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jasonjets
01-08-2007, 05:13 PM
1. DRAFT
(Saw from another site, that we don't have a 5th or 7th rounder...)

Round 1: Paul Posluszny OLB/ILB Penn State - The Jets need a pass rushing linebacker, and he fits the 3-4 mold perfectly.
Round 2: Michael Bush RB Louisville - The Jets don't have a true #1 RB, Bush will be that in 2007/2008 or, at latest, 2008/2009.
Round 2: Steve Smith WR USC - Although a third WR is not a main need, I think it could really benefit the Jets if they had another strong WR, because it would just add another threat to our unthreatening offense, which is always a plus.
Round 3: Brian Lenoard FB Rutgers - The Jets could let go of B.J. Askew, who hasn't been anything special, and get an amazing, complete package, FB from right here in NJ.
Round 4: Manuel Ramirez RG Texas Tech - Another big offensive lineman to build a great offensive line for the future.
Round 6: Conrad Bolston DT Maryland - Could be a great future nose tackle, something they are lacking now.


2. NOT RE - SIGNINGS

B.J Askew FB
James Hodgins FB
Hank Poteat CB
Rashad Moore DL
Ryan Riddle LB
Sean Ryan TE
Cody Spencer LB


3. RE - SIGNINGS
(The amount is not per year, it is in total)

Anthony Clement OT : 2 years - $1,300,000
Jerricho Cotchery WR : 3 years - $6,000,000
Dave Ball DE : 1 year - $300,000
Bryan Thomas DE/LB : 3 years - $5,000,000
Wade Smith OL : 2 years - $1,000,000


4. FREE AGENCY SIGNINGS
(The amount is not per year, it is in total)

Eric Steinbach RG : 4 years - $12,000,000
Ricky Manning Jr. CB : 4 years - $6,800,000
Damion McIntosh OT : 1 year - $400,000
Antwan Peek DL : 2 years - $1,400,000
T.J. Slaughter OLB : 2 years - $900,000


5. CUTS

Derrick Blaylock RB
Ben Hamilton DE
Tim Dwight WR
Sione Pouha DT
Kimo Von Oelhoffen DL (Likely retiree)


6. 2007/2008 NEW YORK JETS ROSTER
(Players at each position go in order of playing time - highest to lowest)



--- OFFENSE ---


Quarterback:
Chad Pennington
Kellen Clemens
Patrick Ramsey

Runningback:
Michael Bush
Leon Washington
Cedric Houston
Kevan Barlow

Fullback:

Brian Lenoard

Wide Reciever One:
Laveranues Coles
Steve Smith
Justin McCareins

Wide Reciever Two:
Jerricho Cotchery
Brad Smith

Tight End:
Chris Baker
Jason Pociask
James Dearth

Left Tackle:
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Damion McIntosh

Left Guard:
Pete Kendall
Wade Smith

Center:
Nick Mangold
Trey Teague

Right Guard:
Eric Steinbeck
Brandon Moore
Manuel Ramirez

Right Tackle:
Anthony Clement
Adrian Jones



--- DEFENSE ---


Right Defensive End:
Bryan Thomas
Dave Ball

Defensive / Nose Tackle:
Dewayne Robertson
C.J. Mosley
Conrad Bolston

Left Defensive End:
Shaun Ellis
Antwan Peek

Right Outside Linebacker:
Victor Hobson
Matt Chatham

Right Inside Linebacker:
Jonathan Vilma
Brad Kassell

Left Inside Linebacker:
Eric Barton
Anthony Schlegel

Left Outside Linebacker:
Paul Posluszny
T.J. Slaughter

Cornerback One:
Andre Dyson
Justin Miller
Drew Coleman

Cornerback Two:
Ricky Manning Jr.
David Barrett

Free Safety:
Kerry Rhodes
Rashad Washington

Strong Safety:
Eric Coleman
Eric Smith



--- SPECIAL TEAMS ---


Kicker:
Mike Nugent

Punter:
Ben Graham

Kick Off Returners:
Justin Miller
Leon Washington

Rambo13
01-08-2007, 05:17 PM
You obviously put a lot of thought and effort into this so I won't be too harsh, but Thomas is not a 3-4 end and from everything I heard Posluzny would be incapable of playing in the 3-4, especially on the outside.

