunion" She's barely been a factor untill last weeks episode. I don't know how many times you guys have watched these eopisodes. One? I have the whole seasoon on my Tivo and have watched them all about 3 or maybe even 4 times. The only reason you liked that Eko episode is cause youv'e never seen one before. But the next time we have an Eko centric episode you will just moan and groin. I think taking the flashback scenes out of the show all together would be bad. Maybe if it's a special occation but not permanent.

And who knows. Maybe some of the extras will become leads. They could be replaced with big time actors of course. I only know what a couple of the extras really look like. I think there's a reason there are so many extras on the show. Otherwise it just be a hassle if it were for nothing.

Most of the cast can't act but that's not really what I was saying. It's impossible to tell a coherent story with any kind of realistic pacing when you're constantly shifting the focus around from 12 or 14 main characters. They should pick 4 or 5 or maybe less as the main characters and relegate the rest of the undeveloped and uninteresting characters to supporting roles where they belong, rather then wasting an hour on them every other week.

[Dinobot 2]

Most of the cast can't act but that's not really what I was saying. It's impossible to tell a coherent story with any kind of realistic pacing when you're constantly shifting the focus around from 12 or 14 main characters. They should pick 4 or 5 or maybe less as the main characters and relegate the rest of the undeveloped and uninteresting characters to supporting roles where they belong, rather then wasting an hour on them every other week.


That's why sometimes a character or two aren't in the episode. Even Jack isn't in all of them.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

That's why sometimes a character or two aren't in the episode. Even Jack isn't in all of them.

That's why there's no continuity on the show.

[Dinobot 2]

That's why there's no continuity on the show.


Personally I like it when some have a few episodes off.

[Dinobot 2]

Ok this Dharma video has got to be fake. This girl really annoys the hell outta me. It's hard to tell enough with this bad resolution.

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[3rdAnd15Draw]

bunch of psychopaths that watch this show. all this fake stuff is constantly released on the internet

[Dinobot 2]

bunch of psychopaths that watch this show. all this fake stuff is constantly released on the internet


And you know what was wrong with it. It was the girl and her acting. You can easily tell she's reading that whole think off some cards. The back drop isn't even that bad. Another easy give away is that they make way too many glitches in it.

Why does that web site post it as news though? Kinda bull shit if you ask me. Check out the main site and scroll down.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

And you know what was wrong with it. It was the girl and her acting. You can easily tell she's reading that whole think off some cards. The back drop isn't even that bad. Another easy give away is that they make way too many glitches in it.

Why does that web site post it as news though? Kinda bull shit if you ask me. Check out the main site and scroll down.

Yeah her diction in the clip is way too forced. She pauses a second after each word. Reeks of an amateur production.

[Dinobot 2]

Make you appreaciate the show more? :)

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Make you appreaciate the show more? :)

Hey I don't ask alot. I enjoy both Prison Break and 24 with all their ridiculous and contrived plot twists. Lost has turned into a womanly soap opera.

[Dinobot 2]

Lost has turned into a womanly soap opera.


Boooo! Hissss!

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Boooo! Hissss!

I'd be interested to see the demographic ratings for Lost, I wonder if they have it online anywhere.

[Dinobot 2]

I'd be interested to see the demographic ratings for Lost, I wonder if they have it online anywhere.


I may be pulling this outta my ass but i'd say in the top 3.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

I may be pulling this outta my ass but i'd say in the top 3.

I mean the breakdowns, how well it does with 18-34 males and females etc.

[SettlerDawg]

They advertise women's products during the comercials, so you kinda get the sense that the majority of viewers are women. Still won't stop me from watching the show lol.

[Dinobot 2]

Oh come now. Did anyone buy the Lost sountrack by the way? Im listening to that now.

[Paddock]

Oh come now. Did anyone buy the Lost sountrack by the way? Im listening to that now.


"You all, everybody!"

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Meh, instrumentals don't do it for me for the most part.

