Jets D-Line prospects

[Rambo13]

Post here with any prospects you think we should watch for that could play either 3-4 NT or 3-4 End.
I think we can all agree this is a high priority position for us because even if Robertson pans out, Kimo needs to be replaced soon.

Alan Branch has been thrown out there a bunch as both a Nose Tackle and a Defensive End. I caught a little bit of him this saturday and he looked like he was disruptive. Any thoughts on where he might be drafted?
Other prospects to look for over the weeks?

[gustoonarmy]

Its funny you should say Branch because thats who I was thinking of. Another DT that I like alot is Frank Okam.

[FITM]

We need about 11 draft picks to use all on defense this year.

[Rambo13]

Its funny you should say Branch because thats who I was thinking of. Another DT that I like alot is Frank Okam.

Okam was the first thought I had this year on the best and most available NT prospect but I haven't seen him play since the Ohio State game and don't remember much of it.

[Green Hurricane]

How about Amobi Okoye from Louisville for an NT prospect to watch. 6-1 317 is his listed size, he's always impressed me, plus he's still just 20 years old despite being a graduating senior this year. Seems like a real Mangini type guy, smart, athletic, versatile, and no doubt huge potential. Probably a hot commodity as the draft gets closer, because I think he'll start putting up some very nice workout numbers.

[Rambo13]

How about Amobi Okoye from Louisville for an NT prospect to watch. 6-1 317 is his listed size, he's always impressed me, plus he's still just 20 years old despite being a graduating senior this year. Seems like a real Mangini type guy, smart, athletic, versatile, and no doubt huge potential. Probably a hot commodity as the draft gets closer, because I think he'll start putting up some very nice workout numbers.

I'm definately intrigued by him if only because he is so young. It seems like a) he is very mature for his age and b) might have room to grow.

[Tennessee Jet]

I like Okoye a lot. He was playing for Louisville at 16! Thats just amazing.

How about Quinn Pitcock? He couldn't play nose in the 3-4 but might translate well to a 3-4 DE. Might be able to be groomed by Kimo there. He moves fairly well for his size. He rushes the passer well and definitely can play the run.

[dwalsh]

yeah, I was going to suggest Okoye (i did in another thread a while back)

He looks like he could be a stud in the league. He was playing in college as a 16 year old, most 16 year olds are sophomores/juniors in HIGH SCHOOL. I would LOVE to get him with our first second round pick

[Nesquik]

We need about 11 draft picks to use all on defense this year.
Most definetely cornerback safety olb,de and dt.I wish we 4 1st rounders like we had in 2000.

[Rambo13]

I like Okoye a lot. He was playing for Louisville at 16! Thats just amazing.

How about Quinn Pitcock? He couldn't play nose in the 3-4 but might translate well to a 3-4 DE. Might be able to be groomed by Kimo there. He moves fairly well for his size. He rushes the passer well and definitely can play the run.

Pitcock reminds me of a pitbull. He is so disruptive, but I'm not sure if he would be as effective in the 3-4 holding blocks.

[Jake]

I'd like us to draft a NT that is atleast 330 pounds.

[gustoonarmy]

I'd like us to draft a NT that is atleast 330 pounds.

I've noticed that when rookies enter the NFL their weight seems to drop initially , you only have to look at Brick...

[chef]

I'd like us to draft a NT that is atleast 330 pounds.

What about Vince Wilfork?
he is listed as 325 but could be the best NT in the league

[legler82]

Name: Adam Carriker
School: Nebraska
Position: DE
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 295 lbs
Projected Round: 2nd
Scouting Report:
Carriker starter to come into his own during his sophomore season with the Huskers, after posting 36 tackles, seven for loss, and three sacks despite battling an ankle injury. He blew up as a junior, becoming one of the most feared ends in the country, finishing with 43 tackles, 17 for loss, and 9.5 sacks.

Adam Carriker is an interesting blend of talent. He has excellent size and strength, but has the athleticism to go along with it. He is already bigger than a lot of NFL defensive ends, and has the strength to push tackles out of his way. He has the ability to bull rush lineman, and can also hold his ground at the point of attack. Carriker has been a productive pass rusher in college, and knows how to get to the quarterback. He also has good straightline speed for a player his size.

While he is a good athlete for a player his size, he is not the freak many people make him out to be. He probably lacks the explosive quality you look for in top tier defensive ends. He has bulked up to 295lbs this year, but he doesn’t look to have the same agility he had prior.

Adam Carriker is a player that shows nice all around skills, and should be a complete defensive end at the next level. He may be best suited as a 3-4 end because of his size and power, and lack of explosive pass rush ability off the edge. Carriker reportedly is a great workout player, and may be a player who impresses a lot of people in the post season. If he lands in the Top 50, he has probably gone too high, but he should be a Day One pick.

