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ButtleMan

03-08-2006, 03:59 PM

Just shut the hell up already Duante.

The quarterback, due a $6 million roster bonus on March 17, released a statement to ESPN on Wednesday that read:

"Now that I have confirmed that the Vikings have been seeking to trade me, I have asked for permission to speak to the interested teams. The Vikings have denied my request. If a trade does not happen then I am asking the Vikings to terminate my contract as soon as possible. I appreciate that the owner, Mr. Wilf, is willing to pay my March bonus. However, because of the fundamental differences I have with management regarding the approach to my personal and professional life, I think it is the best business decision for both parties to go our separate ways. If the team chooses not to honor my request, then I intend to fulfill my contractual obligations to the Minnesota Vikings."

In a statement to the media in February, Culpepper said that he had offered to move his roster bonus to another date to help the Vikings sign more free agents under the salary cap -- though the team is projected to have plenty of room.

"If I am not traded, I want to help coach Childress make a serious run for the championship this year," Culpepper said.

However, both the Star Tribune and Pioneer Press reported that Vikings owner Zygi Wilf told reporters at the NFL scouting combine that the team planned to pay Culpepper the bonus.

When he was asked if Culpepper figures in the team's 2006 plans, Wilf said "That is our plan, yes. Always was."

Downplaying the trade speculation, coach Brad Childress asserted that he plans to have both Culpepper and Brad Johnson on the team this year at quarterback.

"That's the mindset," Childress said at the combine. "I don't know anything to the contrary."

The injured quarterback, who tore three ligaments in his right knee in an Oct. 30 game and has been rehabilitating in his native Florida, said last month that he told Wilf he wasn't happy with what he's been reading in the news -- and what he hasn't been hearing from the club.

"I shared my disappointment with the lack of communication and the false reports about me demanding more money coming out of Minnesota," said Culpepper, who let go of his agent in January and has been representing himself.

Childress acknowledged that the team has had inquiries about Culpepper.

"That's what goes on this time of year," he said.

But the coach diverted his comments toward Culpepper's knee. He's projected to return for training camp, but that's not a guarantee.

"He's three months out of a major surgery," Childress said. "Before we do anything, we're going to get him back to health.

"All my talk with the trainers is about getting him back to the level of play he was at in 2004," he said.

That's when Culpepper was chosen for his third Pro Bowl after setting several franchise records and establishing an NFL mark for most combined rushing and passing yardage. But playing without receiver Randy Moss, center Matt Birk and offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Scott Linehan, Culpepper started last season poorly and then suffered the devastating injury.

"All of the discussion about me being traded or cut has helped me realize that the contract I have ran out of guarantees the day I was injured," he said. "Therefore each year they pay you to play is a gift. I expect that if there are no changes to my present contract, then I should prepare for a year-by-year commitment. When I am ready to hit the field this year, wherever it may be, I plan on being better than ever and enjoying the ride

JHTJ

03-08-2006, 04:14 PM

I don't blame the guy one bit. I wouldn't want to play for a team that spent the entire offseason trying to trade me.

lightning

03-08-2006, 04:51 PM

F*ck him, how much money is he making?

nyjunc

03-08-2006, 06:21 PM

The most overpaid and overrated QB in the game strikes again. If he wants out so bad then give back the signing bonus money so they can cut you w/o a cap hit.

PutJerrichoIn

03-09-2006, 02:34 AM

looks like the vikes got rid of the wrong turd

ButtleMan

03-09-2006, 09:41 AM

I don't blame the guy one bit. I wouldn't want to play for a team that spent the entire offseason trying to trade me.

They didnt start looking for a trade until Duante came in with his outrageous extension request while missing over half the season.

Duante started the whole chaing of events to get out of his contract.