[Angry Teste]

Possible Spoiler!

A few sound clips from future Lost episodes caught by the Angry Teste and posted here!

"Walt!"

"My Baby!"

"WAAAALT!!!!"

"MY BAAAABY!!!"

"so what are gonna do Jack?" -Locke

"WAAALT!!!?"

"THEY'VE GOT MY BAAABY!"

"well Jack?" -Locke

"MY BABY!"

"Dude."

"Waaaaalt!!"

[Angry Teste]

"C'mon Freckles."

"WAAALLT!"

"so what are gonna do Jack?"

"My Baaaaaaaaaaaby!"

"It is a fools dog that barks at a flying crow" -Echo

"Waaaaaaalt!?"

"Dad!"

"My baby!"

"well Jack?"

"My baaaaby!"

[3rdAnd15Draw]

excellent season 2 recap, should help any new people catch up

check out this link:

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Don't actually read it, just glance at the first post. I suppose the show is serving some purpose, keeping a number of psychopaths off street corners harassing people with their insanity. These people are probably going to off themselves when the series ends with no explanation.

[Angry Teste]

What I would like to hear.

"Jack...push the fucking button or I will cut your lips off"-Locke

"Jack if you give me that 'I'm a fag' look one more time, I will slap you so hard your five o'clock shadow will fly off"-Locke

"come here bitch and swallow what you spit out" (said to Dogface)

"Dude" Gunshot rings out, and Hurleys bloody body is on the sand with Sawyer standing over him "I told your fat ass not to say Dude again...anyone else think I'm fucking around?,..... 'cause I got the guns BITCHES!"


"Walt...Walt...it's so good to see you....why didn't you send the old man some internet porn while you were fucking around on that computer?"

"My Baby!"

"Give me that fucking thing....if you can't shut up about it-it goes in the ocean!"

[Dinobot 2]

New podcast.

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[17a_tailgater]

I am borderline of quiting the show. I used to get excited about wednesday's now I could really give 2 shits.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

I enjoy bashing it the day after. I can't wait for tomorrow because it's going to be a HUGE letdown.

[Dinobot 2]

Ughhhh.........

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Ughhhh.........

Come on Dino, if you still enjoy the show that's fine but there has been an undeniable drop in quality lately. If we still had the old thread I'm sure we could pinpoint where it started to go wrong, where it's now at the point that most people don't enjoy the show.

[Dinobot 2]

Come on Dino, if you still enjoy the show that's fine but there has been an undeniable drop in quality lately. If we still had the old thread I'm sure we could pinpoint where it started to go wrong, where it's now at the point that most people don't enjoy the show.


Maybe if it was like this in season 3. I'm just enjoying the way it's going NOW.

[17a_tailgater]

it started with season 2

[Dinobot 2]

The guys are talking about some pretty interesting stuff on the last 10 minutes of that Podcast.

[Angry Teste]

I enjoy bashing it the day after. I can't wait for tomorrow because it's going to be a HUGE letdown.

:rofl:

We have to admit that the lack of Dogface has been nice...

[Dinobot 2]

:rofl:

We have to admit that the lack of Dogface has been nice...


Lack of? She was in the last episode plenty.

[Dinobot 2]

Here are two 30 second clips for tomorrows episode.

The first one is Jack, Hurley, and Claire just yappin.

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The second one is about Locke and the hatch going all crazy like in the preview. I'm not sure if you would call this spoiling yourself or not.

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Hey 3rd. I think I'll win that little bet we had on when the Hatch part would take place. You said last 5? I said 25 into the program right?

That doctor kind of looks like Henry Gale.

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[3rdAnd15Draw]

Yeah, and like 10 guys I passed on the street today. Honestly how could you even tell from such a grainy photograph.

[Dinobot 2]

I dunno man.... It's not that bad. Those eyes... We may have seen that baloon in the preview but I still don't believe that he's just some guy who crashed here. There's more to this guy.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

The guys are talking about some pretty interesting stuff on the last 10 minutes of that Podcast.