jasonjets
01-08-2007, 05:23 PM
You obviously put a lot of thought and effort into this so I won't be too harsh, but Thomas is not a 3-4 end and from everything I heard Posluzny would be incapable of playing in the 3-4, especially on the outside.
Well Thomas played some defensive end this year and he had a pretty good season. I know he played mostly linebacker, but I think he could do OK - good at defensive end. Plus, this is only in one year and since there are no studs in free agency and I believe the top DE (Like Gaines Adams and Quentin Moses) will be gone by our pick, drafting a LB like Posluzny would be great. I really think he would flourish actually in a 3-4. He has great speed and would be a sack machine. Why wouldn't he be good in a 3-4?

Namath2Kolber
01-08-2007, 05:39 PM
Why is Barlow still on the team?

Rambo13
01-08-2007, 05:41 PM
Well Thomas played some defensive end this year and he had a pretty good season. I know he played mostly linebacker, but I think he could do OK - good at defensive end. Plus, this is only in one year and since there are no studs in free agency and I believe the top DE (Like Gaines Adams and Quentin Moses) will be gone by our pick, drafting a LB like Posluzny would be great. I really think he would flourish actually in a 3-4. He has great speed and would be a sack machine. Why wouldn't he be good in a 3-4?

Everything I have heard about Posluzny is he has very average speed and athleticism and his smarts and instincts are what makes him great.

I also think you are underrating our OLBs and the available DEs in the draft. Thomas and Hobson have been serviceable at OLB and I agree that there won't be a ton of elite OLBs at our position but people like Lamarr Woodley and Anthony Spencer could be there and coulb play 3-4 OLB very successfully. Also there should be an unusual amount of 3-4 DE prospects available in the late first to early third range. People like Adam Carriker, Jay Moore, Ray McDonald, Jamaal Anderson, Tim Crowder, Baraka Atkins all have the size to play the run and hold their ground and would be a much better value in my opinion than an OLB or NT pick at the same spot.

-MC-
01-08-2007, 05:50 PM
i like everything besides thomas at end and clement still here.

Pennythetowelboy
01-08-2007, 05:54 PM
that would be one hell of a great draft, but no way Lenoard will be there in mid 3rd round. He's a second rounder

Tight
01-08-2007, 06:20 PM
NO poluzny please. I understand hes from lineback U. But c'mon

Tennessee Jet
01-08-2007, 06:59 PM
My only concern about Steve Smith is his height. I know that Laverneous is not the tallest but when was the last time we had a tall receiver of any consequence. Has to be Keyshawn.

-MC-
01-08-2007, 07:12 PM
My Jets Mock:

1- Levi Brown- line of the ages, period.
2- Lamarr Woodley- pass rushing beast, drops due to low 40 time.
2- Eric Weddle- could replace coleman, and play a little corner. also return punts.
3- Chris Henry- put up terrible stats in college, but mangini could coach this huge kid to compliment leon very well.

Mavericknyc1980
01-08-2007, 07:19 PM
My Jets Mock:

1- Levi Brown- line of the ages, period.
2- Lamarr Woodley- pass rushing beast, drops due to low 40 time.
2- Eric Weddle- could replace coleman, and play a little corner. also return punts.
3- Chris Henry- put up terrible stats in college, but mangini could coach this huge kid to compliment leon very well.

If we do this then our future will be amazing. Im not that High on Weddle rather have Leonard there, or another corner.

-MC-
01-08-2007, 07:23 PM
If we do this then our future will be amazing. Im not that High on Weddle rather have Leonard there, or another corner.

i would rather have leonard also, but weddle there is great value. and henry is similar to leonard in ways, just faster.

ANJI
01-08-2007, 07:37 PM
Why is Barlow still on the team?
Why is Barret on the team if we sign Ricky manning?
Why is McCareins on the team if we draft a wideout in the second round?

jasonjets
01-08-2007, 09:10 PM
Why is Barret on the team if we sign Ricky manning?
Why is McCareins on the team if we draft a wideout in the second round?
... Depth.

sanchizeqb
01-08-2007, 09:20 PM
I want a tall, strong, speedy WR for a change. When I say tall, I mean throw it up there, jump and go get it tall.

When was the last time we had a quality one? I'd love to get Meacham from Tennessee.

MSUJet85
01-08-2007, 10:54 PM
My Jets Mock:

1- Levi Brown- line of the ages, period.
2- Lamarr Woodley- pass rushing beast, drops due to low 40 time.
2- Eric Weddle- could replace coleman, and play a little corner. also return punts.
3- Chris Henry- put up terrible stats in college, but mangini could coach this huge kid to compliment leon very well.

There is no way Woodley will last past the 1st round, it is even likely he won't even last to our 1st round pick

Rambo13
01-08-2007, 11:39 PM
I want a tall, strong, speedy WR for a change. When I say tall, I mean throw it up there, jump and go get it tall.

When was the last time we had a quality one? I'd love to get Meacham from Tennessee.

You willing to sacrifice a second for him? I agree with you, but if it isn't CJ or DJ, I'd rather wait it out and go for strictly a jump ball specialist on day 2 like Matt Trannon or Dallas Baker.

-MC-
01-08-2007, 11:41 PM
There is no way Woodley will last past the 1st round, it is even likely he won't even last to our 1st round pick

if woodley runs around a 4.72 forty (which is most likely) he could very well last to our pick. second round may be pushing it, if a 3-4 team falls in love with him then he wont last.

the kid is a player though and i really want to draft him.

DonnieIsTheKing
01-08-2007, 11:44 PM
Why are we re-signing Bryan Thomas when he's already locked away with a 5 year, $25 million extension?

It would be an awesome offseason, but when you find the cap room for it I'll be truly amazed. Those moves would probably leave us at least $15-20 over, and some of the contracts are really unrealistic (why would a starter worthy player like Manning take a contract barely over $1.5 million? He's going to cost at least $4 million per. Cotch also will want and deserves a bigger chunk of change then $2 million).

Big Cotch
01-08-2007, 11:45 PM
Everything I have heard about Posluzny is he has very average speed and athleticism and his smarts and instincts are what makes him great.

I also think you are underrating our OLBs and the available DEs in the draft. Thomas and Hobson have been serviceable at OLB and I agree that there won't be a ton of elite OLBs at our position but people like Lamarr Woodley and Anthony Spencer could be there and coulb play 3-4 OLB very successfully. Also there should be an unusual amount of 3-4 DE prospects available in the late first to early third range. People like Adam Carriker, Jay Moore, Ray McDonald, Jamaal Anderson, Tim Crowder, Baraka Atkins all have the size to play the run and hold their ground and would be a much better value in my opinion than an OLB or NT pick at the same spot.
Good call-- I'm a PSu fan- and Poz is just too small- after last season he was in the 220's- he may be up to high 230's by draft time, but he is just too small. It would be like another Vilma-- Great player, wrong scheme. How nice would Woodley, and a DE be with our first 2 pics??? I like Atkins, and Jamall Anderson from Arkansas- but I can guarantee we get Karriker-- just because I hate him. I can't stand white guys- they get hurt more than anyone, and are SLOW.

Big Cotch
01-08-2007, 11:46 PM
You willing to sacrifice a second for him? I agree with you, but if it isn't CJ or DJ, I'd rather wait it out and go for strictly a jump ball specialist on day 2 like Matt Trannon or Dallas Baker.
Nice call with those 2- I love Trannon, and Baker is killing OSU right now.

Big Cotch
01-08-2007, 11:51 PM
i would rather have leonard also, but weddle there is great value. and henry is similar to leonard in ways, just faster.
NO LEONARD!!!!!!!! It's not 3 years ago when we passed to the FB 10 times a game-- we need a true blocking FB- not an average Big East Blocker. He's too much a hybrid-- we need a 250+ FB-- Leonard is another Askew-- just too slow to play RB, and kind of big, so he goes to FB. What happens when he tries to open up holes against Richard Seymore-- he will get swallowed up.

DonnieIsTheKing
01-08-2007, 11:52 PM
if woodley runs around a 4.72 forty (which is most likely) he could very well last to our pick. second round may be pushing it, if a 3-4 team falls in love with him then he wont last.

the kid is a player though and i really want to draft him.
I agree. There is not a 3-4 OLB force in this draft like there has been in past years (Ware, Merriman, Wimbley, Lawson). Woodley is a great college player, but is a somewhat risky pick because his lack of speed may handicap him while facing much more athletic offensive lineman and running backs. I would not be surprised if he's around for us at 26.

I'm a huge Penn State fan, and Pos is in the same mold. Beastly college player, but may not be physically fast or strong enough to shed athletic 280 pound guards as effectively as he could in college. He's still the top 4-3 OLB in the draft and will be a first rounder, but is not the best defensive player as his award shelf might state. Pos is the best Penn State linebacker ever, but that doesn't mean he'll be the best pro linebacker from Penn State. Guys like Lavaar are a much better fit for the NFL, and a guy that is going to be a first rounder from Penn State next year (Dan Connor) will likely be a better pro prospect then Pos too.

DonnieIsTheKing
01-08-2007, 11:53 PM
NO LEONARD!!!!!!!! It's not 3 years ago when we passed to the FB 10 times a game-- we need a true blocking FB- not an average Big East Blocker. He's too much a hybrid-- we need a 250+ FB-- Leonard is another Askew-- just too slow to play RB, and kind of big, so he goes to FB. What happens when he tries to open up holes against Richard Seymore-- he will get swallowed up.
I don't mind the idea of Leonard. Schott is very creative and does a lot of shifts and motions with his players, and a versitile guy like Leonard would fit in perfectly.

DonnieIsTheKing
01-08-2007, 11:56 PM
Good call-- I'm a PSu fan- and Poz is just too small- after last season he was in the 220's- he may be up to high 230's by draft time, but he is just too small. It would be like another Vilma-- Great player, wrong scheme. How nice would Woodley, and a DE be with our first 2 pics??? I like Atkins, and Jamall Anderson from Arkansas- but I can guarantee we get Karriker-- just because I hate him. I can't stand white guys- they get hurt more than anyone, and are SLOW.
Let's not bring race into anything, please? Carriker is just as good if not better then the other guys you mentioned, and is the prototypical 3-4 DE, regardless of race.

And since when does color have to do with the rate at which you get hurt?

-MC-
01-08-2007, 11:58 PM
Let's not bring race into anything, please? Carriker is just as good if not better then the other guys you mentioned, and is the prototypical 3-4 DE, regardless of race.

And since when does color have to do with the rate at which you get hurt?

he doesnt like poz, carriker, or leonard...:ohmy:

Big Cotch
01-09-2007, 12:03 AM
he doesnt like poz, carriker, or leonard...:ohmy:
I love Poz-- I'm a PSU grad, he's just not right for us- too small. I know Karriker is a good fit, I just don't like him. Here is why I don't want Leonard--

Is a fullback/running back 'tweener. Lacks the explosiveness and speed to play running back in the NFL, and is inconsistent as a lead blocker. Lacks the speed to get the corner on outside runs, and is not a big-play threat. As a pass blocker, must bend knees to maintain solid base and hold his ground.

Bottom line: Leonard is the type of back who usually ends up being overgraded as a ballcarrier...he is the type who gets ripped by scouts who see his inconsistent lead blocking as something that never will improve. Leonard never will be a dominant lead blocker but should be good enough to be a starting fullback, but he could be a real weapon as a ballcarrier and receiver.

Big Cotch
01-09-2007, 12:05 AM
Let's not bring race into anything, please? Carriker is just as good if not better then the other guys you mentioned, and is the prototypical 3-4 DE, regardless of race.

