Yankees rule and the Mets suck.

[28rogerblaze51]

Shaking my head at mets fans who think they will be a good team this year.

Mets pitching is average at best.

Pedro is a year older and is breaking down.
Glavine? Ha

Other pitchers not worth mentioning.

Yankees pitching showed they can beat good teams... And our hitting dwarfs the mets lineup.

If you go from 1 to 9 on both teams lineups yankees are clearly better.

Pitching... Yankees are better because of the showings last year this year can only get better. Mets pitching was ok and might get better, but if there is no pedro say bye bye to playoff hopes...< and thats because the nl east is weak. If the mets dont make the playoffs in a weak nl east then they really suck bad.

Yankees rule. Mets drool.

[ViLmAfAn5128]

Yankees suck, Mets suck, they all suck.

[Penny2Moss]

I dont know if you can just say the Mets will suck, I think they will be very good this but the Yanks will probably be better

[Murrell2878]

Shaking my head at mets fans who think they will be a good team this year.

Mets pitching is average at best.

Pedro is a year older and is breaking down.
Glavine? Ha

Other pitchers not worth mentioning.

Yankees pitching showed they can beat good teams... And our hitting dwarfs the mets lineup.

If you go from 1 to 9 on both teams lineups yankees are clearly better.

Pitching... Yankees are better because of the showings last year this year can only get better. Mets pitching was ok and might get better, but if there is no pedro say bye bye to playoff hopes...< and thats because the nl east is weak. If the mets dont make the playoffs in a weak nl east then they really suck bad.

Yankees rule. Mets drool.
Why do I always read your posts in "rap" form????????????

[The Lord]

I have three words to say: THATS FREAKING BULLLLLLLLSHHHHHHHHITT!!!!

[Pennythetowelboy]

Shaking my head at mets fans who think they will be a good team this year.

Mets pitching is average at best.

Pedro is a year older and is breaking down.
Glavine? Ha

Other pitchers not worth mentioning.

Yankees pitching showed they can beat good teams... And our hitting dwarfs the mets lineup.

If you go from 1 to 9 on both teams lineups yankees are clearly better.

Pitching... Yankees are better because of the showings last year this year can only get better. Mets pitching was ok and might get better, but if there is no pedro say bye bye to playoff hopes...< and thats because the nl east is weak. If the mets dont make the playoffs in a weak nl east then they really suck bad.

Yankees rule. Mets drool.


What the hell, the NL East is better then the Al, Nats are good, phillies are good and so is HotLanta
Lets compare the mets and Spanks....


Mets
Above average Pitching at best if healthy
Really good lineup, Beltran will have a great year behind delgado
Bullpen good with new additions

Yankees
Top 2 starters have had major injury problems and are OLD.
the others are Wright and Pavano who sucked at best last year and were hurt 80% of the season. the other 2 are young and inexperinced.

The Lineup is great, fine i said it. But there is some ouestion marks. (sheffield and giambi ran out of cream)

Mariano WAS the best closer but he's also gettting old.

[GreenHornet]

Both the Yankees and Mets suck. The Mets suck because they just do. The Yankees suck because they remind me of breast implants. They just go out and buy things they don't have. They're fake.

I hate baseball. Over-paid bunch of whiners. It was the last strike that did me in.........sorry. I do love the Jets though even though they are having their problems, too.

[nyscene911]

Thanks for the insightful post Roger. You really did wonders for me. How could I ever believe that the Mets had any chance this year!
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[eyedea]

Shaking my head at mets fans who think they will be a good team this year.

Mets pitching is average at best.

Pedro is a year older and is breaking down.
Glavine? Ha

Other pitchers not worth mentioning.

Yankees pitching showed they can beat good teams... And our hitting dwarfs the mets lineup.

If you go from 1 to 9 on both teams lineups yankees are clearly better.

Pitching... Yankees are better because of the showings last year this year can only get better. Mets pitching was ok and might get better, but if there is no pedro say bye bye to playoff hopes...< and thats because the nl east is weak. If the mets dont make the playoffs in a weak nl east then they really suck bad.

Yankees rule. Mets drool.

Once again roger you have shown us you are all wise and knowing.

[ButtleMan]

Roger,
You do realize that we(yankee fans) need to worry more about the Red Sox and Blue Jays than the Mets. Right?

[Exit 117]

Forget waiting for the Yankees & Mets to play each other, blaze. Sig bet. I challenge you. If Mets have a better record than the Yankees, you wear a sig of my choice from the end of the regular season until pitchers & catchers of the next season (2007). If both make the playoffs, then it goes to whichever team goes farther. If the Yankees have a better record than the Mets, I wear a sig of your choice from the end of the regular season until pitchers & catchers of the next season (2007). Deal? Back up your talk with a bet, big man.

[Cakes]

Pedro is a year older and is breaking down.



Believe it or not, every pitcher in major league baseball is a year older than last year.

[Jets4betterorworse]

I wouldn't say they suck 28rogerblaze51. However they are not a playoff team 80-83 wins should be the number. Yes it's got to be sad to a Met fan that they still can't make the playoffs but there not the Royals here.

[Cakes]

I wouldn't say they suck 28rogerblaze51. However they are not a playoff team 80-83 wins should be the number. Yes it's got to be sad to a Met fan that they still can't make the playoffs but there not the Royals here.


Unless you are certain there will be massive Jets-like injuries, what makes you think the Mets will be worse than they were in 2005?

[nyscene911]

I wouldn't say they suck 28rogerblaze51. However they are not a playoff team 80-83 wins should be the number. Yes it's got to be sad to a Met fan that they still can't make the playoffs but there not the Royals here.

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:lol:

[jdjets]

yanks pitching not geyying old? are f-in serious.

big bird hasnt done anything to earn that money.

brown? yeah ok, hes not old and injury prone.

moose, el stinko, oh yeah , old overpaid
BIG time.

they dont scare anyone anymore. yanks watch out for jays this year, yu'll see.

ok,you can get off your knees now yank fans , i think jeter came already.

[typeOnegative13NY]

What the hell, the NL East is better then the Al, Nats are good, phillies are good and so is HotLanta
Lets compare the mets and Spanks....


Mets
Above average Pitching at best if healthy
Really good lineup, Beltran will have a great year behind delgado
Bullpen good with new additions

Yankees
Top 2 starters have had major injury problems and are OLD.
the others are Wright and Pavano who sucked at best last year and were hurt 80% of the season. the other 2 are young and inexperinced.

The Lineup is great, fine i said it. But there is some ouestion marks. (sheffield and giambi ran out of cream)

Mariano WAS the best closer but he's also gettting old.Mariano "was" the best closer? How did he do last season? Who was the comeback player last year? Sheff?!?

[typeOnegative13NY]

I like to bust on the mets with the fans here,but the truth is I like to see them do well. I'm not really a hater. I think they will do very well this year. But you clowns that doubting the strength of the Yankees this year are ridiculous. Hate all you want,but don't let it get in the way of truth. Yankees are built very,very strong this year.

[Gator]

I like to bust on the mets with the fans here,but the truth is I like to see them do well. I'm not really a hater. I think they will do very well this year. But you clowns that doubting the strength of the Yankees this year are ridiculous. Hate all you want,but don't let it get in the way of truth. Yankees are built very,very strong this year.


The Yankees are the Yankees, I can't say they aren't good, but when your starters are 43 year old Randy, Chen Meng Wang, Aaron Small, that latin guy they got from Colorado (forgot his name), and Moose who is iffy............I don't know how one can be supremely confident. The Sox did add Beckett and have those two young hard throwers in the bullpen that are very good.

[ShadeTree#55]

Its called being cocky, not confident.

[ButtleMan]

yanks pitching not geyying old? are f-in serious.

big bird hasnt done anything to earn that money.

brown? yeah ok, hes not old and injury prone.

moose, el stinko, oh yeah , old overpaid
BIG time.

they dont scare anyone anymore. yanks watch out for jays this year, yu'll see.

ok,you can get off your knees now yank fans , i think jeter came already.


Brown isnt on the team anymore if you are going to base salary on performance than its impossible for anyone to "earn" that money.
I'm sure you are really "earning" that $5.25 an hr that you are making.

[jaywayne12]

Brown isnt on the team anymore if you are going to base salary on performance than its impossible for anyone to "earn" that money.
I'm sure you are really "earning" that $5.25 an hr that you are making.

nah...he turned it down because he didnt deserve it. No hypocrisy there.

Met fans have to stop using the money issue...because they had the biggest payroll in the national league last year...and it didnt do a thing.

[Barry the Baptist]

Often times imatated never duplicated..... GYC is all I have to say.

Jeez it's like last years Yankees team was far superior to the Mets... lets see they split the season series and if not for Braden Looper the Mets sweep the skanks in the Bronx. f the Mets could beat up on Baltimore, Tampa, KC, Detriot and Toronto I'm sure they'd make the playoffs too.

The Mets vastly improved to the Yankees this offseason so two teams that were pretty even and the Mets got better. Think before you post. BTW the NL East is far superior to the AL East. NL East is the best division in baseball, well it was last year.

[Jets4betterorworse]

Unless you are certain there will be massive Jets-like injuries, what makes you think the Mets will be worse than they were in 2005?

1 threw 5. Run me down your projected win total then i'll explain.