NYJATW

03-09-2006, 09:44 AM

ButtleMan

03-09-2006, 10:04 AM

maybe he realizes he isn't that great without a #1 WR

Then Duante shouldnt have sent him away.

mem_reddog

03-09-2006, 11:47 AM

ButtleMan

03-09-2006, 12:00 PM

I don't understand why you guys jump all over athletes when they attempt to maximize their money making potential. The NFL is a business and teams try to sign the athletes for as little as possible and the athlete will try to get as much money as possible. In between there will be a lot of grandstanding but in the end none of it should be taken personally by either side as they are both looking out for their best interest. I think Daunte should let an agent handle this, and not get to personally involved because I believe their is a greater chance of him taking some of thier business moves personally which he should not.

Duante has the right to make as much as he possibly can but he signed a very lucrative contract a few years and was happy about it.
He played the owner to get the other player that was paid more than him traded out of town.
He played very poorly in the beginning of the season and then got a season ending injury.
You would think that his thoughts would be in re-habbing and getting ready for the next year to make up for this dismal season but no he goes to the owner, demands more money and a new contract.
When he doesnt get that, he complains through the media. Then gets upset when the team tries to get value for him.
Sorry man, he sounds like a whiny little bitch here.

JHTJ

03-09-2006, 01:06 PM

They didnt start looking for a trade until Duante came in with his outrageous extension request while missing over half the season.

Duante started the whole chaing of events to get out of his contract.What does his requesting more money have to do with what I said? Minnesota could have just said "No, Deal with it." Instead, they said "No, Deal with it - and by the way we're going to try to trade you."

I'm not a huge Culpepper Supporter or anything, but I'm still not so sure what he did that was so wrong.

lightning

03-09-2006, 01:42 PM

mem_reddog

03-09-2006, 01:47 PM

Duante has the right to make as much as he possibly can but he signed a very lucrative contract a few years and was happy about it.
He played the owner to get the other player that was paid more than him traded out of town.
He played very poorly in the beginning of the season and then got a season ending injury.
You would think that his thoughts would be in re-habbing and getting ready for the next year to make up for this dismal season but no he goes to the owner, demands more money and a new contract.
When he doesnt get that, he complains through the media. Then gets upset when the team tries to get value for him.
Sorry man, he sounds like a whiny little bitch here.

I think it is a mistake for a player to try to negotiate his own contract because there is no way that he can stay objective. The FO is going to bring up every injury and off the field incident to try to drive the price down and I don't see how any player could not take this personally so he should definitely let an agent handle this. But with that being said, I will never have a problem with NFL players asking for more money or new contracts, because of the rules. The teams can terminate a contract at any time, yet the players are expected to live up to theirs. But what it all comes down to is the NFL is a business and everyone involved wants to make as much money as possible. Daunte is being whiny but that's why you shouldn't take the business so personal and let an agent handle negotiations.

nyjunc

03-09-2006, 01:50 PM

What does his requesting more money have to do with what I said? Minnesota could have just said "No, Deal with it." Instead, they said "No, Deal with it - and by the way we're going to try to trade you."

I'm not a huge Culpepper Supporter or anything, but I'm still not so sure what he did that was so wrong.

They gave him a huge deal last year, he was horrible and then his season got cut short this year and wants more $ again???? That's his way of saying he wants out and Minny was shopping him anyway b/c they realize the huge mistake they made getting rid of Randy and keeping Daunte.

Attyla

03-09-2006, 02:50 PM

Daunte becomes a Raider, and will have a career year. Mark my words

VickBlows

03-09-2006, 03:00 PM

Daunte�s the man � I would do whatever it took to get out of bum fuck Minnesota.

VickBlows

03-09-2006, 03:02 PM

1. he sucked
2. the team sucked because of it
3. he's a dick
Watch the �beyond the glory� on him � it would probably change your opinion. Besides; I don�t see how the fan of a franchise with Chad Penningirl as their quarterback could point the finger at any other quarterback and indicate that they suck, are overrated or overpaid.

Gimmie a break

nyjunc

03-09-2006, 03:07 PM

Daunte becomes a Raider, and will have a career year. Mark my words

yep then in week 17 w/ a chance to get Oak into the playoffs he'll throw 3 INTs and lead Oak to 10 points in a 23-10 loss to the Texans.

JHTJ

03-09-2006, 03:12 PM

yep then in week 17 w/ a chance to get Oak into the playoffs he'll throw 3 INTs and lead Oak to 10 points in a 23-10 loss to the Texans.So, Daunte slept with your sister?

Attyla

03-09-2006, 03:31 PM

yep then in week 17 w/ a chance to get Oak into the playoffs he'll throw 3 INTs and lead Oak to 10 points in a 23-10 loss to the Texans.

Possible, but also possible that he runs for 3TDs and throws another 2 to Moss in week 16 against the Jets that gives us best standings in the league and a first round bye in the playoffs while the Jets get to hear those famous words: With the first pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, the New York Jets are on the clock.

Sorry, couldnt resist. :beer:

Seriously, along with Miami and Baltimore, the Raiders are being mentioned as a next stop for Daunte, and I for one would welcome the change over Kerry Duck and be Sacked Collins for next year.

nyjunc

03-09-2006, 03:39 PM

Possible, but also possible that he runs for 3TDs and throws another 2 to Moss in week 16 against the Jets that gives us best standings in the league and a first round bye in the playoffs while the Jets get to hear those famous words: With the first pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, the New York Jets are on the clock.

We lost half our team and were playing w/ a 4th string QB and we both finished w/ the same records and we BEAT you. The odds are we will be better quicker than you guys will. Even if you get duante he improves the record by a few games but he will also choke when the games get big so what are you really gaining?

Attyla

03-09-2006, 03:44 PM

We lost half our team and were playing w/ a 4th string QB and we both finished w/ the same records and we BEAT you. The odds are we will be better quicker than you guys will. Even if you get duante he improves the record by a few games but he will also choke when the games get big so what are you really gaining?

Daunte or Collins....hmmm

nyjunc

03-09-2006, 03:45 PM

Daunte or Collins....hmmm

it's achoice of paying alot mroe money for a QB that won't take you anywhere or alot less money for a QB that won't take you anywhere. I'd stick w/ Collins and spend my money to improve the team around him.

Attyla

03-09-2006, 03:51 PM

it's achoice of paying alot mroe money for a QB that won't take you anywhere or alot less money for a QB that won't take you anywhere. I'd stick w/ Collins and spend my money to improve the team around him.

Well, first, Collins is a 12 mil cap hit, so that does not work. Second, once Daunte hits the FA market after Minn releases him, he can be signed to a very friendly cap deal according to the new rules where the signing bonus can be spread over 6 years.

Second, given the past histories of the two teams, it is a stretch for a Jets fan to believe that his team will improve faster than the Raiders. History is just not on your side on that deal.

But all of that aside, I still think Daunte will improve some team this next season if given a chance, and I think it will be significant improvement. Again the track record shows that Daunte has the tools to do the job, and do it well.

nyjunc

03-09-2006, 04:04 PM

Well, first, Collins is a 12 mil cap hit, so that does not work.

How the heck can Collins be a $12 mil cap hit?

Second, given the past histories of the two teams, it is a stretch for a Jets fan to believe that his team will improve faster than the Raiders. History is just not on your side on that deal.

You guys have been brutal since 2002, we have been down and back up again in that span. You can talk about 30 years ago all you want but the facts are the Raiders haven't been a great franchise and haven't sustained success since the early 80s. I know we haven't been good most of our existence but we have been one of the better AFC teams since '97.

But all of that aside, I still think Daunte will improve some team this next season if given a chance, and I think it will be significant improvement. Again the track record shows that Daunte has the tools to do the job, and do it well.

Sure he'll improve a team, they'll win a few more but down the stretch he'll fade and cost his team a playoff spot. He's a great fantasy QB but fantasy #s don't win Championships.

3rdAnd15Draw

03-09-2006, 04:39 PM

lightning

03-09-2006, 05:01 PM

Watch the “beyond the glory” on him – it would probably change your opinion. Besides; I don’t see how the fan of a franchise with Chad Penningirl as their quarterback could point the finger at any other quarterback and indicate that they suck, are overrated or overpaid.