And since when does color have to do with the rate at which you get hurt?
I'm pretty sure if you checked it out, White guys get hurt far more often that black guys. I think it's obvious that black players are FAR better - no way to deny that. I am white just incase you are curious.

-MC-
01-09-2007, 12:08 AM
I love Poz-- I'm a PSU grad, he's just not right for us- too small. I know Karriker is a good fit, I just don't like him. Here is why I don't want Leonard--

Is a fullback/running back 'tweener. Lacks the explosiveness and speed to play running back in the NFL, and is inconsistent as a lead blocker. Lacks the speed to get the corner on outside runs, and is not a big-play threat. As a pass blocker, must bend knees to maintain solid base and hold his ground.

Bottom line: Leonard is the type of back who usually ends up being overgraded as a ballcarrier...he is the type who gets ripped by scouts who see his inconsistent lead blocking as something that never will improve. Leonard never will be a dominant lead blocker but should be good enough to be a starting fullback, but he could be a real weapon as a ballcarrier and receiver.

the jets and steelers have been reported to really like leonard. dont be surprised if we get him. trust me, if schott found ways to make chad shine, he will easily find a way for leonard.

Big Cotch
01-09-2007, 12:14 AM
the jets and steelers have been reported to really like leonard. dont be surprised if we get him. trust me, if schott found ways to make chad shine, he will easily find a way for leonard.
I don't doubt he will be used and used well, but I hate the idea of a tweener FB-- especially with our crappy run blocking. Look at Lorenzo Neal- I think he blocked for 1000 yard rushers for like 15 years in a row-- a good blocking FB can make a much bigger impact that an offensive FB who gets maybe 5 touches a game if he's lucky.

Rambo13
01-09-2007, 12:39 AM
he doesnt like poz, carriker, or leonard...:ohmy:

I bet he doesn't like George Bush either.

24McNeil
01-09-2007, 12:42 AM
I'm pretty sure if you checked it out, White guys get hurt far more often that black guys. I think it's obvious that black players are FAR better - no way to deny that. I am white just incase you are curious.

So you are white and can make racial coments? Why should we look up your racial stats? If your so sure about the white mans injuries vs. the black mans, please show proof. Until then can you keep your "white man slow" talk to yourself, it's insulting to all.

Vilmathegreat51
01-09-2007, 02:10 AM
I'm pretty sure if you checked it out, White guys get hurt far more often that black guys. I think it's obvious that black players are FAR better - no way to deny that. I am white just incase you are curious.
That's bull shit.There's no need for stupid ass racial comments like that.There is NO way to tell how tough a player is by his skin color.Get back to the draft talk. :offtopic:

BakerMaker
01-09-2007, 02:56 AM
Hate to burst your bubble but Ricky Manning Jr is FAR from a Mangini type of guy. It seems this guy gets arrested every year. He was convicted of murder in 06 if memory serves me right.

Rambo13
01-09-2007, 12:01 PM
Hate to burst your bubble but Ricky Manning Jr is FAR from a Mangini type of guy. It seems this guy gets arrested every year. He was convicted of murder in 06 if memory serves me right.

If he was convicted of murder he would be in jail right now.

BakerMaker
01-10-2007, 03:03 AM
If he was convicted of murder he would be in jail right now.
Athletes get away with stuff like this...

Look at Sean Taylor and Ray Lewis as examples.

BCWhite
01-10-2007, 08:40 AM
What about Jon Abbate from Wake, that guy is all over the field. He always seems to have a nose for the play or at least the speed. I like him in the later rounds.

zoobooz
01-10-2007, 08:52 AM
I also think with the weak free agency and an overabundance of spending money league wide that Steinbach goes for well more than $12m/4 years.

Rambo13
01-10-2007, 12:27 PM
Athletes get away with stuff like this...

Look at Sean Taylor and Ray Lewis as examples.

Neither of whom were convicted of murder.

PRPitbull
01-10-2007, 03:34 PM
Poz isnt a pass rushing LB, hes more of a MLB, and we dont need that