[Martin&theJETS]

this would solve all of are Defense problems.

#1 Lamarr Woodley
#2 Alan Branch
#2 Adam Carriker

[Rambo13]

Name: Adam Carriker
School: Nebraska
Position: DE
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 295 lbs
Projected Round: 2nd
Scouting Report:
Carriker starter to come into his own during his sophomore season with the Huskers, after posting 36 tackles, seven for loss, and three sacks despite battling an ankle injury. He blew up as a junior, becoming one of the most feared ends in the country, finishing with 43 tackles, 17 for loss, and 9.5 sacks.

Adam Carriker is an interesting blend of talent. He has excellent size and strength, but has the athleticism to go along with it. He is already bigger than a lot of NFL defensive ends, and has the strength to push tackles out of his way. He has the ability to bull rush lineman, and can also hold his ground at the point of attack. Carriker has been a productive pass rusher in college, and knows how to get to the quarterback. He also has good straightline speed for a player his size.

While he is a good athlete for a player his size, he is not the freak many people make him out to be. He probably lacks the explosive quality you look for in top tier defensive ends. He has bulked up to 295lbs this year, but he doesn’t look to have the same agility he had prior.

Adam Carriker is a player that shows nice all around skills, and should be a complete defensive end at the next level. He may be best suited as a 3-4 end because of his size and power, and lack of explosive pass rush ability off the edge. Carriker reportedly is a great workout player, and may be a player who impresses a lot of people in the post season. If he lands in the Top 50, he has probably gone too high, but he should be a Day One pick.

I was actually thinking about posting about Carriker. He would be awesome as Kimo's replacement.

[Jonathan_Vilma]

this would solve all of are Defense problems.

#1 Lamarr Woodley
#2 Alan Branch
#2 Adam Carriker
Yeah because all three of those guys could be first rounders by the time the combine rolls around.

I like Carriker as a 3-4 end, but I also think Ray McDonald can be looked at as possible a 3-4 OLB project or a 3-4 end. He has the size of a 3-4 end, but has the speed off the edge to pass rush consistantly and blow up plays in the backfield. He might be there in the 3rd, if we decide to make a run at Branch, another nosetackle/end, and then an offensive player with our first three picks.

[Martin&theJETS]

Yeah because all three of those guys could be first rounders by the time the combine rolls around.
I like Carriker as a 3-4 end, but I also think Ray McDonald can be looked at as possible a 3-4 OLB project or a 3-4 end. He has the size of a 3-4 end, but has the speed off the edge to pass rush consistantly and blow up plays in the backfield. He might be there in the 3rd, if we decide to make a run at Branch, another nosetackle/end, and then an offensive player with our first three picks.
Doesnt mean they will be first round picks. They were a whole bunch of players that were suppost to go in the first round and they didnt go tell the 3 round.

[ROCaMOB]

[QUOTE=chef]What about Vince Wilfork?[QUOTE]

I didn't know another team could draft a player that has been in the league for some time now. oh yeah -- Tom Brady is gay

[xjets2002x]

I think that once we draft a fat load to put in the middle, Robertson will be moved to the outside.

-X-

[Richiebsweet]

D-Line help has to come in the form of whoever is available when the JETS picks comes up in: Gaines Adams, Quentin Moses, Alan Branch, LaMarr Woodley, even Marcus Thomas with his issues, and injured Justin Harrell in the first four rounds. The JETS need help on the D-Line and they must address it come draft time and free agency.

[Martin&theJETS]

I think that once we draft a fat load to put in the middle, Robertson will be moved to the outside.

-X-
and hopefully his salary will go down by millions.

[4jetfans]

D. Robertson is so gone after this year. One because of his lack luster play and two because I think he is due 8 or 9 million next year. DO YOU THINK he is worth that much to be just moved around. OHHH NO -- See ya DR

[Rambo13]

What about Vince Wilfork?
he is listed as 325 but could be the best NT in the league

There is no way Wilfork is actually 325 though.

[GreenGreek]

For what it's worth, NFLDraftCountdown currently has these first round DT projections:

11) Alan Branch: 6'6", 331
20) Quinn Pitcock: 6'3", 295
22) Frank Okam: 6'5", 315
25) Demarcus Tyler: 6'2", 305

[KurtTheJetsFan]

There is a reason why so many teams that run a 3-4 struggle to find D-line depth. The prospects are very hard to come by.

This year's class really doesnt have any elite NT prospects. Okam has the makings of one...but he will need to add more weight and get stronger. Other than him, any DT we take projects more as a 3-4 end than anything else.

We're better off waiting till rounds 2 and 3 to take some lesser known guys who in time can develop into a quality 3-4 type DL than waste a 1st rounder on 1.

A first round pick should go towards a position of strength in this draft such as OL or WR.

[Martin&theJETS]

1st round: Lamarr Woodley. This guy would be a outstanding Pass rushing OLB.
2nd Round Adam Carriker. He will put enormous pressure on opposing QBs.
3rd Round Amobi Okoye. He could turn out too be a solid NT.

[Vilmathegreat51]

I would really like to see us draft Branch with our first pick.A NT type and an impact player.I hope he's there when we pick because we could really use him.

[Wolfe Tone]

1st round: Lamarr Woodley. This guy would be a outstanding Pass rushing OLB.
2nd Round Adam Carriker. He will put enormous pressure on opposing QBs.
3rd Round Amobi Okoye. He could turn out too be a solid NT.

That looks okay but we also have 2 2nd rounders which we could package, I would prefer a RB to go along with Leon in the second or late first, Bush or Lynch would be great, then 3rd Okoye

[Vilmathegreat51]

That looks okay but we also have 2 2nd rounders which we could package, I would prefer a RB to go along with Leon in the second or late first, Bush or Lynch would be great, then 3rd Okoye
Yes that would be my ideal draft also. :beer:

[JetPulse]

I like Carriker in the second or later round.

[toontheman88]

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[Tennessee Jet]

I am posting this same message in the LB Prospect forum because it is more applicable there. I hope thats okay by the board "purists"

I think this is some interesting insight on Lamaar Woodley. Maybe he will be there for us to pick in the early 2nd. Which would make the first pick up in the air...

LaMarr Woodley had a great senior season and career at Michigan but as good as he was you can easily make the case that Anthony Spencer, not Woodley, was the best defensive end in the Big Ten this year. Woodley and Spencer might actually end up competing for draft position because they are both similar types of players and will be jockeying for that top 3-4 outside linebacker ranking. Right now I'd say Spencer is leading that race in the eyes of most scouts and he has a shot at round one, but Woodley is probably more of a 2nd rounder. Personally, I have Woodley rated a tad bit higher. At this point neither player is in the same class as DeMarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Kamerion Wimbley or even Manny Lawson though.

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[deviljets7]

I am posting this same message in the LB Prospect forum because it is more applicable there. I hope thats okay by the board "purists"

I think this is some interesting insight on Lamaar Woodley. Maybe he will be there for us to pick in the early 2nd. Which would make the first pick up in the air...

LaMarr Woodley had a great senior season and career at Michigan but as good as he was you can easily make the case that Anthony Spencer, not Woodley, was the best defensive end in the Big Ten this year. Woodley and Spencer might actually end up competing for draft position because they are both similar types of players and will be jockeying for that top 3-4 outside linebacker ranking. Right now I'd say Spencer is leading that race in the eyes of most scouts and he has a shot at round one, but Woodley is probably more of a 2nd rounder. Personally, I have Woodley rated a tad bit higher. At this point neither player is in the same class as DeMarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Kamerion Wimbley or even Manny Lawson though.

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With more and more teams playing the 3-4 defense, I'd be surprised if Woodley fell to round 2. There is too much of a premium on the 3-4 OLB for it to happen.

[Rambo13]

I like Carriker in the second or later round.



Definately agree

[Rambo13]

With more and more teams playing the 3-4 defense, I'd be surprised if Woodley fell to round 2. There is too much of a premium on the 3-4 OLB for it to happen.

That is true, but more and more teams have their OLBs filled at this point. Think Steelers, Cowboys, Browns, New England. The only team that will probably draft an OLB high is San Fran and possibly Cleveland unless I am forgetting someone.

[gustoonarmy]

Just watched BC beat the Midshipmen and BJ is an absolute run stuffing animal. As he is a Jnr I'm not sure wheather he will declare , but one for the future.

Finished the 2006 season with 60 career tackles (34 solos), 14.5 tackles for loss, 3.5 quarterback sacks and four pass breakup...has started 23 of the team's last 24 games


2006 Season
Started 11 games at defensive tackle...had 20 tackles, including 13 solo stops...made 6.5 tackles for loss, 2.0 sacks, forced one fumble and had three pass breakups...earned All-ACC second-team honors...made one tackle in season opener against Central Michigan...recorded three tackles (two solo) including one tackle for loss against Clemson...had two tackles (one solo) in win over BYU...made one tackle and had one pass breakup at North Carolina State...had three tackles (two solo) including 1.0 sack, 3.0 tackles for loss and one forced fumble against Maine...made three stops (three solo) including 1.0 sack and one pass breakup against Virginia Tech...recorded three tackles (two solo) and had one pass breakup at Florida State...had one assisted stop at Wake Forest...made two solo tackles against Maryland...at Miami, had one solo stop

Not breath taking stats but I think he could make the step up.

[fenwyr]

Just watched BC beat the Midshipmen and BJ is an absolute run stuffing animal. As he is a Jnr I'm not sure wheather he will declare , but one for the future.

Finished the 2006 season with 60 career tackles (34 solos), 14.5 tackles for loss, 3.5 quarterback sacks and four pass breakup...has started 23 of the team's last 24 games


2006 Season
Started 11 games at defensive tackle...had 20 tackles, including 13 solo stops...made 6.5 tackles for loss, 2.0 sacks, forced one fumble and had three pass breakups...earned All-ACC second-team honors...made one tackle in season opener against Central Michigan...recorded three tackles (two solo) including one tackle for loss against Clemson...had two tackles (one solo) in win over BYU...made one tackle and had one pass breakup at North Carolina State...had three tackles (two solo) including 1.0 sack, 3.0 tackles for loss and one forced fumble against Maine...made three stops (three solo) including 1.0 sack and one pass breakup against Virginia Tech...recorded three tackles (two solo) and had one pass breakup at Florida State...had one assisted stop at Wake Forest...made two solo tackles against Maryland...at Miami, had one solo stop

Not breath taking stats but I think he could make the step up.

Speaking of BC, if Jolonn Dunbar comes out as a junior, he projects REALLY well as a OLB in the 3-4 (he's too small to play ILB at 6'0 233). He was MVP of their bowl game today. 15 tackles, 4 for loss, 1 sack, 1 recovered fumble (that led to BC's win).

[hazmat]

There is no way Wilfork is actually 325 though.


Wilfork is easily 350 and he's so damn wide and he actually moves.

[Tennessee Jet]

Just watched BC beat the Midshipmen and BJ is an absolute run stuffing animal. As he is a Jnr I'm not sure wheather he will declare , but one for the future.

Finished the 2006 season with 60 career tackles (34 solos), 14.5 tackles for loss, 3.5 quarterback sacks and four pass breakup...has started 23 of the team's last 24 games


2006 Season
Started 11 games at defensive tackle...had 20 tackles, including 13 solo stops...made 6.5 tackles for loss, 2.0 sacks, forced one fumble and had three pass breakups...earned All-ACC second-team honors...made one tackle in season opener against Central Michigan...recorded three tackles (two solo) including one tackle for loss against Clemson...had two tackles (one solo) in win over BYU...made one tackle and had one pass breakup at North Carolina State...had three tackles (two solo) including 1.0 sack, 3.0 tackles for loss and one forced fumble against Maine...made three stops (three solo) including 1.0 sack and one pass breakup against Virginia Tech...recorded three tackles (two solo) and had one pass breakup at Florida State...had one assisted stop at Wake Forest...made two solo tackles against Maryland...at Miami, had one solo stop

Not breath taking stats but I think he could make the step up.

My wife made me go shopping with her today. I caught some of the game on during lunch but who is BJ?

[gustoonarmy]

My wife made me go shopping with her today. I caught some of the game on during lunch but who is BJ?

Apologies...Raji

[JETSimpala]

There are a lot of decent DT's coming out, and if JRs like Branch and Okam come out, there would be a great chance a solid DT who was expected to go first pick would slip to the 2nd round. Guys like Tank Tyler, Okoye, Pitcock may slip.

How about Tim Crowder from Texas? He's a nice sized DE (6'5, 270lbs) who is very fast and athletic. Good size to stop the run as well. He would be a great pick up around the 3rd round or 4th, where he is expected to go.

[Rambo13]

Does anyone know anything about Turk McBride from Tennessee beyond that he is 6'4" 275 lbs and shifted from DE to DT and could be a great fit at the 3-4 end position?

[Force]

Ray Mcdonald from Florida could also be a good fit to play DE for us. He's a bit of a tweener between DT and DE.

[Force]

Amobi Okoye is playing tonight against Wake Forest in the Orange Bowl.

[Tennessee Jet]

Frank Okam is staying at Texas for his senior year...

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[Tennessee Jet]

Another player that has intrigued me is Stanley Doughty (South Carolina). He is huge (330) and seems like a possible fit at the NT position. Here is a preseason report on him...

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On defense nose tackle Stanley Doughty is a hard-working plugger on the inside who chases to get involved in the action. Quickly getting off the snap with excellent first step quickness, Daughty is a load to handle in the middle of the line. With more teams moving to the 3-4 defense he will be highly rated entering his senior campaign.

[Rambo13]

Another player that has intrigued me is Stanley Doughty (South Carolina). He is huge (330) and seems like a possible fit at the NT position. Here is a preseason report on him...

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On defense nose tackle Stanley Doughty is a hard-working plugger on the inside who chases to get involved in the action. Quickly getting off the snap with excellent first step quickness, Daughty is a load to handle in the middle of the line. With more teams moving to the 3-4 defense he will be highly rated entering his senior campaign.


Is he a second rounder?