Admitting that the show is boring?

[Angry Teste]

I wanna see a good episode tonight. I have a feeeling it might be pretty good. I already know that they will leave us hanging at the end, but I am willing to accept it for this one episode.

[Dinobot 2]

Ah finally. Only a few more hours to go.

:)

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Dino I'll accept your apology after tonights episode

[GreenGiant 32]

Dino I'll accept your apology after tonights episode

You have to go into the show with an open mind, though. If you go in expecting mediocre rubbish, it'll just end up becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy. It's the same as going into the show with unjustifiably high expectations. You're bound to be disappointed either way. Personally I expect to be entertained and the shows creators to live up to their promise of making 5 ground shattering revelations. Each one more more explosive than the last. I expect only what I've been promised and of course the opportunity to be entertained in the process.

If these expectations are not met, then let the pile on begin.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

You have to go into the show with an open mind, though. If you go in expecting mediocre rubbish, it'll just end up becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy. It's the same as going into the show with unjustifiably high expectations. You're bound to be disappointed either way. Personally I expect to be entertained and the shows creators to live up to their promise of making 5 ground shattering revelations. Each one more more explosive than the last. I expect only what I've been promised and of course the opportunity to be entertained in the process.

If these expectations are not met, then let the pile on begin.

I guess it depends on the person. Going in with low expectations makes me more likely to enjoy the show, at least based on my experience.

Like you say, if they deliver on the revelations with no cop outs then I'll be satisfied.

[Dinobot 2]

Dino I'll accept your apology after tonights episode


Hahah. For what? I allready know this episode is gonna kick ass. Just call me the Locke of TGG.

[Dinobot 2]

You have to go into the show with an open mind, though. If you go in expecting mediocre rubbish, it'll just end up becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy. It's the same as going into the show with unjustifiably high expectations. You're bound to be disappointed either way. Personally I expect to be entertained and the shows creators to live up to their promise of making 5 ground shattering revelations. Each one more more explosive than the last. I expect only what I've been promised and of course the opportunity to be entertained in the process.

If these expectations are not met, then let the pile on begin.


Well said. I try going into it with high hopes thinking for the best. You can relate this to my attitude towards the Jets which is funny cause it's true.

Despite what you guys think I have not loved all the episodes this season.

[17a_tailgater]

if there is no death,an ass kicking or a double cross than it will be a let down.

sawyer episode was the alst good one.

[Dinobot 2]

if there is no death,an ass kicking or a double cross than it will be a let down.

sawyer episode was the alst good one.


The only thing I think will be in there for sure is a double cross on Locke. And maybe Locke gets beat up too.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

if there is no death,an ass kicking or a double cross than it will be a let down.

sawyer episode was the alst good one.

you know no one is going to die because they have to hype the episode up for a month beforehand. that being said if they did manage to pull off a "suprise" death of a major character(dogface, i'm looking at you) I would never complain about the show again.

[17a_tailgater]

if we had to match characters of Lost with posters from TGG.com,what would your selections be?

buttleman is Hurley
shade is charlie
dino is jack
3rd&15 is sawyer
pf4jets is kate

[Dinobot 2]

you know no one is going to die because they have to hype the episode up for a month beforehand. that being said if they did manage to pull off a "suprise" death of a major character(dogface, i'm looking at you) I would never complain about the show again.


Two words.


Leslie Arzt.


He was a surprise death. And Boone's death wasn't that well known. If you stayed away from the spoilers it was a shocker! Shannon. You could just tell it was coming.