Gimmie a break
1. im not a chad penningirl fan
2. i never said he was overrated
3. he's a dick

nyjunc

03-09-2006, 06:59 PM

Yep, it's always Daunte's fault. Even when he leaves the field with a double digit lead with 3 minutes left and never sees the ball again, it's Daunte's choking that lost the game.

Nah, he was great leading them to 16 pts against that vaunted Arizona D when the Arizona D had given up 33 a game for 7-8 weeks. Great job daunte!

Cakes

03-09-2006, 07:52 PM

Culpepper has Miami Dolphins written all over him. He's good for 10, 11 wins and playing poorly in big games.
If he goes to Oakland, that would be good, too.

3rdAnd15Draw

03-09-2006, 07:54 PM

Nah, he was great leading them to 16 pts against that vaunted Arizona D when the Arizona D had given up 33 a game for 7-8 weeks. Great job daunte!

You're right junc, it's absolutely Daunte's fault that the Vikings defense gave up almost as many points in 3 minutes as the Cardinals offense was averaging a game all year long(12 vs 14.75). You can't blame everything on the QB, and this certainly wasn't a "choke" by Daunte. He played well enough to win and had his team up by 11 points with 3 minutes left. The defense collapsed like it always does and the Vikings lost.

nyjunc

03-09-2006, 07:54 PM

Culpepper has Miami Dolphins written all over him. He's good for 10, 11 wins and playing poorly in big games.
If he goes to Oakland, that would be good, too.

I HOPE he goes to Miami, please let them spend draft picks and alot of cap room to get this guy.

nyjunc

03-09-2006, 07:55 PM

You're right junc, it's absolutely Daunte's fault that the Vikings defense gave up almost as many points in 3 minutes as the Cardinals offense was averaging a game all year long(12 vs 14.75). You can't blame everything on the QB, and this certainly wasn't a "choke" by Daunte. He played well enough to win and had his team up by 11 points with 3 minutes left. The defense collapsed like it always does and the Vikings lost.

16 pts against a team giving up 33 a game, that's all we need to know. That's classic daunte in big games.

3rdAnd15Draw

03-09-2006, 08:03 PM

16 pts against a team giving up 33 a game, that's all we need to know. That's classic daunte in big games.

They gave up 28.25 on the year. Also their defense was very streaky and much much better at home, they had a few high 30s, 40+ type games which inflated their overall numbers. In week 3 they held the Packers to 13 points at home, and the Packers were 4th in the league in scoring that year. Their average on the year at home was only 21.375 a game so once again you try to blow facts out of proportion and distort them to fit your reality.

Mexican Buc

03-09-2006, 08:37 PM

The most overpaid and overrated QB in the game strikes again. If he wants out so bad then give back the signing bonus money so they can cut you w/o a cap hit.
What did Vick say now?

kelly

03-09-2006, 08:53 PM

Total access on Sirius radio just reported that a team, not named yet, has made an offer to the vikes who will most likely pull the trigger by tomarrow morning.
Team involved was not disclosed.

my guess is that it is the raiders . hi, randy moss . . . :beer:

hydro51

03-09-2006, 08:54 PM

Ryan

03-09-2006, 08:55 PM

Why would they bother telling us if they dont know who traded?

ukilledkenny

03-09-2006, 08:55 PM

deffinitly the raiders overpaying for players because they are impatient is what the raiders do best.

kelly

03-09-2006, 08:55 PM

Upset by Daunte Culpepper's public attempts to force a divorce, Minnesota Vikings officials have determined to trade the unhappy quarterback and have ratcheted up their dialogue with possible suitors.League sources said that the Vikings, shortly after a Wednesday e-mail that Culpepper sent to several media outlets in which he acknowledged that he has requested to be traded or release, began calling clubs they feel might be interested in acquiring the seven-year veteran.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports the Vikings are determined to trade Culpepper before the league's free agency period begins at 12:01 ET Saturday.