[MSUJet85]

Roger your starting rotation is in just as bad shape or worse than what the Mets have, you are depending on a 42 year old starter with back problems, a 37 year old Mussina, a mediocre Wright and hoping that Chacon, Small duplicate their performance because the Yanks wouldn't even be in the playoffs last year without their performances, and add to the fact that they are depending on Farnsworth to be the bridge to Rivera, the same guy that choked like a dog in last year's playoffs. Roger your team has way too many question marks to be cocky right now.

[Cakes]

that latin guy they got from Colorado (forgot his name),


To my knowledge Shawn Chacon is a black guy, but I could be wrong.

[BIG COUNTRY]

To my knowledge Shawn Chacon is a black guy, but I could be wrong.
Both are wrong hes actually Alaskan(I believe)

No sarcasm either Im pretty sure hes Alaskan

[Cakes]

1 threw 5. Run me down your projected win total then i'll explain.


Pedro Martinez 17 wins
Tom Glavine 13 wins
Steve Trachsel 12 wins
Victor Zambrano (and/or other 4th starter) 8 wins
Aaron Heilman (and/or other 5th starter) 11 wins

30 wins from rest of staff (and pitchers traded for during season)

91 wins seems about right

Last year I correctly predicted the Mets to go 83-79.
I haven't made my formal MLB picks yet. I'll do that in March and post at that time.

[Cakes]

Both are wrong hes actually Alaskan(I believe)

No sarcasm either Im pretty sure hes Alaskan


Yes, he was born in Anchorage, Alaska.

[MSUJet85]

I wouldn't be surprised that Pelfrey is in the rotation in the middle of the year, or one of the guys that Omar picked up beats out Zambrano as a starter to start the year

[Jets4betterorworse]

Trachsel will not win 12. If he isn't retired by June 7 tops. Trachsel stinks.

[typeOnegative13NY]

The Yankees are the Yankees, I can't say they aren't good, but when your starters are 43 year old Randy, Chen Meng Wang, Aaron Small, that latin guy they got from Colorado (forgot his name), and Moose who is iffy............I don't know how one can be supremely confident. The Sox did add Beckett and have those two young hard throwers in the bullpen that are very good.
And Randy is Randy. Anyone would love to have him in the rotation. The Guy got better as the season went on,not worse. Whats wrong with Wang? How could you not feel good about Chacon and Small after how they pitched last year? Moose is iffy sometimes,and i can't stand Pavano,thats the only worry I have. But that rotation wioth Farnsworth and Mariano is no reason to not be confident. Add that to the line up we have,and there shouldn't be any doubt.

[Gator]

And Randy is Randy. Anyone would love to have him in the rotation. The Guy got better as the season went on,not worse. Whats wrong with Wang? How could you not feel good about Chacon and Small after how they pitched last year? Moose is iffy sometimes,and i can't stand Pavano,thats the only worry I have. But that rotation wioth Farnsworth and Mariano is no reason to not be confident. Add that to the line up we have,and there shouldn't be any doubt.



So Randy is just going to great until eternity? Wang, Chacon, Small, you're right they were all good. That means they will all do the same or better this year? What if one does the same, and two do worse. I'm not saying they will, but you ARE talking Chacon, Small and Wang. This is not Clemens, Pettite, Wells circa 2001. They needed every ounce of those young guys to beat out the Sox by a hair, and the Sox added Josh Beckett. Starting pitching is a cause for concern this year, IMO.

[typeOnegative13NY]

So Randy is just going to great until eternity? Wang, Chacon, Small, you're right they were all good. That means they will all do the same or better this year? What if one does the same, and two do worse. I'm not saying they will, but you ARE talking Chacon, Small and Wang. This is not Clemens, Pettite, Wells circa 2001. They needed every ounce of those young guys to beat out the Sox by a hair, and the Sox added Josh Beckett. Starting pitching is a cause for concern this year, IMO.
Well,that is really kind of a ridiculous way of lookin g at it. So you guys signed Wagner,and he was good last year,does that mean he'll be good this year?
My point is that Randy progressed as the season went on,so why not feel that he will be able to do it again this year? One year is not going to make a difference unless he did worse as last year went on. And yes,I'm talking about Small,who went what? 10-0? Chacon was awesome. Wang was great too. You really can't down those guys until they give you a reason to.
Actually,the only reason we beat the Sox by a hair is because we fell behind early. Thats not gonna happen this year,i'll guarantee it. The Sox did sign Beckett,but they lost plenty all around and one guy isn't going to make their year.

[ShadeTree#55]

Well,that is really kind of a ridiculous way of lookin g at it. So you guys signed Wagner,and he was good last year,does that mean he'll be good this year?
.

So you have Mariano he was good last year, does that mean he will be good this year?

[Cakes]

Kyle Farnsworth might do okay in the regular season, but I could never trust him in a tight spot in the postseason.

[AMJets]

Kyle Farnsworth might do okay in the regular season, but I could never trust him in a tight spot in the postseason.

Good think he will be, at best, the #3 go to guy from the bullpen in the post-season.

[Gator]

Well,that is really kind of a ridiculous way of lookin g at it. So you guys signed Wagner,and he was good last year,does that mean he'll be good this year?
My point is that Randy progressed as the season went on,so why not feel that he will be able to do it again this year? One year is not going to make a difference unless he did worse as last year went on. And yes,I'm talking about Small,who went what? 10-0? Chacon was awesome. Wang was great too. You really can't down those guys until they give you a reason to.
Actually,the only reason we beat the Sox by a hair is because we fell behind early. Thats not gonna happen this year,i'll guarantee it. The Sox did sign Beckett,but they lost plenty all around and one guy isn't going to make their year.


I did not say one word about the Mets. Personally, I feel the Mets are weak in the starting rotation as well.

Here's my point about the Yankees. Last year the starting pitching fell apart and they patched it up with these unknown guys who were great. Now, you are using these guys as the reason why they will be fine this year, but they are not proven guys. A proven guy...you know what you will get year after year. All three of those guys only did it for less than one season. When you become the guy that's being counted on from spring training it puts more pressure on you and you don't always get the same result. Can you get the same result with them? Possibly. Should you be confident or cocky with them, I would say no.

[Yisman]

trolling at its best...

[Exit 117]

Forget waiting for the Yankees & Mets to play each other, blaze. Sig bet. I challenge you. If Mets have a better record than the Yankees, you wear a sig of my choice from the end of the regular season until pitchers & catchers of the next season (2007). If both make the playoffs, then it goes to whichever team goes farther. If the Yankees have a better record than the Mets, I wear a sig of your choice from the end of the regular season until pitchers & catchers of the next season (2007). Deal? Back up your talk with a bet, big man.
Come on, Roger. Back up your talk. Don't wuss out. Bet not long enough? How about until opening day 2007?

[The Dark Knight]

Come on, Roger. Back up your talk. Don't wuss out. Bet not long enough? How about until opening day 2007?
He needs to start thinking of ideas for ya.:beer:

[FrankTheTank]

According to Yankee fans Pedro was old and breaking down last year, I think he did pretty well. I believe that both teams will make the playoffs but to say that the Mets suck is absolutely ridiculous.

Looks like some Yankee fans are a little nervous that the back page wars may be back on... buahahhahahahah

[The Dark Knight]

How can anyone say the Mets suck?

They obviously do not suck on paper.

The Mets look like a pretty good team.

Can't say anything until they play, but looking at their line-up, they should be good.

[ButtleMan]

Looks like some Yankee fans are a little nervous that the back page wars may be back on... buahahhahahahah

I could care less about the back page war or even the NY war.
My war is with Boston, Toronto, Baltimore and Tampa Bay.

[The Dark Knight]

My war is with Boston, Toronto, Baltimore and Tampa Bay.
War with Boston, a few battles with Toronto, and a couple skirmishes with the O's and D-Rays.:beer:

[typeOnegative13NY]

So you have Mariano he was good last year, does that mean he will be good this year?
you have to re-read my post. I was arguing against trying to look at things that way. I think he will,just like Wagner will.

[AMJets]

Looks like some Yankee fans are a little nervous that the back page wars may be back on... buahahhahahahah

The only person who cares about the back page wars is Steinbrenner. Luckily, Cashman doesn't.

[typeOnegative13NY]

I did not say one word about the Mets. Personally, I feel the Mets are weak in the starting rotation as well.

Here's my point about the Yankees. Last year the starting pitching fell apart and they patched it up with these unknown guys who were great. Now, you are using these guys as the reason why they will be fine this year, but they are not proven guys. A proven guy...you know what you will get year after year. All three of those guys only did it for less than one season. When you become the guy that's being counted on from spring training it puts more pressure on you and you don't always get the same result. Can you get the same result with them? Possibly. Should you be confident or cocky with them, I would say no.
Ok,i understand that. It's a good point. But Small was 10-0. I'll ride with that any day for the up coming season. Chacon,who knows. I am confident though. Moose,Randy I feel will be fine. Randy will be in his second year here and "settled" in with the NY pressure etc.

[typeOnegative13NY]

trolling at its best...
Trollings! Do you calls trollings hear?

[lightning]

What the hell, the NL East is better then the Al, Nats are good, phillies are good and so is HotLanta
Lets compare the mets and Spanks....


Mets
Above average Pitching at best if healthy
Really good lineup, Beltran will have a great year behind delgado
Bullpen good with new additions

Yankees
Top 2 starters have had major injury problems and are OLD.
the others are Wright and Pavano who sucked at best last year and were hurt 80% of the season. the other 2 are young and inexperinced.

The Lineup is great, fine i said it. But there is some ouestion marks. (sheffield and giambi ran out of cream)

Mariano WAS the best closer but he's also gettting old.
unless mariano dies, he's still the best closer in baseball

[Jets4betterorworse]

How can anyone say the Mets suck?

They obviously do not suck on paper.

The Mets look like a pretty good team.

Can't say anything until they play, but looking at their line-up, they should be good.

Dude the Mets deserved to be killed. Tricked us again. Get a great team then trade Seo and Benson for bums just cause they're hispanic. They don't have me fooled. I know i'm new here but I come here to talk sports and I will call it how I see it like it or not.

[Pennythetowelboy]

Why are the spankie fans worried about the mets?
Worry about your own damn divison.

[typeOnegative13NY]

Why are the spankie fans worried about the mets?
Worry about your own damn divison.
whos worried?

[Exit 117]

Don't be afraid, Roger.

[PleaseWinSuperBowlJets]

Yankees rule and the Mets do suck.

The Mets may look good on paper, but in reality, they suck!

[Exit 117]

Yankees rule and the Mets do suck.

The Mets may look good on paper, but in reality, they suck!
Great logic.

[MisterMoss]

It's about time we had one of these threads.

[FITM]

I wouldn't be surprised that Pelfrey is in the rotation in the middle of the year, or one of the guys that Omar picked up beats out Zambrano as a starter to start the year

Pelfrey?!?

Bannister or Maine have better chances in the rotation before he does.

[Yisman]

Trollings! Do you calls trollings hear?


Yes! Yes! I calls trollings hear! Someone needs a banning on permanent.

[Penny2Moss]

Look I hate the Mets, they definitly arent gonna suck, are they gonna win the east and go deep in the playoffs hell i dont know. I love the Yanks, they definitly arent gonna suck, are they gonna win the east and go deep in the playoffs again hell I dont know thats why the games are played, can fans of both please stop crowning the champion before the first grapefruit league game

[FITM]

In my opinion, the only real problems both teams have are age/health problems in the rotation. I don't know the Yankees farm system real well, but I know the Mets have 4 or 5 potentially good starters awaiting in the wings.

Pedro, Glavine and Trachsel are all old, but still hanging in there. Same goes for Johnson, Mussina, and Pavano.

If anyone of these teams or both of them make it to the playoffs, they are going to need help in the first 3 starters.

[typeOnegative13NY]

Yes! Yes! I calls trollings hear! Someone needs a banning on permanent.
well,then you just need to Believes in yourself and your team!
Just believes and it happen befour your eyes!
Like real magic!"

[MSUJet85]

Pelfrey?!?

Bannister or Maine have better chances in the rotation before he does.
If he tears up double A, I could see it happen especially if whoever we have tried at the 5th spot is failing miserably

[28rogerblaze51]

Guys, guys, i will start a thread like this every year until i die. Im a new yorker and the fans always go at it..its nature.

I know our division we have to face them every year that can be left unsaid. But the mets and yankees fans going at it is tradition.

The yankees have a history of winning and the mets have a history of losing. Thats why this thread is here.

The GYC thread ha talk to me when that thread produces good arguments and not posting GYC 2,000 times.

Exit 117 you want a sig bet fine you got it.
Look i say the mets suck because im a yankee fan they are a good team on paper but when your FO pulled of those trades for pitchers...ha man those guys dont know what the hell they are doing. Even metfans agree with this.

Players dont really want to play for the mets they just want a check...now ask a player any player any level, who would they rather play for yankees or mets? Who do you think they will say? Carlos beltran the latest proof.

Sure randy is old and so is pedro... But giving history of the 2 pitchers who would you think will make a comeback? Randy has done it b4.

Glavine and mussina, this year is mussinas hoorah year where he actually gives it his all, glavine might do the same but i just dont feel it.

Trachsel and pavano...who the hell said pavano is old? Hahaha trachsel will not shine at all this season and pavano has something to prove. With that said i think pavano will have the better year.

Chien ming wang is a rookie that is shining right now like pettitte did back then...can the mets say that about anybody in their staff now? Minor leaguers dont count. Because they havent pitched in the majors yet wang has and done exceptional.

Yankees rule. Mets drool.
MWASNY.

[Cakes]

they are a good team on paper but when your FO pulled of those trades for pitchers...ha man those guys dont know what the hell they are doing. Even metfans agree with this.

Players dont really want to play for the mets they just want a check...now ask a player any player any level, who would they rather play for yankees or mets? Who do you think they will say? Carlos beltran the latest proof.

Sure randy is old and so is pedro... But giving history of the 2 pitchers who would you think will make a comeback? Randy has done it b4.




I didn't have a problem with the Anna Benson and Jae Seo trades. If Sanchez pitches effectively to get to Wagner in the 9th, then he will carry more value than Seo would have carried as a 4th starter.

I see nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest players would rather play for the Yankees than the Mets. I'm sure it is harder to play for the Yankees because there is even more media scrutiny. Players sign with both these teams for checks. Don't give me any of this Yankee pride bullshit.

What, exactly, is Pedro Martinez coming back from? Did I miss something? Did he go 4-15 with a 6.43 ERA last year? Given history, Randy Johnson is more likely to spit the bit in '06 than Martinez for two reasons: age and he failed the Yankees in the postseason last year (he didn't handle New York well).

[28rogerblaze51]

^Red sox let him go because they knew something about his arm... And now its been a couple of years, this is the year it shows. We all know pedro is frail. And you are right randy didnt handle the new york media situation, but you know as all yankee players coming from a diffrent team needs time to adjust, he has had the time and will be better.

[FirstTimeCaller]

Players dont really want to play for the mets they just want a check...now ask a player any player any level, who would they rather play for yankees or mets? Who do you think they will say? Carlos beltran the latest proof.

Ask Tony Woamck... I think that's the latest case, the story came out today. Duuuuh! :lol:

Sure randy is old and so is pedro... But giving history of the 2 pitchers who would you think will make a comeback? Randy has done it b4.

He "did it" it real well when it mattered last year. :rofl2: BTW Pedro is 8 years younger then RJ and 3 years younger then Moose. Duuuuuuh x2

Trachsel and pavano...who the hell said pavano is old? Hahaha trachsel will not shine at all this season and pavano has something to prove. With that said i think pavano will have the better year.

Pavano is another guy that doesn't want to be a Yankee. He showed up to camp with a surpise back injury... AWESOME!

[28rogerblaze51]

^not wanting to be a yankee and not handling the yankee uniform are 2 totally diffrent things. And most players can not handle the yankee uniform 1 is pavano the other is womack..holding him back yeah ok, the punk didnt do shit at all.

[FirstTimeCaller]

^Red sox let him go because they knew something about his arm... And now its been a couple of years, this is the year it shows. We all know pedro is frail. And you are right randy didnt handle the new york media situation, but you know as all yankee players coming from a diffrent team needs time to adjust, he has had the time and will be better.


2006 Pedro- 217 IP... really frail :drunk:

[FirstTimeCaller]

^not wanting to be a yankee and not handling the yankee uniform are 2 totally diffrent things. And most players can not handle the yankee uniform 1 is pavano the other is womack..holding him back yeah ok, the punk didnt do shit at all.


Pavano asked to be traded and womack left... sounds like they really want to be Yankees. :lol:

[28rogerblaze51]

You know what i mean by frail... He pitched good last season to show up the sox... He did that, now his arm will show why they let him go.

[28rogerblaze51]

Pavano asked to be traded and womack left... sounds like they really want to be Yankees. :lol:

Exactly 2 perfect example of players that cant handle the yankee uniform.

[FirstTimeCaller]

You know what i mean by frail... He pitched good last season to show up the sox... He did that, now his arm will show why they let him go.


At 34? Keep dreaming...

[FirstTimeCaller]

Exactly 2 perfect example of players that cant handle the yankee uniform.


Good thing Pavano is yor #3 again this year :lol: Talk about frail

[Cakes]

You know what i mean by frail... He pitched good last season to show up the sox... He did that, now his arm will show why they let him go.


He is such a masterful, crafty, all-time great of a pitcher, that he got the job done last year without heat. Plenty of HOF pitchers lost much off their fastball in the second half of their careers and were still highly effective.

[28rogerblaze51]

His arm is what is in question here... The yankees didnt pick him up for a reason... The same reason why they let pettitte go they know something. You guys better hope he doesnt get hurt in the WBC.. Because then you guys are really going to suck...

[MSUJet85]

His arm is what is in question here... The yankees didnt pick him up for a reason... The same reason why they let pettitte go they know something. You guys better hope he doesnt get hurt in the WBC.. Because then you guys are really going to suck...
He isn't going to play in the WBC and his arm hasn't been a question, and it has already shown that the Yanks made mistakes letting Pettitte and Lieber go, and instead going all in with a 43 year old ace with back problems.

[28rogerblaze51]

Letting lieber go? He did good in the first half and tailed off in the second.. But i liked lieber.

And andy in the following year wasnt playing because of injury that year and hasnt played a whole season yet.

[MSUJet85]

Letting lieber go? He did good in the first half and tailed off in the second.. But i liked lieber.

And andy in the following year wasnt playing because of injury that year and hasnt played a whole season yet.
What are you talking about he played the entire season last year and was dominant the second half

[devilonthetownhallroof]

Letting lieber go? He did good in the first half and tailed off in the second.. But i liked lieber.

And andy in the following year wasnt playing because of injury that year and hasnt played a whole season yet.

Petitte last year- 17-9, 2.39 ERA, 220+ IP

No one on the Yankee staff was anywhere CLOSE.

[28rogerblaze51]

He wont pitch the whole year this year. and andy did take some games off last year because of his elbow.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

randy johnson is almost 10 years older then pedro but according to roger they're both "old"

[Pennythetowelboy]

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Ha, two of the best posts I've seen in my short period of being a poster here. Nice Pennythetowelboy.

[Cellar-door]

Mets pitching is average at best.

Pedro is a year older and is breaking down.

the irony of a yankees fan saying another teams pitching is old and breaking down is delicious

[28rogerblaze51]

I consider pedro old because of his elbow, if he had no elbow problems he would be considered getting there.

As you know older guys with occuring injuries will always come up again. The age and injuries arent favorable.

Randy had no such injury and is an elite pitcher, therefore he can still have a great year like he will have this year.

We have 2 old pitchers in the starting rotation...mets have?

[ShadeTree#55]

Randy has no cartlidge in his knee. WTF are you talking about?

[devilonthetownhallroof]

There is nothing wrong with Pedro's elbow, you're thinking of Mussina.

[Pennythetowelboy]

I consider pedro old because of his elbow, if he had no elbow problems he would be considered getting there.

As you know older guys with occuring injuries will always come up again. The age and injuries arent favorable.

Randy had no such injury and is an elite pitcher, therefore he can still have a great year like he will have this year.

We have 2 old pitchers in the starting rotation...mets have?

Were you and Rickey smoke'n on old grampas crack pipe? If not then WTF dude.

[28rogerblaze51]

^and that has to do with his elbow in what capacity? I think a athlete can handle no cartilage in the knee, then an elbow injuriy being that they are PITCHERS.

[28rogerblaze51]

Why did the redsox let him go?

[Pennythetowelboy]

^and that has to do with his elbow in what capacity? I think a athlete can handle no cartilage in the knee, then an elbow injuriy being that they are PITCHERS.

again, WTF are you talking about.

[devilonthetownhallroof]

The vast majority of a pitcher's power comes from the legs, far more than from the arm.

[ShadeTree#55]

Pitchers use their legs. Are you nuts?

Pedro has a Labrum problem which is his shoulder, homie.

Better ask somebody rog, and quit acting the fool.

[FITM]

I consider pedro old because of his elbow, if he had no elbow problems he would be considered getting there.

As you know older guys with occuring injuries will always come up again. The age and injuries arent favorable.

Randy had no such injury and is an elite pitcher, therefore he can still have a great year like he will have this year.

We have 2 old pitchers in the starting rotation...mets have?

Regardless of how old they are. Just understand the fact that the Mets and Yankees top 3 starters are either old or have had health problems. The bottom half of the rotation are questionable.

[MSUJet85]

I consider pedro old because of his elbow, if he had no elbow problems he would be considered getting there.

As you know older guys with occuring injuries will always come up again. The age and injuries arent favorable.

Randy had no such injury and is an elite pitcher, therefore he can still have a great year like he will have this year.

We have 2 old pitchers in the starting rotation...mets have?
No Randy has back problems which affected what he did last year, and being 43 I bet you it will happen again, Moose is 37 and has been just about average for the last 2 years, and then it is question marks galore with Chacon who was terrible until last year, who knows if he will maintain it when the league gets to see him again, and Wang with injury problems and Wright who also was terrible, and if Torre lets him out of his cage Small who is just as big a question mark as the rest. And you forgot to mention that both RJ and Moose is at least 2 years older than the rest of the Mets staff

[devilonthetownhallroof]

Why did the redsox let him go?

Because 1) the current management has tried to get rid of everyone from the previous regime, 2) they didnt want to give him 4 years, they don't give ANY pitcher 4 years, not even 25 year old Papelbon, and 3) the Mets made a better offer.

[28rogerblaze51]

Randys problems can be fixed with a cortizone shot he is not kevin brown, he has rested..pedro will have problems mark my words.... And i know they use their legs but in all honesty the only thing that would stop them from pitching is if its a groin injury.. Any other gets a cortizone shot. Randy will have a good year..didnt say he will pitch the whole year, but will have a good year. Pedro wont. Wait and see.

[nyjunc]

randy johnson is almost 10 years older then pedro but according to roger they're both "old"

But pedro has the body of a jr HS girl so he breaks down alot, he'll NEVER be able to pitch into his 40's like Clemens & Johnson.

[ShadeTree#55]

And I say Randy won't and Pedro will.

You should be worrying about your whack bullpen.

[28rogerblaze51]

Im not in baseball mode right now.... So all the players injuries hasnt settled in my brain yet...but i know pedro will be hurt this year and thats the bottom line... randy is old yes but he will be in and out its expected at his age. But he will have a better year then pedro.

[ButtleMan]

Both will miss starts this year. I dont think either of them will make 30 starts.

[nyjunc]

And I say Randy won't and Pedro will.

You should be worrying about your whack bullpen.

You are talking about our pen?:rofl: Our pen is light years ahead of yours.

[28rogerblaze51]

Wack ass bullpen..hold up i know recently our bullpen had its problems but we have a diffrent staff now and you cant judge it untill the season starts... If we still had the same staff then you can say that..diffrent eyes see diffrent outcomes,
And the yankees bullpen will be fine.

[nyjunc]

Both will miss starts this year. I dont think either of them will make 30 starts.

I hope Randy misses a few weeks, as long as it isn't serious I prefer our pitchers to get a few week break to they are fresh come October.

[DROB63Cmart28]

The Lineup is great, fine i said it. But there is some ouestion marks. (sheffield and giambi ran out of cream)

Mariano WAS the best closer but he's also gettting old.[/QUOTE]

Are you crazy Sheff and Giambi question marks? they were great last year and Giambi won comeback player of the year while Sheffield had another all-star appearence and a great season. Even if Mariano is gettin old hes still at the top of his game an shows no signs of slowin down. Mets suck you guys have high hopes every year signin players who have been good in the past an end up suckin on the mets. The mets will always be second best in new york. GO YANKS!!!!

[28rogerblaze51]

Somebody should break down the team by its positions and we will see who is better.

[Cakes]

Mets suck you guys have high hopes every year signin players who have been good in the past an end up suckin on the mets. The mets will always be second best in new york. GO YANKS!!!!

The Mets haven't had high hopes for several seasons now. The Mets were not second best when I was growing up. The Yankees were the city turds from 1984-1993. 1994 was the first year that I watched baseball where the Yankees mattered more than the Mets.

[28rogerblaze51]

He said sheff has problems and giambi is fat lmao.... What the hell did they do last year? And is the season starting tomorrow?

[nyjunc]

mariano was the best closer LAST YEAR, it's not like it was 5 years ago. I never doubt the guy, at some point he's going to lose it but until I see I will always have confidence in him. He's like the Braves, until I see a team in the NL East finish ahead of them I will never bet against them.

[ShadeTree#55]

Farnsworth?

[nyjunc]

The Mets haven't had high hopes for several seasons now. The Mets were not second best when I was growing up. The Yankees were the city turds from 1984-1993. 1994 was the first year that I watched baseball where the Yankees mattered more than the Mets.

Actually the Mets have had high hopes for about the last 4 years. After the '00 WS they had high hopes then after they got alomar, vaughn, etc. they had high hopes, last year w/ all the FAs they had high hopes and the Yanks were not awful in the 80s they just couldn't get over the hump. They were always in contention until the late 80s. From about '89-'91 they were dreadful but throughout most of the 80s they were good but not great and for all the "greatness" of the Mets in the 80s they won ONE Championship and had a many WS appearances as the Yankees.

[nyjunc]

Farnsworth?

julio?:rofl2:

[Cakes]

Somebody should break down the team by its positions and we will see who is better.


Um, no. It would be better to break down the Yankees against the AL. Then break down the Mets against NL teams.

To all the people hating on the Mets- I want detailed accounts on which 4 NL teams will keep the Mets out of the postseason. I want paragraphs on the Astros, Cardinals, Brewers, etc.

(As a Mets fan who thinks both NY teams will make the postseason in 2006, I don't have to spend any time discounting either team. However, those that wish to discount the Mets, let's hear it. I want lenghty reasons why the Mets won't make the playoffs- but without mentioning the Mets. Get it? Puff up 4 other NL teams and tell me just how great those teams are.)

[nyjunc]

Mariano, Farnsworth, Myers, Sturtze, Dotel & Villone are alot better than Wagner, Julio, Padilla, Bell. We have the better closer and better setup men.

[Cakes]

Actually the Mets have had high hopes for about the last 4 years. After the '00 WS they had high hopes then after they got alomar, vaughn, etc. they had high hopes, last year w/ all the FAs they had high hopes and the Yanks were not awful in the 80s they just couldn't get over the hump. They were always in contention until the late 80s. From about '89-'91 they were dreadful but throughout most of the 80s they were good but not great and for all the "greatness" of the Mets in the 80s they won ONE Championship and had a many WS appearances as the Yankees.


The Mets have not had high hopes for the last 4 years. They had some "hopes" in 2001 and 2002. They had very little hope entering the 2003 and 2004 seasons.

[nyjunc]

Um, no. It would be better to break down the Yankees against the AL. Then break down the Mets against NL teams.

To all the people hating on the Mets- I want detailed accounts on which 4 NL teams will keep the Mets out of the postseason. I want paragraphs on the Astros, Cardinals, Brewers, etc.

(As a Mets fan who thinks both NY teams will make the postseason in 2006, I don't have to spend any time discounting either team. However, those that wish to discount the Mets, let's hear it. I want lenghty reasons why the Mets won't make the playoffs- but without mentioning the Mets. Get it? Puff up 4 other NL teams and tell me just how great those teams are.)

I remember last year I got into a huge argument w/ Shade and others about Houston being better and wonering why Beltran would go to a worse team and they told me how bad the 'Stros would be and how much better the Mets would be, how did that work out?

[nyjunc]

The Mets have not had high hopes for the last 4 years. They had some "hopes" in 2001 and 2002. They had very little hope entering the 2003 and 2004 seasons.

There were defintely high hopes in '01 & '02. In '03 and '04 the expectations were a little lower but there were still hopes and last year the higher hopes returned. 2 years ago Met fan #1(Shade) GUARANTEED a division title after you swept the Yanks in June.

[ShadeTree#55]

Mariano, Farnsworth, Myers, Sturtze, Dotel & Villone are alot better than Wagner, Julio, Padilla, Bell. We have the better closer and better setup men.
Wagner, Sanchez, Bradford, Julio, Padilla are better.


Counting on Dotel? Bold
Wait until the AL east gets a load of Kyles straighter than an arrow fastball. They might take down the blimp flying over the stadium.

[Cakes]

There were defintely high hopes in '01 & '02. In '03 and '04 the expectations were a little lower but there were still hopes and last year the higher hopes returned. 2 years ago Met fan #1(Shade) GUARANTEED a division title after you swept the Yanks in June.


Well, I don't know what those other Mets fans were thinking. The team was dreadful in 2003 and 2004 and had 83-79 written all over it coming into the 2005 season (I may never again hit on the Mets exact record as I did last March).

[nyjunc]

Wagner, Sanchez, Bradford, Julio, Padilla are better.


Counting on Dotel? Bold
Wait until the AL east gets a load of Kyles straighter than an arrow fastball. They might take down the blimp flying over the stadium.

I'm not counting on kyle to bring anything more than some toughness. I think Dotel is going to be a nice boost when he's ready and we have enough arms there to get to the best closer of all time.

Farnsworth is better than Julio.

[ShadeTree#55]

Not Sanchez.

[Cakes]

Farnsworth is better than Julio.


Farnsworth is a better steroid user.
Julio is a more prolific eater.
Both are less than adequate as Major League pitchers on contending teams.

[devilonthetownhallroof]

Roger, I will bet you anything you want that Pedro will have a lower ERA, better K/BB, and fewer HR allowed than Randy. Or anyone on the Yankee staff for that matter.

[28rogerblaze51]

You should bet me if pedro has a winning record period.

[devilonthetownhallroof]

You should bet me if pedro has a winning record period.

Pedro is the best active and third ALL TIME in winning percentage. He has a career record of 197-84, and has had ONE losing record in his career, 1992 when he made his Major League debut, pitched only 8 innings and was 0-1. I don't think you can question his record, but if you'd like, I'll bet anything that he'll be over .500 easily.

[28rogerblaze51]

Pedro is not going to be the opening starter in WBC. Because of his toe... And it starts the injuries.... Hahaha and he is supposed to be healthy all year ahahahahaha. Yankees rule mets drool.

[devilonthetownhallroof]

I'm not a Met fan so say that all you'd like. Do you want a bet, or are you scared to back up your big mouth?

[28rogerblaze51]

And those stats has to do with what this season? I dont shoot out stats about randy because this is a new season.. Just ask beltran when he was in the astros then played with the mets the next year.

[nyjunc]

Roger, I will bet you anything you want that Pedro will have a lower ERA, better K/BB, and fewer HR allowed than Randy. Or anyone on the Yankee staff for that matter.

Of course he will pitching in a much bigger park against much weaker hitting tams.

[28rogerblaze51]

I already have abet with someone.
And watch out kid the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire...dont get burned.

[FITM]

I already have abet with someone.
And watch out kid the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire...dont get burned.

I'd be embarresed if I was a Yankee fan to have you backing any of my facts up.

[Exit 117]

Roger. Is the bet to Pitchers/Catcher or until Opening Day?

[28rogerblaze51]

I'd be embarresed if I was a Yankee fan to have you backing any of my facts up.

Say whatever you wish... I dont google shit or look up anything in the pc i go with whats in my head, and if im wrong so what there are intelligent people here who can correct me. Nobody should be scared to be wrong.

@exit 117 the bet has to be at the end of the year? No? Its the only time we will know who had the better season.

[AMJets]

Counting on Dotel? Bold

It's a low risk, high reward situation. Without him, the bullpen is fairly solid. Post AS break, when he builds his arm strength back up, he can provide us with one of the best relief arms in the entire league.

Wait until the AL east gets a load of Kyles straighter than an arrow fastball. They might take down the blimp flying over the stadium.

Too bad he has also developed one of the best sliders in MLB.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

I was really pissed the Mets didn't land Dotel. I always liked him and you're potentially picking up a great reliever for a couple mill in salary. I have no idea why Omar didn't go for this guy, rather then trading starting pitching for other teams cast offs.

[Jets4betterorworse]

I was really pissed the Mets didn't land Dotel. I always liked him and you're potentially picking up a great reliever for a couple mill in salary. I have no idea why Omar didn't go for this guy, rather then trading starting pitching for other teams cast offs.

Do we really need a round two of that?

[3rdAnd15Draw]

Do we really need a round two of that?

Did I miss the thread discussing Dotel?

[Cakes]

If the Mets picked up Dotel, you would have complained about it, Larry. It's your m.o.

[3rdAnd15Draw]

If the Mets picked up Dotel, you would have complained about it, Larry. It's your m.o.

Absolutely. Even though I stated several times before he signed with anyone that I'd love to have Dotel back on the Mets.

[typeOnegative13NY]

Thats it. were having a TGG Bs section field trip. We will attend a Mets/Yankees game and eat at Applebees after. Whos down?

[28rogerblaze51]

Hahaha.... I go with like 10 of my homeboys to the yankee games.... And im not choosing which crowd to chill with.

[28rogerblaze51]

Yankees rule, mets drool.... MWASNY.

[Yisman]

That's very intelligent and compelling commentary there.

[28rogerblaze51]

^thanks just thought it up, it was fascinating to me so had to post it for everyone to see.

[28rogerblaze51]

Had to bump this up....baseball season around the corner.

Mets suck. MWASNY suckas.....

[FirstTimeCaller]

How's Mussina looking?

[28rogerblaze51]

^ well i dont watch spring training, but last i checked mussina had a good game i think it was last week.

How is pedro doing?

[Cakes]

Is Sheffield going to be good this year or will he hold off on the steroids?

[28rogerblaze51]

Dont hate metface, you know schef is better or as good than anybody in your roster, and to add to it schef isnt our best player. So what does that say about your wannabe team?

[Cakes]

Sheffield is a hired gun steriod freak.

[Cakes]

The Yankees have quick playoff ouster written all over them once again. Lethal lineup, spotty middle relief, old starting pitching. The Angels or White Sox'll beat on them in the first round.

[FirstTimeCaller]

^ well i dont watch spring training, but last i checked mussina had a good game i think it was last week.

How is pedro doing?


10 earned runs in 4 innings to the powerhouse of the midwest.... The Tigers! :smile: Great game Moose...

[28rogerblaze51]

^ thats probably because its SPRING TRAINING.....


Pedro is hurt.... Will he recover?
Without him the mets are in big trouble.
And you guys will suck harder than last year.

[28rogerblaze51]

Sheffield is a hired gun steriod freak.

Im sure barry bonds is the bigger roider.

The yankees are too powerful, in the game, buisness, advertisement, consumer spending, shit at everything, you guys should learn from steinbrenner.

And then maybe bigger caliber pitchers and players would want to play there.

[Exit 117]

So what is it like having your head up your ass? Does it hurt?

[28rogerblaze51]

^ i wouldnt know.. But i bet you know how it feels to be miserable for 40 something years, with only 2 years of glee.

[Imagesrdecieving]

Relatively speaking the Mets are much better than the Yankees. We tend to achieve our goals(albeit they are much lower than the Yanks!). When you guys start winning championships again(in a galaxy far far away) then you can start talking again.

Baseball desperately NEEDS a salary cap!

[Exit 117]

Baseball desperately NEEDS a salary cap!I disagree.

[Cakes]

^ i wouldnt know.. But i bet you know how it feels to be miserable for 40 something years, with only 2 years of glee.


I do believe that Exit 117 is far from 40 years of age.

[28rogerblaze51]

Relatively speaking the Mets are much better than the Yankees. We tend to achieve our goals(albeit they are much lower than the Yanks!). When you guys start winning championships again(in a galaxy far far away) then you can start talking again.

Baseball desperately NEEDS a salary cap!

What, you are buggin.

And your right WHEN we start winning championships, but know this, championships last forever therefore forever we can talk.

You said the mets are better and tend to acheive your goals? WTF... Every teams goal is to win a championship and from what i seen, the mets havent won since 1986, thats acheiving a goal? (Losing) then your right.

My boss has the balls to pay the players he wants, do the mets or should i say any team do that?

Maybe if your team start acting like they got money and take advantage of the cap, you will have more revenue, more fans coming to the stadium, and even more money to spend on players.

Thats why the yankees rule in every aspect, winning, and money, you have to spend money to make money.

[Cakes]

^ i wouldnt know.. But i bet you know how it feels to be miserable for 40 something years, with only 2 years of glee.


The Yankees are the only team in U.S. sports whose season is solely dependent upon winning a title. Therefore, they have failed roughly 75% of their history.

[28rogerblaze51]

^i hope owners dont think that because they spend money they are going to be compared to the yankees because of the money being spent will equal the yankees salary, fuck that, no team can or ever be compared to us, so dont worry about that.

[Cakes]

It wasn't too long ago when the Yankees couldn't draw flies to their ballpark.

[28rogerblaze51]

The Yankees are the only team in U.S. sports whose season is solely dependent upon winning a title. Therefore, they have failed roughly 75% of their history.

Haha you just pwned yourself right there..
I rather fail 75% of a century then fail 98.3% do the math. :lol:

26 to 2..... :lol:

[Cakes]

The Yankees are like if a student gets As all year and then fails the final exam.

Or a student who takes practice SATs and does well and then takes it for real and scores an 820.

[Cakes]

Haha you just pwned yourself right there..
I rather fail 75% of a century then fail 98.3% do the math. :lol:

26 to 2..... :lol:


The Yankees also lead in more seasons without a title.

[28rogerblaze51]

It wasn't too long ago when the Yankees couldn't draw flies to their ballpark.

Haha your talking about the 80's not long ago wtf, thats like almost 20 years ago.

And its true we were bad back then, but we still drew enough fans to make a profit, dont compare us to the expos, you guys have never drawn over 3.6 million fans. We have drawn over 4 million 2 or 3 years in a row, and averaged about 3.7 a year, in the 90's and on.

[28rogerblaze51]

The Yankees also lead in more seasons without a title.

OMG you are killing yourself...stop it your making my stomach hurt :lol: :lol:

If anything every other team in baseball with the exception of the teams who won in the past 5 years have the longest streak without a title.... Your crazy man.

[Cakes]

You didn't catch my point.

Point is comparing the Yankees entire history to the Mets entire history is highly questionable at best and downright ludicrous at worst. It is not right to compare full histories of a team that has been around since 1901 to a team that has been around since 1962.
So when you want to talk about 20 World Series titles that occurred before you were born (you're 32, right?), I'll bring up all the many years that the Yankees failed to succeed because they've also done that more than the Mets have. You can look it up.

If anybody here wants to compare the Mets entire history with other teams, you should do so with the Angels, Royals, Astros, Senators-Rangers, Pilots-Brewers, Expos-Nationals, and Padres.

If you want to compare the Yankees entire history with other teams do so with the Tigers, White Sox, Red Sox, Athletics, Senators-Twins, Indians, Browns-Orioles, Pirates, Dodgers, Braves, Reds, Cubs, Cardinals, Phillies, and Giants.

You want to dump the 26 titles on another group of fans, go at fans of the teams that have been in existence since 1901.

You've lived through six WS titles. You were probably too young to care or notice in 1977 and 1978. Therefore, you've really only experienced four of the 26.

Let's put this in NFL terms. If Bears fans came onto this site and started talking about all the NFL championships the team won prior to the Jets inception, they'd get blasted by many Jets fans here. We'd be writing stuff like-
"Well, the Jets won as many Super Bowls as the Bears."

"Big deal. They won a bunch of those NFL titles when there were only like 12 teams in the entire league."

"I would hope the Bears won more NFL titles than the Jets- they've only had a 40-year head start."

[duketogo]

I dunno man, rooting for the Yankees seems sort of pointless to me. Any time you don't win a championship, the season is considered a total failure. They have raised the bar for themselves too high.

[Cakes]

I dunno man, rooting for the Yankees seems sort of pointless to me. Any time you don't win a championship, the season is considered a total failure. They have raised the bar for themselves too high.


I agree with this 100%.

[AMJets]

I dunno man, rooting for the Yankees seems sort of pointless to me. Any time you don't win a championship, the season is considered a total failure. They have raised the bar for themselves too high.

There's nothing wrong with expecting a championship every year, especially from a team with the talent that the Yankees have.

[NewEra06]

METS SUCK!! THEY REALLY REALLY SUCK!!METS SUCK!!THEY REALLY REALLY SUCK!! Just thought i would lets you guys know how i feel.

[duketogo]

METS SUCK!! THEY REALLY REALLY SUCK!!METS SUCK!!THEY REALLY REALLY SUCK!! Just thought i would lets you guys know how i feel.
That song would sound better if you inserted Yankees where the Mets are, as the syllables would match the song.

[Exit 117]

Maybe if your team start acting like they got money and take advantage of the cap, you will have more revenue, more fans coming to the stadium, and even more money to spend on players.

Thats why the yankees rule in every aspect, winning, and money, you have to spend money to make money.
The Yankees lost $86M last year. So much for that theory.

Let us not forget the first NY team to have 3 million fans in their stadium in a single season. Not only did they do it before the Yankees, it took the Yankees 10 years to match it.

[28rogerblaze51]

You didn't catch my point.

Point is comparing the Yankees entire history to the Mets entire history is highly questionable at best and downright ludicrous at worst. It is not right to compare full histories of a team that has been around since 1901 to a team that has been around since 1962.
So when you want to talk about 20 World Series titles that occurred before you were born (you're 32, right?), I'll bring up all the many years that the Yankees failed to succeed because they've also done that more than the Mets have. You can look it up.

If anybody here wants to compare the Mets entire history with other teams, you should do so with the Angels, Royals, Astros, Senators-Rangers, Pilots-Brewers, Expos-Nationals, and Padres.

If you want to compare the Yankees entire history with other teams do so with the Tigers, White Sox, Red Sox, Athletics, Senators-Twins, Indians, Browns-Orioles, Pirates, Dodgers, Braves, Reds, Cubs, Cardinals, Phillies, and Giants.

You want to dump the 26 titles on another group of fans, go at fans of the teams that have been in existence since 1901.

You've lived through six WS titles. You were probably too young to care or notice in 1977 and 1978. Therefore, you've really only experienced four of the 26.

Let's put this in NFL terms. If Bears fans came onto this site and started talking about all the NFL championships the team won prior to the Jets inception, they'd get blasted by many Jets fans here. We'd be writing stuff like-
"Well, the Jets won as many Super Bowls as the Bears."

"Big deal. They won a bunch of those NFL titles when there were only like 12 teams in the entire league."

"I would hope the Bears won more NFL titles than the Jets- they've only had a 40-year head start."


Whatever you just said fine, lets start from when the mets were in baseball we still won more championships than you end of story.

[Exit 117]

Whatever you just said fine, lets start from when the mets were in baseball we still won more championships than you end of story.
Yankees fans are fucking pathetic.

[28rogerblaze51]

Yankees fans are fucking pathetic.

:lol: what the hell you want me to do metface? You want me to boast about a gold glove? A batting title? An MVP? No a teams goal is to win championships, thats the only thing you can boast about that hold merit from a teams standpoint, you will never ever understand yankee fans, therefore i do expect you to hate.

When or if you start winning 1 more or maybe even 2 in a row you will understand.

*poof* be gone.

[Exit 117]

:lol: what the hell you want me to do metface? You want me to boast about a gold glove? A batting title? An MVP? No a teams goal is to win championships, thats the only thing you can boast about that hold merit from a teams standpoint, you will never ever understand yankee fans, therefore i do expect you to hate.

When or if you start winning 1 more or maybe even 2 in a row you will understand.

*poof* be gone.
Whatever you say, moron.

[AMJets]

The Yankees lost $86M last year. So much for that theory.

No they didn't. That number doesn't include the money gained from the YES Network, nor from Japan. Those two alone take the Yankees out of the red.

[Imagesrdecieving]

everything in baseball is cyclical. the yanks suffered a very long drought there for a while. Another one is coming.

As mercenary as the yanks were in the 90's - it was all done around a solid core of home grown talent. Guess what - that talent is growing old. You no longer have your farm system as a base. Cano is not Jeter and Wang is not Petite. Even if they were - you are still missing Bernie, Posada and Mariano.

What the Mets have is a nice young core of homegrown players that hopefully can grow to realize their potential and bring home a championship or two. What the Yanks have is a spent farm, aging core and nursing home vets that have been aquired through FA. Good luck with that.

[AMJets]

everything in baseball is cyclical. the yanks suffered a very long drought there for a while. Another one is coming.

As mercenary as the yanks were in the 90's - it was all done around a solid core of home grown talent. Guess what - that talent is growing old. You no longer have your farm system as a base. Cano is not Jeter and Wang is not Petite. Even if they were - you are still missing Bernie, Posada and Mariano.

What the Mets have is a nice young core of homegrown players that hopefully can grow to realize their potential and bring home a championship or two. What the Yanks have is a spent farm, aging core and nursing home vets that have been aquired through FA. Good luck with that.

Yankees low-mid level prospects are among the best in the baseball. Cano isn't Jeter, and Wang isn't Pettitte, but those two are among the weakest overall talents the Yankees have among their prospects.

Other than Rivera, no single player the Yankees developed during their dynasty run are as good as the Yankees top two current prospects, Philip Hughes and Jose Tabata. Scouts compare Hughes to Clemens, and they will tell you that Tabata has the bat of Manny Ramirez, the range and glove of Andruw Jones (in his prime fielding years), and the speed of Jose Reyes. Within the next year or two he will be one of the, if not the number one prospect in all of baseball.

There are more high impact players the Yankees have. It's not to say all these guys will develop into what they should be, especially Hughes and Tabata because the bar has been set so high, but they are not void of talent. Infact, by this time next year, their system will be talked about as one of the best in the game, that is unquestionable.

[Imagesrdecieving]

Any good prospects that you have will be promptly traded at the deadline for more mercenary help.

[AMJets]

Any good prospects that you have will be promptly traded at the deadline for more mercenary help.

Actually, they won't. Cashman doesn't trade young, talented, high ceiling prospects for overpriced free agents. Tampa isn't running the show anymore, Cashman and Michael are. They understand how much talent the Yankees farm system has. They COULD trade one of the younger pitchers, only because the Yankee system is absolutely stacked with high ceiling arms, but this is a totally different mindset these days.

[Imagesrdecieving]

Actually, they won't. Cashman doesn't trade young, talented, high ceiling prospects for overpriced free agents. Tampa isn't running the show anymore, Cashman and Michael are. They understand how much talent the Yankees farm system has. They COULD trade one of the younger pitchers, only because the Yankee system is absolutely stacked with high ceiling arms, but this is a totally different mindset these days.

since when? I'm not trying to be an ass - but it was only two seasons ago that the Yanks were trying to get Randy Johnson at the deadline but couldn't because they didn't have anything that zona liked at the time.

so did it just happen recently that tampa isn't running the show anymore? and I thought ultimately Steinbrenner runs the show - reason why Sheff is in right instead of Vlad.

[Cakes]

Whatever you just said fine, lets start from when the mets were in baseball we still won more championships than you end of story.

Now you're being reasonable.

[FITM]

Yankees fans are fucking pathetic.

Some are...some aren't.

[AMJets]

since when? I'm not trying to be an ass - but it was only two seasons ago that the Yanks were trying to get Randy Johnson at the deadline but couldn't because they didn't have anything that zona liked at the time.

so did it just happen recently that tampa isn't running the show anymore? and I thought ultimately Steinbrenner runs the show - reason why Sheff is in right instead of Vlad.

Tampa was fully in charge after '04. Hell, Cashman has publicly said he didn't even know that the team signed Womack until he read it in the paper the next morning. The only reason Cashman re-signed this winter was because he made Steinbrenner put it in his contract that if a move is made over him, without letting him know or consulting him about it, he can get out of the contract. Randy Johnson, and Sheffield over Vlad, were Tampa moves.

At the deadline in 2004, the Yankees didn't have anything Arizona liked, because their system didn't have much talent. But the Yankees have had two consecutively phenomenal drafts in 2004 and 2005, and have signed multiple international free agents (like Tabata). That's why their A level is loaded with talent all over, and is starting to carry over to AA.

[Exit 117]

Some are...some aren't.
1 in every 1,000 aren't. They aren't even worth saying some.

[Imagesrdecieving]

i thought sheffield was wholly steinbrenner's decision - no?

didn't he take him out to dinner and negotiate the contract himself?

[boomer]

Why is another one of these threads neccesary?

[AMJets]

i thought sheffield was wholly steinbrenner's decision - no?

didn't he take him out to dinner and negotiate the contract himself?

He was. I said Sheffield over Vlad was a Tampa move. Cashman wanted Vlad.

[FirstTimeCaller]

Tampa was fully in charge after '04. Hell, Cashman has publicly said he didn't even know that the team signed Womack until he read it in the paper the next morning. The only reason Cashman re-signed this winter was because he made Steinbrenner put it in his contract that if a move is made over him, without letting him know or consulting him about it, he can get out of the contract. Randy Johnson, and Sheffield over Vlad, were Tampa moves.

At the deadline in 2004, the Yankees didn't have anything Arizona liked, because their system didn't have much talent. But the Yankees have had two consecutively phenomenal drafts in 2004 and 2005, and have signed multiple international free agents (like Tabata). That's why their A level is loaded with talent all over, and is starting to carry over to AA.


10Pennington10 I'd like to know how you're privy to all this inside information... you speak with such authority on these types of situations... you'd think you were a fly on the wall during these meetings. It's also interesting how it mirrors many of your comments on the Rangers except sub Maloney for Cashman and sub Sather/Dolans for George/Tampa.

[Cakes]

Are the Yankees the only team that makes key decisions far away (Tampa) from where the team actually plays?

[AMJets]

10Pennington10 I'd like to know how you're privy to all this inside information... you speak with such authority on these types of situations... you'd think you were a fly on the wall during these meetings. It's also interesting how it mirrors many of your comments on the Rangers except sub Maloney for Cashman and sub Sather/Dolans for George/Tampa.

The Rangers situation is just joining in on the fun Shade has with vinnyfan. I'm fully aware of Sather's capabilities as a scout, and what he can do when he's not overspending (like in Edmonton).

I know all of this about Tampa and Cashman because it's been said in public.

"I told them 'I love this organization,' but that I couldn't stay here in this job under these circumstances. We hadn't even gotten around to the money."

"I had begun my conversation with (Steinbrenner) by telling him that, no matter who he hired, this is how I thought it should be with the chain of command from the owner, to the GM, to the manager.

'It's got to be that way,' I said, 'or it won't work. The players, the press and the fans all have to know that.'"

Bottom line, Cashman wasn't the man in complete control. He had the title of General Manager, but he wasn't making all the decisions. He was against Womack, who Damon Oppenheimer liked, and he was against signing Wright. Notice when Cashman talked about the Wright signing, he always said "Our scouts are the ones who liked him, and told the organization to sign him." And of course, it's public knowledge that Sheffield and Steinbrenner worked out a contract one-on-one, Cashman having no part in the talks.

If you think Cashman was in charge, you're a fool. Cashman and Torre have stated publicly their frustration with Tampa making moves over them. When asked on both Kay's show, and Mike and the Mad Dog, if he had it put in his contract that he could leave if a move was made without consulting him about it, he said yes both times.

[28rogerblaze51]

Why is another one of these threads neccesary?

Are you a metfan? Are you a yankee fans?
And if your not. Your from PA beat it bub.

[28rogerblaze51]

everything in baseball is cyclical. the yanks suffered a very long drought there for a while. Another one is coming.

As mercenary as the yanks were in the 90's - it was all done around a solid core of home grown talent. Guess what - that talent is growing old. You no longer have your farm system as a base. Cano is not Jeter and Wang is not Petite. Even if they were - you are still missing Bernie, Posada and Mariano.

What the Mets have is a nice young core of homegrown players that hopefully can grow to realize their potential and bring home a championship or two. What the Yanks have is a spent farm, aging core and nursing home vets that have been aquired through FA. Good luck with that.

Ahahahahaha OK (said sarcastically)

When are you metfans going to learn.
When we fans argue or discuss about the mets and yankees its not really comparing teams really your not in our level, we argue and discuss with the fans, metfans are the ones who talk trash, and waste energy hating yankees fans smiles on our faces every year, our swagger every year, our shine every year, they get jeolous and hate.

I do not hate the mets, they are boring to watch, maybe its the stadium or fans, but they are boring. I just like arguing with metfans who always have something to say about my yankees when they open theor mouth, or see us talking about the yanks.

You had a chance at bragging rights in 2000, you lost therefore you get no bragging rights. Until you get back on top and face us in the world series.

[ButtleMan]

everything in baseball is cyclical. the yanks suffered a very long drought there for a while. Another one is coming.

As mercenary as the yanks were in the 90's - it was all done around a solid core of home grown talent. Guess what - that talent is growing old. You no longer have your farm system as a base. Cano is not Jeter and Wang is not Petite. Even if they were - you are still missing Bernie, Posada and Mariano.

What the Mets have is a nice young core of homegrown players that hopefully can grow to realize their potential and bring home a championship or two. What the Yanks have is a spent farm, aging core and nursing home vets that have been aquired through FA. Good luck with that.


What core of the Mets is homegrown? Pedro, Delgado, Kaz, Floyd, Beltran, LoDuca, Glavine, Trachsel, Zambrano,Julio, Wagner??????

Wright, Reyes, Heilman & Diaz. Include Milledge if you want but the odds are that Heilman and Diaz will not make it through the season as Mets.

Cano and Wang are a step in the right direction for the Yanks, Phillips and Crosby will contribute this year as back ups and Hughes and Duncan hopefully will stick around.

Dont act like your the Rays. That is a team full of homegrown talent.

[nyscene911]

Ahahahahaha OK (said sarcastically)

When are you metfans going to learn.
When we fans argue or discuss about the mets and yankees its not really comparing teams really your not in our level, we argue and discuss with the fans, metfans are the ones who talk trash, and waste energy hating yankees fans smiles on our faces every year, our swagger every year, our shine every year, they get jeolous and hate.

I do not hate the mets, they are boring to watch, maybe its the stadium or fans, but they are boring. I just like arguing with metfans who always have something to say about my yankees when they open theor mouth, or see us talking about the yanks.

You had a chance at bragging rights in 2000, you lost therefore you get no bragging rights. Until you get back on top and face us in the world series.

You find mets game boring for the same reason a number of mets fans find yankee games boring--they simply don't care about that team. I'm not particularly excited by (NY) Giants games myself.

I find it funny that you accuse Mets fans of being the ones to trashtalk when you have started threads about the Mets no less than three times.
Yankee fans are smiling every year, sure. Until they lose in the playoffs. And then blame it on someone. Soriano is terrible. Bad calls.

[Exit 117]

I just like arguing with metfans who always have something to say about my yankees when they open theor mouth, or see us talking about the yanks.
Blow me, you ignorant hypocrite.

[Cakes]

metfans are the ones who talk trash




Wasn't it you, a Yankees fan, who started this inciteful thread?

Umm, yes it was you.

[28rogerblaze51]

This thread is kind of old, and i started it by reading some threads about the yankees that metfans just so happened to have invaded. And talked trash about. So this is why this thread is here, numbnuts.

[28rogerblaze51]

Exit 117 why the hell do you keep posting? You post nothing but trash. Nothing but gay ass shit. Blow me or eat me. What the fuck is wrong with you? Atleast cakes post stuff that i care to read and am growing to respect him more as he posts. Which is very few metfans i wish their team does well. But for fans like exit 117 i wish they never win a title again, so you cant hate us yankee fans forever.

[Exit 117]

Exit 117 why the hell do you keep posting? You post nothing but trash. Nothing but gay ass shit. Blow me or eat me. What the fuck is wrong with you? Atleast cakes post stuff that i care to read and am growing to respect him more as he posts. Which is very few metfans i wish their team does well. But for fans like exit 117 i wish they never win a title again, so you cant hate us yankee fans forever.I've tried debating with you in the past. I put effort into my posts, just to see your pathetic answers. Cakes made a long post with good points. Your response was pathetic:
Whatever you just said fine, lets start from when the mets were in baseball we still won more championships than you end of story.It's the pathetic, egotistical fans like you that make the Yankees fan base look as ignorant as it does.

[28rogerblaze51]

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[Exit 117]

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[JETSFAN5180]

Blow me, you ignorant hypocrite.


**********************gay alert***************

[Exit 117]

**********************gay alert***************
What is your obesession with homosexuality? And if someone was gay, who cares anyway?

[JETSFAN5180]

mr.met looks and is gay especially when he sings that song "beat the Mets"

[Theo Huxtable]

**********************gay alert***************
Whats with your fasination with the word gay and cocksuckers?:grin:

[JETSFAN5180]

What is your obesession with homosexuality? And if someone was gay, who cares anyway?

i dont care its a free world

[JETSFAN5180]

Whats with your fasination with the word gay and cocksuckers?:grin:


none but other members feel the need to associate gayness and certan people except when it involves them they act stupid and clueless

[28rogerblaze51]

Just because you grew up near Yankee stadium doesn't mean you are egotistical, arrogant, and hypocritical. I don't doubt your faith; I do doubt you jumped the bandwagon, judging by your posts. But just because you are a true fan, in a way, doesn't make you any less hypocritical than the bandwagon jumping fools.

Man im just chillin right now, sometimes i act like im just being too childish with it.

But like i said i grew up near it seeing it everyday so when i passed by it alot of memories come up, including myself playing, as well as we beating the mets. In 2000. So deal with it.

[Theo Huxtable]

none but other members feel the need to associate gayness and certan people except when it involves them they act stupid and clueless
No they only associate with you because the only thing you reply an insult with
is either gay ore cocksucker people wouldn't think you were so gay if had more original comebacks.(This is not an insult just a matter of advise)

[Exit 117]

Man im just chillin right now, sometimes i act like im just being too childish with it.

But like i said i grew up near it seeing it everyday so when i passed by it alot of memories come up, including myself playing, as well as we beating the mets. In 2000. So deal with it.
Ok, so my understanding is this:
- You admit you act childish.
- I admit I act childish.
- You admit that you're a true Yankee fan.
- I admit you're a true Yankee fan.
- You constantly bash the Mets.
- You also say that you don't mind them.
- If we try to defend the Mets, you ignore what we say and bring up your stupid history that you weren't alive to see.
- When we get fed up with it, we're the immature idiots.

[Theo Huxtable]

Ok, so my understanding is this:
- You admit you act childish.
- I admit I act childish.
- You admit that you're a true Yankee fan.
- I admit you're a true Yankee fan.
- You constantly bash the Mets.
- You also say that you don't mind them.
- If we try to defend the Mets, you ignore what we say and bring up your stupid history that you weren't alive to see.
- When we get fed up with it, we're the immature idiots.
Somebody just got
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[jetfaninwisconsin]

let me put an end to this all....mets suck, yankees suck, everyone sucks, except the brewers....ok?

[nyscene911]

let me put an end to this all....mets suck, yankees suck, everyone sucks, except the brewers....ok?
Well the Brewers definately have the coolest logo, IMO.

[jetfaninwisconsin]

well, thats a start, lol....how long did it take you to find that it had an m and a b?

[nyscene911]

Till last year, when I think you mentioned it on this board :lol: Its very clever.

[jetfaninwisconsin]

yeah, and now every sunday homegame, they're going back to the old logo, hopefully next year, they'll go back permanatly...

[Exit 117]

I love that logo so much.

[Learn To Swim]

I love that logo so much.Seriously, it's awesome.
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I bought one of those a couple of years ago.

[Cakes]

It is an optical illusion. I always saw a glove. Then it was only a couple months ago when I looked at an old Brewers baseball card and I saw the M and B.

[Exit 117]

Seriously, it's awesome.
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I bought one of those a couple of years ago.
Jake Blaylock is a tool.

[AMJets]

It is an optical illusion. I always saw a glove. Then it was only a couple months ago when I looked at an old Brewers baseball card and I saw the M and B.

I just noticed that recently, too.

[28rogerblaze51]

Somebody just got
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I got mcowned? Hahaha whatever get of his nutsack. Before i put rat poison on your cookies.

[Learn To Swim]

It is an optical illusion. I always saw a glove. Then it was only a couple months ago when I looked at an old Brewers baseball card and I saw the M and B.It's like the Expos logo.
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The M just looks kind of like a blob, the white thing made me think it was an L, the B for Baseball is kind of pointless.

weird logo

[stinkyB]

too early for this thread.

[Cakes]

I used to read it as "elb". I think it is meant as Montreal Expos Baseball with a M, E, and B.

The Washington State Cougars is another team that has a logo in the same vein.

[28rogerblaze51]

Nice defense metfaces.... Astros were amazed by your defensive magic.

What you going to say about the yankees?

10-1 lets see what you invent.

[FrankTheTank]

Nice defense metfaces.... Astros were amazed by your defensive magic.

What you going to say about the yankees?

10-1 lets see what you invent.
You do know its still pre-season baseball dont you?

[deviljets7]

Nice defense metfaces.... Astros were amazed by your defensive magic.

What you going to say about the yankees?

10-1 lets see what you invent.

If you're really going to resort to using ST baseball to back up your sorry mets bashing, care to explain why the Mets are 14-10 and the Yanks are a spirited 12-13? (awaiting response how march baseball is meaningless)

[abyzmul]

You know, this thread has the funniest title ever. It's just so blunt.

[28rogerblaze51]

Well metfaces it was one of your metfans who started with the spring training bashing, you can read it yourself if you wish.. Just look back 2 pages last page, just read. How convenient metfans only remember what they want.

[Exit 117]

Forget waiting for the Yankees & Mets to play each other, blaze. Sig bet. I challenge you. If Mets have a better record than the Yankees, you wear a sig of my choice from the end of the regular season until pitchers & catchers of the next season (2007). If both make the playoffs, then it goes to whichever team goes farther. If the Yankees have a better record than the Mets, I wear a sig of your choice from the end of the regular season until pitchers & catchers of the next season (2007). Deal? Back up your talk with a bet, big man.
Guys, guys, i will start a thread like this every year until i die. Im a new yorker and the fans always go at it..its nature.

I know our division we have to face them every year that can be left unsaid. But the mets and yankees fans going at it is tradition.

The yankees have a history of winning and the mets have a history of losing. Thats why this thread is here.

The GYC thread ha talk to me when that thread produces good arguments and not posting GYC 2,000 times.

Exit 117 you want a sig bet fine you got it.
Look i say the mets suck because im a yankee fan they are a good team on paper but when your FO pulled of those trades for pitchers...ha man those guys dont know what the hell they are doing. Even metfans agree with this.

Players dont really want to play for the mets they just want a check...now ask a player any player any level, who would they rather play for yankees or mets? Who do you think they will say? Carlos beltran the latest proof.

Sure randy is old and so is pedro... But giving history of the 2 pitchers who would you think will make a comeback? Randy has done it b4.

Glavine and mussina, this year is mussinas hoorah year where he actually gives it his all, glavine might do the same but i just dont feel it.

Trachsel and pavano...who the hell said pavano is old? Hahaha trachsel will not shine at all this season and pavano has something to prove. With that said i think pavano will have the better year.

Chien ming wang is a rookie that is shining right now like pettitte did back then...can the mets say that about anybody in their staff now? Minor leaguers dont count. Because they havent pitched in the majors yet wang has and done exceptional.

Yankees rule. Mets drool.
MWASNY.
5 outs away, buddy.

[BIG COUNTRY]

It's like the Expos logo.
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The M just looks kind of like a blob, the white thing made me think it was an L, the B for Baseball is kind of pointless.

weird logo
Ma I the only one that thinks the red and white part looks like a ....nvmnd.

[Exit 117]

5 outs away, buddy.
Your sig will be ready soon enough.

[jetsaholic1094]

He doesn't even post here anymore.

[ThunderbirdJet]

How many people got banned today?

[Exit 117]

He doesn't even post here anymore.
Last Activity: 09-29-2006 08:19 PM


Even if he barely posts, it is well worth it.

[jetsaholic1094]

How many people got banned today?

I think only LTS got suspended today, and that was for calling some guy's dad a bi-sexual or something.

[Hazardous Waters]

Ecko got a day off, as well.

[17a_tailgater]

I think only LTS got suspended today, and that was for calling some guy's dad a bi-sexual or something.
who is LTS

[Exit 117]

who is LTS
Learn_To_Swim

[jets1960]

:jets: :shit: :finssuck: OFF TOPIC :drunk:

[Sundayjack]

Yo Rog! Holla atcha boys.

[nyscene911]

Hahahahahaha, awesome :up: