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Dinobot 2
11-19-2006, 04:47 PM
What do we pay Nugent for anyway? Kicking the ball to the 10 yard line every time? We don't go for the 3. And then we don't go for it on 4th down?

Sorry but those decisons were HORRIBLE! I can't believe we gave this game away. What a horrible perfomance. Total half assed.
GangGreen04
11-19-2006, 04:55 PM
chad pennington is the nugent of nfl quarterbacks....
Dinobot 2
11-19-2006, 04:56 PM
chad pennington is the nugent of nfl quarterbacks....

Well it's hard to know when our recievers don't run down the field 20 or more yards. How many attempts did he have over 20 yards. Yeah.
Petrozza
11-19-2006, 04:57 PM
they don't trust Nugent... just like they don't trust Pennington

gotta get rid of both of those clowns after this season
jetsaholic1094
11-19-2006, 04:58 PM
Nugent is a waste of a pick (a frickin' SECOND rounder, at that). He doesn't do anything we couldn't expect from some bum kicker off of free agency.
statjeff22
11-19-2006, 05:03 PM
they don't trust Nugent... just like they don't trust Pennington



I think that pretty much covers it.
greenlantern1094
11-19-2006, 05:05 PM
yeah I agree. A 50 yard field goal is a long field goal, but virtually every other team in the league would at least attempt it from 50. If you don't trust a guy to kick it from there, then why keep him around? There has to be someone else on the wire that can kick a ball 50 yards.
RobA
11-19-2006, 05:07 PM
They don't trust him, I don't get it. How do you not trust a 2nd round kicker?
Dinobot 2
11-19-2006, 05:11 PM
they don't trust Nugent... just like they don't trust Pennington

gotta get rid of both of those clowns after this season

I disagree on that one.
Cman55
11-19-2006, 05:22 PM
I said the exact same thing Petro at the time. They don't trust Nugent over 40yds and they don't trust Pennington downfield just yet...

Is it me or did I imagine all those floatie passes by Pennington today?
abyzmul
11-19-2006, 05:23 PM
They don't trust him, I don't get it. How do you not trust a 2nd round kicker?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
SonofDinger
11-19-2006, 05:31 PM
They don't trust him, I don't get it. How do you not trust a 2nd round kicker?

He hasn't been a second round kicker since April of 2005. Now he's a mediocre kicker who should probably be replaced in the future
kinghenry89
11-19-2006, 05:35 PM
Well it's hard to know when our recievers don't run down the field 20 or more yards. How many attempts did he have over 20 yards. Yeah.
In the hurry up offense, Pennington has a lot of control over what plays the Jets run. If the Jets recievers aren't going downfield, it's because Pennington doesn't want them to.
Dinobot 2
11-19-2006, 05:39 PM
I said the exact same thing Petro at the time. They don't trust Nugent over 40yds and they don't trust Pennington downfield just yet...

Is it me or did I imagine all those floatie passes by Pennington today?

If that's been the case they should have brought in someone else. Sometimes you have to get over trust and just go for it.
Dinobot 2
11-19-2006, 05:39 PM
They don't trust him, I don't get it. How do you not trust a 2nd round kicker?

So is it my understanding you aren't familiar with the term "bust"?

Such a sweet kid.....
RobA
11-19-2006, 05:53 PM
So is it my understanding you aren't familiar with the term "bust"?

Such a sweet kid.....

That's not the point. Yes nuge has not lived up the expectations. But it ain't helping his confidence by not letting him attempt a 50 yd FG. You can't expect him to improve if never given the chance.
Dinobot 2
11-19-2006, 05:55 PM
That's not the point. Yes nuge has not lived up the expectations. But it ain't helping his confidence by not letting him attempt a 50 yd FG. You can't expect him to improve if never given the chance.

Confidence was the least thing on Mangini's mind. Of course I wish we did go with Nugent. I'd like to see us lose confidence on him after he chokes on a 50 yarder rather than before.
DonnieIsTheKing
11-19-2006, 11:11 PM
I couldn't agree more. A complete waste of a pick if they're not going to let him try a 50 yarder in a game with virtually no offense. Just another mistake of the Bradway era...
jetsaholic1094
11-19-2006, 11:17 PM
That's not the point. Yes nuge has not lived up the expectations. But it ain't helping his confidence by not letting him attempt a 50 yd FG. You can't expect him to improve if never given the chance.

I'm pretty sure Mangini wouldn't just lose confidence in Nugent without any basis for it. Who knows, maybe Nugent consistently missed several FGs from 50+ yards during practice or something.

All I'm saying is that he's a waste of a pick, because he's not being used in a way that any kicker signed off of FA couldn't do.
Dinobot 2
11-19-2006, 11:20 PM
There hasn't even been an attempt for a 50+ yarder by him yet. I'm pretty sure that's correct. But I know that he's never made one....
inSANITy
11-20-2006, 02:58 AM
why does nugent look like he is 12

i mean compare a picture of nugent to mangold who do u think is older?
Twombles
11-20-2006, 06:38 AM
I said the exact same thing Petro at the time. They don't trust Nugent over 40yds and they don't trust Pennington downfield just yet...

Is it me or did I imagine all those floatie passes by Pennington today?

Specially in the last quarter.

NFL standard kickers should be kicking FGs from 50, it is excusable to miss a handfull a season but damn...
nyjunc
11-20-2006, 08:57 AM
It was windy, the kick was too long. We should have gone for ti instead of punted but I agree not to kick the FG there.
Dinobot 2
11-20-2006, 11:28 AM
It was windy, the kick was too long. We should have gone for ti instead of punted but I agree not to kick the FG there.

Either way we should have not punted. A good, not even great FG kicker can make those kicks. Looks like Mangini knows we don't have a good one.
Cinvis
11-20-2006, 12:00 PM
In the hurry up offense, Pennington has a lot of control over what plays the Jets run. If the Jets recievers aren't going downfield, it's because Pennington doesn't want them to.

That is not true. Just like Manning, Pennington still gets the plays from the OC. They just don't huddle. He does have the option to run everyone to the line and run a pre-determined play, if he thinks its the right time.

Mangini is a pansy. Yes, he runs some trick plays once in a while, but those have desperation written all over them. You have a team that is (was) over .500. They must have some talent. Trust it.

Nobody will want to hear this, but...

Herm would have went for the FG! and it would have been the right play.
Br4dw4y5ux
11-20-2006, 12:10 PM
They don't trust him, I don't get it. How do you not trust a 2nd round kicker?

Nugent should not have gone in the 2nd round.

NO kicker should go in the 2nd round. So that part of the argument is just not there.

The question is how do you keep a kicker on your team that you do not trust? That's a much better question to ask.
GreenMachine
11-20-2006, 02:15 PM
Does anyone remeber what happened when the Giants tried a 50 yarder vs the Bears last week?
Cinvis
11-20-2006, 03:04 PM
Does anyone remeber what happened when the Giants tried a 50 yarder vs the Bears last week?

Wow! Are you as scared as Mangini is?
Dinobot 2
11-20-2006, 03:13 PM
Does anyone remeber what happened when the Giants tried a 50 yarder vs the Bears last week?

I guess I really never knew how hard a 50 yarder was. I thought kickers did them all the time. Maybe we should get John Hall back.