One team believed to have discussed the possibility of dealing for Culpepper is Oakland. The Raiders last week released starting quarterback Kerry Collins, then rescinded the move when the league delayed the start to the free agent signing period. Collins' status with the team remains in limbo, in large part because of a prohibitive salary cap figure for 2006 that the Raiders would prefer to reduce.

In his Wednesday e-mail, the fourth he has sent to Twin Cities and national reporters since last month, Culpepper wrote: "Now that I have confirmed that the Vikings have been seeking to trade me, I have asked for permission to speak to the interested teams. The Vikings have denied my request. If a trade does not happen, then I am asking the Vikings to terminate my contract as soon as possible."

Minnesota was scheduled to pay Culpepper a $6 million roster bonus on March 17 as part of a contract enhancement new owner Zygi Wilf added to the quarterback's existing deal last summer. That date for the execution of the bonus is expected to be pushed back because of the delay in beginning the league year. Culpepper is due a base salary of $2 million for 2006.But the contract, which runs through the 2013 season, is just one of the several elements complicating any potential Culpepper trade.

Culpepper, 29, continues to rehabilitate his right knee and, while he is said to have made substantial progress in his recovery, the injury was a severe one. Culpepper tore three ligaments in the knee in an Oct. 30 game at Carolina and has been rehabilitating in the Orlando, Fla., area. First-year head coach Brad Childress would prefer that Culpepper continue his rehabilitation at the team's facility.In addition, Culpepper still faces misdemeanor charges related to the so-called "Love Boat" scandal of last September, an incident allegedly involving some Vikings teammates. And, finally, Culpepper split during this offseason with longtime agent Mason Ashe, and has been representing himself. Any team interested in trading for Culpepper almost certainly would want to rework his contract. Culpepper's base salaries for the seasons after this one rise dramatically, to $5.5 million in 2007 and $6 million each for 2008-2009.

If the Vikings are successful in dealing Culpepper, they could go with Brad Johnson, who took over for the second half of last season, as the starter. Or Childress, the former Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator who has been charged with rebuilding the team's image on and off the field, could seek to sign a veteran as a free agent. Because the Vikings are nearly $30 million under the NFL's new salary cap of $102 million for 2006, there is no urgency to resolve Culpepper's status, and it is doubtful the club will release him.

A first-round pick in the 1999 draft, Culpepper has appeared in 81 games and started all but one of them. He has completed 1,678 of 2,607 passes for 20,162 yards, with 135 touchdown passes and 86 interceptions.

The former Central Florida star has also rushed 454 times for 2,476 yards. He has been chosen to the Pro Bowl on three occasions.

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Pam

03-09-2006, 08:58 PM

Ditching Daunte
Vikings ready to trade Culpepper by end of weekend
Posted: Thursday March 9, 2006 7:27PM; Updated: Thursday March 9, 2006 7:27PM
By Don Banks, SI.com

Daunte Culpepper's career as a Minnesota Viking is officially at the point of no return.

Fed up with their disruptive and disgruntled starting quarterback, the Vikings have decided to trade Culpepper in the coming two days, a league source confirmed to SI.com.

While the Vikings know they will not receive a windfall for Culpepper, who put up MVP-level numbers and went to the Pro Bowl as recently as 2004, they are at the point where they are willing to take anything decent in return for a player who this week asked Minnesota to either trade him or release him.

Miami and Baltimore have been mentioned as possible suitors of Culpepper this offseason, but league sources say Oakland might be in the drivers seat in the pursuit of Culpepper. The Raiders traded with Minnesota last February for receiver Randy Moss, with whom Culpepper had his greatest success in the NFL. Oakland cut quarterback Kerry Collins last week in a salary cap move, but was able to rescind that transaction when the ongoing CBA negotiations prompted several delays in the start of free agency and left the 2006 salary cap figure undetermined.

The Vikings have tried to be patient with Culpepper this offseason, and new head coach Brad Childress has made repeated efforts to build a relationship with the team's franchise quarterback. But to no avail, the league source said.