[Dinobot 2]

if we had to match characters of Lost with posters from TGG.com,what would your selections be?

buttleman is Hurley
shade is charlie
dino is jack
3rd&15 is sawyer
pf4jets is kate

GreenGiant 32 is Sayid
angry teste is Charlie
17a_tailgater is Jack
3rd&15 is Sawyer
pf4jets is Kate
Dino is Locke

[ButtleMan]

if we had to match characters of Lost with posters from TGG.com,what would your selections be?

buttleman is Hurley
shade is charlie
dino is jack
3rd&15 is sawyer
pf4jets is kate



Duuude????

[Dinobot 2]

ButtleMan is Boone?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Two words.


Leslie Arzt.


He was a surprise death. And Boone's death wasn't that well known. If you stayed away from the spoilers it was a shocker! Shannon. You could just tell it was coming.

First, Arzt was never a main character. He was a character that existed to be killed. He was introduced a show or two before he died, and was unbelievably annoying. By the time "unstable dynamite" was brought up and Arzt volunteered to go anyone paying attention knew he was gone.

[Dinobot 2]

First, Arzt was never a main character. He was a character that existed to be killed. He was introduced a show or two before he died, and was unbelievably annoying. By the time "unstable dynamite" was brought up and Arzt volunteered to go anyone paying attention knew he was gone.


It was still a surprise. BOOM! And so was Boone's death. I don't care what anyone says. If you don't wanna be spoiled about it then don't viset the Losts sites.

[NYJetFan37]

Can I be that guy killed by Ethan whose name everyone kept messing up since I'm invisible

[Dinobot 2]

Scott. Scotts the one whose dead.

:)

[NYJetFan37]

Scott. Scotts the one whose dead.

:)

I thought it was Steve?

[Dinobot 2]

The way I remember it is I used to have a friend namned Scott who I now hate.


Good stuff.

[NYJetFan37]

*Waits for Dino to defend that POS*

HALF THE F'N EPISODE WAS A POKER MATCH BETWEEN JACK AND SAWYER

[NYJetFan37]

And a cliffhanger at the end

[17a_tailgater]

15 minutes of good show wrapped inside of 27 minutes of bullshit & 18 minutes of commercials.

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[Dinobot 2]

Dino I'll accept your apology after tonights episode


Ohhh how sweet is.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

You counted 15? Lost is like an NBA basketball game, you only have to watch the last 3 minutes.

[NYJetFan37]

Ohhh how sweet is.

Please don't tell me you thought that was a good episode

[17a_tailgater]

they ruined a great show.

[Dinobot 2]

That episode kicked ass.

The whole Hatch meltdown started 10 minutes into the show 3rd. Not my guess of 25 minutes into the show and no where near 5 minutes to the end of it.

That episoe had a real nice twist with Henry Gale. I had no idea what to expect from him and now it seems he isn't even Henry Gale. Some black guy was. The only thing I was expecting that did not happen was that I thought we'd finally find out how Locke got handicaped. I was thinking those two guys killed Hellen and handicaped Lockes legs. I doubt that we will find out this season how it still happened but I would think it would have to come the next time Locke has a centric episode. It was still very good. It's also obvious Locke's dad is the one who conned Sawyers mother.

I'm sure a picture will surface on the net tomorrow on what was on that wall. I allready know. It's a picture of the island with all the Dharma stations. I saw writing that said "here" on it, which must be where they are. I also saw little Hatches. Like one close by which must have been where Claire was taken and another on the other side of the island where Anna, Eko and the others came from. So I think I have that figured out. The Locke/Gale scenes were pretty intense and I enjoyed the whole Jack/Sawyer showdown events. Those who don't can piss off. Also. It's obvious the walls came down when they did was because somthing flew by and dropped off food for the Hatch.

Maybe Henry Gale is that doctro from the picture eh?

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Great episode.

[Dinobot 2]

Please don't tell me you thought that was a good episode


Don't watch it anymore.

[Dinobot 2]

they ruined a great show.

Don't watch it anymore.

[NYJetFan37]

Half the episode was a poker match between jack and sawyer
The flashback didn't go anywhere besides Helen leaving Locke, didn't find out why he paralyzed, nothing.
The lockdown just happened, we didn't find out anything, they will probably never mention it again with the continuity of this show

The only thing that happened was we find out Gale is not Gale in the last minute of the show...

Yeah, sounds kick ass to me...

[Dinobot 2]

Half the episode was a poker match between jack and sawyer
The flashback didn't go anywhere besides Helen leaving Locke, didn't find out why he paralyzed, nothing.
The lockdown just happened, we didn't find out anything, they will probably never mention it again with the continuity of this show

The only thing that happened was we find out Gale is not Gale in the last minute of the show...

Yeah, sounds kick ass to me...


Half the epsiode was not a poker match. First of all pretty much the whole episode was in the Hatch. There were two scenes on the beach. Big god damn deal. I found it amusing. And actually they dished out some weird info on Jack and Sawyer a tad. Makes me think there's more to Jack then therre is.

And your mad that we were left with a cliffhanger? Don't be such babies!!! What the hell did you expect. It makes it all better. The episode was great withought it.

Yeah and I'm sure that the end of that story. As I proved 3rd wrong with my prediction I'll prove you wrong for next weeks episode.



If you all hate EVERY single episode so much. I'll say it again.


Don't watch it!
Don't watch it!
Don't watch it!

[Dinobot 2]

It's pretty obvious now that everyone hates the show but me.

Can I have all of you state the following please.

"I hate this show but I like to watch every episode of this show I hate so I can talk about how much I hate it. It would be pointless to not watch this show because I hate it so much therfor I should watch what I don't like."


Thanks.

[Poeman]

this season overall has been a letdown i think...
i really hope the last stretch goes absolutely shock fest on me because i dont want to see just a slow plot

[The Green Dude]

I love LOST I just dislike the space between new episodes... kinda gets annoying... and Dino, i bought a 12 of warsteiner verum and it taste like poopie. Dunkel is tons better

[Dinobot 2]

this season overall has been a letdown i think...
i really hope the last stretch goes absolutely shock fest on me because i dont want to see just a slow plot


I can't believe everyone is let down by tonights episode. SOme of you need to go back and watch season 1 again. I think you'd be surprised to know it's not that different at all.

[Dinobot 2]

I love LOST I just dislike the space between new episodes... kinda gets annoying... and Dino, i bought a 12 of warsteiner verum and it taste like poopie. Dunkel is tons better


Ya like the Dark better eh?

[Dinobot 2]

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This diagram, which appeared briefly towards the end of the episode, displays all of the hatch symbols arranged in an octagon. It would appear the "Chernobyl" hall is a feature that exists within each station. For those of you who do not know, an upcoming episode is titled "?". Could that mysterious chamber be the center of that episode?

One boost for underwater station theorists is that there is a chamber which appears outside of the perimeter of the octagon which leads to the swan station. If the octagon symbolizes the island, your underwater station exists. But some folks are saying (and I tend to lean this way) that the circle is saying (I am here.)

And just why would someone paint this map in invisible ink, on the inside of a blast door?

Number freaks had quite a few nods as well, most notable for me was the address of the "real" Mr. Gale. 815 Walnut Ridge Rd.

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[3rdAnd15Draw]

I can't believe everyone is let down by tonights episode. SOme of you need to go back and watch season 1 again. I think you'd be surprised to know it's not that different at all.

Are you saying that season 1 was horrible too? It's not like its one person saying this stuff, Dino.

[Dinobot 2]

Are you saying that season 1 was horrible too? It's not like its one person saying this stuff, Dino.


I'm saying that they aren't that different from each other. They are both great seasons. I think you guys just don't see how the show has stayed the same. It's been the same from the get go.



Can I have all of you state the following please.

"I hate this show but I like to watch every episode of this show I hate so I can talk about how much I hate it. It would be pointless to not watch this show because I hate it so much therfor I should watch what I don't like."

[Poeman]

no the show is still awesome.. i just had higher expectations... thats all