NFL Preseason Preview - N.Y. Jets vs Atlanta Falcons

[PMCRW]

The Atlanta Falcons will begin their preseason schedule minus the services of quarterback Michael Vick on Friday night, when Bobby Petrino's club travels to meet the New York Jets in the preseason opener for both squads.
Vick has been barred from training camp while the NFL investigates his recent federal indictment stemming from charges of participating in dogfighting- related activities. The quarterback is scheduled for trial on Nov. 26th, and his return to the field remains in question.

With the team's highest-profile player on indefinite hiatus, new Atlanta head coach Bobby Petrino will try to get his offense untracked with Joey Harrington at the controls. Harrington, who has started 66 games in a five-year NFL career spent with the Lions and Dolphins, is expected to appear only briefly on Friday before yielding to backups Chris Redman, D.J. Shockley, and perhaps Lang Campbell.

In addition to Vick, the Falcons will be without starting running back Warrick Dunn on Friday night.

Vick is expected to miss most of the preseason due to a back injury, and will be replaced in the starting lineup by second-year man Jerious Norwood.

The homestanding Jets, meanwhile, will take to the field for the first time since a loss to the New England Patriots in an AFC Wild Card game this past January. Eric Mangini's young squad shocked the NFL world by reaching the postseason in the first place, going 10-6 and earning Mangini scores of accolades during his initial year on the job.

Jets starters should not see a wealth of time on Friday, in keeping with early preseason tradition, which means just a few snaps for quarterback Chad Pennington before backups Kellen Clemens and Marques Tuiasosopo take over.

The team's most significant offseason addition, former Bears running back Thomas Jones, should appear only briefly as well.

New York is not expected to have the services of rookie cornerback Darrelle Revis at all on Friday. Revis, the No. 14 overall pick out of Pittsburgh, is embroiled in a contract holdout which is unlikely to be resolved in time for the player to be on the field.

Revis was one of two remaining rookie holdouts as the first full week of preseason approached, with the other being top pick JaMarcus Russell of the Raiders.

The Falcons and Jets have split eight preseason meetings all-time, with Atlanta evening the series by virtue of a 20-10 victory at Giants Stadium prior to 2001.

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[WhiteShoeWillis]

D.J. Shockley impressed me in preseason last year. Watch him if you haven't seen him yet.

[Section 227, Row 5]

Jets starters should not see a wealth of time on Friday, in keeping with early preseason tradition, which means just a few snaps for quarterback Chad Pennington before backups Kellen Clemens and Marques Tuiasosopo take over.

I know my opinion will be cause for debate, but I wish our 1st team, especially Pennington, could play a little longer in some of these preseason games. And yeah, I know, injuries, etc., are a problem.

But there have been times recently, especially on opening day, where I've felt that Pennington still looked like he needed more reps beforehand in a real, game-like situation. He looked really rusty to me, to the point of major concern.

I know we gave him exceptionally light duty in the past two years because of his ongoing recovery, but that was then and this year is now. And I know the rusks of injury, but if I were Mangini this year, I'd be giving Penny more than a couple of token snaps in some of these games, particularly if he's getting good protection. He needs the work and the rest of the 1st team does also, if we're going to have any chance at all of beating the Patriots.

In my mind, we need to get the season "rolling" before the Patriots game, not walk into it with limited playing time and not having the timing down perfect, because this is a game in which we cannot afford to be the slightest bit "rusty." I'm tired of the "rusty" excuses in the past, we need to come out firing on all 8 cylinders.

[NYJ 13A]

Section 227,

My guess is Mangini will go with the similar routine he did last year, which was a gradual flow into having Pennington and the first team play alsmost 3 Qtrs. of football in the last pre-season game, if I remember correctly. Not that I'll be at the games because I'd rathe have the real feel of the upper tier for September 9th. I think I may lose my cool that morning when I wake up.

[Section 227, Row 5]

I think I may lose my cool that morning when I wake up.

I'm going to have the same problem. In fact, I may have my wife drive us to the stadium for the Pats game. It's kind of hard to drive in the fetal position.

[Hemi]

Will be good to see our old friend John Abraham again? j/k

That trade looks good now, doesnt it?

He has proven to be just as injury prone as he was with the Jets.

[Section 227, Row 5]

Will be good to see our old friend John Abraham again? j/k

That trade looks good now, doesnt it?

He has proven to be just as injury prone as he was with the Jets.

The only thing that would have made the trade better is if he had gone to the Chiefs!:beer:

[Joe W. Namath]

But there have been times recently, especially on opening day, where I've felt that Pennington still looked like he needed more reps beforehand in a real, game-like situation.

Chad had the best game of his career last year, opening day in Tennesse.

[RobA]

Should be fun to watch tomorrow, the first couple drives atleast.

[Section 227, Row 5]

Chad had the best game of his career last year, opening day in Tennesse.

Yeah, well I guess I was thinking of the opening day at Arrowhead two years ago. Between Herm's camp and so little reps in preseason, we looked like shit out there, especially Penny.

[Section 227, Row 5]

Should be fun to watch tomorrow, the first couple drives atleast.

Yeah, I can't wait. I'd really like to see our 1st team against theirs for as long as possible. This is always a good game for the rookies...their first taste of being at home in the Meadowlands.

[rillo]

I wanna see Clemens!

[Section 227, Row 5]

I wanna see Clemens!

Yeah, Clemens and a little Brad Smith thrown in! I'm stoked!

[WhiteShoeWillis]

Should be fun to watch tomorrow, the first couple drives atleast.

I'm excited to see how Clemens and Smith do at QB. Also can't wait to see Stuckey in action - he should get a good amount of time. Harris and our Guards will be other positions of interest.

SNY shows that it is replaying the game at 11PM tomorrow, but last year they said the same thing a couple of times only to show god damn billiards.

[ThunderbirdJet]

Wow, I would not want to lose a starter in the first preseason game. I'd be upset if they play into the second quarter. I think it's more important to see the long shots, guys who can contribute, while there is still time to coach them up. For instance, I din't think there is room enough for both Stuckey and Jackson... let them get the reps so the CS can evaluate each player based on more available film, etc.

This is when the CS has to make some big decisions... like Wadsworth, Trusnik, Haynes.... not to mention guys like Bender who need the reps far more than the starters do.

[Section 227, Row 5]

I'm excited to see how Clemens and Smith do at QB. Also can't wait to see Stuckey in action - he should get a good amount of time. Harris and our Guards will be other positions of interest.

SNY shows that it is replaying the game at 11PM tomorrow, but last year they said the same thing a couple of times only to show god damn billiards.

They used to not show the game live at all b/c it wasn't sold out... so you had to freakin' wait until 11PM or midnight, a real PITA.

[WhiteShoeWillis]

They used to not show the game live at all b/c it wasn't sold out... so you had to freakin' wait until 11PM or midnight, a real PITA.

With Time Warner in upstate NY I rarely get to see a Jets preseason game. I'm hoping that Vicks case puts this one on live. If not, I'll just have to hope SNY doesn't cheese out with the billiards again. Who the hell would ever watch billiards anyway? I'd rather wackoff with 80 grit sandpaper.

[gustoonarmy]

Starting to feel the adrenelin now. This time tomorrow I'll have finished work and getting ready for pre-season YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :beer:

[Section 227, Row 5]

Wow, I would not want to lose a starter in the first preseason game. I'd be upset if they play into the second quarter. I think it's more important to see the long shots, guys who can contribute, while there is still time to coach them up. For instance, I din't think there is room enough for both Stuckey and Jackson... let them get the reps so the CS can evaluate each player based on more available film, etc.

This is when the CS has to make some big decisions... like Wadsworth, Trusnik, Haynes.... not to mention guys like Bender who need the reps far more than the starters do.

I hear you, buddy, and you're right, of course. In a typical year this is the conventional wisdom.

But the start of the season this year is very different to me... this year in particular. I'm very concerned about that first Pats game. I think it will set the tone for the entire year (and yeah, I know one game shouldn't, and if we lose, the CS will be saying "it's only one game, put it behind you" etc.). The Pats in our house... our starters can't have any "rust." I don't want to hear that.

I'm just saying we have to hit the ground running in this first game. We can't lose this game, it's that simple. I know I'm over-reacting, but to me, this first game might as well be the first round of the playoffs, that's how much will be riding on it. The Pats can't beat us in our house in this first game, they just can't be allowed to do that. Otherwise, they're on a roll and have our number all season. But if we can reverse that, and get the win, then we set the tone for going up to their house later this fall. I see the AFC East boiling down to these two teams.

So, yeah, I see your point about bringing along the rooks, but in my mind, not at the expense of having somebody tell me "Well, Penny was a little rusty in this one because, after all, he hasn't had enough reps." Or that the offense isn't completely "jelled" either. I just won't accept that this year... don't want to hear that as an excuse. Our 1st team has to hit the ground running and already on a roll if we have any chance at all of beating these corksockers.

[illmatic]

I'm actually looking forward to seeing the 2nd teamers...having heard so much about them in the tc post and from the reporters - seeing them live will be a welcome part of the game

[JUNJOBX2199]

I know my opinion will be cause for debate, but I wish our 1st team, especially Pennington, could play a little longer in some of these preseason games. And yeah, I know, injuries, etc., are a problem.

But there have been times recently, especially on opening day, where I've felt that Pennington still looked like he needed more reps beforehand in a real, game-like situation. He looked really rusty to me, to the point of major concern.

I know we gave him exceptionally light duty in the past two years because of his ongoing recovery, but that was then and this year is now. And I know the rusks of injury, but if I were Mangini this year, I'd be giving Penny more than a couple of token snaps in some of these games, particularly if he's getting good protection. He needs the work and the rest of the 1st team does also, if we're going to have any chance at all of beating the Patriots.

In my mind, we need to get the season "rolling" before the Patriots game, not walk into it with limited playing time and not having the timing down perfect, because this is a game in which we cannot afford to be the slightest bit "rusty." I'm tired of the "rusty" excuses in the past, we need to come out firing on all 8 cylinders.
I cant remember when or if ever they have the straters go for more then 4-6 snap's. Around the last or second to last is when you see a full Quarter of play. Im with you when you talk about the "Rust" You hear in practice threads about the offense looking out of sink and hoping they dont carry that over into the regular season ; especially with New England as our first opponent.

[JUNJOBX2199]

Im really loomking foward to seeing Brad Smith behind center. I think the order in which the QB's appear will be very telling in terms of who's got the Leg up for 2nd and 3rd spots.

[PMCRW]

I'm actually looking forward to seeing the 2nd teamers...having heard so much about them in the tc post and from the reporters - seeing them live will be a welcome part of the game

Totally. I know our starters are good and we wont really get to see them in full effect till later in preseason.

Im really loomking foward to seeing Brad Smith behind center. I think the order in which the QB's appear will be very telling in terms of who's got the Leg up for 2nd and 3rd spots.

Cant wait for that either. i hope they let him sling it a bit. I wanna see him bomb it downfield...

[ThunderbirdJet]

I hear you, buddy, and you're right, of course. In a typical year this is the conventional wisdom.

But the start of the season this year is very different to me... this year in particular. I'm very concerned about that first Pats game. I think it will set the tone for the entire year (and yeah, I know one game shouldn't, and if we lose, the CS will be saying "it's only one game, put it behind you" etc.). The Pats in our house... our starters can't have any "rust." I don't want to hear that.

I'm just saying we have to hit the ground running in this first game. We can't lose this game, it's that simple. I know I'm over-reacting, but to me, this first game might as well be the first round of the playoffs, that's how much will be riding on it. The Pats can't beat us in our house in this first game, they just can't be allowed to do that. Otherwise, they're on a roll and have our number all season. But if we can reverse that, and get the win, then we set the tone for going up to their house later this fall. I see the AFC East boiling down to these two teams.

So, yeah, I see your point about bringing along the rooks, but in my mind, not at the expense of having somebody tell me "Well, Penny was a little rusty in this one because, after all, he hasn't had enough reps." Or that the offense isn't completely "jelled" either. I just won't accept that this year... don't want to hear that as an excuse. Our 1st team has to hit the ground running and already on a roll if we have any chance at all of beating these corksockers.

Well, I think this year's TC has been very different than last year's. Pennington was named the starter, and since he isn't battling a Ramsey or any other QB's, he's gotten most of the first team reps in TC. That alone will make a difference. Last year he was sharing a lot of first team snaps.

Sure, it would be great to beat the Pats in week one, but it's a 16 game season. We were what, 4-4 last year and still made the playoffs. I also remember a year we were 10-0.... and it wasn't a happy ending. We NEED kids like Bender to improve by leaps and bounds if the running game is to be any better than last year. Establishing a ground attack is more important than winning the Pats game. If we can get Washington and Jones running well enough to force teams to game plan against and worry about the ground attack, the rest of the pieces will fall into place. (short of losing the entire freakin seconday to injuries).

[Section 227, Row 5]

Hi T~Bird,

Your point is well taken about TC this year and about Penny getting more reps. That's good, very good. And I'm very happy about that (him taking more snaps). And he's healthier and more ready this year, no question. But I also know the only way we beat the Pats this year is to have the offense really clicking. And this has to be right out of the box in that game.

Belichick knows he can't beat us with Brady sitting on the bench, so he'll have his DEF really primed to stop our offense. This makes it all the more imperative that we're really humming and we move chains and consume beaucoup time off the clock and that means everyone on offense has to be really clicking.

I think Penny and the rest of our offense is capable of doing that, but there's no room for on-the-job training and a slow start to the season. And we won't win that game with 13 or 17 ponts either. These have to be sustained, time-consuming, beat them up, hard-fought yards and SCORES when we approach the red zone.

I know we can lose that first game and still make the playoffs, but damn... that would be one nice win and would go a long way for our confidence too. All I'm saying is, I'd like to see the 1st team playing at least the first quarter, especially since we don't know exactly what we have with Clarke yet and he'll need the reps. If Kendall is in there, better yet, but who knows if he'll even be here by then. My main point is, this is a year in which we can't have a slow start. We have to hit mid-season stride early, as in Game One. In that game, whichever team shows up ready to play and play as flawlessly as possible, that's the team that'll set the tone for the AFC East this year.

[MarionBarber31]

Got this link off the jets webpage. 23 pages of info about tomorrow's game Vs. Atlanta. Lot's of good stuff for all those out there jones'n for for some real (preseason) football...

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[EarlytoRise]

Hi T~Bird,

Your point is well taken about TC this year and about Penny getting more reps. That's good, very good. And I'm very happy about that (him taking more snaps). And he's healthier and more ready this year, no question. But I also know the only way we beat the Pats this year is to have the offense really clicking. And this has to be right out of the box in that game.

Belichick knows he can't beat us with Brady sitting on the bench, so he'll have his DEF really primed to stop our offense. This makes it all the more imperative that we're really humming and we move chains and consume beaucoup time off the clock and that means everyone on offense has to be really clicking.

I think Penny and the rest of our offense is capable of doing that, but there's no room for on-the-job training and a slow start to the season. And we won't win that game with 13 or 17 ponts either. These have to be sustained, time-consuming, beat them up, hard-fought yards and SCORES when we approach the red zone.

I know we can lose that first game and still make the playoffs, but damn... that would be one nice win and would go a long way for our confidence too. All I'm saying is, I'd like to see the 1st team playing at least the first quarter, especially since we don't know exactly what we have with Clarke yet and he'll need the reps. If Kendall is in there, better yet, but who knows if he'll even be here by then. My main point is, this is a year in which we can't have a slow start. We have to hit mid-season stride early, as in Game One. In that game, whichever team shows up ready to play and play as flawlessly as possible, that's the team that'll set the tone for the AFC East this year.

Agreed. Good posts. I'm probably going to need some tranquilizers for opening day.

[Jetcane]

I'm actually looking forward to seeing the 2nd teamers...having heard so much about them in the tc post and from the reporters - seeing them live will be a welcome part of the game

Agreed. After having watched them a bunch of times at Hofstra, i am looking forward to seeing how the 2d and 3rd teamers do in some "real" action.

I root for all of them to do well, of course.

Believe me, the coaches will be looking at the film of some of the guys who are on the edge of the 53 man roster. Those guys know this is an opportunity to do well and get noticed...and maybe get a job in the NFL. They havent been out there in the heat and humidity working their butts off for nuthin'.

[Section 227, Row 5]

I'm probably going to need some tranquilizers for opening day.

I've already told my wife she's driving to the Pats game and that's all there is to it.

I simply can't drive in the fetal position anymore. It's hard enough getting me into the car in that position let alone the suspicion it arouses with the local police if they see me driving with my knees up around my chin and using the cruise control stalk as an accelerator.

I'm better off curled up in the back seat with my Game-Face pillow, listening to Mike and the Mad Dog talk about how the Giants are doing.

[dwalsh]

I bet Petrino really wishes that he kept Matt Schaub now...

[MarionBarber31]

I bet Petrino really wishes that he kept Matt Schaub now...

Oh God yeah. Who knew? two weeks after the trade, the dog poop hit the fan!

[Run_N_gun10]

I hear you, buddy, and you're right, of course. In a typical year this is the conventional wisdom.

But the start of the season this year is very different to me... this year in particular. I'm very concerned about that first Pats game. I think it will set the tone for the entire year (and yeah, I know one game shouldn't, and if we lose, the CS will be saying "it's only one game, put it behind you" etc.). The Pats in our house... our starters can't have any "rust." I don't want to hear that.

I'm just saying we have to hit the ground running in this first game. We can't lose this game, it's that simple. I know I'm over-reacting, but to me, this first game might as well be the first round of the playoffs, that's how much will be riding on it. The Pats can't beat us in our house in this first game, they just can't be allowed to do that. Otherwise, they're on a roll and have our number all season. But if we can reverse that, and get the win, then we set the tone for going up to their house later this fall. I see the AFC East boiling down to these two teams.

So, yeah, I see your point about bringing along the rooks, but in my mind, not at the expense of having somebody tell me "Well, Penny was a little rusty in this one because, after all, he hasn't had enough reps." Or that the offense isn't completely "jelled" either. I just won't accept that this year... don't want to hear that as an excuse. Our 1st team has to hit the ground running and already on a roll if we have any chance at all of beating these corksockers.

Moreso, I see the Jets' losing there 1st 2 games. I just hope they don't have any major injuries in those 2 loses. Then the Jets' & MAngini will re-group & make the necessary adjustments & make there play-off run. And if they don't recover from there 1st 2 loses....Get ready for a high draft pick next year.

[NYJet87]

anyone there wanna bark with me while the falcons come out?

[DOOM]

Will be good to see our old friend John Abraham again? j/k

That trade looks good now, doesnt it?

He has proven to be just as injury prone as he was with the Jets.

And how! (regarding Abe.)

[JeTsFaN_in_SoUtHFloRiDa]

is this game gonna be on direct TV if you have outa town sports package + sunday ticket?

[JUNJOBX2199]

There goes that theory. Last night they left Payton in there for a full quarter. I would never have thought that would happen. Romo as well. Will the Jets do the same? I hope not.

[MarionBarber31]

There goes that theory. Last night they left Payton in there for a full quarter. I would never have thought that would happen. Romo as well. Will the Jets do the same? I hope not.

Mangini is on record as saying it will have more to do with the NUMBER of PLAYS than "clock minutes". If the Falcons have 13 minutes of possession time in the first quarter, Penny and the O' starters will definitely still be in during the second quarter.

This makes perfect sense. He wants to see the starters execute a certain number of things. Their success/failure (and that of the Falcons) dictates the number of plays thay are on the field, thus determining the number of opportunities to execute the things he wants to see them do.

[NJrocket24]

Fellas its been a long baseball summer and I can't wait for 7 pm tonight. I made a nice little depth chart and I'm looking foward to seeing the people I've been hearing about.

Season cannot get here soon enough.:gpc:

[PMCRW]

is this game gonna be on direct TV if you have outa town sports package + sunday ticket?

you should contact your cable provider...:breakdance:

[EarlytoRise]

is this game gonna be on direct TV if you have outa town sports package + sunday ticket?

I am pretty sure it will only be replayed at midnight on NFLN.

[BirdBrain]

best of luck tonight. I hope neither team has any major injuries.

[GreenScreen313]

best of luck tonight. I hope neither team has any major injuries.

same goes for minor injuries!

[PMCRW]

best of luck tonight. I hope neither team has any major injuries.

indeed same to you...NOW DIE YOU OPPOSING REBEL SCUM!!!!

[PMCRW]

oh and Avatar of the WEEK:

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awesome.

[Pam]

best of luck tonight. I hope neither team has any major injuries.

Same to you. :)

[redneckjet]

Yeah..No Injuries to either team. Great point about DJ Shockley - that dude is a winner - I'm also interested in seeing how Harrington looks in the new Petrino offense for Atlanta. I think the birds may shock some folks this year. But most of all I can't wait to see Jones in at running back - ATL CAN'T STOP THE RUN!!!

[GreenScreen313]

this is bulldookie! I'm in Albany, the state capital of New York and I just looked at the TV guide channel and it says they're gonna show Bills at Saints. That is so damn annoying.

-tim

[GreenScreen313]

bulldookie I say!

[Section 227, Row 5]

this is bulldookie! I'm in Albany, the state capital of New York and I just looked at the TV guide channel and it says they're gonna show Bills at Saints. That is so damn annoying.

-tim

Move! Do it now!

15 Minutes to kickoff!:jets:

[GreenScreen313]

i live in queens. friggin college...

[PMCRW]

sopcast is starting up. someone confirm this for me cause my is garbled but im running other programs.

[ScotsJet]

All I can see is a screensaver and all I hear is intermittent garbage.