"The relationship with [Childress] doesn't work,'' the source said. "They just don't hit it off.''

The Vikings face a less than teeming trade market for Culpepper in part because of his strange behavior and curious decision to have little or no contact with the organization this offseason, as well as him being in the midst of rehabilitation from a major knee injury, which ended his season last Oct. 30 in a loss at Carolina.

Culpepper, 29, fired his longtime agent, Mason Ashe, earlier this offseason, and then several times asked the Vikings for a lucrative contract extension. The Vikings declined to consider a new deal until he returned healthy in 2006, but did intend to pay him a $6 million roster bonus that is due March 17.

But those plans changed this week, when Culpepper responded angrily to an email he was sent by the team, going public with his demand for a trade or the termination of his contract. Vikings sources at the NFL Scouting Combine two weeks ago said the team had no intention of giving Culpepper away without receiving significant value in return. But his most recent pique of temper lowered the bar on what Minnesota would accepted in trade.

League sources say the Vikings don't believe that Culpepper was orchestrating his own exit out of Minnesota, and instead cite his immaturity level and wounded pride as the impetus behind his at times bizarre behavior.

Where do the cap-rich Vikings go from here on the quarterback front, once Culpepper is dealt? For now, Childress is very comfortable turning over the starting reins to veteran Brad Johnson, who played superbly in Culpepper's absence last season, winning his first six starts and going 7-2 overall.

Minnesota also has some interest in exploring the market for San Diego starter Drew Brees, who is set to become the most sought after quarterback in free agency. Brees, however, has a rehabilitation of his own to contend with, having torn up his throwing shoulder in the Chargers' final game of the 2005 season. That makes the Vikings somewhat wary of pursuing Brees, who is thought to be Miami's top priority in free agency.

The Vikings are probably more likely to pursue former Cardinals starter Josh McCown in free agency, or consider using a second or third-round pick on a quarterback, grooming him to take over for Johnson in a year or two. If McCown would join Minnesota, the Vikings could still use a second-day draft choice on a young quarterback prospect.

hydro51

03-09-2006, 08:58 PM

Vikings not passing up Culpepper trade

By Adam Schefter
NFL Analyst

(March 9, 2006) -- The Minnesota Vikings have a deal in place to trade quarterback Daunte Culpepper, team officials confirmed Thursday. The trade is imminent, with the deal expected to go through Friday, just before the start of free agency.

Where Culpepper is going is the biggest mystery in the league. As of now, it is not Oakland. The Raiders and Vikings spoke Thursday, but Oakland is trying to gauge whether or not it wants to try to match, or beat, the other teams' offer. It will spend Thursday night mulling its decision.

Daunte Culpepper couldn't get along with the new regime in Minnesota.
Daunte Culpepper couldn't get along with the new regime in Minnesota.
But the Vikings have made it clear that they have found a suitable trade partner, with suitable compensation, and now Culpepper and the Vikings each will get their wish. They will part ways, leaving on more bitter terms than wide receiver Randy Moss left Minnesota last season.

Culpepper could not get along with new Vikings coach Brad Childress, and the quarterback has upset various members of the organization with what they feel is his immature behavior. Their relationship, by all accounts, will end Friday. But the only ones who knows where Culpepper's next relationship will resume are the Vikings and their trading partner.

Teams in need of quarterbacks include Miami, New Orleans, Detroit, the New York Jets, the Baltimore Ravens and the Oakland Raiders, who still have not released Kerry Collins, even if it has been reported that they have.

Chances are, one of those places will be Culpepper's home this season.

Ten

03-09-2006, 08:58 PM

Bloody hell,Culpepper is 29?Jesus these past few years have flown by.

nyjunc

03-09-2006, 09:13 PM

I hope it's the dolphins.

JHTJ

03-09-2006, 10:00 PM

I hope it's the dolphins.For a 3rd rounder, me too.

hydro51

03-09-2006, 10:03 PM

rumor going around its the ravens for a 3rd this year and a conditionalin 07 depending i guess games played(or what cute incentive they make it)

PinPointPenning10

03-09-2006, 10:04 PM

Could it be us? :ohmy:

Pride

03-09-2006, 10:08 PM

I heard it was the dolphins

PennyandtheJets

03-09-2006, 10:09 PM

Could it be us? :ohmy:
If its for a 3rd rounder ANYONE should do that...

DROB63Cmart28

03-09-2006, 10:10 PM

I wouldnt mind if it was us. Culpeppers a great player who had a really down year this year and was injured. But i dont want to give up too many draft picks for him.

PennyandtheJets

03-09-2006, 10:11 PM

I wouldnt mind if it was us. Culpeppers a great player who had a really down year this year and was injured. But i dont want to give up too many draft picks for him.
I would be utterly shocked if Mangini traded for this guy with an injury and off field issues...

If we wanted a player like Daunte we could draft Vince...

hydro51

03-09-2006, 10:12 PM

I heard it was the dolphins
nvm ur right

PennyandtheJets

03-09-2006, 10:13 PM

nvm ur right
Huh? You heard it?

Jetdog

03-09-2006, 10:14 PM

I don't want Culpepper... he goes down and team does better? Randy made him look good.

Pride

03-09-2006, 10:15 PM

dont hold me 2 it, i 4get where but i heard that it was a done deal but it has to be finalize.

Electric Cedric 34

03-09-2006, 10:15 PM

POSTED 8:50 p.m. EST, March 9, 2006

VIKES HAVE OPTIONS FOR CULPEPPER

Despite reports that the Vikings have found a trade partner for quarterback Daunte Culpepper, we're told that the team has multiple options.

A deal, as reported elsewhere and as we've confirmed, will be struck within the next 24 hours, and the transaction will be consummated after 12:01 a.m. on Saturday, because trades can't be made until the next league year starts.

As to his health, we're told that he actually is on track to play in 2006, and that he'll be ready for training camp.

Said one league source: "G.M.�s should be standing in line to get this guy and the smart ones are."

Stay tuned. Our guess (and it's only a guess) is that it'll be the Rams, and we predict that current starter Marc Bulger will be part of the package that gets sent to the Vikings.

hydro51

03-09-2006, 10:15 PM

Huh? You heard it?

yep its a done deal to miami unless oakland makes a better offer by tomarow.

jets and ravens arent intrested at all.

PennyandtheJets

03-09-2006, 10:16 PM

yep its a done deal to miami unless oakland makes a better offer by tomarow.

jets and ravens arent intrested at all.
Where did you hear it?

The Dark Knight

03-09-2006, 10:16 PM

No need to make a thread on this. Just put it in another Culpepper thread. :up:

DROB63Cmart28

03-09-2006, 10:17 PM

I would be utterly shocked if Mangini traded for this guy with an injury and off field issues...

If we wanted a player like Daunte we could draft Vince...

Yea your right probably. But if we wanted a player like Culpepper and wanted to draft Vince at 4 he most likely wouldnt be there by then.

hydro51

03-09-2006, 10:18 PM

Where did you hear it?
According to the earlier ESPN report, Daunte to Miami unless Oakland beats the trade overn

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Attyla

03-10-2006, 09:56 AM

How the heck can Collins be a $12 mil cap hit?

You guys have been brutal since 2002, we have been down and back up again in that span. You can talk about 30 years ago all you want but the facts are the Raiders haven't been a great franchise and haven't sustained success since the early 80s. I know we haven't been good most of our existence but we have been one of the better AFC teams since '97.

Sure he'll improve a team, they'll win a few more but down the stretch he'll fade and cost his team a playoff spot. He's a great fantasy QB but fantasy #s don't win Championships.

OK, most of your rant is wrong. Recent history (lets say, 20 years) we not only have a winning record vs the Jets, we have been to the AFC Championship game three times. You have been to the playoffs 6 times, but have not been sucsessful. So, dont get too excited about your about your "sustained success". Your track record is no better than ours in that department. Regular season, granted, you have had some good years recently, but if I remember correctly, and I think I do, we had 4 consecutive years in the playoffs recently. And dont get me started about the head to head record.

As for the Collins contract. It was a back loaded contract with a 12 mil cap hit in year 3. We got the cap space we needed to sign some player, and it was understood that we would evaluate the player after year 2 and either renegotiate if he performed, or terminate the contract with only a 2mil hit at that point. Remember, Collins was signed when we still had Gannon and it looked like he was going to return to form. Then Gannon sustained that career ending injury. Collins stepped in, and now will become a free agent. I have no hard feelings about either his performance or the fact that he is leaving. Part of the game.

As for Daunte, the deal is not in place as of this moment, but Mortenson seems to think it will get done. I for one do not see this as a bad move. We get the guy who can be mobile (hopefully recovered) in the pocket, taking our O line issues out of the mix, and can throw down field with reasonable accuracy. He knows the Moss tendancies, so they will connect well. I am concerned about his hands and the fumbles, and of course the injury. However, I do see this as an upgrade, and given the QB's on the market, I think we may get the best overall available player at the position if we get Daunte. Brees being a close second, but Brees is not the kind of QB that Al covets. Ramsey would have been a not so close third. Brooks and Harrington (if he were available) rounding out the top 5.

Gonna be a fun FA season, now that the deal is done. I for one am looking forward to seeing what our two teams do, and of course, the head to head match up this season.

Murrell2878

03-10-2006, 10:25 AM

Vikings close to trading Culpepper per Espnews. Doesn't say to who. It's at the bottom of the screen

nyjunc

03-10-2006, 02:07 PM

OK, most of your rant is wrong. Recent history (lets say, 20 years) we not only have a winning record vs the Jets, we have been to the AFC Championship game three times. You have been to the playoffs 6 times, but have not been sucsessful. So, dont get too excited about your about your "sustained success". Your track record is no better than ours in that department. Regular season, granted, you have had some good years recently, but if I remember correctly, and I think I do, we had 4 consecutive years in the playoffs recently. And dont get me started about the head to head record.

I didn't say we were great just that you were acting as if the Raiders have been the Raiders of the 60s throgh mid 80s and that's not the case. You have not come close to a winning record since 2002 while we went down then up then down again. You made it seem like Oak will rebound quickly well it's already been 4 years.

As for Daunte, the deal is not in place as of this moment, but Mortenson seems to think it will get done. I for one do not see this as a bad move. We get the guy who can be mobile (hopefully recovered) in the pocket, taking our O line issues out of the mix, and can throw down field with reasonable accuracy.

I'm just not a duante fan, you guys have incredible weapons at WR so he'll put up great #s but he's nto a guy who I want leading my team in big moments and big games. His track record is very poor in those areas and that was playing w/ some of the best offensive talent the game has ever seen.

Gonna be a fun FA season, now that the deal is done. I for one am looking forward to seeing what our two teams do, and of course, the head to head match up this season.

We might as well be in the same division as we play just about every year.

mem_reddog

03-10-2006, 02:39 PM

UncleTomNYJ

03-10-2006, 02:42 PM

daunte goes tothe raiders for the 7th pick in draft

nyjunc

03-10-2006, 03:27 PM

I will take a take a younger stronger and more athletic Daunte than a washed up journeyman qb. You are so off on this one.

Sure if the money was equal I'd go w/ the younger guy but Daunte will want alot more $ therefore I'd take Kerry who despite not putting up great reg season #s has been to twice as many Championship games as Daunte and destroyed daunte head to head in one of them when Daunte clearly had the better team.

Jetzz

03-10-2006, 03:29 PM

I will take a take a younger stronger and more athletic Daunte than a washed up journeyman qb. You are so off on this one.

Take Dante. Enjoy him throwing, what is it, 5 plus picks a game? lol

I'll take the guy that can protect the football and not make a lot of mistakes. Can't say that about Dante last year. :breakdance: